@@dancingdelilah1882 I'm saying calling someone an albino is like saying an HIV person is HIV instead of they have HIV 🤷🏾♀️ .people with albinism have it and are not it
Southern Ohio is very much deep South in its racial attitudes, and always has been. The "one drop" rule was king. The people in this town were marked "black" a century ago by all the surrounding communities, and they have always been treated that way. They accepted that, lived with it, and learned to take pride in it.
I understand why this woman takes this so seriously. It's not about race it's about remembering where you come from and respecting your ancestors. You shouldn't forget about your past.
True. But races doesnt exist nowadays. An portuguese could have any feature and it will still be a portuguese! We have persons who had children with all types of person. We joke that everyone has a little portuguese blood mixed in. Why americans can't think the same?
Miss_Kisa94 you hit the nail on the head! I admire her and the community for remembering it and holding on to that. I am the flip side of her, although I am dark skinned I have a lot of European, Norwegian, Welsh, English, and Swedish but I am black and I will never say anything else. I knew that when I found pictures of my great great great grandmother and she just looked white.
not so proud of her daughter. . .who wants to identify as white...... what is wrong with that ... your part black .. part white.... why cants she choose which box to check.... or why not be able to say .. biracial?
@@rosierosebud7361 "who wants to identify as white.." the daughter feels she can't disagree with the world when mostly everyone tells her she's wrong for listening to her mother. Nothing wrong with being proud and loyal to your heritage despite popular opinion.
One thing is clear: This woman ADORES her mother and though her mother has passed on, she refuses to let go of that adoration. Despite her outward appearance, her heart is staunchly holding on to her mother's lineage. Likely, for her, claiming "whiteness" would be to dishonor her mother and she is absolutely not having that.
So in US u need to registered your self in one of the race ? Can't u just said U're American ? Or identify yourself as new yorker , hawaian or other state ?
Every single person in America is mixed race. We all come from other continents. No person alive today is 100% Anything. I’m white, did a dna test, I’m over ten different countries and even 1% from Africa.
Gotta remember that in the past the one drop rule said that any black ancestry made you nonwhite. Her mother obviously raised her with her cultural heritage and engrained this in her such that she doesnt identify as white despite having numerous white ancestors.
she done named bought 10 ethnicities german, irish, turkish black, whatever we not denying they’re mixed. just that race is a phenotypical feature. white is white even if black parents
I was looking at that too.. I think the mother was trying to teach the children that eventually it will express .. even after generations… that DNA doesn’t lie
Yessssss honey, I love her for it!!!! She's not ashamed of being Black! That ignorant comment from her daughter though smh. There are many Black people with blonde hair, blue eyes and pail skin. Just because she's ignorant to their existence doesn't mean they don't exist. Momma came through and shut her right on down!!!!😳 I got up out of my seat when she did too!😄
opalfish sparklequasar sadly sometimes they cannot if they aren’t around lighter complexioned African-Americans. Those with biracial people in their family tend to be able to tell.
Not all the time can they tell. A lot of dark skinned black people seem to think I'm Spanish when they first meet me. I don't know how they think I'm Spanish - I'm a light skinned black female with the facial structure of a black person.
I didn't think of that. As a white woman, I initially thought maybe someone who physically appears white but calls themselves black were part of a problem, because they'll have societal priveledge regardless of where they were raised... But this perspective of it being tied to family history and her mother is really beautiful. The pain on her face when her daughter calls herself white is very evident, so I think you are right. To get, she is preserving memory, and her heritage because it's no longer visually there so everyone else erasing it by not recognizing it hurts her.
Genetics are sooo interesting. Pale white skin and 4c wooly hair wide nose. FYI mixed is not just exclusive to white and black. Not all mixed people have fair skin.
@IssaLovesRaja I'm 3/4 black and 1/4 white and have 4c hair. My son is 30% black and 70% white and has gasp--4b hair! There are mixed people who can't shake having 4a-c hair!!! My son looks Arabic while I have a caramel color! The 2020 census will be the first time we can claim our mixed heritage!!!
