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You're WRONG about the Grubs - Season 14 Jungle 

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Clearing up a major misconception regarding the Void Grubs and how much they're worth.
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@matthewlovesyou4902
@matthewlovesyou4902 6 месяцев назад
My favourite type of league content is good players/coaches with a very relaxed tone doing a 2-4 minute video explaining a common misconception by showing an example or pulling up stats
@PinkeySuavo
@PinkeySuavo 6 месяцев назад
i didnt even know about this misconception
@cashbag
@cashbag 6 месяцев назад
it's critical to get a least 1 grub from each spawn, to prevent voidmites and for the exp
@Phylaris
@Phylaris 6 месяцев назад
It's great if you can get at least one Grub from each spawn for sure. I wouldn't int or give up on a strong crossmap play for it, but for sure if you can drive-by and quickly clear or smitesteal one Grub it's good.
@trucmachin2840
@trucmachin2840 6 месяцев назад
In my opinion, the oft-heard argument that says "go to the Grubs anyway, just to get xp from the first monster" is also invalid. Unless you're already not far away, you're usually already gaining xp in your jungle (especially during the 1st spawn at 5min). So you might as well continue your farm cycle rather than leaving everything to go and do 1 Grubs. it's really not that important as an objective, or at least not as important as people think. And if you really want to avoid the 5/6 enemy stack, just contest the 2nd spawn
@Phylaris
@Phylaris 6 месяцев назад
@@trucmachin2840 It really depends on your other options and which way you're routing yeah. For example if you're Redside and opened Blue-Gromp-Wolves-Raps-Red/Krugs, then on second rotation it's not a large detour to go Gromp-Wolves-Raps-Grubs-Krugs and try to sneak one even if the camp is contested. But if you're pathing top to bot on your second rotation, and you're giving up a on a clean clear sequence into dive on botside just to try to deny a single Grub, then it's really griefing.
@trioz1819
@trioz1819 6 месяцев назад
​@@trucmachin2840i think is just about ult spike
@webignar
@webignar 6 месяцев назад
2:31 Gotta love getting ping restricted in practice tool. Great content, thanks for the info!!
@jdogsful
@jdogsful 6 месяцев назад
same as the afk warning
@gtagusta
@gtagusta 6 месяцев назад
i would like to further enforce his point about the extra exp you get after killing your first grub, the reason for that is due to the fact that epic monsters effects applies only to the first grub you kill not all 3 of them, this also applies to cho gath R and other abilities, items and so on that have special interactions with epic monsters
@WolfmanluPurpleclaw
@WolfmanluPurpleclaw 6 месяцев назад
And this is why I am subscribed, accurate information, short and concise. Have a great day man.
@iSlasheR22
@iSlasheR22 6 месяцев назад
I missed your videos so much was so happy to see new ones in my sub page. Hope to see more soon and maybe the return of the clear guides 👀
@zanebruce2546
@zanebruce2546 6 месяцев назад
Was not aware of this argument, but I'm here for the knowledge vids
@kapparooni8168
@kapparooni8168 6 месяцев назад
Stumbled upon your channel and I want to say it's so far fantastic, really well put together information
@Phylaris
@Phylaris 6 месяцев назад
Just resumed making videos a few days ago after a really long hiatus, so hopefully I'll have more relevant things to watch soon.
@kapparooni8168
@kapparooni8168 6 месяцев назад
@@Phylaris I hope so, I will for sure stay tuned for even more
@Monjijii
@Monjijii 6 месяцев назад
I was lost without your videos, now that youre back im gonna reach a new peak for sure.
@DonTheCrown
@DonTheCrown 6 месяцев назад
nice video, always a fan of people actually testing stuff more than once to figure out whats going on 👍
@SpectraP12
@SpectraP12 6 месяцев назад
And that's why belveth only gets one coral from grubs, not 3
@NurseJoe
@NurseJoe 6 месяцев назад
Phylaris doing some of the best info content as always. You've helped me so much climbing over the years that you probably don't even know. Thank you for what you are doing.
