@@Drfresh1402 Not to mention overkill. Think the end user will pick up on the £500 worth of updates you've bought in the past 3 years? I'm on 10 standard, I bought it for midside distortion.
This is too true. Ultimate Vocal Remover is just as good if not better in some ways. ARA is pretty sweet though tbf. Not having to export tracks to RX is nice.
😆 Same as the UK, except just the sight of the sunshine regardless of the temperature creates the same result (and some people appear with shorts on when it's around freezing) 🙄
As a beta tester of RX11, i was very impressed with how receptive N.I.'s product team was to our opinions, critiques, and recommendations. The additions, in their full totality, are definitely worth the updgrade
I never felt that RX updates are worth if you go from 9 to 10 or from 10 to 11. The money just don't worth the small changes they add. + almost every time I try the the new features, 90% of the time I just go back to spectral repair and us it for 80% of the tasks :D When I worked for an organization I was always with the latest versions (maybe this was the time I felt the new updates don't give me that much to worth the money, and the most of the new stuff is just a marketing assets for Izotope to show something "new") :D Right now the only reason I want to update from RX 8 is because RX8 is working under Rosetta and the performance is slightly slow :(
@@JohnMarshall-NI Yep, i won't be updating and this is the main reason. I emailed their support several years ago about this and was told it's on its way.... still waiting several years later!!!! NOT GOOD NI!!!
I wished any of the beta testers would made a feedback on the lack of abilities you get when working with selections... At least I wrote a long feedback list 5 or 6 years ago for some great improvements when working with selections, but neither RX8, nor RX 9 nor RX10 nor RX11 brought any quality of life improvements here. Still can't click several regions to quickly add them to a selection. Can't move a range selection locked to a frequency. This frustrates me every day while working.
If I log into Izotope and go to my loyalty offers it's currently showing me Izotype RX Standard 10 -> 11 for £94.50, sale price. Is that too much? I guess they either have to charge a lot for upgrades or offer an endless subscription model.
Since izotope and Native Instruments are one they completely lost the ground. I own all plugins latest versions and RX 10 Advanced and they offer me 350$ for a upgrade - seriously? sorry but for me this upgrade policy is unacceptable and need to boycott. For me this is a joke - esp. if you are a new customer you pay less .. sorry but … NO !
Much, much easier to subscribe to the Music Production Suite Pro. $200/year, you always have the latest versions, and you don't have to scour the internet and try to guess when the best deal will come out.
Thats my prefered use too. But there's better stem splitters out there, even Moises still sounds better. Spectralayers seems to be way ahead. Lalai is a joke tho, stay away!
You've been able to do the loudness graph in reaper for at least 5 years using the SWS extension. The analyse loudness tool has an option to print the curves to automation lanes. It's not exactly perfect because your scale is obviously not specific to dB. I'm guessing it's just relative. The main thing it tells you is the shape of the lufs values over time. Which is basically what Rx is doing there. More importantly, it's free to reaper users.
I agree. I have RX 10, I use it to clean up studio dialogue and that's it. It already has the features I need. There's an arms race on stem separation software so why commit to something when there will be rapid improvement in that area in the short term? RX, while brilliant for so long, now seems too high-end in cost and specific in its feature set. Maybe i'm missing something? In which case I'm happy to wait until there's an obvious reason to buy. And of course next year when 12 comes out, they throw 11 at you for next to nothing such is their marketing practice.
Thank you for this comparison - I'm using RX8 mostly for extracting stems and music rebalance, and I wondered whether 11 would be any better - it seems not - maybe AI will revolutionise 12, so I'll wait and see... I love your setup! I'm from the '80s and wish I had an analog 24-track, which was the norm back then, along with big ol' Neve and SSL E-Series desks - yum! I used JH24s often and always liked their audio quality.
I wish Go Pro just had an adapter for a mini xlr.. Good solve is attaching a Tascam DR60DMK to the Go Pro, but it is kinda big. Still a really small rig though.
Updated to RX8 back then because of Music Rebalance - since then I checked every update, but there has never been a groundbreaking new feature added that would justify those upgrade prices...
For the lufs graph part: Reaper recently updated with a really cool feature, short or momentary graphs on the clips. Really useful for quickly getting an idea of the balance
Had RX6. Rebalance is a major new feature and works well, other features are similar, but ML has made major improvements in some cases. Right now there is a decent upgrade price from RX standard or advanced.
I don't know if you do it like a joke or you are just used to repeat that ending, but each time is harder to understand due to speed and probably forgetting to say the whole words.