That's why racism is so stupid...genetics are far more complex than white/black/asian...I identify as a white woman but in reality most humans have sub saharan heritage (however small). Beautiful in a way, just shows that the only 'race' really is the human race 🤷♀️
@@rachelb1502 That is true! Although I look black, my face is very much European while my body is African. Meanwhile, my son is a mixture of both! he's tall and has the body of the Masai, but has the features of a European! When people see him, they always ask what he is! When they see me, often they ask if I adopted my own son because we don't resemble each other in color! When he was born at hospital, he had light brown eyes which turned dark brown after a matter of weeks! The doctors actually wrote white male on his birth certificate, which my husband and I didn't catch until my mother said something about it! Luckily our state had a biracial category and that is what we checked. It was 2001!
Armando B. Some forms you have to fill out back then didn’t allow it. You had to pick one. These days there is more options. I’m only 44 and when I was 18... I had to chose one. Of course I would leave it blank but I’m from NY. Different atmosphere.
Acceptance of "mixed-race" is only a few decades old in most parts of America. When I was young, even in northern cities, it was a topic of controversy. When the mother was young, with grandparents who were visibly dark-skinned, she'd have been considered black, period. Kids who turned out to have light skin often could and did "pass for white", but that was considered to be a deep betrayal of their families. Mixed-race people were often in a kind of social limbo, given privileges (denied to their relatives) by whites who didn't know they were mixed, subtly discriminated against by whites who did know. For a sanitized glimpse of what it was like, check out the movies "Imitation of Life" from 1934, then remade in 1959. Society has changed somewhat. In the current cultural context, it makes sense for the daughter to identify as white. (For the record, the American conception of race is one of the stupidest things in the world. Heck, it might be *the* stupidest thing. Top ten, certainly.)
I have to pick one on forms all the time. My parents got denied service at a restaurant in 2003 for being an interracial marriage. We very much have a “pick one” culture. And when we are required pick one we get told we aren’t really that one. It’s like yes, I’d like to be considered both, but right now it’s like I’m considered to be neither
@@riana4691 Wow, seems like in the US you are far behind the UK for example. I lived there like from the late 90s till 2000 and remember they already had like mixed on their forms.
Armando B. It could just be my state, since different states have different rules. Also interracial marriage was only legalized all across the country in 1967 (loving vs Virginia), so it’s fairly new I guess
I loved this woman's determination to be who she knows she is. Society trying to tell her play white and get by instead of loving your blackness. She is the true definition of self love and being proud of who you are.
I believe her! Her mother probably raised her to never forget who she is! A true black mother would definitely do that!! Especially being mixed herself! Just my opinion💞
What do you think about her daughter not claiming to be black and upsetting her mom? I mean, she does look mostly white. But she is still mixed. Which we pretty much all are I guess haha
@@armadhillo as a black woman, gonna have to disagree with ya. There is no such thing as race technically, scientifically speaking. So black is an ethnicity and in the u.s., it's a culture. Ethnically she is black , culturally, southern perhaps,?
Yeah, it's really concerning that doctor wouldn't let her out down her actual heritage when it can affect some diagnoses. Certain diseases only really affect people from certain regions of the world so ignoring part of her medical history based on her skin color is potentially dangerous because the doctor's would never think to check for those issues. The idea that if your skin is white enough that you should ignore a significant portion of your grandparents is also pretty toxic since it implies there's a better choice when you're mixed and it ain't black
I'm sorry but the person that made you can tell you what you are...your DNA says what you are. Call yourself whatever you want....can't change what you are. Being high mixed does not make you White. Yes... you look white but your highly mixed. Being mixed with African is Mixed...not White. Sorry.
I think the old woman identifies as black because her mother looked black (though very light skinned), and it's a way for her to honor her mother. She also looks slightly black herself, but her daughter definitely does not and I can understand her not wanting to identify as black because no one will see her as black.
The problem is that her mother didn't look black at all. People have accepted light skinned and straight haired people as black because of the one drop rule. In reality her mom looks mixed race, not white and not black. But due to the one drop rule being enforced for centuries people's view on what 'black' really is has become warped.
