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Young Shuffle: The Forbidden Ultramarathon Running Technique 

Wild Hunt Conditioning - James Pieratt
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This information is part of a Beginners Guide to Ultramarathon Running Masterclass intended to optimize long distance running, which costs $1,200, so pay attention CLOSELY:
The Young Shuffle is a special running technique made famous when the a 61-year-old farmer named Cliff Young used it to win a 544-mile ultramarathon wearing rubber work-boots.
In terms of movement and biological energy, Shuffle is the most efficient way to run an ultramarathon.
I’m James Pieratt, one of the world's top hybrid athletes, and today I’m going to tell you why the Shuffle is so powerful and teach you how you can use the shuffle to GREATLY increase your distance as a runner. And be sure to stick around until the end to hear learn how I tested this technique by using it to run a 500-mile trail ultramarathon.
Build to a smooth pace, your foot rolling through each small step in a flowing stride. Don’t load up too much on your calf or knee and be sure not to bounce too much. This wastes energy and fatigue local muscles unnecessarily. Instead focus on creating a flowing stride with a harmonious rhythm between your steps and breathing. While the Young Shuffle is technically slower than other running styles, it is also much more efficient and therefore allows you to go a lot further without stopping. This can give you a big advantage against conventional runners over ultramarathon distances.
Control your tension. The Young Shuffle is the most efficient way to run, but clinching your muscles, your hands or your jaw is a sign of tension that will drain your battery much sooner. So, keep a smooth, flowing disposition to your body and release any tension wherever you find it.
In addition to being the most energy efficient way to run, the Shuffle is also an excellent way to run over rugged ground and steep terrain, where a long, athletic stride will regularly falter or leave a runner vulnerable to injury. It can also be a great technique for runners with a history of joint injuries, as the Shuffle is smoother and involves less impact than other forms of running.
One drill you can do to teach yourself how to properly do the Cliff Young Shuffle is to find a very slight downward slope to practice on. Don’t worry about your pace and don’t over-analyze every small detail. Just let your body discover the motion using the cues we’ve talked about create a smooth stride with small rolling steps, sync your breathing with your steps, control your tension and let it flow naturally, using the subtle decline to help your body find its most efficient stride.
I used the Young Shuffle to run a 500-mile Ultramarathon on the Pacific Crest Trail, with more elevation gain than I had climbed Mt. Everest twice, and it remains my favorite running technique for my wilderness ultramarathons. If you want to hear more about that, be sure to check out my video Thug Life: The Final Chapter, which covers the whole event from start to finish.
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@quentinbell5617
@quentinbell5617 5 месяцев назад
I was thinking this video would actually show video footage of the young shuffle.
@LVQ-so5th
@LVQ-so5th 15 дней назад
I kept waiting for a demonstration.
@Arithryka
@Arithryka 9 дней назад
0:19 0:51 1:08 1:43 2:40 did you even watch the video?
@ErikItland
@ErikItland 8 дней назад
That looks like what I would consider normal relaxed jogging to me? Is that why I always found it easy and could run for kilometers in plain Norwegian army boots? Or is there something I am missing? I'm watching this now because I am trying to recover (no, probably not because of my running style but because of (small) motorcycle accident on ice).
@sheriashley7692
@sheriashley7692 2 месяца назад
Cliffy Young was a true blue bloody Aussie legend from my home state of Victoria Australia 🇦🇺 Cliffy used to chase sheep up and down steep hills of his family farm - this just came to him naturally & he used to run Everywhere in gumboots!! The organisers laughed at a 61 y.o man fronting to run a marathon ; 2.5 days in as he quickly passed other runners they were not laughing at Cliffy they were applauding him!! He smashed records and belief about what was possible. He sadly died of cancer 20 years after that great marathon win. RIP CLIFFY YOUNG!!
@AncoraImparoPiper
@AncoraImparoPiper 14 дней назад
I was a kid runner then and I remember him suddenly appearing on the news. I was awed. I remember Cliffy every time I do my long run and thinking of him improves my technique instantly and I feel energised again. Cliffy is a legend among us Aussie runners.
