You HAVE To Try This SILENT BAND REHEARSAL! Easy APARTMENT Bedroom Band Setup + E-Drums and HELIX!

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Okay, so it's not fully silent, but it is quiet enough for my neighbors not to notice! Made possible by a lot of cables, a cheap mixer, an HX Stomp, a Helix Floor, a Boss OC-5 to cover the bass frequencies, and an e-drum set; it actually worked!
We are mostly jamming on Blacking Out The Friction by Death Cab For Cutie, and Dan (my brother) is soloing over the final chorus of my song, Gone But not Forgotten by Off The Reocrd.
Here's my song! open.spotify.com/album/6ZuLAK...
You can also find it on all streaming platforms by searching for Gone But Not Forgotten by Off The Record
0:00 - What Neighbors Hear
0:10 - What We Hear
0:43 - Intro
1:13 - Role of the Boss OC-5
1:26 - Shredding on Gone But Not Forgotten
1:46 - Why Do this?
2:15 - Blacking Out The Friction Solo
2:44 - Real Drums Are So Loud
3:30 - How Do YOU Do This?
4:00 - Mini Shred
4:20 - You May Need Headphone Splitters
4:40 - Mini Jam
5:14 - You Need Direct Inputs
5:35 - BOSS OC-5 Instead of Bass
5:50 - Will This Help You?

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@JawnJet 7 месяцев назад

play your the guitar the right way

@JavierCespedes90 Год назад

Nice. I love silent rehearsals, been doing it for 10 years with many bands. I love that you can share the metronome and listen to every detail of each member, therefore your playing just gets better and better, more clean.

@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy Год назад

Right? I love how precise it sounds. I kind of think a really fun way to practice might be to get an electric set going through a PA system at a medium volume so you can play without needing headphones but also at a volume that isn’t painful lol

@DepressedCapitalist Год назад

Hola Javier! Hablas español? Me podrias detallar como lo haces exactamente? Quiero incursionar pero solo tengo una bateria Roland Electronica. No uso pedaleras y solo tengo pedales Strymon. Pueden ir los pedales directo a una caja directa y luego a consola? Necesito que los 5 musicos tengan la mezcla en auriculares. Uso un amplificador/splitter de auriculares? Se puede hacer todo esto sin una PC? Te paso mi mail si puedes ayudarme. Gracias por leer. Saludos.

@JavierCespedes90 Год назад

@@DepressedCapitalist Hola hermano. Mira, en mi experiencia, hay dos maneras de hacerlo. 1) con una interfaz de audio que tenga suficientes entradas y salidas para los integrantes que quieres, la ventaja de esta es que vas a poder tener monitoreos totalmente independientes para cada miembro, la desventaja es que necesitas una CP y software a fuerza. 2) (la que yo uso actualmente), una mezcladora o mixer que tenga suficientes entradas y salidas, la ventaja es que no dependes de CP/software, la desventaja es que típicamente, las mixers tienen entre 2 y 4 salidas, entonces algunos musicos tendran que compartir salidas. Yo uso una behringher xenyx 2222, que tiene como 16 entradas y 3 salidas independientes, el bajo y la bataca compartimos una mezcla, las dos guitarras otra mezcla y el cantante otra mezcla. Metemos todos los instrumentos, incluyendo mi bateria Roland y el metronomo a la mixer. Cualquier duda me dices hermano.

@DepressedCapitalist Год назад

@@JavierCespedes90 Muchas gracias por responder Javier. De verdad. Mi idea es ir por el método 2 (no usar computador ni software) pero necesito independencia para cada integrante. O sea, corrígeme si me equivoco por favor, necesitaría una mezcladora de 8 canales mínimo, luego en las salida de la mezcladora la conectaria a un amplificador/splitter de auriculares en donde cada musico tendria su mezcla y volumen a antojo. Es así? Otra cosa, yo uso pedales analogicos (linea strymon, eventide). Puedo ir con estos pedales a una caja directa y desde ahi a consola? Gracias por tu tiempo hermano.

@JavierCespedes90 Год назад

@@DepressedCapitalist Si, necesitarías una mezcladora que tenga las suficientes entradas para todos los instrumentos y pues 1 salida independiente para cada uno. Respecto a los amplis/splitter de audifonos, no son del todo necesarios, porque cada salida de la mixer deberia de tener su propio potenciometro, sin embargo si es recomendado, para tener mejor control (yo si uso 2 amplificadores de audifonos) y calidad, ahora, como son salidas independientes, tendria que ser un ampli por cada salida, porque no puedes meter 5 salidas en un mismo ampli sabes?

@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy 2 года назад

Are you interested in doing quiet rehearsals? I can't afford a house, so this is going to be my setup for the foreseeable future!

