you don't need fancy analog hardware synths 

this tutorial is missing one key component, Digital synths by its nature don't come in BOXES. Dave Pensado once told me that the bigger the box, the bigger the sound. I bought a Moog Modular and they had to helicopter that shit to my home just because the box was so big. But it was worth it. You can't compare the sound of the analog because your computer doesn't come in a real, analog box, it's a digital box. Even if the box is a big digital box, it's still just a digital box. You need a real, cardboard, locally wrapped and handled Cuboid

i really hope this is the future of tutorials. couldn’t have made it more simple. in 6 mins you gave me a clearer understanding of creating synths to your liking. thank you for this video.

that pre-last polyrhytmic patch and melody was just stunningly immersive. cool tutorial

always excited to see new phritz videos :]

Damn, I knew I should've took advantage of the sale last year before it ended. This is wicked tho!

I mean just detune one of the oscillators slightly and it will wobble as thats what is actually occurring in an analog synth.

anyone know how i could achieve a sound like at 6:04 on fl studio?

I currently own 4 analog synths (plus dx7): Juno106, 2 Prophets, Moog37. And I can say, that you are damn right. You just don't need it. I don't need it. But I love them.

analog makes you focus more on the music side than in the design side, but your brain gets too confortable. Unless you get into modular analogue which makes bigger our brain muscles

For those who are interested about the wavetable synth and maybe don't know much about it i've got a little tip to have a huge variety of wavetables. Load a sample (let's say we've got a chord stab but it could be anything even something sampled from a record or a simple kickdrum) in the timeline and zoom until you can see the single sinusoidal cycle of the sample's waveform, cut the single cycle and consolidate it, so drag it and drop it into the wavetable osc. In this way every note you play will sound with the characteristics of the sample and you'll have a completely unique, inspiring and interesting sound from the start.

Use what you like, it all sound truly amazing today. Hardware or software. General music listeners out there don't care how you create.

Nicely done. Great patches.

If you really want to fool yourself, run it through a cheap ass tape deck, one with pitch control and eq would be prefered

Well, I have an impression that some of us think that analog sound is just a messed dirty sound with added noise ... There is something in analog synths that to me simply cannot be emulated with any plugin or digital synth ... At least not just yet, but i am not saying we're not close, and also that it is bad, it's just the taste 😊

I grew up using digital synths. Today I am designing both analog and digital synth circuits/code for hardware mostly. The key difference between digital and analog in terms of sound becomes ever smaller (unless we are talking about wild feedback-patches on a modular synthesizer). What is a difference tho, is the one between a plugin and dedicated hardware synths - regardless if analog or digital - on hardware you have the advantage that you usually have knobs that allow you to directly interface with a parameter and they are right there without you having to set anything up. This can change how you interact with the thing and therefore change what you make with it (not automatically leading to better results, but it is a different experience and that can have an impact on how you do music). I still use a lot of software synths if I am working on a sound design, but hardware can be more in the moment if you are in the rehearsal room with other musicians. Ah yeah, and certain filters still sound better in analog, e.g. I have yet to hear a convincing emulation of the Wasp Filter - but there are also digital things I have never heard in the analog world and would not like to miss.

Something I do with all of my patches by default is to assign a value between 0.1-0.5 to the random column on the matrix for filter cutoff, oscillator fine tune, oscillator position, envelope attack and decay times, and amplitude. This means that every time you hit a key, you get a slight variation in the sound. I based on this on how the vintage knob on the P6 / OB6 works. The major limitation is that each parameter is taking the same random value on each key press, but I find if I vary the modulation amount from -0.5 - +0.5, it adds a certain something. Then you just need to add some saturation and/or tape emulation down the chain, and it usually sounds pretty good. I don't most people could tell the difference on a recording between a well-made VST patch and an analogue synth. I use analogue gear myself and I mostly keep it around because I like the device, more than because the sound is inherently better.

In a mix. Most if not all people wouldn’t even pick if it’s analog or not. And that’s the truth :)

I apologize if I’ve caused some discomfort for using the word analog too lightly, I should have phrased it ‘making it sound less digital’ or smth idk, I still like how it sounds tho

You can’t replace the random amplitude sound waves analog creates.