@Phylaris
@Phylaris 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for the kind words.
@NeoNoctem148
@NeoNoctem148 6 месяцев назад
very happy to see that you upload again been missing the videos!
@yuukifenia1611
@yuukifenia1611 6 месяцев назад
The only argument I've seen that made sense for this scenario was getting the first grub with the grub clear and hitting level 6 before the enemy Jg to win the fight and take the rest. The exp discussion always confused me for the reasons you stated but I only recently started to play Jg again so I wasn't aware. Very informative and well paced video! This + the Grub clear were hugely helpful even if they aren't always applicable.
@onemoment6769
@onemoment6769 6 месяцев назад
So what I'm getting from this is that if, say I'm a jgler that can't clear grubs well, I could clear one and get that experience buff, leave before they rotate, and go back to my clear. If I do this on the second grub spawn, I can deny a stronger early game jgler that full grub buff.
@Phylaris
@Phylaris 6 месяцев назад
You can do this yeah, if it's not a large detour. You can also easily just drop by and smitesteal one sometimes, since enemy jg doesn't have a Smite for each grub. That's not to say you should always do this, but it is a consideration.
@X33Ultras0und
@X33Ultras0und 6 месяцев назад
I'm glad this was cleared up, I thought it work out like "the first grub of the first spawn set gives the bonus 80" so if only two or one is left, then you'll only get 75, not 70+80. Grubs is a very slow camp to clear too. I often get dragon about 3 seconds after or 4 seconds before the enemy gets all 3 grubs (even slower if they don't have 2 smite charges).
@Phylaris
@Phylaris 6 месяцев назад
Grub take speed depends heavily on whether they're first spawn or second spawn grubs, and the jungler's amount of AOE. A champ like Hecarim will solo first spawn grubs in ~15 seconds. Second spawn grubs are WAY tankier (each Grub has +1000 HP or more, which also converts to more shielding), and incredibly slow and painful to take on single-target junglers. Meanwhile, second Drake barely has any more HP than first Drake.
@zachariastsampasidis8880
@zachariastsampasidis8880 6 месяцев назад
​@@Phylarisyeah unless you got super fed or have insane aoe clear it feels super bait to try to full clear grubs early
@FantasticKruH
@FantasticKruH 6 месяцев назад
Warwick without tiamat ):
@jurjen909
@jurjen909 6 месяцев назад
Also a good tip for clearing Grubs if you have short range aoe. Attack the front most grub. Pull the furthest 2 grubs towards river untill they are ontop of the first grub. Then you can more easily aoe them.
@Zolf3r
@Zolf3r 6 месяцев назад
really usefull info nice short focused video, enjoyable content, well done.
@kittensarecool
@kittensarecool 6 месяцев назад
So glad you are back keep it up absolutely love you
@jonathanrussell8998
@jonathanrussell8998 6 месяцев назад
This was some very interesting info, thanks! Didn’t know about all the jungle exp shenanigans. I never even knew about the whole EXP thing though, I only consider the grubs high worth because the challenger player I watch says that having the voidmites is extremely good (I think he said one time that if a team gets all 6 grubs it’s like a 90% win rate but IDK if that was just high elo) And maybe that’s also kind of a cause and effect thing like, if your team is able to get all 6 grubs they’re probably better than the enemy team, but still.
@Hydrodictyon
@Hydrodictyon 6 месяцев назад
I just started League, learned about grub path, then got randomly tossed into Jungle. First thing I noticed was the dissonance: people on the interned were tearing their throats telling me I gotta hit like level 6 with grubs EAZY, while no, I didn’t even cross 4. But I’m like acc lv14, maybe I’m dumb? Well, it’s now that I learned that I am, in fact, just observant.