@wholenoteamadeus4450 5 месяцев назад

What’s the movie that you got the clips from in this video? Reminds me of my band teacher lol

@Allinguts 13 часов назад

Beautiful

@sahrodzaman1417 Год назад

This is reallly what my band searching for. Thanks dude

@kendall72fxr 9 месяцев назад

Fantastic. I want to start having silent rehearsals. Thank you for the video. Exactly what I was looking for. 👍

@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy 9 месяцев назад

Glad it was helpful!

@bobwinberry 5 месяцев назад

thanks for the info - just what I needed and have planned to do! thanks again

@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy 5 месяцев назад

Glad I could help!

@Toxicleprechaunman5404 Год назад

This is perfect! Me and my friend play in a band and I just got an electric drum kit so my neighbours won’t need to hear the acoustic kit! And my friend plays the electric guitar so this will be perfect thanks so much!!

@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy Год назад

Glad I could help!

@theofillusdiangegana9846 Год назад

thank you for the tips

@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy Год назад

Happy to help!

@PupsMcDougal 2 года назад

I'M UPSET!!!

@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy 2 года назад

LOUDER!

@SonnetGomes Год назад

Great video. This is not only for apartments, but also condos. Givien the living expense, those days of practicing with acoustic drums at long gone for many of us. One thing I learned you can use headphone splitters, I actually use headphone mixers. There are so many cables now. I would like to eventually go wireless...but still trying to figure out how that can be done with headphones. By the way, you guys sound great! Thank you for sharing.

@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy Год назад

I would love to go wireless, too, but darn do those wireless in-ear monitors cost a lot of money lol. You're totally right about the cost of living. When I was a kid and everybody's parents had a house with a garage, it was pretty easy to find a place to rehearse and get loud. Now, in my late 20s with everybody I know renting a condo or an apartment and lots of people having roommates, that is just not on the table lol.

@holeesheet2021 Год назад

Nope, not at all on the table, I been waiting for a better living situation in the future, one that includes a chance to play my drums. Then I got a reality check… ordered a Roland TD17KVX-s, I’m selling my two sets,?harware , cymbals… all of it- it will help recover the $1609.00 the Roland set me back. Times are a changing, be part of the change or be part of the past!!

@agatone20 2 года назад

Thanks, totally a feasible solution, will get a mixer. I think we can do it better with a headphone amp so each musician can have a volume control for their headphones.

@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy 2 года назад

Yes! That's a brilliant idea. We had something similar when we did some live tracking at a studio as a full band. We each had individual controls for how loud each instrument was and it was a game changer

@RussellBobel 2 года назад

I'm looking into going a similar set up. Currently playing in a basement with a lot of of echo. I am considering having a similar set up to you only going straight into interface and then play through DAW. Thanks for the video man!

@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy 2 года назад

Glad it was useful to you! Good luck with the setup; so are you trying to avoid the echo by going direct in?

@RussellBobel Год назад

@@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy just seeing this no, I wish YT of comment replies lol. We were doing full band with acoustic kit in a huge empty basement. Had to crank it to get over the drums. Just had our first silent practice today in an extra bedroom. Went really well! Got a few kinks to figure out, but we were pumped!

@xbrandon 2 года назад

I'm in the process of making this happen. I use an Axe Fx3 and had an edrumset + bass sans amp I have a little more going on as my main computer has an audio interface and then to avoid running even more cables i just remote into laptop thats connected to my axe FX. I think i want to actually leave that laptop there and let the drummer control the mixer. I could use laptop to make changes but i don't anticipate that. If i go this route the only thing left i have to do is play with my mixer to figure out a way to only send my mic to aux or headphones and the guitar to the speakers and headphones This is literally only for me to do while practicing alone so people would hear guitar while im practicing singing and not ONLY me singing :)

@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy 2 года назад

Gahahahaha dude I think about the same thing. My neighbors just hear me singing with nothing else, it must be annoying

@bennybongosbigolebonanza894 Год назад

I tried to do this in 2008, yet the drum kit was the weakest link. I paid about $700 for an Alesis kit that just wasn’t up to the task. Now I have a great Roland kit that I got for $550! So going to try it again. I’m here for pointers. I heard you say you prefer the sound - I’ll bet it’s good, yet there’s a thing called “skull candy” where headphones usually make things sound artificially amazeballs! I suspect analog rehearsals would have to come into play at some point. YET - I think bands get tighter by practicing at lower levels and for that reason (aside from the obvious monetary/bothersome musicians reason) it’s a plus against analog. Mostly I want to chime in and say a decent Roland kit with dual-trigger mesh heads and decent “brain” is the most crucial aspect. You want it to be responsive. You guys nailed it! Sounded great! Also - good guitar playing brah! At least I know it can be done. Cheers!

