YOU Season 4 is Just DUMB | Part 2 Explained 

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Nadia not calling the cops when she saw Marienne was the dumbest part of the season.

New idea for the next season: Benoit Blanc appears with no explanation and solves all the mysteries and puts Joe behind bars forever

The only person who hates Joe more than Amanda is Penn himself and that brings me so much joy

I'm so delighted that Phoebe was able to get her own happy ending as a teacher in Thailand, away from her wealth and fame. She deserves the entire world.

It’s absolutely nuts how Joe was basically able to get away scott free when he’s been consistently killing ppl over the entire season and didn’t even realize he was doing it

Nadia calling the cops in spite of Marienne asking her not to and that making a different mess would've been more believable than what actually happened

Can we talk about the ABSURDITY of Kate's relationship with Joe/Johnathan. Like she hates his guts and sees right through him and out of nowhere she does a 180 and falls in love, how convenient!

Dropping Anti-Hero at the end was absolutely hilarious though you have to give them that

Girl, I relate to wanting someone, anyone, to ruin Joe's life. When I finished season 2, I wanted Jenna Ortega to come back and hunt his creepy ass down. Not the most logical thing, probably, but what happened to her sister pissed me off.

Joe has canonically killed 18 people, framed 4 people, directly responsible for 4 other murders And has placed 8 people in his cage and only 4 of those cage people made it out alive no thanks to him except for Will from season 2. With that being said, I enjoyed this season and want justice for my girl Nadia.

nadia finding out marienne was so annoyingly convenient, i wish they built around it JUST a little more to add to the believability

I wanna know how Joe jumped off a bridge and then was in the hospital but then still manages warp speed back to his apartment and all the sudden knows exactly what Nadia and her boy toy were up to enough to just slit a throat and think to put the knife in Nadia's hands for the set up? Hospital is required to keep suicide attempts for 72 hours minimum. Thats what fucked it for me. Joe ain't that slick.

What they did to Nadia legitimately upset me. I was so sad for her

The peanut oil allergy was a callback to Benji from season 1 and clued me in on it not being real, just Joe's subconsciousness

I expect Season 5's finale to end with a musical number

the biggest fumble to me was that they explained the fact that joe killed the ‘eat the rich’ victims for various stupid random reasons instead of going for the obvious “he killed them because they upset kate”. I mean c’mon. joe’s whole things is he kills people for the girls he’s obsessed with. he could kill malcom because he fancied kate at that point and it could fit with his whole ‘subconscious’ thing. like subconsciously getting rid of competition. he could kill simon because simon was a shitty boss to kate. and then they literally had a scene where gemma was being obnoxious to the staff and Kate was rolling her eyes and looking disgusted, a less stable and subconscious joe could easily justify that kill to make kate happier. I was so shocked when they didn’t go that angle, like idk if it’s because Rhys was technically Joe’s ‘You’ for the season, not Kate. but he was still into Kate and it would fit his MO, and tie into the end better .

Phoebe was the best character in the show in general and I will not take any arguments against that.

My biggest thing was the cage. How is he building it? It made sense the other seasons but there’s no way he could’ve done it undetected this season.

the weirdest bit was how fast nadia turned her back on joe and started to suspect him. she adored him and she started to suspect him really out of thin air. it really felt off. and i truly wanted her to have a different kind of involvement in everything tbh. i gotta say though, the scene in which joe frames her is probably one of the best and off-putting scenes the show ever gave us, so at least we got that out of it. i personally refuse and won't label what happens with Joe this season DID. i'd rather think they wanted a visual representation of joe's strong internalized denial about himself, laced with a psychotic break, but i honestly don't think nor want to call it DID. it's just purposefully theatrical is all, lmao.

The one thing that would've tied this whole season together would be a 'Fight Club' style scene where Joe pummels the crap out of himself. Also, guess the ending will just neglect the fact that Sherry and Cary are two wealthy media figures who could very easily dispute Joe's 'victim' narrative. There's also Love's family and Jenna Ortega from S2 who'd likely have some notes.

