All the points you mentioned are good tips, it’s just newer shooters sometimes need a good instructor to explain why these tips will help and what these tips bring to your shooting ;Slow IS smooth, smooth IS fast; one must crawl before they can run.
Shooters in general struggle with the thought of a crawl, walk, run. Myself included. We don’t spend anywhere near enough time in the walk stage, keeping our fundamentals clean before trying to break into high speed shooting. Cadence drills, check drills. 1 reload 1 stuff is all great for this but if you don’t spend time in the middle stage, your fast is just going to be flat out sloppy.
No they aren’t. If you try to drive the gun back on target after recoil you are guaranteed to shoot low. This clown simply made up his own urban legends to make up for the ones he couldn’t manage before.
You HAVE to drive the gun back down on target. That isn't a debate, you are fighting recoil. It's physics. Post up a drill and tag us with your time. We'll run the same drill and compare.
@@TATargets I use firearms professionally, I have a consistent “draw and shoot” at ~0.46 seconds, but practice and 26 yrs of shooting in a professional environment got me there.
We also have to realize that people process information differently. One tip that helps one shooter may be a detriment to another shooter. You have to find what clicks with you. One size does not fit all. For instance you said we are trying to drive the gun back on target. I was told that too by my first instructor. And I was consistently getting low hits or hits that were just all over the place. A different instructor saw what I was doing and just helped me a little with my grip and then told me that driving the gun back down was just trying to fight recoil and flip. He told me, don’t fight recoil. If your grip is good and consistent, trust that the sights will return. Don’t try to force them back on target. If you have a good grip, the gun is going to do what it!s going to do and you can’t fight physics. Let it do what it’s supposed to do and with a good grip, the sights will come back. And that clicked with me. Then I found out that the “don!t jerk the trigger” thing is BS too as long as your grip is good. I think it was Rob Leatham that said, if you want to shoot fast, you!re going to jerk the trigger. Big deal. Jerk it all you want, just make sure your grip is good and you can jerk the trigger all you want to shoot fast without moving the sights. So for me, all the trigger control “tips”, stance “tips”, and other made up crap didn’t work for me. I made it simple and it was all about making my grip consistent and let the gun do what it’s going to do.
Great video. I was a product law enforcement firearms inbreeding for thirty years and was also taught the mantra of pinning the trigger to rear, watch your front sight, and smooth is fast trigger bullshit. I'm a better shooter now that Im retired than anytime I was on the job. I seeked out training from practical shooters and began going to local matches. There my journey as a shooter had a rebirth and I have learned so much in a short time. In took me months to learn resetting the trigger on recoil and to stop "click banging" or pinning the trigger. The pursuit to becoming a better shooter never ends.
Good point! In my 40 year career as a LEO I became a State certified Instructor in 1988 and realized the cop way wasn't the best. I started shooting outlaw matches locally and ended up at USPSA where I put in the time to become a GM in Limited and even won some Texas state Titles. Of course, the LEOs made me an outcast at first until they saw what I was doing with the rookie classes I did for 20 years at our Academy. The SWAT guys realized they were way behind the curve and came around too. When I was asked what training they needed, they got hooked up with Rob Leatham and came back amazed and believers! I retired from the PD and went to the S.O. where I got the same questions. Again, Rob Leatham was the answer for the S.O. SWAT guys who also became believers. Practical shooting is a never ending journey to the top but way beyond the "cop way" of training for the "real world"....🙄
Something I missed when I first started shooting was breaking motions down into micro drills. Dry fire is the place for working draws, presentation, clearing your garment, target focus, trigger press, etc. I always wanted to do the sub second draw to 1 reload 1 and it hindered me and held me back for the better part of 6 months- because I was trying to dial that in with live fire. And I’d wonder why my hits were off or things of that sort. If we can teach new shooters to dry fire effectively and efficiently, as well as how to be critical and diagnose issues with live fire we could potentially save new shooters a lot of headaches. Thanks for the video man
What’s funny is, I have been asking myself “how do I speed my finger up even more” and literally thought about the same thing yesterday 9:40 same thing you’re explaining. Smart Men 💯💪🏾
Exactly, he misunderstood the concept. You can't shoot faster than you can shoot accurately. I have never heard of pinning the trigger back as in anyway being connected to slow is smooth.
Interesting. I’ve only heard the “slow is smooth” expression related to drawing and presenting, not trigger manipulation…because, like you said, “fast is fast” when pressing the trigger. Pressing the trigger all the way back, allowing the trigger to go all the way forward are all revolver skills, not pistol. I teach at a range daily and see the gamut of bad shooting from improper and outdated pistol techniques, many seeping from revolver training. Daily I see well-meaning mentors that have never updated their knowledge (and skills) from basic training three or four decades ago passing outdated information as gun gospel. Knowledge and skills are perishable. Never become complacent. Lastly, even Miculek says he flentches occasionally. It’s from the amygdala so it’s a pretty deep reflex…don’t beat yourself up too badly. Enjoyed the cast.