@synnoh4147
@synnoh4147 6 месяцев назад
This is a very interesting thing that I hadn’t heard of before. However, regardless of whether or not they’re worth a lot of xp, it still seems like getting all 3 grubs, especially from the first spawn early, and sometimes even from the second spawn to some degree, is incredibly powerful and worth fighting for if you have the ability to push lanes, due to it being true damage to turrets that helps you get more plates for every single team member(Of course, not every team member is going to be able to push up and take them consistently, but its more the strength of it early feels a lot more noticeable than say a first dragon imo)
@Phylaris
@Phylaris 6 месяцев назад
Oh naturally yeah - the buff is really powerful in the right spots. It's just good to be able to evaluate the value of a Grub take (or partial Grub take) holistically, since the potential Gold/EXP payoff is always going to be a large component of any play as well, especially early in the game when you don't have a whole lot of it.
@CivilengineeringX
@CivilengineeringX 6 месяцев назад
Thx for the info As an emerald jungler this will give a new way to play around them
@kalil6464
@kalil6464 6 месяцев назад
Love the content, glad to see you back, can You do a Tarzan Graves video? i want to learn why hes top 1 KR
@DarkLeviathan8
@DarkLeviathan8 6 месяцев назад
Got my like instantly at the fake "wait im wrong" lol.
@SIMEN480
@SIMEN480 6 месяцев назад
Amazing!! Vid. Absolutely top shelf!
@DrenkoApenax
@DrenkoApenax 6 месяцев назад
welcome back king
@FzFrost
@FzFrost 6 месяцев назад
Very usefull information to keep in mind nice :)
@Maqnuz_
@Maqnuz_ 6 месяцев назад
I also noticed that when playing Bel'Veth at or after lvl6, she gets a Void Coral from only one Grub.
@Phylaris
@Phylaris 6 месяцев назад
Yep, same reason. Only the first Grubby you kill will count as an Epic.
@pychnektv
@pychnektv 6 месяцев назад
thanks for the video, I've seen a lot of people saying it was worth 300 exp
@MrQmein
@MrQmein 4 дня назад
thanks for the clarification
@thomasnguyen4427
@thomasnguyen4427 6 месяцев назад
ah. I didn’t even know that +150 for your VERY FIRST camp was a thing to guarantee the level up. now I know why I felt disconnect from what those content creators said versus reality.
@ggShini
@ggShini 6 месяцев назад
Great vid :)
@DaemonFranks
@DaemonFranks 6 месяцев назад
Love your content.
@AlphadystTFT
@AlphadystTFT 6 месяцев назад
"Wait I'm wrong" made me wheeze
@eyesee5413
@eyesee5413 6 месяцев назад
God like content my dude.
@garagavia
@garagavia 6 месяцев назад
It worked the way I thought, good to know.
@newbie2k477
@newbie2k477 6 месяцев назад
Very good video
@Andrea-wr5wd
@Andrea-wr5wd 6 месяцев назад
similarly Cho'Gath R only stacks on the first void grub,if you eat another without making them respawn it won't give another stack though it might partially be a bug
@Phylaris
@Phylaris 6 месяцев назад
Not a bug - stuff like Bel works the same way. Only that first Grub counts as an epic.
@Seige57
@Seige57 6 месяцев назад
@Phylaris So the first one of those three gives you a bonus. When the second batch of three grubs spawn, does the first one of those give large monster bonus as well? Or do you only get that bonus once per game, once per all six grubs?
@Phylaris
@Phylaris 6 месяцев назад
Second spawn is a separate camp. You can get the bonus again.
@peterpan2687
@peterpan2687 6 месяцев назад
Great video. Quick question about the Grubs: Does it announce everytime I kill a Grub like shows on the right side of screen to everyone or does it only show when i kill all of them?
@Phylaris
@Phylaris 6 месяцев назад
If you're not on vision, then only when all the Grubs are finished.
@peterpan2687
@peterpan2687 6 месяцев назад
@@Phylaris I see. Thanks for instant response!