Plugins are like sex dolls. Get the real thing.

i highly recommend taking some stereo pink noise and slowing it down until it’s completely inaudible, layering whatever sound with that, running that thru distortion, and then highpassing it

Both types of synths are great. but different though. you can't reach the same feeling of the analog with digital or reach the flexibility that the digital has with the analog instrument by itself.

Very ugly digi filter

Everything you demonstrated is correct. But I will also say that there is something in the harmonics of an analog oscillator that doesn’t exist in digital oscillators. Maybe they can’t replicate the higher frequencies because of the nyquist limit, or maybe the single cycle waveforms are just too boring when repeated hundreds of times per second. I tried for years to get that Minimoog bass sound on VST’s, but when I finally heard it on the real thing (or even the Behringer model D), I instantly knew that was it..! Anyway, sorry for the rant, but I’m a lifelong synth lover who bridges both analog and digital, I’ve had a pretty juicy career as a music producer, and there are some things digital does better, and some very minor things it can’t.

Play a sawtooth at around 20Hz with no filter. Compare e.g. Ableton Wavetable vs U-He Diva. Then compare to a hardware synth with real analogue sawtooth oscillators. It's not the random drift you got with 70s era synths, rather that _no two cycles from the oscillators are exactly the same despite having approximately the same period_. That's something that wavetable synths can't replicate so easily. I haven't done this for a while, but it was fun to make a track using my Bass Station II as the only sound source.

None of the patches cuts it compared to hardware. What’s missing is the sound lacks sharpness. Just get a monologue, crave or keys. Any budget synth S on this. Stop trying to paint the donkey will not be a zebra. Just please stop.

op has clearly never heard an analogue synth in person before. these tips and tricks will help you emulate the sound of a cheap broken 80s digital synth. you can clearly hear the aliasing in these patches. analogue is not about noise and pitch instability (both are imperceptible if you don't use 50 year old gear). it's about clarity, weight and smoothness. there are options in software that can get you close but this isn't one of them.

Analog is not about sound. Every synth sounds cool, analog or digital, hardware or software. It's not about the sound.

I’m not an analog purist but I do think there is something distinctly different between this and true analog, probably just overtone and physical wiring shenanigans, I use both whenever it is necessary so I have no real bias, just observations.

It's a very rough emulation method. I guess it works for people who didn't used different analog synths but listened to some retro-ish music tracks. First of all I must say that this MS-20 "filter" is pretty rubbish. I've made a clone of this filter by myself and I know how it sounds... Here is mostly a math. accurate version of MS-20 like filter without any usual analog artefacts. Maybe you'll get a similar sound with modern Korg synthesizer like Prologue. They sound pretty boring and too sterile. MS-20 filter clone gives much more rough sound if you need it, it can be really monstrous using just two LEDs in an opamp feedback loop (a simple distortion/overdrive circuit). Also usually VA filters tends to sound not right on highest frequencies. It's hard to explain but you'll hear it if you know the real sound well. The second and one of the most important things - VCO sound. It's not like that "you're making a slow and slight LFO pitch vibration and you get it". No, it's a common mistake :) BTW, it's more usual for a "tape effect". Even DIY VCOs can sound pretty stable easily. In terms of it's frequency. The interesting part is the fact that some VCOs (not all) can have a different shape relatively to it's frequency. But... if VCO is very well stabilized then this artifact can be destroyed. I hate sterile VCOs but they exists. Even DCOs can be normal and sterile. As an example: DeepMind's DCO. It sounds good. Not ideal but good for a DCO. My proto-VCO sounds strange: it's saw becomes thinner and somewhat distorted on higher notes. I can't give the actual examples though. It gives a cool effect of a live guitar like instrument with certain dependencies of envelopes, filter and shapes mix (my proto has three independent shapes: saw, tri and pulse). P.S. I have a little example here (in my videos).

You don’t need fancy fucking anything. Nor money. Just set a limit of options from a universe of free shit available today, then CREATE.

it’s not that you can’t replicate analog with digital, it’s that with analog it’s built in by default.