@NixonAngelo
@NixonAngelo 6 месяцев назад
Fun fact: humans can run longer than any animal on earth
@sativothegrail461
@sativothegrail461 5 месяцев назад
You never knew my hamster bro 😂
@darkfoxx87
@darkfoxx87 5 месяцев назад
We're endurance animals, that's why we're weaker and slower than almost all other animals
@NixonAngelo
@NixonAngelo 5 месяцев назад
@@darkfoxx87 those sweat glands were basically a cheat against mother nature 😂
@andrewrouth249
@andrewrouth249 5 месяцев назад
There are tribes that hunt by outrunning deer for miles and miles. The deer burn out and the tribe catches up
@jakec6800
@jakec6800 5 месяцев назад
Nobody is running further than a husky stfu with Ur lies
@v4forlife
@v4forlife 6 месяцев назад
This is how we tab in the army. Boots and weight and this is the most efficient method of running without trashing your knees. Nice to know I’ve been doing something right!
@WyattFL5
@WyattFL5 5 месяцев назад
Exactly. I was thinking this is the natural movement for running in formation.
@aquateenjunkie21
@aquateenjunkie21 5 месяцев назад
So dude made a 5 min video explaining what jogging is
@philipstevens730
@philipstevens730 27 дней назад
We used to call this the commando shuffle when I was in the Royal Marines. We used to have to carry a shit tonne of weight and running properly was not physically possible, but this style of shuffle was and you can keep it up over all kinds of terrain.
@maratonlegendelenemirei3352
@maratonlegendelenemirei3352 20 дней назад
Winter selection UKSF 2006 Royal Marines preferred to hold hands during test week.
@julianbutler6298
@julianbutler6298 5 месяцев назад
In South Africa we call this style of running "jogging"😊 - in fact older runners like me (70+) do it instinctively!
@Headhunter_212
@Headhunter_212 13 дней назад
This must be predominant for older runners at The Comrades. .
@JCTXFF
@JCTXFF 5 дней назад
Jogging is what we call it in Texas too.
@nigelliam153
@nigelliam153 3 дня назад
You’ve never watched Cliff Young shuffle, nothing like jogging. The big thing was he didn’t stop for a rest unlike the younger competitors.
@jameslee7961
@jameslee7961 6 месяцев назад
When you run bare feet you naturally do that shuffle. When you watch persistence hunters they shuffle more than they jog. Awesome breakdown and tips!
@DaddyVet3D
@DaddyVet3D 5 месяцев назад
I didn’t know that this was an official thing but I figured this out on accident when I was in the army doing rock marches. Everyone wanted me to do quick bursts of speed and then slow down to right above the walking pace and keep doing that over and over for the whole 12 miles. I tried that a few times but found if I kept the slower “shuffle” speed the whole time I didn’t feel as drained and exhausted. Worked perfectly.
@vtodaf4298
@vtodaf4298 7 месяцев назад
Dude! I’m so glad that you were doing this man. I naturally think about all the stuff in a similar way that you do. I’m very grateful that all of the effort that you put into providing all this information. With all the experience involved, which is probably the best part of all of it, you’re doing it. Not faking the funk! Keep up the bad ass work thug!!!
@wildhuntconditioning
@wildhuntconditioning 7 месяцев назад
Love to hear that! Keep after it bro!
@heartandmindovercome3214
@heartandmindovercome3214 5 месяцев назад
Favorite athletics channel. It's not just "here's a technique," there's history and rationale behind it. Love it 👍🔥
@boostabuse
@boostabuse 6 месяцев назад
Good old Cliff beat the record which was 7 days and he did it in 5. watch the doco on him great too watch and inspiring, while the competitors slept Cliff kept on shuffling with no sleep,I remember it like it was yesterday, 👍👍
@careerdog
@careerdog 6 месяцев назад
Dude you came out of left field and blowing my mind! Everything I’ve known finally distilled
@joeproctor2216
@joeproctor2216 7 месяцев назад
Great video!!! Can't wait to give it a shot! Thank you!
@amorfatiloveyourfate
@amorfatiloveyourfate 11 дней назад
I've never been a runner, but approaching middle age, I've decided to try it out. I definitely shuffle. I know I don't look elegant, but it gets the job done
@pankithan
@pankithan 7 месяцев назад
Will implement this in my running. Thank you for sharing this!
@Aryan_Gentleman_
@Aryan_Gentleman_ 5 месяцев назад
So it's been over a month. What's the update?
@stefanwolf8558
@stefanwolf8558 3 месяца назад
I just recently got into trail running and this shuffle is the best way to go!