The main thing that annoyed me with this season is that Joe luck this season was ramped up to eleven to the point that it took me out of the experience lol. 1) not only did no one, not a single soul notice him not talking to himself. He also managed to kill people in the same place as other people, but escape just on time without getting caught at all. 2) He lucked out twice with women from Love and Kate. Two women that knows all about his past, and was like that’s ok I accept you still and then help him ruin the life of another

"THIS IS A STRAIGHT RELATIONSHIP YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO U-HAUL" Amanda I screamed

“This is a straight relationship. You are not allowed to u-haul.” Imagine my face after hearing this and right after finishing “Feel Good” for the 6th time

Someone explain this to me. 1. When Roald pushed Joe out of the window, did Joe immediately get up to go kill Gemma and then go back to the bushes? Because I can't imagine getting tossed out of a window, getting up like nothing happened, killing someone, going back to lie in the bushes again and then waking up just as Kate screams upon finding the body. 2. When Nadia loses her shit because the cage is missing and screaming about how she didn't know where the woman went. But a while later she tells Eddie that she saved Marienne's life. Was that whole thing just an act so Eddie wouldn't know she helped Marienne? 3. When Roald and Joe was in the basement, who lit the place on fire? It shows Rhys kicking over the lantern, which I thought could be argued away as Joe doing it. But Joe is so far away from the lantern, there's no way he could have knocked it over, especially since he's chained up too. So how did the place catch on fire?

The absence of Victoria Pedretti keeps making me forget there's a 4th season.

The problem with shows like this is that the writers feel like they need to up the stakes every season to keep the show fresh and interesting, but that also means things become more convoluted and less believable. The first season or two, they could get away with Joe being a stalker/murderer who maybe has a few close calls but is good at covering his tracks on a small scale. But this season and the last are just relying on so many coincidences and lucky chances, that it's not even interesting to watch anymore. Of course Joe happens to only dissociate/hallucinate when nobody else will notice. Of course the woman who seemed to be on to him is actually just a stalker herself and he therefore gets to be the hero. There are so many other moments that I'm not even going to mention, but my point is that by heightening the stakes and the scale, the show is really just losing it's tension, in my opinion.

I am BEGGING companies to stop using what they think is DID. In actuality from what you described was psychosis and disossication, but wow that was absolutely muddy.

People like me with DID or Schizophrenia are TRHILLED to see our two disorders once again mashed up as one to justify killing people and then getting a "gasp" twist, so GREAT ^^ Besides that I usually like the show but I think this season also has a rythm problem maybe I don't know the only episode I liked was the one narrated by Marianne but other than that I had a hard time keeping watching it

Joe finding an abandoned property in London is probably the most unbelievable part of the whole story, they are charging close to £1k for rent for a single room, that place would be on Spareroom in a hot minute under a shitty title like "dreamhouse off the beaten path/rustic living experience" & you`d have to share it with like 7 other people.

I’m so sick of him escaping I feel like they’ve done everything they can at this point. He should’ve been caught or murdered this season and just end the show but nope of course not. Have to run series like this for years right into the ground for that $$$

I knew exactly how the Rhys thing was gonna go, but the show lost me with Nadia not calling the cops immediately. Like, you've been showing me that this is a pretty smart person. She seems to be Joe's best student, she's helping him with the whodunit stuff. She's smart. But not calling the cops when she finds Marienne makes her the single dumbest character in the entire series. It's insane. Don't listen to the traumatized woman in a box, call the fucking cops and get her out of there. Then there's the logistics of how Joe kidnapped Marienne from a crowded train station and got her back to his apartment in the middle of the day. Or how he got all the materials for his people terrarium into that abandoned basement in what seems to be a fairly busy area. It's all so fucking dumb. I'm gonna watch next season hoping it's the last, just to see how things wrap up, but my buy-in is completely gone for this show

the point is that there is no longer the "redeemable" side of joe anymore that we see throughout the seasons. He is the full on monster now with no remorse.

Love the use of Joseph instead of Joe after he was talking about "just wanting to be loved completely"

Ummmm did y'all forget the pasts season that Joe killed not because of the woman he "loved"? He killed Paco's step dad in season 1 and the pdphile season 2 and they had nothing do with Beth or Love respectedly. Joe has never been one note. It's just he had one note that was more prevalent.

The part I can't get over is...how is he able to come back to the U.S. as Joe Goldberg and do press conferences like Loves parents didn't come from money and aren't still around. Remember...her father paid someone to kill him and the mother was fighting for custody of his child and told him that Love killed her last husband. Every season, there's someone left behind that knows his story. The girl from LA in the apt complex, Maryanne and Nadia. This next season better be his take down because it's gone too far now. Plus...what about the news articles and the books the friends wrote in LA after their death. He cut his toes off to frame Love but now he's alive and kicking?