Very good demo! My main inhibition to using software synths for analogue tones is that most don't oversample at a high enough rate to do audio-rate modulation of anything besides oscillator pitch, and even then it's not consistently good. (Xfer Serum and the u-he titles are some notable exceptions; REPRO and Hive are pretty good at it.) I discovered a whole new world of textures with my Moog semimodular, but they are more like aliasing mush when I try them in software - which is so unfortunate, as I prefer softsynths for easy patch recall, portability, and DEFINITELY cost.

I use mostly hardware due to IT being my day job. I cannot click 1000 times like i used to. Started getting into Ableton more. Hybrid is where it's at for me. For edge and grit... unstable sounds it would not hurt to just buy a single analog filter or module to run sounds through. Get the best of both worlds. Looking forward to more videos!

Finally someone put it into video/words very well. I always thought of analogue gear in the modern age as kind of... Dumb. Unless you're a hardcore enthusiast and have the money, there's is NOTHING special about analogue except that it's prohibitively expensive.

Digital is good but it has this scalable tak sound when you twich the knobs and listen carefully because of the sampling rate. Analog is like a real vobration infinite as long you have electric current.

agreed but its also not about sound. working the knobs on a synth is endlessly more fun than clicking a mouse like a fucking accountant. once you make some money from music, buy some cool shit. until then, work hard with what you got. that's how everyone did it and will do it x

Very cool, and also very noticeably not analogue.

For synthesis you can get great results in software but recently I tried the minifreak for example and there's nothing stimulating programming the software version Vs the hardware, I guess there's a whole psychology behind it too. I'd say I'm a kinesthetic learner and sound design/synthesis didn't click with me until I got a real synthesiser and I'd used software synths, I really loved Arturias CS-80 but hardware helped me learn within weeks. I can't go back now, plugins I love for FX and also sampled instruments with great UI like this here but I'm forever down with hardware now. Digital or analogue ☺️🤟 Nice patches btw! You don't need pur

Would love to see a "Coca Cola vs. Pepsi" style test with analogue vs. digital synths, see if people can really tell the difference 😂 Great video though, I think wavetable is an underrated VST, can produce some great sounds!

Here we go again assuming that analog synths are reducible to the sound they produce…

I've made some insane sounds with just serum. I want analog, but technically I don't need it for the sound design I do, and the sound design I do is like Mick Gordon stuff. Do with this information what you will. If anyone ever struggles to make real feedback loops in their DAW, get blue cats connector.

None of the things you mention is the difference I think of when comparing digital to analogue synths... The sound itself has a different quality... Just a pure waveform has more life and richness in analogue vs digital... Oh, and analogue synths are cheaper and more plentiful than ever before! Both kinds of sounds are easily accessible these days and all your methods are normal things to do to both analogue and digital synths, it doesn't make a sound more analogue... IMO.

I forgot how bad everything Ableton sounds, even the new stuff.

Ohmph )) These so-called "filter models" in Abletone are not good! Sounda almost "fake". You will _not_ notice it only if you've didn't heard these filters in reality. Nothing to compare. I admit that now it's posible to re-create almost any filter in the digital virtual form. But it's always has certain quircks! For example, you can hear (in Hydrasynth for example) that all filter models sounds practically the same on the highest cutoff frequencies with high resonance values. In reality these different filters has some nuances. Some of them are subtle, some are pretty big. Also this "example" about the "analog sound warmness" about the unstable oscillators is so silly :))) Probably you'll find one or two very old synthesizers (maybe like Yamaha CS-10 or even earlier) that will sound ~ in this manner. And usually this unstableness is even less than you've set up. And... it's not that straight forward "sine-LFO"! There are many factors, including the quality of the electric isolation of the oscillators (voice cards actually) area which differently change the pitch voltage values. Modern analog synths can be even "worse" than you know... For example: Korg's Prologue serie has that crappy "metallish" sound of the oscillators. I can't describe it in a proper way. But they sound unnatural. Korg's modern engineers are damn perfectionists obviously! In these things. But when they develope something like NTS-1, their "perfectionism" is gone suddenly! I've went the road from the 1st VST virtual synths (and before VST as well!) to the "monsters" like Reaktor and Sync Modular, Synth Edit (which is way better in sound vs modern Reaktor but it's freaking buggy!). I've made few virtual synths in late 90s and in 10s in different programs for my own needs. I've "eat a dog" on this topic probably. No, I'm not a sertified programmer. But I've learned many things... The latest tech. I know is PolyBLEPs. Probably all modern VA synths (like Hydrasynth) use this principle. I'm not going to describe it but it did eliminated that horrible aliasing which were before. But in the trade of lower crispiness of the sound on the highest range of the spectre. Something can't come from nothing. After that I've started to dig into the analog "things" starting from C64's SID chip. But it's a long story.. I don't want to retype it here ))