I think I use RX close to the way you describe, going back to version 6. For every guitar or bass part I record I start the session with a short noise sample as a separate file and use it with Spectral De-noise to de-noise takes before I start comping. Then I go through the final comp second by second manually removing noise and clicks using mostly Spectral Repair and Voice De-noise (works great on guitar and bass). I don't use any of the Assistant stuff. If I worked with audio that didn't have a clean noise sample I might try an assistant. I get the upgrades mostly to stay current with my macOS. If I was doing forensic work I'd get way more serious about the Assistant modules.
Right?! I got 11 this morning. $98 upgrade. Talk about incentive. And it sounds amazeballs (the crowd noise and brass separations..it's like they were made for my work).
I can't speak to their other software but the stems from RX11's music rebalance have way less artifacts than Acon Digital Remix, which is what I currently use for the same functions
Still no ARA support for DAWs that support it. Very little in terms of new features since about RX8. High upgrade pricing, and basically no incentive to spend the money. I can Crossgrade to Spectralayers 10 pro for the same price as the RX11 standard upgrade. Or grab Acon Digital's competing software. Both of their competitors support ARA. Not seeing the incentive to keep supporting iZotope.
The iZotope upgrade policy is a scam. Have been a loyalty customer for many years... have been paying for any single upgrade/update at crazy costs. Not fair upgrade prices at all for long time users. This is enough, will stop trusting this company. Strongly disappointed, not happy at all.
I've got RX10 & was hoping and holding out for RX11 to see if it would at least match the abilities of Spectralayers 10, but the unmix on Spectralayers 10 is so much better.
A mastering suggestion from Ozone 11 advanced is cool, although I mostly never accept any of it 😂 A repair "assistant" makes little sense to me though, if you don't know what to repair, you don't need to fix it.
Yeah, the mediamod mic is WORSE than the built-in mics on the GoPro xD I only really use the Mediamod to get a line-in connection from my mixer when shooting guitar or drum videos for example
bro i agree with you. DAWs are so far behind. what about something that let's you physically morph the EQ of every track without having to load it on every single track and 1 by 1 fix stuff
That feature completely replaces a studio. Your issues are operator error. When you know what you're doing you see that you no longer need a studio and can record anywhere.
Really great. I did upgrade. I am not sure I got my money's worth, but I am using RX10Adv to edit field audio, and it's working very very very well. Still will probably be working with the spectral forms down in the weeds for a lot of my noise reduction, but I'm finding your work with the bad mic in this vid very good. Je hebt me echt goed informiert, dank je wel. :)
The adobe podcast tool (free) is better for this kind of work, the AI not clean your audio, it rebuild it itself with AI, its like vectorize your vocals. It means is not your voice anymore but you get a clean recording, for outdoors recordings its pretty good and I bet is not the same for music, but in the future who knows. Im an long time Izotope RX user of course.
I think you'd want to have an opinion from field recording dude and a TV post production dude to tell whether the tools is nice or not (in this instance). I think it's awesome. If you think it's too unnatural then you push back the slider of that unproccessed track, right?
Because not always the dialogue should sound like it was recorded in a perfectly insulated vacuum and I know you understand that. They're supposed to have flaws and the ambient sound is supposed to push trough.
RX Advanced upgrade from 10 to 11 is way too expensive for the features. It would be worth the current upgrade price if they have included AI partial reconstructed speech synthesis. Adobe is miles ahead here.
VST companies are following other big business models that also think THEY need to have yearly models like phones do, WE DON'T this should be simply patches or at most updates.... Getting sick of this shit that is everywhere now...
The GoPro media mod, it’s a janky accessory with a few design flaws. I’ve got the one for the Hero 8, and it’s a pain to use sometimes. It feels hastily designed without much thought about practical usability. Typical GoPro they always release products that are not quite ready and that feel rushed.
For a more accurate test with the stem splitter, you should load in a shit quality mp3. RX is gonna have a much easier time with a higher quality file (eg - 48k - 24bit), as opposed to a terrible one (128kbps - 320kbps mp3 if you're lucky). This is how most people are going to use this feature (at least from what I've seen)
Honestly I have RX7 and i'm not sure I would upgrade... Unless people here really confirm that the denoising,dialogue isolate, ai tolls, etc are better... I don't need more functionalities, I need these existing algorithms to get better and better at what they are already good at. Also, did someone compare the music stems separation (or music rebalance, etc) ouputs of RX10-11, Lastest LogicX release (11 ?), and Moses app ? Can consistant pattern can be drawn out of this comparaison ?