I honestly couldn’t believe they let him off AGAIN and in a way that gives him infinite resources to continue killing and not getting caught. I for sure thought he was going to get what he deserved at the end of this season. I am so so soooo rooting for Marienne to be the one to finally kill him. She was my favorite character this season, which is wild since she was in less than half of it. I loved Nadia, absolutely wild how she’s just in prison. Overall I thought the season was kind of mid compared to the last 2 seasons, but I appreciate the change in the formula bc it was at least more interesting to watch than Joe’s usual.

In part 1 I felt really clever for working out the big twist, but then Episode 7 came along and completely delivered it in the most hamfisted way possible. Such a shame it’s yet another case of DID resulting in psychopathic murdering alters.

The second Marianne told Nadia they couldn't call the cops, I had to literally stop watching because it was one of the dumbest decisions that made absolutely no sense. the show could've ended there, but ig Joe going to jail isn't enough of a satisfying ending?? I feel like I'm just watching the writers on a loop try to paint Joe as a good guy, and then they remember he''s the villain halfway through the season... every single season

I think they are self aware of the jumbled mess bc they made Joe tell Nadia that her paper had too much going on and too mnay plot twists and I think it was just foreshadowing

I need someone to please explain the last few minutes of part 1. If Joe was imagining Rhys, then he chained himself to the wall (or at least made it appear that he was chained). But then he set a fire from which he couldn’t escape. Even though he kept getting called a hero, if Kate hadn’t come around when she did, it looked like he and Roald would have died in the fire. What was the real version of what happened in that scene?

Okay but penn literally gave away the plot of this season when he made the anti hero tiktok

This season is a totally unnecessary fever dream of a journey.

It’s so funny that you predicted the twist. Like I couldn’t stop laughing when I watched this thinking about how you said it would be dumb and they STILL did it lmaooooo But otherwise Lady Phoebe was still awesome, Kate was dull then fun then dull again, justice for Nadia, I wish we got more of Victoria Pedretti, and the chokehold that Taylor Swift has on this show needs to END

Nine times out of ten, if a certain character is only ever seen interacting with the protagonist, chances are that they're either a ghost or a figment of their imagination. You definitely called this plot twist, Amanda! 😉

They could've had a really interesting storyline exploring Rhys as Joe's You this season but they fumbled. They still could've had Marienne in the cage, with Joe keeping her there so he can show her he can change just like Rhys did. He'd visit periodically to lament about how the London group (Simon et. al) were asses and deserve to die but he wasn't killing them because he'd changed. But as he gets more obsessed with Rhys and his redemption arc, he loses himself in this You relationship and slowly forgets to hold himself "accountable" to Marienne and this in turn lets him lose focus on remaining "good" until he falls back into old habits and starts killing again for Rhys' sake. But eventually he realizes Rhys fabricated some parts of his story and so that sends Joe into a spiral and he plans to abduct Rhys only to remember he still has Marienne in the cage but when he goes back to kill her, she's already escaped maybe with Nadia's help and there could've been a subplot of how Nadia and Marienne had been building a case this whole time that would expose Joe for the monster that he is and finally we get to see some comeuppance for Joe. Totally could've left out the allusion to DID. But what do I know? Nobody pays me to write movie scripts.

I'm not sure if I'm the only one, but I took the dream he had about Marianne having an allergic reaction to peanut oil as a flashback of him killing Benji, this time with Marianna as the victim

Idk why they thought it was a good idea to split it into two parts. Even though the parts came out close to each other, I couldn't remember who any of the new characters were when I started part 2 and had to watch some of part 1 again to remember who they even were.

have I watched a single episode of You? No. Will I ever watch one? Likely not. Have I waited for Amanda to tell me what batshit crazy stuff went down in the rest of S4? Hell yeah

They could end the series here but Penn wants to do one more season. My guess is Marieann gets Nadia out of prison and they get their revenge on him.

I don’t watch YOU ( the show) but I have been waiting for you to talk about part 2.

Because of your plot twist theory you mentioned in the first video, I went into watching You with that in mind and was so underwhelmed when it turned out to be true. I’m so tired of tv shows and movies justifying psychopaths’ behavior by using amnesia or what is essentially Schizophrenia. What a cop out.