@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy Год назад

Well said! There is still nothing like an analog setup, especially when it comes to drums, but you’re right - it can be done!

@MrStoutfool 2 года назад

I have an old school headphone amp. It’s also a Beringer! Maybe get one of those and run all your headphones into that. Individual volume and mix.

@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy 2 года назад

That’s a brilliant / affordable alternative to this whole setup! Let me know how it goes. I don’t see why that wouldn’t work

@Jamitjamming Год назад

Hi, nice video. Can you please tell us how to give diffeent mixes to each headphones?. Ofcourse, for guitar, I need to hear the guitar louder than the other instruments 😊

@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy Год назад

Good question! With the method that I show here, you wouldn't be able to do that, but I know it's possible. I believe there are other headphone mixers out there, though, that can do that. I've heard good things about the Behringer headphone amplifiers!

@bennybongosbigolebonanza894 Год назад

You can eventually look into using a headphone amp too.

@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy Год назад

I’ve seen that the Behringer headphone amp is pretty solid for this sort of thing! Definitely a cheaper option than the setup I use here

@rodrigomartins9692 2 года назад

Hi. Which Edrum model we just heard in this video? And...Is the edrum module sounds or a computer plugin sample connected in the module?

@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy 2 года назад

Hey! It’s the Alessis Crimson II SE and those are the stock sounds from the alesis plugged straight into the mixer

@chrstphroleuza1525 2 года назад

hello! great video, my brothers and I have been planning to do this cause of the same reasons you've said. Can you list down the equipment needed to make this happen? thanks so much!

@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy 2 года назад

Hey! There are a ton of different combinations of equipment that would work. Here’s what you need: E-Drum set (we used allessis crimson se) Some sort of direct input capable amp modeler like a line 6 helix, HX stomp, strum on iridium, walrus m1 (I can’t remember the name of the walrus one but they have an amp modeler) A mixer with enough inputs and outputs for your band Microphones (we used Shure SM57s and SM58s) Mic stands, of course, and all the cords you’ll need, and some headphones with long enough cords for your setup

@mmaviator22 7 дней назад

Been doing this for years except I use a cheap focusrite scarlett audio interface and reaper. And for the drums I use GGD matt halpern P4 kit which sounds absolutely phenomenal and better than anything found in the e kit and you just need to know how to set up the midi. You have alot more control using reaper and can actually record yourselves. Also another way to make it even quieter is to lift up the kit off the floor with a small platform or atleast laying down a thick carpet and the major issues are doors, windows, and adjoining walls.

@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy 6 дней назад

Brilliant! I bought GGD Modern and Massive but couldn’t figure out how to use it for the life of me.

@mmaviator22 5 дней назад

@@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy Theres a video on youtube somewhere were he shows you how to set up your ekit to trigger the GGD drum sounds. It mightve been the dude from GGD or maybe a random. If I can find it on my saved list ill post it as the basic premise works for all that type of stuff

@user-zp2mf5fj3u 9 месяцев назад

Hey, @Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy nice setup! Was curious how you eliminated the ambient noise of the drum sticks smacking into the pads in the headphones?

@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy 9 месяцев назад

Good question! I sang into a dynamic microphone, an SM57. I know that this isn’t what people traditionally use for singing, but I like to sing into dynamic microphones and situations where sound is really messy, because they only pick up the sound that is right in front of them, unlike condenser mics, which will try to pick up more of the sound in the room.

@josephalaguna 6 месяцев назад

Wow. I need to watch this closely. This could really help.

@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy 6 месяцев назад

Glad to hear it! Let me know how it goes

@jeromeclemente3672 2 года назад

Headphone splitters are good but what mixer or digital mixer has an output for a full band? I think a mixer that records each instrument per track on a daw is perfect for this.

@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy 2 года назад

Definitely; I’d invest in a better mixer that has those options if you’re going to be using this with any frequency/to record

@Zushikikato 2 года назад

Get a headphone amplifier instead.. 4, 8 10 channels etc.. One example is the Behringer HA8000. From the Mixer out to the Headphone Amp in to the band's earphones.. 😁

@Marcus-pv9le Год назад

This video was a huge help, though a small thing I was curious about, how exactly could you record a silent rehearsal on camera?

@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy Год назад

Good question! I sent the audio into my audio interface so logic would capture the rehearsal and recorded separately with my video camera, then recombined the audio and video in Final Cut

@thomasraven 2 года назад

I live in a house by myself and I still practice with electronic drums because my house is just 20' from the next house over and my neighbor plays real drums sometimes and it's freaking annoying to hear. TBH, this is more like a recording setup than a live setup. How is the transition to stage play without headphones? I have to think that would be incredibly jarring. I also value the movement of air from an amp irl. It honestly changes the output of my guitars significantly to play really loudly. I'd miss that, but this seems like a decent compromise if you can handle the transition to stage.