Yea, but there is more than the hard facts that need to be taken into account. I am an irrational and emotional being. My Moog Matriarch makes me feel special and inspires me. It is an actual physical instrument that I form a bond with. I am proud of it, it is mine. It has a smell, it gets dusty. I know how the knobs feel, I know where they are, and I build up muscle memory with it. I like grabbing patch cables and move my arms and hands around to experiment. Hear the little click when the patch cable goes into the socket. All sound generation happens right there in the electric domain. All of this for me is a pleasant and positive experience. As I often say, I LOVE PLAYING my Moog. When I step into my studio and I see it standing there, I want to fire it up, get a sequence going and experiment. I cannot not feel any of these things that I described here with a plugin on my computer screen. And the feeling is all important. The fact that inspiration starts flowing. I have never tried a blind test comparison between say Native Instruments Reaktor Minimoog plugin, and my own Minimoog style oscillator and filter of my Matriarch. I think Reaktor sounds damn good. I absolutely think it is possible that I would not be able to tell the difference between a plugin synth bass, and a synth bass from my Matriarch. So I guess you title holds true: you don't need fancy analog hardware synths. But I sure as hell believe that getting a fancy analog hardware synth is a fantastic addition to your music making, and will inspire you for the rest of your life

It sounds like a very old and beat up vintage synth that needs servicing asap.

Not sure what you're trying to prove with this but those sounds are crap. If you wanted to make a video about an analog sounding software synth, at least use something quality like the u-He Diva. I bought that like five years ago and it's fantastic. I can't even say fantastic compared to this because this isn't even on a level that matters.

I just got into EDM making and was a bit puzzled that I heard people talk about synths being somewhat complicated. Then I realized that my degrees in engineering of course made everything almost "intuitive", but if you haven't taken x classes in signal processing, filtering and mathematics, it might feel at bit more mysterious at the start...

Great video, great patches! - With regards to the SMP filter: Andrew Simper of Cytomic created these filters (for The Drop) and licensed the (custom) MD versions to Ableton + he said this about the SMP filter on KVR: "SMP = Custom MS20 Rev. 2 / OSCar"