The whole Rhys manifesting as Joe's bad side, I had hoped they wouldn't go there but they did and I hated it, it seemed so lazy writing. But I loved the Marianne in a box episode, the acting, the visuals, I loved it. Tho I think when he jumped off the bridge, that should have been the end of the show. Maybe too easy but it would have seemed like a clean cut at least

The finale being that he’s “honest with himself” almost made me mad, but I couldn’t be surprised

Honestly I have no idea where Joe's story is going anymore, it deviated so much from the source material, while the author felt like she needed to change the original plot and write more sequels to make sense of the differences between the adaptation and her stories. It's such a mess when it didn't need to be one.

seeing joe clean shaven is so weird

One of the best scenes for me was when Katie tells her dad to back off as she's worked hard to create a life on her own with no help from him...and Tom tells her he's responsible for EVERY job she's ever had, magazine coverage, made sure she got that nice apartment and even squashed a story on Malcolm sexually harassing women that Katie never knew about. The look on her face realizing her dad has been controlling her all this time and now ready to "cash in on my investment," was amazing, so much better than rest of the year.

I really like this show, but I know that most things are mediocre at best. Things i liked in this season were Phoebe as a whole, the hallucinations when Marienne was about to die, but especially the idea of Kates dad. I liked him, because imo it showed how Joe would have been as a dad, as the contra point to season 3 and the 'kid makes you a better person' shtick. I do believe that, would Joe have decided to be a father instead of just a creator, he would have been extremely obsessive and controlling, because that is how he 'loves'.

I liked parts of the season but it definitely wasn't executed well. The dad reveal was good and genuinely shocked me, and I really liked Phoebe's story as well. I would've enjoyed a show about just her life honestly. I also liked the political aspect before they switched that on everyone.

"He...just completely forgot how obsessed he was." Seems like the writers were taking notes from Benioff and Weiss, then.

so basically this all couldve been what a lot of us wanted Love and Joe to be...or for Love to have gotten out alive somehow and been turning the tables on Joe. Couldve had it all

I honestly would’ve preferred it if Reece was actually real and Joe had to face a real monster just as bad as him just in a different way.

for me YOU just ended right at the river scene, him surviving and having a "happy ending" is sooo odd to me, specially when this aired right after Women's day

This feels like an elementary school story that ends with “and it was all a dream”

I really don’t think it’s a problem they dropped it in two parts, it gave us time to watch it without all the final reveals being spoiled.

Personally I agree with your last statement, it needs to end next season. It's full circle coming back to New York and to be honest it will be a little fun watching Joe go full out for a few episodes without the need to try and make him redeeming. But that will only be entertaining for limited time and if the plan is to show Joe at his most dangerous then spend the the rest of the season taking him down, I'm 100% here for it. Bonus points if Ellie, Nadia, and Marienne go Charlie's Angels on him (won't happen, but a girl can dream). Just as long as he doesn't end up a lumberjack in the Canadian wilderness, I think it could still work. However, that said, if 5 isn't the penultimate ending, I think the drop off will be substantial.

Critically acclaimed show, with its highest overall rating yet as of S 4.5, gets a negative review from a RU-vidr with a poster for the crippilingly brutal Spiderman doulogy. Can't tell if it's ironic or weirdly poetic

I waited for this video since part 2 came out. Get them Amanda!

Yes, if only people called the cops and bought curtains, 99% of You wouldn’t have happened

I don't watch 90% of what Amanda reviews, but she's so good at getting you invested in the story

I find it hard to believe someone as careful Joe is that he would not not at least have a camera in the glass box room lol also would assume he has move than one little lock to get in there. Or maybe he’s just a terrible kidnapper 😂

So funny, you called it about the Brit guy being on some Fight Club shit. I legit laughed at the reveal. Well done, Amanda!

I would like to thank Amanda for being our tour guide through the trash fire that has been this show.

I actually debated canceling my Netflix last month because of this show but I'm honestly glad I'm missing out on this disaterpiece.

amanda you are so good at pinpointing what i don't like about a show that i had to come here immediately after watching so i could figure out what it is.

i'm just gonna say it now: JOE AND RHYS SHOULD HAVE BEEN HANNIGRAM 2.0 AND THE CREATORS ARE COWARDS. I HATE the whole 'people with split personalities are evil' thing they had going on. It wasn't even accurate to DID. My friends and I watched pt2 together and were just stunned into silence at the end with how utterly horrible it was. just BOOOOO

In a weird way this show came up with a way to be cancel-proof in a Netflix world because if they cancel it after this season he gets away with pure evil.

