You Should DOWNGRADE Your Motorcycle (Here's Why) 

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Started out with a turbo Hayabusa on nitrous and downgraded to a ninja H2R, definitely feel safer being able to go slow through school zones and through the neighborhood at night

After 4 years and 40k miles on my 300 I’m ready for an upgrade. Not getting rid of the little bike though. Nothing beats being able to go full throttle anytime you want.

Been thinking about a "downgrade" from my heavy cruiser to a lower displacement, flicky naked like a Duke 390. Alright that's it, you've convinced me.

Brand new rider here. I mean, super noob, my first time on a bike was the MSF. I got my endorsement 3 weeks ago and picked up the Z400...it's been fun learning on it. I'm only at 70 miles or so due to my busy work schedule but I plan on taking it out more over the next few months and honing my skills. This channel has been an invaluable resource... thanks guys.

For my first bike 4 months ago I have the Svartpilen 701. So in love with it! I use it for commuting and weekend rides. So far I did 5000kms with it, every km puts a smile on my face 😁

Hearing "$5000" and "beater" in the same sentence is not something my bank account agrees with

Did a “downgrade” from an ‘02 R1 to a Monster 821 when I moved into the city. Wanted something a little more comfortable and a little less tempting

More fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow. When you have to wring every hp out of them but the handle amazingly, it's much more fun.

I went from a Honda rebel 500 to a Honda rebel 1100 and a Honda Monkey 125. Perfect combined upgrade/downgrade 😆

I have a dreaded ninja 400. There I said it. I have too much fun on that bike and I dont care what 650 + people say about it. Its hilariously fun and ticks all the boxes. Hell, sometimes I have so much fun banging through gears I dont realize I'm doing 60 in a 35!

I am looking forward, hopefully later this year, to see Spite and Yammie test the new BSA 650 Single... a bike of great interest to me as a possible 2023 purchase. Keep up the great videos guys!

Started on the Yammy Special FZ07 (2016) and WANT a 17-20 Yamaha R6. For the money I am tempted to get a 2015 Triumph Daytona 675R to start my Sport bike journey before hand and see how I like that first. Great vid Yam. Definitely helps keeping the mind open to new things and not to worry so much.

Always love the value your channel brings to the community

So the perfect beginner bike is an H2. No need to upgade, no need to down grade! I'm convinced guys thx! :)

I have a 1973 Kawasaki G5 so I think a moped would be an upgrade!! Great video and great discussion! Very good information to get out there!

Went from a 1250 Bandit to a 401 Svartpilen. No ragrets!

Started with a Suzuki TU250X 3 years ago and still have it. I've put over 13k miles on it. Wanted a bigger bike and started looking at stuff like the RE Interceptor 650, but couldn't get the cash together very quickly. Picked up a '97 Honda Nighthawk 750 for cheap, put about 2000 miles on it in the 6 or 7 months I had it....Decent bike, had a lot to like about it, but among other things, it was just more power and weight than I wanted. Traded it in for a Moto Guzzi V7 III (with about 50hp, while the Nighthawk was around 75hp), no regrets. the Guzzi does everything I want it to, and is more of the "like my Suzuki, but bigger" kind of vibe that I was really looking for. Bonus, now that I've gotten pretty comfortable on that bike, I'm even more comfortable with just wailing on the throttle on the Suzuki and throwing it around a bit

The Tuono line looks soooo good. I would absolutely love to see you guys feature the 660.

I am a viewer from India and have recently started watching your channel. Some of the motorcycling aspects hat you guys talk about might not be applicable here for the motorcycling experience in India (due to different things like riding conditions, riding experience etc.) but many things that you guys talk about are 100% relevant for riders in any country and I would like to appreciate that you take time to pick a ton of such useful topics.

I love that my sr400 doesn't have any "tech" on it. I'll never get rid of this beauty

I have a 2021 bmw s1000rr, a 2021 harley sportster s (rh1250s) and a 2022 honda grom.. I ride the grom the most by far, I literally ride that thing every single day. Soooooo much fun ripping around town/the neighborhood, rode it to work today haha

51 yo, just bought my first bike….a RE Meteor 350. Maybe need something highway capable in the future but love it for now

A Turbo 'Busa is neither a downgrade nor an upgrade, it is THE grade by which all others are measured.

I rode my mt03 from Montana to Oregon. I got side bags. Other than that it was stock. My backside paid for that. This year I am taking it to NorCal from Montana. I got new pegs, grips, and a Corbin seat. Now it’s a comfy bike too.