Interesting video, thank you. I agree, many digital synths and VSTs or AUs can be used to create lovely analog-sounding sounds. And people don’t necessarily need an analog synth. The difference with analog synths is that the “warmth” happens more or less by itself. (If the synth has been designed to have “warmth” at all, that is.) It is possible to add lots of analog-y quirks to a digital synth. But it is really hard to replicate the ease and directness with which an analog synth can produce them. Yes, analog quirks are instabilities and noise … and distortions. But there are also other subtle effects. Such as the subtle beating that multiple voices can have, which can be very characteristic for a synth. Or the subtle idiosyncrasies in oscillator waveforms, that end up in the overtone spectrum. And because everything is based on voltages and currents, there can be cross-influences across components. Something can change subtly when a key is pressed, for example. Everything is somewhat connected (although designers tend to try to isolate the components, but there is always a bit of a remaining influence between them). So, the artifacts can also synchronize in analog-typical ways. - And the typical analog artifacts appear by themselves. I believe that all of these idiosyncrasies can in principle be replicated with digital synths. But it is not easy. And the digital synth needs to be able to support all these. And the sound designer needs to try to avoid the digital artifacts as well. Analog artifacts can depend on lots of different things. But analog equipment typically behaves “smoothly” … and that usually means that the artifacts sound “warm”. Digital synths have long learned to simulate analog distortions, where they are prominent enough. (Digital artifacts, if not created intentionally, tend to behave “abruptly” … and that typically sounds “harsh”. But digital synths have learned to avoid these in many places, except when desired.) The remaining difference is that analog synths have smooth / warm artifacts even where digital synths do not simulate them. The sound designer can try to put them in, with some success … but it is really hard to do it in exactly the way analog equipment would do it … because it varies in idiosyncratic ways, and everything is somewhat connected. I have many plugins for my DAWs. But whatever I use, I find it really hard to replicate the sounds that people create on analog synths. (It doesn’t matter whether I use many parameters on a capable digital synth, or if I use a digital “clone” of the synth.) The differences are clearly audible even on youtube videos, and the sound has a different character. So, yes, it is easily possible to create analog sounding sounds. But the sheer emotion that a beautiful analog synth sound can evoke is hard to replicate. And no, I don’t own any analog synths … I cannot afford them, nor do I have enough space. But the cravings are there. Some people experience the character of a sound very consciously, even the more subtle parts. Others may not hear the character as clearly. But however much we hear it, it still influences us. The character of a sound makes us feel a certain way. All that being said, there are a few VSTs that go a long way to simulate analog sound. For example, the U-He synths: Diva in particular. The approach is to simulate the voltages and currents in the analog circuits of a synth. Thereby simulating all the analog artifacts along the way. And it sounds amazing. - Note that Diva is still limited, because as far as I understand, it uses shortcuts to simulate the circuits, to cut down on the enormous CPU processing costs of a full simulation. Some others use similar approaches: for example, the Yamaha AN technology is modeling analog circuits. All in all, I believe the main message of the video is fair: creating analog sounding sounds on digital synths is possible, and those sounds can be lovely. But I think it is also fair to say that analog synths are valuable for their effortless yet subtly complex analog character. - Would I pay 10k+ for them? Nope. Not unless I was super rich. But I do value them.

Funny. I like Voice Table in TAL products. There are times of randomisation for osc, envelopes, filters, etc. But real deal is FUNNY to tweak and it affects your inspiration.

Wake up babe, new phritz video

Best use of Helvetica on YT. Cuts through the crap and focuses on the sound. 👍

Analog synths really do sound better though. They have an electrical warm noise that plugins don't recreate. They always sound warmer and fuller. I love both but we have to be honest.

I'm so sorry, i'm not an advocate for overconsumption nor an elitist snob, but this tutorial is ridiculous... The "warm" factor of analog circuitry is due to so much more than what you explained, and in much finer and imprecise/random manner, and yet there is still a difference between a carfully crafted emulation of an analog synth and the real thing. I have the TAL J-8 which emulates the Jupiter-8, and the Jupiter-6, the original hardware synth, and while the TAL J-8 is effortless in its sounds, the Jupiter-6 is that much better in that i didn't come across one single instance where a VST synth performed better than the JP6. I can't find what it is and it bugs me because i believe eveything has a cause that can be discovered and explained, yet i don't know why or how analog sounds are better at everything. But then after that, i also didn't come across another analog synth that performed better than the JP6. I sincerely think it's a master of all trades, so versatile it can do jazz, 80s synthpop, EDM... I don't regret one cent of what i paid to own it. *btw i'm not talking about "fatness" which describes pointless bass muddying up your mix, but warmth, this inherent organic space-like feeling

Now, put these presets in a real box, limit it's possibilities and make it a hardware (digital) synthesizer and sell it for 550$ to synth enthusiasts.

Spent years using soft synths. Bought a couple of hardware synths and my productivity x10d overnight. The thing is, it's not about the sound at all. It's about workflow and how I personally enjoy to interact with my synths. I realized I hate virtual instruments. I hate to program synths on a screen, recording midi etc - so hardware synths changed everything for me. If you love soft synths use soft synths. If you love hardware, use hardware. It's really as simple as that. Nobody who listens to your music will care what instruments you used to make it.