Well, it's really about what other people think. You can say you're black or white or mixed race, but in reality it will really be others who define you. The old woman's daughter said she realized that in elementary school; her mother told her she was black, but the reality was that everyone saw her as white. To the world, she is white.
@@hughhughes4488 yes, but everybodies view on what is black has been affected by the one drop rule. People who show even the slightest signs of mixed ancestry can claim to be black and that's the issue. They're not black, they are mixed.
@@MooMilkMilk That's true, but what happened (in the past, I don't know about today) is that these mixed-race people ended up only marrying one race of people and so got whiter and whiter with each generation (or blacker). So the old woman's mother was a very light skinned black person (by american standards), the old woman has hints of african features, but her daughter now looks 100% white. Read up on the famous siamiese twins eng and chang bunker, they were chinese but somehow got registered (in the early 1800s) as white, married white sisters and had many mixed-race children. Today, they have 1000+ descendants, all white. You can compare that to South Africa where coloured (mixed race people) are a distinct group of people with their own cultural and racial identity who mostly only marry each other and live in their own neighborhoods; we don't have such a group of people in America.
Miraha Carey identifies as black woman and she's accepted as one. People need to travel to North Carolina we have tons of black folks who appear white.
It’s for demographic/census purposes. You can put “prefer not to answer”. We wouldn’t know the statistics about racial income inequality or other disparities without that information. It makes it harder to ignore systemic racism.
@@chandlerscaringia5260 I know but we are not in those days and I understand that she was raised in that time but dosent mean her children can't identify as mixed.
The one drop rule was to keep discrimination going if you are more than one race you are biracial simple as that you don't have to deny any part of you
I agree. But she doesn't have to insist on this bizarre hair-splitting weirdness in order to cherish, live out & honor her mother's heritage & her mother's being. Just be what you are. All of what you are.
Roberta is not someone to admire. She has no strength. She has allowed everyone to believe she is white. She becomes Black when it suits her. If you admire her there is something seriously lacking in you.
I feel her though. You can not understand how it feels to prove your blackness. As a kid my sister and I looked to be mixed race. I've done a lot of tanning and out door activities so I have some color. I now am labeled as a light skinned black woman. You will never know how it feels to be too black for white people and not black enough for black people
tracy ann johnson but she’s not black and neither are her children. She’s a mixed race multicultural woman I doubt she’s ever faced the struggle of a black woman
@@MuziqueJunkee She just trying to argue for nothing. You said nothing wrong. We understood, get it, and agree with you 100%! Everything you said were facts.
@@boxgaming281 theres always one downer, scroll on & stfu if you dont like it, I love that woman, i love her straight talking, my girls are mixed but identify as black, there choosing not mine! Your comment just widens the racial divide!! I dislike people like you but I am British & think differently
@@sahra4091 How do you know that? Her ancestors could be from the Cameroon, Benin, Ghana, or any other West African nation. How did you come to settle on Yoruba?
the lesson we can take away from this is "white privilege" theory has been DEBUNKED! everybody assumes she is "white" but it gave her no inherent advantage in life.
I'm biracial and identify as mixed. I'm also very white assumed by others. People who are POC presenting face discrimination and struggles that those of us who are white presenting just don't face. So our experiences are different and we face less barriers and dangers. I think as the bloodline continues and is watered down, people become less POC presenting and likely relate less to the culture too. It's more accurate at a certain point and also i think acknowledging of the differences in being a POC or white presenting person (like when you're 1/8th POC) to say you are white, with POC heritage, or mixed. I also understand her perspective in that people are too simplistic about race even today. They simply stare at your skin colour and then label you as that. Organisations and people also need to take account of mixed people and allow us to tick more than one race or acknowledge that people can have mixed cultures and backgrounds and not to make assumptions about what a certain race looks like.