I "downgraded" from a liter bike to a F850GS. Still more bike than I can take to the limit in the twisties, and so much more versatile and better for long trips. I do miss those highway pulls though.

Down Grade from my busa bandit and fire blade, not now not ever

Added a CRF250L to my Multistrada 950S. It's awesome fun and I already feel a better rider. Such low stakes, you just mess about all the time. Also makes the multi feel 10x faster when you hop back on it!

I say try whatever bike when the opportunity comes, I think it makes the rider appreciate how every bike is different in it's own way.

Started on a Klx300sm got two years on it and several track days. I’ll get another bike and keep that for the small track and being ignorant. I learn a ton on that bike. Want to add an mt09 sp for some variety and longer rides. The sumo is too much fun to get rid of though.

I just bought a salvaged Z 400. I’m having fun tinkering on it and riding on it. What I like about small bikes is that feels like you’re going fast - but you’re not! Keeps me out of court and the hospital.

Stated out on 750gsxr, now have a hayabusa and love it can ride it normal or give her the beans and take flight.. In the end riding is riding have fun with whatever you got.. Thinking about adding a supermoto to collection just for a different type of ride but will never get rid of my busa baby..

I bought coco cow's 2006 triumph sprint st 1050. He had the buell in his garage! WA riders are the best community ive ever been apart of. Whenever I have pulled over almost every single rider that passes stops to check on me and I do the same for them.

I have a 1290 Superduke R and a 125cc scooter. Both are absolutely hilarious and puts smiles on my face I haven't had since I landed a lay on the booth girl at the movie theater.

my dream garage? Yamaha MT03 (with mods galore) and an R7 . . . using the bikes for different usage . . . start with the MT03 and KEEP it when you decide to upgrade, so you can have fun running around town . . . .

i have the most fun when i walk past my mt09 and get on my grom! and more people are interested in talking about the grom too.

I'm definitely trying to get a grom or something next year, to beat on around town.

It is about differentiation of bikes and their characteristics. I've upgraded from 650 cc (Kawasaki ER6) to 1000 cc (Honda CB 1000R NSC) and Kawasaki was waiting for its chance for almost 3 years then finally sold it. It was too similar to the bigger naked. If it was adv or touring type, maybe it could be used as a second one. Eventually I bought next naked bike but.... 125 cc and it is just city utility and commuting bike . So I did upgrade and downgrade :)

@Yammie Noob can you do a review on CF Moto motorcycles? Particularly the CF Moto CLX Sport. There is a dealer here in Texas that sells them but I have no clue about them. They have sparked my interest.

I feel this. I went from a 08 ZZR600 to a 12 Ninja 1000. Now i am looking at a 900 - 1600 vulcan or the mean streak. They just seem cool. EFI and liquid cooling. Simple bikes. Seem like they can go forever. Wont feel like i got to get 3 digits on the display.

My first bike was a 136hp BMW, my second bike is a 35ish HP DRZ super moto. couldn't be happier on the Zook, honestly. I do miss my k1200rs though! Maybe I'll snag a k1300s in the future.

Bought my first bike 3 and a half months ago and its been nothing but smiles every mile! Ijust Hit 8k miles on it. Love the R7, its big enuff to have fun and learn at first and powerful enough to push it when i have the chance. No Ragrets!

Started on KLR650 slow tractor, upgraded to an SV1000 it's got power not liter bike power, but way more than you should use on the street. Took it to the track, shrugged said it was too big and I didn't want to wreck my street bike. Got a whipped track SV650 for cheap to get me started on the track. I've learned way more on that 650 on the track than anything else. It made a huge difference to get onto a track and ride faster than I ever have in my entire life and also realize how damn slow I am compared to everyone else.

Nailed it once again! I’m Sounding like a broken record stuck on suckup, but as I’ve said many times before on this channel, I have both a 22-Panigale and a 12-Diavel! Can’t really upgrade from these bikes, so I’m looking @ a ktm390 or 7?? Duke for scooter and light off road duty!!🤷‍♂️

Went from a Monster 1200R to a Monster 937 - 40 lbs. weight loss makes the 40 hp loss seem negligible; lighter = more maneuverable / shorter braking distance.

I started on a Honda CBX 500. Then I upgraded to a yamaha 650 special. Then went with a 850 special. Now I have a Yamaha FZ09GC. They where all great bikes. But the FZ09 is ok. Thinking of going to a MT10.

Motorcycle insurance in my area is over $1000/year even if you have a good record. Having more than one motorcycle is out of the question for me. But with the rising urge to switch to a hyper naked, it's nice to have an external voice of reason to talk you out of it.