I most make music in the DAW, but I enjoy playing with my analog toys sometimes. I think they do sound just a little better than my plugs, but I cant usually be bothered recording them. Vintage synths evoke a strong feeling if nostalgia too, for those of us old enough to remember when they were new.

put an lfo on the rate as well

There is a HUGE difference between manually creating analog and proper analog synths... but also you can do a TON with good software. I have a Moog soundstudio, and it just destroys other digital tone generators in its depth and interestingness in playing a single note... with some exceptions. I put it next to some of the Arturia Collection, and the Arturia Collection holds its own. *Absolutely* you don't need all hardware synths. On top of this, as others pointed out in the comments, some of the new replicated hardware synths are as great as their super costly predecessors. But I'd argue that to have a few (inexpensive) hardware synths is really useful for two reasons: - they really DO sound better often - but you definitely don't need ONLY hardware synths - there's nothing like the tactile feedback of a hardware synth to juice creativity. I - and many others - find that there's nothing as inspiring as turning on one instrument and jumping in.

too bad, I just bought a Korg Prologue (so excited!!!!)

still sounds booty.

Analogue has instability in old circuit cities unique to the board. This is an interesting synthesis all the same

Owning analog synths + Eurorack for more than two years now, i can defenetly tell you that the "analog" sound does not only come from drifting oscillators. Analog oscillators will sure drift but in a much more annoying way than a stable, pleasing vibrato (which you did). I mean sure you can get sounds that will remind you of analog synths but the real thing sounds different. Difficult to put it into words but one can notice. But the title of your videos is still right.. you do not need analog synths to produce. It is a lot, lot of fun though and it just sounds superb. I personally like the sound of analog a LOT, for me its much more than a "80s retro sound". If you think outside the box and bring the synth to new limits you can get VERY interesting sounds that you never heard out of a DAW. Greets!

If you want the same thing without the horrible digital clickz you'lle have to spend as much in computer stuff than you would have in real playable gear.. ha! Sound is not the only reason we love REAL INSTRUMENTS.... i love my samplers and cz1000 just as much btw, but man computers are dehumanising, and they remind me when i was young and poor, and could afford the real things (amiga jungle/breakbeat sessions on the sound system, ya cant beat that speaking of poor; youi know what us producers say about limitations too...

Nice, but I haven’t had really a lot of lfo like pitch drift on my analog synths.

ANALOGUE SNOBUE, listening to fully mixed and mastered track: "Garbage. I can hear the freeware 1176 clone on track 11, the reverb tail on the snare doesn't decay like real hardware, and not a single bespoke wooden case with some tasteful adjacent houseplants can be heard anywhere." :P

"Hardware is too expensive" ... then recommends $749 software....

Really loving these videos lately. Keep 'em coming!

Waiting for the part where it sounds analog. I mean it sounds just like a digital hardware synth thats for sure.

EDIT: I've just seen below in comments where you adressed my point. Hats off to you sir, and good luck in your journey. /EDIT. 'So at its core- Analog-ness is about instability and warmth'. Not 100% with you there chief, I think you cover some of the output, but its a trollbaity title and you only cover unstable and warm lo-fi sounds. In a supportive, but critical (and polite) manner you havent really addressed the 'bite' of a fully fat modern analog osc set to saw, or the low-end power of an analog sine. You havent addressed the haptic - and ludic- qualities of a tactile 'thing' to be played, nor recognised the creative limitations that a 'box' will impose, forcing one into truly knowing the box you own, its quirks and how to fit what it can do and what it cant do into your workflow. I liked the sounds you produced here and the production qualities of the video, it is well presented and kept my attention. I have a hybrid studio, I speak for both camps, but this view could be expanded. My $0.02.

It's pretty straightforward really. The only reason to buy analog these days is for self gratification. If you have an audience, 99% of them are not even remotely interested how you made it and with what tools. they just care that it’s a good song that sounds great. high quality digital emulation of analog signal is superb these days; end of. it's a trade off between 95% digital emulation with all the convenience of digital production, and the 100% analog which is a pain in the arse to use in contemporary production. if the extra 5% is worth it to you, knock yourself out. but remember, most people aren't interested and it wont make you a better musician.

Doesn't really sound like an analog synth, more like something that evokes the feeling of what many think it should sound like. As such, it's a worthy creative gesture. I like analog synths. But from a practical point of view, for reasons that many of us are aware of and I don't need to repeat, using virtual analog is a better option. As it is, Xils Fxpansion and Uhe all do a good job for me, with Fxpansion and Uhe in particular featuring the addition of MPE which allows for expression beyond seventies and eighties oldies. Furthermore, many analog synths have quite limited timbres. Wavetable, FM and physically modelled synths all exceed them in this area, with far more scope for sonic exploration. Analog is not the gold standard of synthesis, it just evokes a certain range of emotions based in nostalgia for older people, and faux, postmodern, ironic nostalgia for the current generation.