@PinkeySuavo
@PinkeySuavo 6 месяцев назад
@@Phylaris However, you can see in the "TAB" if the number increases. If you tab and see "1" they are most probably taking it. You can keep looking, if it jumps to 2 then you're sure that they are at it. Not many people know about it and it's crucial just to run there or drake or some gank when you see "1" cause it just means they just started.
@citizen.spleen
@citizen.spleen 6 месяцев назад
as a toplaner, thx for sharing !
@kaltziferYT
@kaltziferYT 6 месяцев назад
Each player with jungle item get the bonus. So we need 3 smites in our team.
@Phylaris
@Phylaris 6 месяцев назад
Now this is the real shit.
@alesturon502
@alesturon502 6 месяцев назад
ganking bot and than going dragon first is the best way now... bonus points if you somehow make it to grubs in time and take at least one
@lightdk6321
@lightdk6321 6 месяцев назад
Phylaris is a genius
@justv7536
@justv7536 6 месяцев назад
Still going to have a monkey fight for these
@sampines
@sampines 6 месяцев назад
this video is an easy subscribe for me. Great content 10/10 would recommend. No, I am not a bot
@marianogenco673
@marianogenco673 6 месяцев назад
I would reverse the order of the camps. Because the larvae crab is going to be done and gives vision to the enemy. I understand that the path you recommend is safer, even so it is very compromising to give a lot of information in the early game for the other jungler. Generally I notice that it is always larvae per dragon... To avoid this, the path should be reversed and priority should be given to a single larva. Not at 3.
@jaycee6764
@jaycee6764 6 месяцев назад
thanks for this
@veno2195
@veno2195 6 месяцев назад
And that's why u da goat P
@TheMycelle
@TheMycelle 6 месяцев назад
This deserve to be pinned on the homepage client . 100% good info
@Pigraider268
@Pigraider268 6 месяцев назад
I don't know what this video is about, but as a Cait main I love Grubbs 💜🐛🐛🐛
@Phylaris
@Phylaris 6 месяцев назад
And the Grubs love you.
@Julez3133
@Julez3133 6 месяцев назад
dude that hec skin is so clean
@Phylaris
@Phylaris 6 месяцев назад
Yeah it really is. I think the base skin looks better than all the chromas too. The only thing I don't like is the feet...they're like flat little diamonds.
@obitooftheworld6761
@obitooftheworld6761 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for the info. From time to time I still see junglers who do not prioritize at lvl5 this crucialest camp of league
@YGP64
@YGP64 6 месяцев назад
Phylaris have you found out a way to kill the grubs the fastest? Do you focus on grub or get them all low or
@niwoh
@niwoh 6 месяцев назад
They get a % max health + % missing health shield, so you'll want to focus your single target damage on one at a time until it's dead, but you'll want any aoe damage to hit as many of them as possible.
@zealdestroyer7600
@zealdestroyer7600 6 месяцев назад
🍗 superb content
@CheekyHaggis
@CheekyHaggis 6 месяцев назад
Should one prioritize Dragons or Grubs Mr. Phylaris?
@CheekyHaggis
@CheekyHaggis 6 месяцев назад
as a general rule
@djb1928
@djb1928 6 месяцев назад
grubs 1000000000000000000000% @@CheekyHaggis
@Phylaris
@Phylaris 6 месяцев назад
Grub value is high if you have a siege comp or a splitpush comp that's constantly going to be chipping away at the turrets and applying the DOT. Grub value is a lot lower if you have a 5v5 deathball or melee comp that isn't hitting towers often. Grub value is also quite low if your team is losing and unable to actually hit towers. The same is applicable in reverse - if the enemy team is in a good/bad position to make use of the Grub buff, it can be more/less valuable to deny Grubs from them.