I bought a used '13 Ninja 1k in that stardust pearl white for $7k. Probably the best bike ever for town touring. Amazing low-end torque, acceleration and ease of use. Upgrading to a ZX-10R for town riding would be horrible due to the torque curve.

Upgraded from a Ninja 400 to a Gixxer 750. Kept the 400 for track days for the time being. 13 track days downrange so far. Love it but looking at ZX6R tomorrow.

good discussion,i just got a speed triple 2014 r off a street triple 660 and its amazing! i do understand the logic of getting a cheaper smaller bike for the fun factor.. good work noobs

I ride a monster 821. I've tried all the modes the first few weeks. After 6 years it's been on sport mode all of it. It doesn't need different modes. I don't even mess with the traction control or ABS settings. Kind of a waste of money for that stuff.

I just started riding about 3 weeks ago (cbr600rr) and I already want a second bike lol think I’m gonna get an mt07

I probably made a similar comment already. 2 of my favourite bikes are aprillia classic 50 (if you get a chance , try it, it is fun), and a honda shadow vt 125 cc. The quality of the bike is better then a 125cc has any right to be, hell better then most bike have any right to be.

Upgraded a BMW G 310R to an MV Agusta Brutale 800. I really love the bike when entering highways but for a daily motorcycle it's just too much, it also gets really hot on summer. I am looking for a 650 now

I just downgraded from a sport bike to a forza 350 and I'm happy, don't even notice any loss of speed on legal road speeds.

I went from 750 2 strokes to a +100cc Superbike turned dresser to an XS11 punched out to 1,300 with about 13:1 compression. Now I ride a KLR.

I got rid of the Yamaha Roadliner 1900, when the doctor told me I might lose my legs. I now ride a Kawasaki Vulcan Classic 800 that my son gave me, and a 2005 Yamaha Road Star bobber, which I love! All said & done, I'm going to get a Honda Rebel 1100.

I am tempted to trade in either my Speed Triple or CBR 1000rr on a GSX-S1000GT. Comfortable sport touring bike with the K5 engine sounds like a good time. Downgrade on power but a upgrade in comfort.

Spite do you still have your 690 smcr? I got one and have been waiting for videos!

I thought my first motorcycle was too big. My first bike I bought was an F700GS. I sold it and bought a 390 Adventure from KTM. Then I bought my dream bike, an Indian FTR 1200 FTR S. We have no Indian dealership. So I am building my experience on the KTM and riding the Indian from time to time.

I downgrades my Triumph Tiger 800 Xca to a Royal Enfield Himalayan and I love it. I don't worry about dropping it and I don't get a heard attack every time I pay insurance, want to mod it or need to replace something. Yes its slow, has old tech and doesn't want to go over 60 mph but I still love everything about it.

“$5000 beater sv650” lol as I clean my mine and cry Because I baby it lol. I wish I had that kind of money

I haven't touched my Daytona since getting a ninja 300. It feels like i'm cheating passing liter bikes on the outside. I enter turns an average of 10mph faster compared to the 675. The 300 is better in every way except on the straight. Granted i use 4 gears on all 3 tracks at cresson but does that matter if i exit the turns 20mph faster than an r1? I don't ride on the street. Your experience may vary.

My advise would be to start on some kind of allrounder bike. Mostly these will be Nakeds or Supermotos or Enduros, with the supermotos beeing the best option in my Opinion. This first bike does not have to be in the best condition and the latest model and with the highest specs because your main goal should be collection experience and skills with a bike in general, and figuring out what you want to do with your bike. Then, once you feel comfortable that you have figured that out, get a bike that differs to yours in the direction you want it to. For me, this journey gave me 3 bikes that i progressively loved more and more. I started out with 16 on a 125cc Supermoto. had to be 125cc because thats the only thing you can ride with 16 in germany and I chose a Supermoto because I am quite tall. This bike I mostly used to commute to school every day but I also used it on quite a few joyrides. In the 2 years until I could upgrade my license for a 48hp Bike, I noticed that I loved the height of the bike, I loved riding on gravelroads occasionally and I enjoyed a relaxed ride much more than trying to go as fast as possible all the time. Things that annoyed me on this bike were the lack of passing power, no options to carry stuff other than with a backpack and how unstable it felt in the wind. So to expand on all the points I enjoyed and in an effort to get rid of those that annoyed me, I got a BMW F650GS Dakar. And I absolutely loved this bike. It had everything I wanted from a Motorcycle at the time and I rode the shit out of this bike für 3 Years. Loved the height, loved the power, loved the luggage system, loved the heated grips, loved the wind protection, loved how effortless it was to got down Dirt Roads even with larger potholes. At that point, there were only a few things that I didn't absolutely love. Firstly, I didn't need as much offroad capability as the Dakar had with the 21'' front Wheel because I live in Germany and we barely have any Dirt Roads left. Secondly it felt a bit unstable at times on the road due to the soft suspension. Thirdly it was still a bit much affected by cross winds and last but not least, it had a bit too short gearing to go 130kmh on the Autobah for longer periods of time when I wanted to go on vacation with the bike. So I wanted a bike with a bit more road bias and less offroad bias than the dakar, that is a bit heavier and has more power and a 6th gear for riding on the Autobahn. So I got a 1200GS. And I feel like this is the perfect bike for the riding I do. It can comfortably take everything I throw at it and has never left me longing for more. The only negative thing I can say about this bike is that it is a bit heavy to move arount in the garage but I wouldn't say it is harder to manouver around, becuase the Handlebars are a bit lower so the ergonomicy are better.