@johngangemi6243
@johngangemi6243 Месяц назад
Tarahumara runners are known for this technique. Saw them doing this in 1980’s. Particularly efficient and energy saving on steeper ground
@CaptainReilly99
@CaptainReilly99 7 месяцев назад
Much like a wolf, they have a short loping stride and can go forever, over broken terrain.
@wildhuntconditioning
@wildhuntconditioning 7 месяцев назад
🐺
@chadsilva6942
@chadsilva6942 6 месяцев назад
I just want to point out that while I understand what you meant, a ‘lope’ is a long, bounding stride and cannot be ‘short’ by definition.
@TX-OaksRnr
@TX-OaksRnr 17 дней назад
To figure out the technique just take your shoes off and “shuffle” on smooth concrete. You’ll naturally find the swing and landing that protects and feels the best. Go very very painfully slow and you’ll feel it. Been running this way for over 18 years now and at 57 and over 25k miles I have no joint pain. Slow and easy. I haven’t won any Ultras but I’ve finished them and felt great afterwards.
@hendsch1
@hendsch1 3 месяца назад
Nice tips! I did the exact same thing today. Saw it in a BBC Documentary about running. As hunter/gatherer back in the days, we only injured the animals and then ran after them in a light pace till the poor animal dropped dead in the sun. Thats why we lost our body hair they say.
@JohnDhar
@JohnDhar 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for the video. I believe it comes naturally if one trains on uneven ground or on hills or mountains. Where I grew up every one run this way. At school, at age of 11, we used on a weekly basis to jog 4km into the forest on bottom of mountains. Keeping the long steps for the final sprint where it was flat
@CoolplayCoolplay
@CoolplayCoolplay Месяц назад
Great info. I'll have to test the young shuffle.
@jonnyh7936
@jonnyh7936 6 месяцев назад
Ive suffered from medial knee pain for years due to snowboard and ski injuries and havent been able to run for longer than I can remember. I wonder if I can utilize this method to get back into running ? and perhaps eventually not limping ??
@MadJugglerTV
@MadJugglerTV 6 месяцев назад
In the Marine Corps we called it the Recon Shuffle. I ran the 2013 Eugene Marathon at 255 using this technique. Not fast, but great endurance
@missnurseeri
@missnurseeri Месяц назад
Ok thank you for this comment! A few years back I took up running as a novice and would run with a military vet who would run like this. I didn’t know what to call it, but he was FAST and he seemed to be barely doing much with his feet. I called it baby step running. Lol😂
@hartdav123
@hartdav123 4 месяца назад
The "forbidden technique " is jogging?
@dalriada
@dalriada 15 дней назад
Ssssshhhh!!
@machinemaker2248
@machinemaker2248 5 дней назад
No, a different stride than jogging.
@kk-xj5oz
@kk-xj5oz 6 месяцев назад
My neck was absolutely killing me after my first marathon
@climatedamage1811
@climatedamage1811 Месяц назад
The YoungShuffle sounds like the LSD of running, Long Slow Distance Running, which was so popular in the 80s and 80s. I enjoy you videos very much; thanks for tharing.
@paxtoncargill4661
@paxtoncargill4661 6 месяцев назад
I've kind of implemented a bit of this into my own running, if i just losen up, i use alot less energy and i can focus on the running more.
@SharekGadd
@SharekGadd 6 месяцев назад
That “young shuffle” sounds like every Friday morning company formation run I did in the infantry.
@tristanheck
@tristanheck 24 дня назад
Hello sir, what do you mean by syncing breathing with steps? 3 steps breathe in, 3 steps breathe out? Thank you
@papabear328
@papabear328 7 месяцев назад
awesome video - I found myself doing this intuitively (though not in great technique which is what video helps a lot with) when doing loaded tabs (a.k.a. rucks) over uneven terrain with our army reserves training... thank you for the video and cheers from 'across the pond' 🤙
@DolphinSneeze69
@DolphinSneeze69 5 месяцев назад
same i started running everyday and i found this nice pace i like doing it for hours and you will still be sore but definitely able to recover more easily
@Jay151
@Jay151 14 дней назад
Bro, you're overthinking "jogging" 😄
@RicardoDirani
@RicardoDirani 13 дней назад
I'm not in the mood to look for it in the video: Does it explain why and how the technique was forbidden?
@thefisherking78
@thefisherking78 12 дней назад
Spoiler: it wasn't 😅
@Jersey2WorldTravels
@Jersey2WorldTravels 5 месяцев назад
This looks like the Airborne Shuffle. The military has been doing this for a long time.