There’s no right or wrong, but all I know for me is that I tried to make digital work, but in the end it’s physical boxes that actually made me want to make music and jam out. I know I could do way more in a DAW and I do a hybrid at times, but for a quick jam nothing beats a hardware setup.

Can we officially put Purist Derangement Syndrome between mental disorders? And let's put audiophiles there as well, but that may be between sexual disorders, like that of buying a Hummer when... you know.

Love Wavetable..... Damn shame it doesn't have a dedicated noise oscilator so you don't have to use OSC2 for such purposes though..... Better still just update it with a 3rd oscillator. Would have much rather thad than them keep adding new synths in every new version of Abe (that in reality I'm never gonna end up learning).

Today new analog and of course digital synths can't emulate the sound of a pre 80's analog. Back then the technology used had varying tolerances on each part when manufactured so just a small variation in the 120V mains would sent it out of spec. That's the reason why we can get close but not exact. Like with Dave Smith's new Prophet 5 synth which has a vintage circuit that can be turned on. Don't get me wrong I love the sound of any synth. I was just going into my teens when the MOOG modular came out in the 60's. I love the sound of any synth digital or analog. They all have a difference in character.

I'd like to see more videos dedicated to using midi control knobs for adjusting parameters. I have a number of physical synthesizers, and the immediacy of reaching for a knob feels to me as if I am directly involved. The clumsiness of a mouse or keystrokes with a software synth causes me to feel extremely disconnected from them. In video game lingo "immersion breaking". If that could be set up, even with physical patch bays where an actual cord could be plugged into an assigned jack I would be far more interested in software synthesis. Having said that, I have heard side by side comparisons with analog synth vs Arturia software synths, and I think the software synth sounds barely perceptibly "thinner" which could be a perceptual affect in my brain rather than an actual difference in the physical nature of the sound my ears can hear. Tangerine Dream uses Arturia live and they sound great to my ears.

Yeah analog or not, when it comes to electronic music, most hardware is a luxury tbh. About 75% of the sounds on my released tracks originate from a softsynth, but I still find hardware rewarding to play with. I spend all day staring at a computer screen for my job and sometimes I just want to wind down with something that feels more like a toy, something that reminds me to have fun. As far as digital vs analog, is the satisfaction of knowing that electricity is moving in a sawtooth rather than moving in a binary abstraction of a sawtooth really worth the price premium? Up to you to decide🤷🏻‍♀

analog synths are different every time you play them. If you're into "players" of analog synths, like actually playing the thing live as an instrument, not just sequencing, there are so many subtle nuances that are hard to re create. Like how the keyboard triggers envelopes and legato notes, glide and velocity sensitivity, as well as aftertouch and poly aftertouch. All of these elements help the player be more expressive and create a synth part that sounds alive. But if you are creating commercial type music, or trying to re create a simple analog synth patch, the built in plugins in ableton are more than adequate. Just don't make Herbie Hancock play in Operator if he visits your studio, or similar "keyboard player" type musicians.

5:27 sounded a lot like the outro for Squarepusher - Goodnight Jade for a few seconds there

Nice video! You’ve got some really cool sounds here

The ideas for analogish textures are good, the video editing is good. The playing and sound quality were terrible, it felt like playing with the computer keyboard and clipping like hell. Could you at least put a limiter next time? Sorry but that was not pleasing to hear at all.