I know it sucks because one time someone said to me In front of a group you're not black then ask me are you black twice and I said no.I'm mostly European with 1.4% Melanesian and my hair is red💀
My family is from New Orleans. I have many people like this. I had an aunt who passed for white. She married a white man. She never told him she was black. They had a child, and that kid came out as black as coal!🤣
Ri Benz She ABSOLUTELY was! This aunt was already gone by the time I was born. My family used to tell stories about her and I used to see old photographs of her. She would have NOTHING to do with the family because she didn’t want anyone to know she was Black. But when she had that baby... EVERYBODY knew she was Black!🤣 Her husband ended up leaving her. Not because he found out she was Black, but because she lied about it.
tracy ann johnson oh wow damn . That really sucks for the man lmfao but wow that’s crazy . Black is beautiful nd I bet that baby is too . I don’t know why people feel otherwise of being black . Black is beautiful . That’s self hate lol .
@@tracyannjohnson5724 That actually reminds me of the Saindra Lang story. She came out caramel colored with 4c hair but she had two Boer (white Dutch) parents. She is a South African woman who grew up during the Apartheid era.
This whole conversation is just frustrating. The daughter recognizes that she doesn't experience the same struggles as CURRENT black people and the mother cares more about the struggles that her ancestors felt. Both are equally valid and should be respected.
@Reluctant Human My grandmother came to america during ww2. Literally all my my ancestors were enslaved to hard labor. The lucky ones that is. The unlucky ones went straight to the gas chambers. Then I grow up in america and get told im responsible for and benefit from slavery despite my ancestors being enslaved less than a single life time ago. People dont actually care about history. Racists CANNOT see past skin color.
null akjg I see your point but there’s one thing that I would correct. If your ancestors came after ww2 then you directly benefit from slavery and Jim Crowe based off of the privilege your skin color carries in America. When your grandmother came to the United States, Black people couldn’t drink at the same water fountains as her, go to the same schools, or eat at the same places. Black people are still oppressed by the prison industrial complex today. All white people benefit whether they want to or not, and that’s the truth
They're all made up concepts anyway so dark skin people can be treated badly, anyway. But white privilege is based on your outer appearance many times, along with socio-economic class & background.
Black folks, we come in all shades. My grandmother is somewhere between her or her mom’s complexion. When I was 3 years old, I asked my granny if she was white. She laughed so hard and said, “No, I’m Black.” She grew up in rural Mississippi in the 30s and 40s. She knows she is Black. That’s that.
@@yawnpherella HAHAHAHAHA I know this woman is wacko. But she grew up in the south, there was no thing as slightly black, or mixed race. You were one of the other. Her white peers never accepted her as white, so this is why she's so damn stubborn about being black. To each their own, if she wants to identify as black so strongly, let her.
I am watching this video for the second time and I’m blown away by Miss Roberta, she understood the complexities and nuances of race while fighting the south to acknowledge her heritage all while living in a time you could only dream about peace between racial groups. Her firm stance on race isn’t because of someone else’s laws or public policy, it’s because of her personal identity and connection to her family. Sure the one drop rule is probably to blame for the creation of east Jackson but their actions prove they seek to uplift and celebrate their black roots over their white roots because of the racial disparity, which they saw firsthand, that produced trauma which had the effect of propelling their need to identify as black.
It takes guts to stand up and say you're black when you could pass. So many of our people have taken the easy road, but for you to stick it out and ride this out with those of us who couldn't says a great deal about how fierce your are! Too proud right now!✊🏿✊🏾✊🏽✊🏼✊🏻
My son's great grandmother is dark skin. "Black" but by looking at him you can't tell. It breaks my heart when people say racist things around him. He gets upset. It's sad
That's why most of the people here in Brazil (56% of the population) considered themselves "pardo" which is the equivalent of mixed race. Americans always tend to classify themselves as white or black strictely... that's weird and don't actually match with their race.
but she has Black in her immediate bloodline. Her mother is a mixed race Black woman. The one drop rule. from back in the day, doesn't even apply to her!
E So her Grandma is half native and black, then her mother is a quarter of both of those, so half. Then half that again making her a quarter. How is this one percent? We don’t know what culture she retains from her mother but there is probably some there too. Culture isn’t apart of blood thing but it’s also makes you who you are. I understand your 1% argument but it simply doesn’t apply to this situation. Look at Liz warren with her native claim, that an appropriate situation for your assertion.