@zenyatta5064
@zenyatta5064 5 месяцев назад
I don't play. Does it not matter to get xp lead early? sorry if dumb question
@DanielGreis1
@DanielGreis1 6 месяцев назад
I have never heard about this exp thing anyways
@sephirothcloud3953
@sephirothcloud3953 6 месяцев назад
You are the best
@olivoliv-cr8om
@olivoliv-cr8om 6 месяцев назад
Also, belveth only gets one void coral from the grubs, from the first one she kills
@Twitch-oq3ir
@Twitch-oq3ir 6 месяцев назад
just the xp isnt worth it or am i wrong? 75xp is like half a camp and i dont think the effect is that broken that i would give dragon for that. and if you are getting stuff elsewhere on the map you can then still contest 2nd spawn to deny the 5stacks
@Phylaris
@Phylaris 6 месяцев назад
You're correct - I would not sacrifice a Drake handshake or a bot dive just to deny one Grub. It's just that sometimes those aren't realistic options even if the enemy jungler is on Grubs, just due to draft or how the game played out. Games don't always go ideally, so it's just good to know how everything works for the inevitable games where you do find yourself in a position where you're fighting for or trying to sneak/steal a Grub or two.
@niwoh
@niwoh 6 месяцев назад
You just can't split the camp tbh, I'd gladly give up a dragon for 2 full voidgrub camps. Probably even worth giving up 2 drags to get all the grubs but that's pretty risky since they can easily get stolen.
@xXTheBennyXx
@xXTheBennyXx 6 месяцев назад
Do junglers need to lasthit the grub to get the exp or is it just shared?
@Phylaris
@Phylaris 6 месяцев назад
Bonus jungle pet EXP is always solo and will go solely to the jungler as long as he participated in killing the Grub. The ~75 Grub EXP itself is shared evenly among all allies that participated in killing the Grub. Last hit only affects the gold split.
@TopCurls
@TopCurls 6 месяцев назад
I’m just gonna start asking enemy jg’s if they want to gentlemen to 1 grub each
@rickelmemonti1405
@rickelmemonti1405 6 месяцев назад
sick
@Daaanny
@Daaanny 6 месяцев назад
he’s talking about coach Eagz video 😂
@ciclonable
@ciclonable 6 месяцев назад
So my biggest concern is that i have seen many many junglers saying "they are not worth the time" and let the enemy get all 5-6 stacks of grubs. I never wanted them for the exp rate , I want them for the tower buffs. and if i am wrong about them being valuable, please let me know why, so i get better.
@Phylaris
@Phylaris 6 месяцев назад
They're both valuable. That said, the tower buff is only particularly strong for siege or splitpush teams that are constantly chipping at turrets. It's not as useful for 5v5 deathball teamfight comps.
@JessicaMorgani
@JessicaMorgani 6 месяцев назад
does it give 150 if you're level 5?
@Phylaris
@Phylaris 6 месяцев назад
Levels have nothing to do with it.
@Rayonnant_style
@Rayonnant_style 6 месяцев назад
In practice, people who are misinformed about this tend to smite grub 1, like it's drag/baron, leaving themselves open to being smite stolen on 2 or 3. Now that we know grub 1 isn't particularly special, we can at least 50/50 contest 2 or 3 by saving smite.
@algebraizt
@algebraizt 6 месяцев назад
I love the new grubs because its an absolute Thunderdome when they spawn and its hilarious. Help me secure scuttle crab? Nah I'm farming. Hey lets take dragon its free? Lol, no, we're recalling go solo it smiteless. Grubs? I mean they're okay I guess..guys? Top, mid and support all bringing their steel chairs to the river minute 5 and decide the entire game.
@danielshamlian2800
@danielshamlian2800 6 месяцев назад
So you're saying, if I kill each grub first as my first camp of the game, while killing each of the grubs first, then I'll end up with 915 exp for one camp... I can't wait to be the first one to use this a few times
@silvix3137
@silvix3137 6 месяцев назад
phylaris is finally back?
@heon9519
@heon9519 6 месяцев назад
will you ever stream, do you already?