Went from a zzr1200 had it 8 years, 84 k miles when I sold it, was riding ling distance (650+ miles per day) solo. To a drz 400s that I kept for 5 years (commuting, desert riding even moto camping with it) now my son (12 years old) ride with me, got a 650 versys (just like the "upright " riding position. I commute everyday with it but 2 up I need more juice (when solo too...lol) the versys is a good bike but I just need more juice...

My choice when I came back to riding after 40 years was a 2017 Triumph Bonneville T 120. 6 months later I added a 2018 Triumph Street Triple R. Is the Street Triple a downgrade or an upgrade?

Im on a 125 in the uk am I fuck stayin on an AM license

would love to see yall review my H2 SE SX ' local yocal ya'll - still breakin her in

Up or Down is kinda subjective. I have a harley softtail and a klr 650, both were my dads bikes so no selling them. Both have the same power to weight ratio, so my desire for another bike is kinda only driven by power to weight ratio. To someone else it may look like I have two bikes but it feels like I have one that transforms depending on what I pay for insurance.

Recently I've got Ninja 250R, while still keeping Speed Triple. I truły love that flickable, green goblin. It lacks power, and thanks to that, I can focus on my cornering techninqe. If someone thinks it is slow, no it is not. On supersoft Mitas MC50 tyres, it ripps corners 15-20mph faster than Speed Triple. On track I overtake everything in corners. From outside and inside. And when I get back on Speed Triple I can appreciate pure power rush more.

I’ve been trying to find the video where you promoted thin arm sunglasses while wearing a helmet. Could you help me out with the brand again so I could purchase a pair?

Nope… went right from zero experience to a 765…. 😖

drz 400 street triple 675 z125 pro the bikes I got in order lol z125/groms are a blast.

started on a ninja 250, upgraded to honda cb1000r 4 years later but kept the old girl. in the future, im going to turn my baby red ninja 250 into a trck/ canyon carver. although i really wanna get a supercub 125 and a scout bobber to my stables.

There are a lot of interesting points. I got myself an SV1000S as a starter bike (I know, I know), and it has been scaring the shit out of me for the first month of riding. I kinda grew into it a little, but I'm still considering a downgrade. Now the good question is is buying a smaller but almost twice as expensive MT-07 a downgrade? I like the idea of being able to toss my bike around and not feel too bad about it and also to be able to use more of it. Like if I got a 600 naked I could probably wring it out and still be okay, whereas with my current bike I've learnt to be really smooth and respectful.

I'm sure going for a upgrade Currently i have a 30hp husky 250 Looking forward to getting a 765r striple

Started on an 1987 fz600. Went to an fzr1000. Hadn't ridden for many many years until this year. Have my 2009 ZX14. The perfect bike for the area and type of riding. Long distance superbike it is for sure! So my downgrade is when I have to take my SUV into work.

I'm getting my first bike here soon its a 2013 yamaha xv250 and I'm so excited! I don't even have it yet and I'm already thinking of what I want my next bike to be like lol. Rip bank account

I went from a 2000cc monster bobber to a 200cc dual sport aaaaand it's so much better. I see no point in anything over 40 hp these days. The RE Interceptor 650 is about my limit now.

can you guys make a challenge where you guys take 1 person each who are total beginners and try to teach them during like a month time and then see who is the better rider to see who is a better teacher?

But its already 180kg anemic 60hp carbed bike, how much downgrade do i need.