Pinning the trigger is a tip for landing more accurate shots if you keep missing. It's like a "slow down, try this and lets see where you hit" It's not something you're supposed to always do.
Slow is smooth is a thing you use with beginners. This guy and most of the other urban raconteurs should stick to their day jobs. Slow is smooth and smooth is fast was a saying introduced in the 1980’s talking exclusively about room clearing particularly forced entry. Then the urban raconteurs got ahold of it and made it part of everything.
@@TATargets speed is the Economy of motion.... Stop misunderstanding.... If you had any understanding you would realize that it is talking about minimizing tension in the body which is the opposite of going faster...planting flags...you say you want to be a good channel and then this.... Bash someone because they understand it different...
“Slow is smooth, smooth is fast” is a retarded saying. Going slow will never equate to being fast. Doing a buttery smooth 2 second draw will never make it any faster then 2 seconds. You have to be efficient and fast to be fast.
@@hopewilliams6705the problem is I’ve been in the gun world for over 10 years and have never heard that complete statement. Maybe it’s not Jared you wanna bash and the people who only use the phrase “slow is smooth and smooth is fast”. I’m willing to bet most of us in the gun community have only heard this the way it’s mentioned here. I agree with him, it doesn’t help anyone make faster follow up shots and instills bad habits.
First , you must have a place to shoot that allows drawing from concealed or moving while shooting and the only gun range in my area doesn't allow either !
Drawing from the holster can be trained in dry fire. Many fundamentals can be learned even at fudd ranges. Although a range that understands real skill development is definitely better.
I never found pinning the trigger to be helpful. I found it didn’t improve my accuracy one bit and all it did was make the trigger safety blade hurt my finger on my Glock for some reason lol
I been struggling with consistency for a while and could not shoot with both eyes open. Just last week when at the range I had my AH-HA moment when it finally clicked for me and I can now easily punch out the bulls eye. No idea what it was but I just kept constantly practicing and trying different methods until I combined them all together and made my own.
It also didn't help that a lot of the content on the subject is just an echo chamber causing training scars. I actually learned more useful things from instructors that aren't afraid to disagree and articulate why a way training of is bad. I'm hoping more people will continue to share useful info and just get out there and practice. 👍
@@TATargets Lets also address the elephant in the room. 90 percent of ranges indoor or out do not allow you to draw from the holster or shoot a magazine of ammo as fast as your showing in your video. That creates a training issue right there.
@@graywind4326 yep. But that’s where dryfire comes in. Do your foundational work dry firing. Go to range and work recoil management, trigger manipulation, etc.
I have been noticing so many of the "internet experts", pinning the trigger to the rear, then you hear the reset when they are firing the next shot. Every time, I thought WHAT ARE YOU DOING? Makes absolutely no sense. I don't get how going from a pinned trigger to reset with a quick trigger pull is accurate with that much movement. I trained to ride the reset, but it made it easy with shooting 2-stage triggers on rifles for decades.
I thought the same thing. It makes no sense just like guys shooting AR 15's and unwrapping there thumbs and using the so called precision grip! Those are my 2 biggest pet peeves!
The firing range is not reality. Too many amateurs confuse range skills with real world skills. On the range, it is easy to shoot fast at something that is not shooting back at you. Enjoy your rage time and don't take it so seriously.
They’d be wrong if they’re using that as a blanket approach and they’d be missing out on a solid training tool. Sometimes paper is king, sometimes steel is king. It depends on your drills and objectives.
They tell new shooters to pin the trigger cuz especially with pistols I've seen new shooters double tap those triggers first time they shoot a pistol and normally everyone's first shot they tend to lose all memory of the rules and instantly try to flag everyone of course you don't have to pin it after a few shots
@@TATargets never said that happened to anyone I've taught first off I only put 1 round in any gun upon someone's first shot so go ahead and say I suck when you struggle with a reduced c zone buddy
@@TATargets just because I've been to gun ranges a million times and watch RU-vid videos of idiots with guns doesn't instantly mean I instructed anyone of those people
@@TATargets you always need to push yourself to get better what ultimately helps is including movement, transitions to other targets and keeping Candace with the dot bounce if your running red dots I think of it like a speed bag in terms of when to pull the next shot if I'm trying to go faster
You are not driving the gun back down on the target!!! What you are doing is absorbing recoil and following through and re aiming. Driving the gun is a gross movement of the gun. You can either drive the gun onto the target from the ready position or drive the gun from one target to another target. Shooting the same is target is re aiming because if you are holding the gun right it will return to almost the same position as before you shot. There is no gross movement in shooting the same target.
@@TATargets No your not!!! So let me get this right. What you are saying is that every movement is driving??? That's funny! If you are a HIGH level shooter and shooting the same target over again and you have to drive the gun back down to the same target again then that means the recoil is pushing you way off of the target! If that is the case then you shouldn't be shooting at all if you can't handle recoil! Maybe someday when you understand English better you will understand that you have been taught terminology wrong as well!!!