Ableton's plugins hold more power than most producers know what to do with

you don't need any digital synths, you can use samples. the product (if you are commercially focused) or joy it brings you (if you are a hobbyist) is more important than what you use to create

Nice. Sure. I don't need fancy analog synths. In fact, I love Surge XT so so so much, so I don´t need even to pay for a fancy ableton Live. The thing is, after working 9 hours a day in front of a computer as videogame developer, I can´t sitting 5 minutes more in front of a daw. I need to patch something, twist a knob... I even using a old tascam 4 track tape recorder. I can expend the night like that. Hardware, for me, is not about the sound... is about the experience. And always, and I mean always, I come with something interesting. My favourite hardware synth is not even an analog machine, is just a digital virtual analog Nord Lead 2. You can get that sound with the crappy ancient free Synth1 pluguin. But boy, that is at instrument. I always start with a blank init patch an just try things... is a blast to use..

nice troll video. channel blocked from my recommended. get off the algo-baiting

Not sure why this video even mentions analog? And my homemade analog synth was a LOT cheaper than ableton. You can do this with certain digital synths and you certain things with analog synths. Anyone who says digital can do everything an analog synth can do has never actually played around with more than one analog oscillator modulating each other at audio rate. Neither one is better or worse, and I just make my analog oscillators so they are cheaper than ableton

Not only did I never release an album but I also didn't follow the instructions in your video's title and so here I am telling you how you're wrong because not only do I know more than you, but I'm also objectively better than you.

I reckon you made some good retro patches and that good music is agnostic to what tools make it ... Both trivialize things that are very difficult to do with the other and benefit from properties you can exploit creatively, while sharing a lot of common operational technique and procedure... Yeah, you don’t *need* analog hardware, but nor do you need software... but, say you wanna play banjo, and you love the sound of banjos, you’d be well advised to buy or build a banjo, rather than using the most sophisticated banjo emulating software, perhaps?

Some nice sounds. A lot can absolutely be accomplished by way of understanding how to get "that sound", if that's your bag. For me it's not the only the sound(non-linearities) that keep me from selling of my gear. It is the way each of them inspire performance not only through control but also the quirky(non-linear) way those controls combined with human performance, make the sound respond (their personalities). That said, I will never part ways with my computer or my myriad of digital plugins (and a few synths) which also have their own personalities. Also, analog filters are Truly lovely in the way they respond to material via various ways of modulation(s). They have a "character" I can't get with Cytomic or U-he's awesome models, but again,... I love All synths. You don't need analog hardware but if you love synthesis, well,.. I absolutely highly recommend trying that wonderful drug and decide for Yourself ;)

Fantastic patches! However, an informational (with clickbait-y thumbnail/title is basically null and void without voice narration. You’re absolutely right but who is going to believe you if you don’t tell them to?

great video. i made all of my sound design with wavetable. it's a great synth. Need to upgrade to live 12 now

It's theoretically not the same and will never be the same as a real analog filter. This sounds very very digital.

I work 90% itb and use almost entirely digital synths. This video is a great example of why analog is better than digital in certain cases. That being said, I have wayyy more soft synths in my workflow than hardware. Twiddling knobs on a computer to dial in imperfections vs just jumping into sound design and being creative. Musical expression happens in the moment and having a physical tool to use cannot be replaced by a digital synth. I map macros and values to an external midi controller but that is just time spent not playing and not being creative. Being able to play and change values at the same time is so much more engaging. Secondly, non linear breakdown of signals intermodulating is unique to the composition of alloys in each analog synth. I don't have to twiddle digital values to create unique imperfections. Thirdly, anything involving continuous time domain functions has literally an infinitely higher amount of resolution than a digital signal. I have yet to hear a digital lfo modulate a parameter without getting audibly step-y at higher frequencies. If anyone can show me a soft synth with the same degree of resolution as a vco I will eat my cpu. Both are good! If I want raw clean sub bass no fucking way am I using an analog synth. If I want to be inspired and use smooth lfo modulation you bet I am on analog.

This why i love sound designing !! I need to really work in it in order to master it ! Thanks for this video bro

Well I bought a Juno 106 recently and yeah you doo except if you’re making dubstep riddem stuff 🤔

I mean an analog oscillator vs a digital oscillator makes almost no difference sure, but hardware fx? Like a Strymon Starlab? HUGE difference analog to digital in MASSIVE favor of analog. Not a single software reverb in existence sounds as good or can do as much as a Strymon no way jose Edit: I spelled oscillator wrong twice lmao

I don't need analog hardware synths, I just prefer them and would prefer to spend my hard earned cash on a real instrument rather than a virtual instrument. Plus VST's are at the mercy of the Dev, Apple, Microsoft and Viruses.