@Shevock
@Shevock 6 месяцев назад
Jeff Galloway recommends a type of shuffle in his marathon books.
@Mistr_Roundtree
@Mistr_Roundtree Месяц назад
33 hours of straight movement is money 😮‍💨👌🏾
@BlazedTownesFan
@BlazedTownesFan 6 месяцев назад
My brother runs like this. I remember him doing 11 miles at a time and not understanding how it was possible.
@zalman9607
@zalman9607 6 месяцев назад
Can you explain how to link the breathing to the running?
@teeboytel
@teeboytel 6 месяцев назад
@2:52 „..useful tool for rehillbillytation“ That‘s what I call irony!😹
@LaoWaiJac
@LaoWaiJac 6 месяцев назад
When I was young and in the night scene I would get pretty wasted from careless consumption. Id get so drunk I would run home, used the young shuffle to get there sometimes running miles and miles, one time down the Vegas strip.
@TerryMcMaster-jw8zr
@TerryMcMaster-jw8zr 4 месяца назад
Cliff Young did not wear his rubber boots to run that ultra marathon. He wore normal runners.
@razdyread
@razdyread 4 месяца назад
❤click bottom left with triangle play icon for full video. Love the 4 minutes video🎉
@TomisaLami
@TomisaLami 3 дня назад
Please tell me what part of the Pacific Northwest is taller than Mount Everest
@leevancleef553
@leevancleef553 5 месяцев назад
Hey i've been doing this without knowing what ot was. I run barefoot and very differently to other runners. I did a barefoot half marathon earlier this year.
@michaellane1316
@michaellane1316 4 месяца назад
About pacing & to finish a prescribed distance.
@user-ju1du2sm6b
@user-ju1du2sm6b 6 месяцев назад
Is any running technique based on doing two large jumps and then two shorter ones? I found is the best way for me to run. Is similar to what deers do. The jumpy steps get you far then you recover on the next two . Does this technique already exist?
@kof867
@kof867 6 месяцев назад
I’m not sure but I need answers, that sounds very bizarre I’m intrigued
@Nico-Diaz
@Nico-Diaz 7 месяцев назад
Is this good for hypertrofy?
@TellusJD
@TellusJD 6 месяцев назад
Still dont understand what it is you are talking about. Did you even show it in the video??
@Numberfucking1
@Numberfucking1 6 месяцев назад
My thoughts exactly.... this is the second time I've listened to this guy explaining absolutely nothing. Just waffle
@thereignofthezero225
@thereignofthezero225 14 дней назад
Bs vid
@ivartheboneless1456
@ivartheboneless1456 17 дней назад
Is it just slow pace running? Easy pace
@billyray9961
@billyray9961 6 месяцев назад
This is similar to the Ranger Run shuffle use my US Army Rangers !
@chrislisle3101
@chrislisle3101 5 дней назад
US Paratroopers have an old saying “The Airborne Shuffle is not a dance.”
@CraigDesmarais
@CraigDesmarais 7 месяцев назад
How should the tempo of our breath follow our steps? Inhale for 3 steps, exhale for 3 steps?
@umaikakudo
@umaikakudo 5 месяцев назад
Three steps is for going fast at aerobic threshold and above. Five steps is better for long endurance low aerobic zone pace. Keep in mind you want a quick turnover cadence of around 180 footfalls a minute. Short, quick, and springy is better than long, slow, and sticky strides. Always do odd numbers so the force is alternated between sides. Always breathe through your nose for aerobic activity. It preconditions the air so there is less temperature shock to your bronchial tubes and you lose significantly less moisture reducing the amount of water intake needed in dry (hot or cold) conditions.
@SOLowBRead
@SOLowBRead 6 месяцев назад
I taught myself to sync my steps with a my breath with a song stuck in my head. Imagine a hoo hoo haw or whatever works for you with my steps with my song even with the swing of my arms. All in sync. Almost hypnotizing myself all 4 together.
@connorduke4619
@connorduke4619 29 дней назад
I believe you. The fastest I ever run was training on a beach, running in time to a blues song on repeat in my head. It felt self-hypnotising as I ran at about 80% of my maximum speed for about 20 minutes without feeling tired at all.