The only well thought out plan was when Nadia managed to save Marienne. Everything else felt so forced

Tbh I loved season 4. Yes it might not be he most rational in place but it's like guilty pleasure candy for me. I kinda loved seeing Joe go off the rails

I loved the plot twists this season, and the scene of Beck and Love scolding him was just impeccable. But fucking hell this man deserves absolutely nothing that he got at the end of the season, I just wanna see him get arrested or killed already

These videos are how I keep updated with this series, because I couldn't watch it for real, so thank you :D Also it's amazing to see Charlotte Ritchie in such a different character than the one I know her for, which is a goofball in BBC Ghosts.

I do think going into season 5 (hopefully the finale season. Dear god make it stop) Joe is just going to be a full on serial killer or something. At the very least I don't think he's going to frame it or convince himself it's for love or protection yada yada. In final interview scene when he sees Rhys as his own reflection I think this is him accepting he is a complete monster who does in fact take joy in killing. Instead of the separation of Joe who just "accidentally stumbles" into murder and Rhys the sadistic serial killer, he is just one person now.

Can we all appreciate the subtle Oldboy reference with Joe killing his "monster" personality and then looking at his monster reflection in the window of a penthouse- (yes, my toxic trait is gaslighting myself into thinking I am not wasting hours of my life watching a show that has been consistently disappointing me since season 1, and this is how I do it lol). Thanks for the video, it's always fun and cathartic to see other people going through it 😂

Doing the people's work by watching it so we don't have to. There's enough there to make me curious but not enough to make me watch, so your videos help soothe that feeling. Thank you for stopping me.

Okay, but the biggest plot hole is the texting app... who is texting him then??? Was the app in his head? I guess it could be since they disappear after he reads them, and can't track it.

The moment I finished season 4.2 I was waiting for your video, thank you so much for this treat!

Was DYING for this video!! Came as soon as I saw it 😍💕

My face the whole time you described the dissociating: 😟

My theory is I think they switched writers mid season and that’s why the season was split into two parts (each with different writers). It also explains why some parts don’t make sense. Like the writing in part one was leading us to a potential to have a good part 2 but in reality it went downhill from there.

I was just thinking about this today like When is Amanda uploading her video for part 2?!

Sometimes i really love some of the shows and moovies that Amanda doesn´t like (avatar and You) but i really love to hear her perspective and opinion. Thanks alot for your work, i really like your videos. btw Joe and Emily would be a total hit.

Yes!!!!!! Thank you!! Ive been looking for someone to vent to but none of friends got past the last season

No wonder they had to split this in two, imagine handling all ten episodes of this idiocy at once!

Thank you! I was so confused. I was on episode 9 and I was like "is this every going to get better?" and then I was looking online for other people's reviews and I was seeing people were loving it. It was so awful. The writing. It was just bad.

My understanding of the ending is that Joe's good guy persona did choose to kill himself, but he had to push his inner killer off the bridge. The killer in him fought to live and made it back up. Never before have we seen Joe kill with a smile on his face, but from then on he's smirking all the way. In his reflection Joe has become the Joker-like Rhys persona who kills unapologetically.

I loved certain elements of this season. But I didn’t like how any of them worked together or the execution of most of them. And I was severely hoping this would be the last season. I’m sick and tired of them making excuses for joe and letting him get away with stuff so easily Oh, and the marienne episode is fantastic.

The baiting with Beck and Love being cast and especially Victoria being in the trailer was evil and had zero payoff. I love her acting and wasn’t that excited to watch part 2 aside from seeing her but they literally just used the collective love of Love to make us watch.

I feel like the dumbed a lot down in this season because they didn't want to glorify the whole easy murder idea, so when Joe disposes of Malcolm it's done in a way that's over the top ridiculous so you're immediately suspending your disbelief whereas a lot of the violence in s1 and others felt real, like too close to home real and I feel like the writers picked up on the fact they've basically made an omnipotent mini hanibal lecter the way he's able to just magically always have the tools to make a new cage, it's like the writers are intentionally making it more ridiculous so people won't think they're glorifying the violence, idk just my take on it

This video was great, I love your retelling of the season

Amanda!!! I would love love love to see you review S1 of the Sandman!