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I am finding that the RX11 new improved Music Rebalance is indeed better than the v10 version. It's separating those stems more cleanly, with far less chirping artifacts than earlier versions of RX . And the new Sensitivity knobs do indeed tweak your results for the better, if you experiment with them.
I had the same feeling, in what I have seen. RX11 seems as good as Ripx in stem separation, Ripx stems even sound a bit tinnier in an example I saw, having some ambience missing.
The spectral RX editing tools are fine, but there are tools like dxRevive, Acon Dialog Extract, Goyo or Hush that work way, way, better than dialogue isolate. I was expecting a big update... but it has been somewhat disappointing.
without watching the video, i can totally agree. just because izotope was bought by native instruments and (to me) they are famous for bringing "new" stuff out which really is not. imho they are one of the modern swindlers in todays (plugin) world.
Sounds like you recorded your voice through a megaphone post processing with RX. Though I have had earlier versions of RX save recordings, I find the interface cumbersome and not always great results. My experience with RX 11 is about the same for extract, don't like the ammount of the artifacts. I find that most of the repair plugins have too many artifacts. I also don't like haveing to resort to the IZotope editor for full functionality of some of the plugins and the rendering time is glacial. Rebalance isn't fully functional as a plugin in Reaper but is ok in IZotope editor, it's slow even with an i9 based CPU and 64 gb RAM and I still hear artifacts. Unfortunately, it's still the best audio repair package out there.
A lot of people commenting on stem separation. I get why…but I don’t get why. What’s so important about having isolated music created by other people. Oh, I see why. 😂
I'm still on RX 8 too. Not sure I see a compelling reason to upgrade either. I work in dialogue editing, and I don't get why they haven't made De-plosive better. I mean plosives stick out like a sore thumb in the spectrogram! Where are your neural networks on that one iZotope?! Interestingly, some previously Advanced features are now in Standard - so plenty of Advanced users don't need to be anymore..
There are so many useful older tools in RX which could have been improved. On regard De-Plosive - I found the setting "Maintain Low Energy" as a very good starting point to remove plosives.
@@robertniessner554 Agreed. De-plosive does well with most low-level pops that live in the frequencies below the human voice. For those big accidental pops that can go up to 200-300Hz or higher though, I have to 'draw' them out in brush mode, which is as time consuming as it is simple.
Can't understand why a M1 Mac mini is struggling to run one piece of Izotope software... It's hardly 'dated' tech. Why does it take so many resources to run?
In comparison to Accentize dxRevive these RX tools for voice sounds like a joke. iZotope is waaaay behind the others. I'm still with RX8 and the next update will be Spectralayers. At least it has reasonable price what cannot be said about iZotope.
I have a question for you, I need software to remove voice noises, sounds for creating Audio Narration for ACX to pass the RMS Audio guidelines. And I'm told that RX10 Standard is the right one. Does RX11 include everything RX 10 has and new or it has different products?
I have RX9 standard . I mainly edit dialogue for video. With the latest Resolve 19 audio AI features. Im wondering if RX11 advanced is still worth it for me.
They’ve lost their lead on stems.(rebalance). FL, Logic, Serato are all options now. There’s no king. If I were N.I. I’d focus solely on making rebalance prefect. As best it could be.
@@Whiteseastudio I am German and used to live in Rotterdam for 4 years. Lovely people. Greetings. You can move to sunny Germany when the land is under...😃
I'm still on RX8 and I honestly didnt like the newer RX's. They seem like stuff you'd patch in as opposed to make a whole new version. But its Izotope I guess. 🤷♂️
@@Whiteseastudio I like silencer but when you're really trying to gate stupid tight it just isn't the right tool I don't think it does look ahead and it cuts off the transient. I've found that Pro G is better for that application.
For music rebalance (or removing unwanted bleed) that actually sounds very close to perfect, you should use the unmix function of Steinberg SpectraLayers.
@@Whiteseastudio ::(( recently been super put off by apple, OK nice M123 etc chips but why are theoverall specs so dated (8-16gb & 256 gb storage base models) and so pricey... and pricier if you need a better machine by a lot, and storage and ram isnt even expensive anymore... it kinda became a scam.
RX is overrated in general. Yes they used to be the best but there are now many other tools that do a cleaner job with slightly less CPU usage such as Acon Digital and Accentize, to my ear most of their software does a better job. RX just happens to have a couple of modules that no one else does yet, those are the only times I reach for RX.