@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy 2 года назад

I'm glad you brought this up because the transition to a live setup is important. From my perspective as a guitarist/singer, I've not had any problems transitioning to a live setup with E-drums/a quiet kit (the bar I play at sometimes has a folk kit that isn't too loud) HOWEVER, I have been playing live since high school and I only started playing with headphones (sometimes) in 2020, so I already had a lot of experience in live settings with drums/amps/ambient noise before getting this setup You make a great point; going from playing with headphones to playing your first gig in a loud bar is probably going to be a jarring transition. And you are right, this setup was inspired by a recording setup we had at Lost Ark Studio in San Diego that I thought would be a lot of fun to rehearse with. I actually think I sound a lot better live ever since getting an HX Stomp because I use my Headrush 1x8 as a monitor and have full control of my sound on my pedalboard

@ruthlesscutthroat4030 2 года назад

Firstly, I like your video very much! its really good. Secondly, I disagree, I have same problem as you, I can not exceed 40db without my neighbours hearing it but the response from a real amp, is so much more musical than a digital sim. especially if you can feel the actual vibrations of the sound coming from the speakers. i think a good analogy, is like driving a car with your hands on the wheel and feeling the road, or driving a car remotely using a tablet or control stick. anyhow, keep up the videos, they're top notch!

@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy 2 года назад

Thanks! I think you're right that, for some people, a real amp is always going ot be preferable. Other people like the sound of a modeler going through a PA or through a PowerCab. There really is something about the movement of the air that is special. A really cool solution might be to play with electronic drums going through a PA at a medium volume and then being able to put your amps loud, but not so loud that they cause hearing damage lol. Who knows!

@GJ11598 Год назад

solid video and exactly what I was looking for, however is your high E on top?!

@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy Год назад

Yup! I play with the strings reversed lol. I started playing upside down kind of an accident but didn’t know for a while and by the time I realized it I was too far in. Honestly, I like playing like this! I have no idea how to play the normal way lol but I think it’s great to use your dominant hand to fret. What do you think?

@jaghies4769 5 месяцев назад

how do you play a backing track through this?

@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy 5 месяцев назад

Good question! You would need to put the backing track into the mixer via and auxiliary cord from your phone or computer into the mixer. Alternatively, if you have a helix or an HX stomp, you can plug that into your computer while you are also putting the output into the mixer, and then play the backing track from your computer and it will play out from your mixer

@fabloon2623 8 месяцев назад

great video. you ever have issues with lag?

@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy 8 месяцев назад

Thanks! Not with this method, no. I’ve had issues with lag with online jamming stuff like JamKazam. Analog methods like this or Jamhub typically don’t have issues with lag

@Mcgiver699 2 года назад

Nice video, you don't need headphone splitters just get a Behringer headphone amp and each will have their own headphone out and independent volume.

@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy Год назад

Wow! I just looked that up. They’re only $35 bucks in sweet water! That definitely seems better than a mixer for rehearsing

@Mcgiver699 Год назад

@@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy no, you are supposed to use the mixer like your doing but instead of the splitters for the headphones you connect the headphone amp into the headphone output of the mixer. The sound is more even and every one have their individual headphone volume

@jeffreyhoehn9307 4 месяца назад

@@Mcgiver699thank you this is helpful🎉

@Mcgiver699 4 месяца назад

@@jeffreyhoehn9307 nice to be helpful. Just ask any questions and I'll do my best to answer. My band is being doing this silent rehearsal for 8 years now

@kamynsk3263 2 месяца назад

What mixer are you using in this video?

@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy 2 месяца назад

The cheapest Behringer I was able to find. I think it cost me $95 when I got it ~5 years ago

@alextea1393 29 дней назад

How many channel for the interface?

@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy 26 дней назад

The mixer has 4 channels and my interface has 2

@williamlee6249 2 года назад

Was that a death cab cover?

@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy 2 года назад

Yup! Blacking Out The Friction from the Photo Album. They’re my favorite band

@zepblues 2 месяца назад

Get a small headphone amp. 4 outputs for like 40 bucks.

@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy 2 месяца назад

In retrospect, this seems like a way cheaper option

@zepblues 2 месяца назад

@@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy Thanks for the tips. Doing this setup now for a new project that requires quiet practice.

@mxgr194 2 года назад

What about vocals? LOL. Hey some guy next door is screaming / singing but there's no music......

@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy 2 года назад

Lmao you make a good point. I saw an ad for this vocal isolation box that’s supposed to make your vocals mostly silent so you don’t bother your neighbors, but I’m not sure if it really works

@mxgr194 2 года назад

@@Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy Not trying to give you a hard time. I embrace the silent stage concept for both rehearsals AND live shows.