@Phylaris
@Phylaris 6 месяцев назад
Nope, I'm a washed up boomer and play ranked maybe once every 3 seasons, just to make sure I can still play at GM/Chall level. There are way, way better junglers to watch.
@SuperbFairy
@SuperbFairy 6 месяцев назад
man's honest, I like@@Phylaris
@heon9519
@heon9519 6 месяцев назад
yeah but I enjoy watching you, plus you explain thing very well, consider streaming maybe you will enjoy it@@Phylaris
@N3207H05
@N3207H05 6 месяцев назад
yeah but i still have to fight for the grub spawn so theoreticly you are right practicly not.
@exxon101
@exxon101 6 месяцев назад
Get some grub.
@DamianSzajnowski
@DamianSzajnowski 6 месяцев назад
Eh, I don't jungle but that's intuitive.
@niwoh
@niwoh 6 месяцев назад
the convoluted jungle exp mechanics are anything but intuitive lol
@jazzWF
@jazzWF 6 месяцев назад
so in other words the videos saying you should just get one grub then leave are wrong and you must also get the other two to deny the enemy jg getting them
@Phylaris
@Phylaris 6 месяцев назад
Not necessarily. If you're tight on time and about to get collapsed on, it's better to get one Grub and leave than to overstay and die. Or, if there's simply somewhere you need to be right away, taking one Grub then dipping can be alright, since it takes longer to clear the next two (shields) and you'll receive less EXP than from the first one you killed.
@HerjungleBarou
@HerjungleBarou 6 месяцев назад
I mean you still want to get at least one grub since it’s a camp worth of exp
@Phylaris
@Phylaris 6 месяцев назад
A single Grub is worth less EXP than a camp and significantly less gold than a camp. It's for sure nice to get a Grub, but I wouldn't do it at the cost of a decent play option or Drake trade botside for example.
@HerjungleBarou
@HerjungleBarou 6 месяцев назад
@@Phylaris isn’t it the same as lvl 2 group? 155 for first grub, 130~ for lvl 2 gromp.
@Phylaris
@Phylaris 6 месяцев назад
@@HerjungleBarou You have to add 80 EXP to whatever Gromp's EXP is as well. Every camp benefits from that bonus EXP, not just the Grubs. Level 2 Gromp also never exists in the game. Second spawn camps are always level 4/5.
@RiptidexRiltreks
@RiptidexRiltreks 6 месяцев назад
Personally. When I climb. I like to make good use of macro and splitpushing. Voidgrubs make this process like 5x easier for me because of the weaker gp passive on turrets. It also ENCOURAGES these anti turret engage low elo goombas to actually hit the turret. So its absolutely insane. I give 0 fucks about exp Personally. And if the jg wants me to affect map with a massive amount of ease of use, they'd better get me at least 2.
@zera2314
@zera2314 6 месяцев назад
Lets be honest. The chances of an enemy jungler leaving one or two grubs up after killing one of three is low unless you happen to contest it while they are doing them and you manage to snag a grub kill. The logic of getting "the first grub" still ends up being sound because you want to kill all of them if you can or risk losing them or die trying to get them.
@Phylaris
@Phylaris 6 месяцев назад
It's for situations where there's a contest for Grubs. Often what happens is the junglers will compromise their teamfight positions to try to secure Smite once the first Grub gets low, thinking that's the most important Grub. In reality that's not necessary at all, and you can let the first Grub go and simply guaranteed Smite the second, since the enemy jungler already Smited the first Grub.
@jdogsful
@jdogsful 6 месяцев назад
i dont even view grubs and drags as a jg objective. they are team objectives. Im not fighting alone for a team buff if the team doesnt care enough to fight for them. i can just get ganks and gold instead. Ill ping objectives, but if no one comes, ill just leave it. Quite frankly, laners are the ones that benefit from grubs and as soon as grubs spawn, top and mid should immediately go to grubs and try to get them, not the jungler.