You got people out here identifying as a completely opposite sex/gender and y’all tripping over a mixed/biracial person that wants to rep their black side and not forget who they are and where they come from
Actually those two girls are White , whats the problem? Im italian , and latin people are a resort of many different etnico influences , like all Europe, but we are White. In USA you give too much importante of classifications , those girls looks White , so they are White
When you can pass for black like me you get plenty of pity pu$$y from white and black girls....They fall for that stupid media black crybaby sh@t every time!!!
Her daughter does not and she clearly stated in the video that she is mixed. Black + white does not equal black People need to let the one-drop rule go. Please 🙏🏾
I believe that people are conflating skin color with cultural identity because of black vs. white history in America. It’s just hard to believe she suffered the struggle of the black identity that was prevalent in America when she could easily be seen and identified as white...i.e she did not live the black struggle
4:35 Miss Bertie shakes her head when her daughter says, "I am white." "But I am her mother, and I stand on the black." 👏🏽 Miss Bertie is amazing, she never let anyone or anything deny her race. "Until the day I leave this earth, I will never deny it," she said.🖤 I love this. Miss Bertie, and many like her, are true national treasures, for real.💎✊🏽
Sadly, she is delusional. If she is 75% European, genetically, she is a WHITE woman, regardless of what she was told as a child. Racism has caused her to not be able to claim what she truly is.
Fay was like a 2nd omother to me, she didnot fìnd out about her black blood until high schooĺ. Fay haď been dating both a white mwn and a black man. But back in thè 1930s she thought best to marry the black mañ He also hqd white blood
@@houdini5538 With 5-6% of black in her, even "mixed" is a bit of a stretch. Usually, you're considered mixed if you have around 50:50 black and white or at least 30:70.
@@hayleycathleen The mixed person doesn't have to be 50:50 black to be mixed. Some different sources claimed she's 5% black, some claimed she's 6% black, I just went with 5-6%.
Exactly the male determines whether she is black or not if her dad is black no matter how light or white she looks she is black the male transfers the blood.
@belinda hawkins her grandma was mixed her grandpa was white she has more Caucasian blood than anything. That racist ideology of the 1 drop rule has confused her plus she married a white man and her daughter is very white...she probably has less than 5% African DNA. I have 23% European DNA should I say that I'm white with my brown skin and woolly hair?
Sol Shine Sista ok but you have a black parent but this woman is white tho her mother is biracial(black and white) and her father is white which only gives her 24% African dna .
Moon Light have you taken her dna test to confirm that percentage you made up? Stop making up percentages based off of what you assume to know. She might have a higher percentage of African ancestry than you or I know. A complexion doesn’t equate dna percentages. There’s a set of very light complexioned biracial twins that posted their dna results on here and they had more African dna than the darker people that posted results.
@Hakeem Edgar Lee Gaddafi I think it is odd that mixed people don't want to just be mixed. You don't have to be "black enough" or "white enough" because you are MIXED, a combination of BOTH or SEVERAL races. It is ok to be mixed! I am proud of my Creole ancestry!
Being I'm a history nut, I would have definitely appreciated more information/history on the little country neighborhood/town. I find it all to be extremely fascinating. ❤
It's a small town in Ohio and all I seen was "White people" Some black people migrated to that town even Sally Hemings/Thomas Jefferson son lived near by.
I’m from Ohio and one came in a store I was working in and he said he and his family were mulungeon . I was fascinated by how they looked because they really had black features
@STIFF LITTLE FINGERS would you shut up! Its just a matter of being curious...! If scientists and geologists weren't curious of a matter they wouldn't have asked questions and been driven to do research and persue a thing!! That's how discoveries are made... Its HUMAN nature to wonder and be curious of the unknown! Her statement has nothing to do with racism, damn!!!
I don't know why her mother was hurt. She chose to identify as black, her daughter chose to identfy as white. She wants everyone to respect her decision but doesn't want to respect her daughter's decision.
I love how proud this lady is of her heritage. I love how proud she is that most people there are mixed race and are all welcome as part of a very inclusive community. I love that!