LOL to some of these upgrades/downgrades. I've personally went from a Kawasaki Concours C14 (158hp from a detuned engine derived from the ZX14) sport touring model to a Royal Enfield 650 Continental GT. Gotta say I love being able to redline and thrash the RE without worry of legal troubles or getting myself killed. :D

Lol I came from a 2009 V star 650 to a 2022 Triumph street triple R one hell of a difference i Actually have one of those fancy new things called a gas gauge

My big bike is a 2012 VMax 1700. Still own it but this year I downgraded tot a 2021 MT09 SP. It’s so uncomplicated! Also nice for the fuel consumption 😂

For me it’s about hp:weight ratio. I’ve owned bikes 1.75 lbs / 1hp all the way to 11lbs / hp. The sweet spot for me is around 4lbs/1hp. An example would be the 701SM. I have an 890 Duke R at the moment and can’t wait for the 490 Duke or RC 490 to come to the US.

Ive been riding for a month. Today i accidently wheelied my bike twice. Did it feel awesome - yes, did it look cool - yes, was there a brown stain on the road after - also yes. Maybe i should have gotten a mt03 instead of an fz07, naw

I have a remapped Suzuki B-king, carbon wheels and endless mods, but my Zontes 310 is way more fun everywhere except on the freeway. I also have a Harley Springer Classic a beautiful bike that I spend hours just looking at (it's in my living room) again the Zontes is much more fun to ride.

I couldn’t see myself selling, downgrading or jut NOT having some kind of Supersport. So I decided to buy a second bike to keep my 2021 CBR600RR company. As a Honda fanboy, I went with a 2004 Honda VTX 1300, which was a downgrade and a bike completely out of my comfort zone. It’s heavy, chrome bits all over, cruiser-style, lots of low-end torque, V-twin engine, shaft drive, carbureted, super comfortable etc. Downgrading to a VTX made me understand why folks get a cruiser bike and it’s comfort, and also appreciate the performance of my CBR and respecting such a weapon. I did have a CBR1000RR as my second bike many years ago, and quickly downgraded to a 600CC class Supersport, because they’re just far better on track and have power you can tap into during the daily haul. Needless to say, I’m never getting a litre SuperSport again, and would love to venture into Cafe Racer and Naked Bikes from Triumph in the future. My next “downgrade” will probably be a Trident 660 or Thruxton RS

My Daytona 675R is never leaving my garage. I do like the idea of something I can rag around even more tho and not be speeding within 2 seconds haha

coming from southeast asia, even a 150cc is plenty fast in city traffic and daily commute. anything bigger than a 250 is definitely overkill. the only time you wanted something bigger than a 650, is when you are on a freeway, where roads are bigger with longer straight.

Had a V-max. All the power none of the agility. Scaled it down to a bagger. I liked the bagger but I wasn't ready to be that stodgy. Traded it in for a Z900 RS. Happy now...

I'm happy with my cbr600rr 07 ... But I do want a rc390 for daily commute gas savings and a little more comfort would be nice

Cb500f distance commuter here holding out for the Honda 750 Hornet 🐝 … please be good 👍

Just sold my Vrod for a Trident. So, Himalayan 462cc, Trident 660, 1978 CB750F, Tiger 800. I have a nice spread. Off road, inner city, vintage, distance.

Went from a 2020 ninja 650 and bought a 2022 Z400 this year, no complaints

I kept my 126 horsepower sportster and just bought a Yamaha mt 07. The Yamaha is just a hoot.

Today I taked the A2! I'm gonna upgrade from z125 to anything between 500/650!

Just do it lol… I had a 1000 sold it got a 2016 dyna sold that got me a gsxr600 sold that got me another 600 along with a 1976 Honda rebel 250 😄😄😄 love riding the 250 around town lol

from an outside perspective... someone who has been off a bike for years, but would want to get back in with a decade or two later perspective... but the coolest bike I would love to have is WAY too much bike, and way too much $$$... Diavel 1260S. Wish there were a 850-900cc variant like the Multistrada, but the Monster and Multistrada are not quite the same as the size and style of the Diavel. Would love an R-NineT with the looks and ergos of an update R1100S and Duolever. A stripped down no-bags modest fairing Gold Wing would be interesting. Would love a M-G V100 Mandello. Just looking forward to that one, but probably going to be expensive. Bikes like MT-07 and Trident 660 are likely enough power... but probably too small physically, my NT650 Hawk GT was WAY too small, but such a sublime bike. I may be an audience of 1 for an interesting road bike somewhere between a naked standard, sport tourer, and a cruiser that can handle, like Diavel, without off-road aspects of an adventure, scrambler, or dual-sport.

After riding big heavy bikes for decades, now I want a nice 400cc two-cylinder ADV bike.