@bobfake3831
@bobfake3831 6 месяцев назад
why show the people now ill have to worry to lose like 10% wr lul
@LockArthan1996
@LockArthan1996 6 месяцев назад
Blows my mind that you're not the most visited channel in league for referencing jungle content. You should have a permanent spot in leagues first page tbh. Guess I'll abuse the fact you're not meta to climb lol
@celloj3703
@celloj3703 6 месяцев назад
Sometimes I’m so glad I didn’t try to follow any S14 guides and adapted to the game myself. I don’t have to worry about dumb shit like this lol
@Theguy-py4oi
@Theguy-py4oi 6 месяцев назад
No, you mosh at 5 minutes because it sets you a permanent buff
@moonblastx1996
@moonblastx1996 6 месяцев назад
interesting, and yet even though they are "wrong" but they're not, because functionally everyone should try to get at least 1 grub (their first) but really, silly argument because you should try to get as many as possible, it's always more exp, and their buff is BROKEN AS SHIT. get these grubbies people. this wins games easily
@Phylaris
@Phylaris 6 месяцев назад
It's important to understand in contest scenarios, so you don't grief your positioning to try to Smitefight for the first Grub thinking it's the most important. If you let the enemy jungler Smite it, you can always Smite the second for free while the enemy jungler's Smite is down. I've seen a ton of inting to try to secure that first Grub specifically.
@moonblastx1996
@moonblastx1996 6 месяцев назад
@@Phylaris yeah I get what you mean, but then again League players assume they know things and then they rarely actually know. i am back to the game after not playing for almost 3 years, and I didn't keep up with the game at all in the meantime. I'm still exploiting mistakes left and right. awful positioning, people drop wards while I'm clearing them so I can just clear more for free lol
@w58461
@w58461 6 месяцев назад
APRENDE REVOLTA, APRENDE
@Swoots275
@Swoots275 6 месяцев назад
tl;dr?
@Volidasp
@Volidasp 6 месяцев назад
who should care about exp? its an OBJECTIVE worth for pushing power your team gets,its not about exp or gold,like dragon and every other objective should be
@Phylaris
@Phylaris 6 месяцев назад
You want to consider both aspects, not just one - they're both very important. If you regularly neglect to consider your own item/level tempo as a jungler solely to prioritize teamwide objectives, you'll often end up behind individually and unable to impact the map as well as you otherwise could. That lost map pressure can be more much more detrimental to your team's ability to push lanes and take towers than losing a few Grubs. Why be a jungler that can only think about objective buff value, when you can be a jungler that can think about that, AND gold+EXP?
@niwoh
@niwoh 6 месяцев назад
@@Phylaris As a Nunu player I disagree, even full build my champ still does no damage and dies in 2 seconds and skill points are useless past maxing Q 😎
@iisollated01
@iisollated01 6 месяцев назад
Youre wrong about me being wrong about grubs
@Phylaris
@Phylaris 6 месяцев назад
checkmate
@thod345
@thod345 6 месяцев назад
i mean if MY JUNGLER takes ALL the grubs then THERE JUNGLER will never get that amount of exp so IN THEORY my jungler WILL BE AHEAD just saying (pls top laners already dont give a shit about them let them belive that their more inportand than they are im sure in a few patches ill have to do what i do for dragon SPAM PING THEM and stil get ignored) good video though
@hisaichiyushiki8219
@hisaichiyushiki8219 6 месяцев назад
This video proves that league players more often than not (every time) judge something based on false information or incomplete research. This is why people flame everyone in ranked. Everyone is wrong, stop arguing. Try to win with what you know, not what you don't. Idiots...
@ta-nez3013
@ta-nez3013 6 месяцев назад
the fact that you're saying every letter of "exp" is very frustrating
@johnpierre812
@johnpierre812 6 месяцев назад
wait ppl really believe that? Sorry but thats stupid lmao
@Polevolter
@Polevolter 6 месяцев назад
Came here so I can feel justified in flaming my junglers for grub flipping🫡
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