I really respect this woman Ms Roberta! She and her brother choose not to "pass" when many others her complexion definitely would have to feel more accepted and not discriminated. She is black and proud of it.
@@moneymoney12 umm no it shows how logical I am D this lady claimed her grandmother was mixed and mother was half black without proof and they look white as snow , she is clearly another Rachel dosel or however you spell it
Asia Brown Right! She’s ridiculous. I feel bad for her daughter growing up with this delusional woman. I’m sensing Rachel Dolezal the original from her. She just tryna secure her spot for reparations
I’m with the daughter. She’s white. Yes she has black in her like loads of white ppl but she’s white. Now mom looks biracial. Even though her skin is white her features are black.
@@ratfacedroach4514 All humans share the same features. You sound ignorant. Everyone in my family has a completely differently shaped nose from each other. Furry hair is a neanderthal trait. Excess body fur is a neanderthal trait. They were covered in fur. Since im 100% human I have human hair and it only grows on my head and crotch.
Love this lady, My grandmother passed 12 years ago. And she was pretty much the same complexion. I bet if we all did a ancestry test the results would be suprising.
Keeping -my aunt can pass as white but she is Black with two Black parents. Her husband was a mechanic and he was talking about white people and his mechanic co-worker who was Asian said aren't you wife white ??? lol He was was like H*ll No!
It's absolutely fascinating to get one! 👍 I highly suggest it. It's really fascinating and it can be a real help to so many people that don't know what their background is at all. History unfortunately hasn't been kind, but what's awesome about the ancestry test is that you can get matches with dna... Could be as direct as a parent, esp if they're in the system or as far as several # generation of cousin's. Our neighbor is 85, was adopted as an infant and never knew anything about his own biological mother, father or any other family. He decided wth, why not, let's see what happens? So he ends up finding all kinds of new cousins and also found his Mother, Father, Aunt... Info on ancestry bcuz of these new connections. I'd say it's worth it to be able to investigate your own roots and connect hopefully. Keeping in mind that you'd be submitting your dna to a database. You are given the option to submit your own dna for "research" which I opted not to.
I think the daughter is more sensible. The mother needs to realize she’s mixed. She’s black and white. Her mother was mixed and her father was white. It’s ok that she wants to embrace her black heritage but she can also embrace her white heritage. Why is she so angry at her daughter for identifying as white? The mother seems kinda off. A lot of white people probably have black in their bloodline just like black people have white in theirs but we do t walk around talking about we’re white…
I agree with this. I have maybe less than 10% Cherokee blood, and I don't consider myself a part of that tribe. The mother is biracial, but her daughter and grandchildren don't really have the same features. She has to understand that they aren't at risk of being racially profiled by police because of the color of their skin. I honestly thought at first this was about an African American who had albinism. We need to embrace the fact that we're all individuals and accept our differences
@@sadfox8248 If people started yelling at you for being 10% Cherokee, then you would start calling yourself part of that tribe. This is kinda why people started identifying as black even when they were 1/8th black. Plessy was 1/8th.
This is why we (humans) should not be identified as a color but rather by our ethnicity, origin, or tribe. We are not crayons - nor do we all "fit" into a "box" . . .
You're right. I played this video thinking "omg, there are white people in the US passing off or believing they are black?!" 😵But then realized it was more about their ethnicity. Colors are confusing. She's clearly white, but has black ancestry. They need to be identified as an ethnic group. That way both mother and daughter can be on the same page.
If you search for ilha dos anjos you'll find out that in Brazil there is an island of native albinos (there's 2 actually but i forgot the name of the other)
When you're Black, you just KNOW when someone else is Black. It's like you can pick out the features and it just clicks. Everybody else is just getting hype to this. People been "passing" for generations but WE know.
Years ago, she wouldn't have been solely identified as white due to her having partial black ancestry. So, why are white people trying so hard to force her into an identity she doesn't want, disregarding her autonomy and self-identification?
AND THEY ARE MIXED WITH CAUCASIAN!!! I know that may be a hard pill to swallow but you’ll never find people like this in Africa except for being albino and these ppl are not both her parents are OVER 80 percent white