@TheBurninghedge
@TheBurninghedge 5 месяцев назад
America rediscovered regular running 😂
@sammysantiago5614
@sammysantiago5614 4 месяца назад
Is this a heel to toe method?? Anyone please I’m new to running and I’m old 😢
@kathiray1623
@kathiray1623 3 месяца назад
It seems like during the running sequences, a John Mayer song should be in the background :o)
@gedr1524
@gedr1524 7 месяцев назад
Wouldn't you not want to do the Young Shuffle (heel to toe) with minimalist/barefoot shoes (which tend toward a mid/forefoot strike)? Also, do you have a cadence target? Thanks for your content, big fan! Trying to square this technique while also trying to get my body used to running in minimal shoes/working on foot strike and cadence.
@manwong6542
@manwong6542 7 месяцев назад
I have the same question. Should I switch back to shoes with insole?
@noname-zi9xm
@noname-zi9xm 7 месяцев назад
​@@lifterinagardendude. Thats actually terrible for your foot health.
@johnghent5946
@johnghent5946 7 месяцев назад
I am similar, been running in barefoot shoes for nearly 2 years now and trying to find info on the shuffle technique has been tricky but this video has been ace
@umaikakudo
@umaikakudo 5 месяцев назад
For barefoot all you have to do is figure out how to run on pavement with naked feet as fast as you are able to with shoes. Do it wrong and you'll get blisters in less than a mile. Do it right and you'll be able to run efficienctly for any ultramarathon distance. The other drill that teaches you to use your glutes and not your quads is stair climbs of 5 stories or more. Once you figure out how to climb stairs without getting any fatigue or burn in your quads because you are using your glutes you'll be able to translate that to running, particularly trail running up steep, long climbs.
@bretzky9261
@bretzky9261 2 месяца назад
I use this for Ironman's and actually go way faster than my old bounding technique due to a much higher cadence.
@kungfujoe2136
@kungfujoe2136 5 месяцев назад
looks like what i do i was trying to get a pace to run zone 1 (hr)
@hidoom4239
@hidoom4239 5 месяцев назад
Why do you call it forbidden?
@yourajoke4140
@yourajoke4140 Месяц назад
So we click on the video lol
@carl8568
@carl8568 Месяц назад
Marketing.
@SeanSpecker
@SeanSpecker 7 месяцев назад
You tube sucks and wouldn't let me post my comment. Bet they don't know how to run either. I'm gonna work on this. thanks much man.
@martinbaypedersen503
@martinbaypedersen503 28 дней назад
Why or where is it forbidden?
@lumpo9681
@lumpo9681 7 месяцев назад
So you run and carry your supplies! How do you sweat and not catch a chill overnight in the sleep part?
@Noah-pc6wq
@Noah-pc6wq 7 месяцев назад
He didn't sleep ☠️
@wildhuntconditioning
@wildhuntconditioning 7 месяцев назад
There’s a full documentary about it on my channel, as well as a review of the gear I used. Go check them out.
@1972Konaboy
@1972Konaboy 7 месяцев назад
I’ve done some fastpacking in my life. So hard but such a nice way to experience trails. Glad I found this channel!!!!
@donrich3927
@donrich3927 5 месяцев назад
He looks like the Africans that be chasing down gazelles. They get tired.
@tertiusgous8348
@tertiusgous8348 15 дней назад
Some of the tribes here in South Africa used this type of running to basically run gazelles to death.
@davecronce3127
@davecronce3127 15 дней назад
Slow Jog. Got it!
@bakedbean52
@bakedbean52 7 месяцев назад
Can someone explain the rolling steps a bit more
@callummcskeane6980
@callummcskeane6980 7 месяцев назад
Following
@wildhuntconditioning
@wildhuntconditioning 7 месяцев назад
Letting the foot “roll through” a strike refers to a smooth heel to toe transition. When you hit it right, it’ll give you the feeling that you are “rolling” through each step. Play with it and it’ll come.
@bakedbean52
@bakedbean52 7 месяцев назад
@@wildhuntconditioningthanks! 💪
@xxxxxx3901
@xxxxxx3901 3 дня назад
It's the mf Airborne shuffle.
@illlogick7151
@illlogick7151 12 дней назад
Run barefoot on the beach with weights in both hands .. game changer
@frankfakazatalk307
@frankfakazatalk307 5 месяцев назад
Basically run slow??
@smucka70
@smucka70 Месяц назад
Dude says he’s a hybrid athlete but I find it hard to believe he’s not a cop.
@MrKrekkie
@MrKrekkie 18 дней назад
It's the heartbrake ridge shuffle.
@Knuckledragnation
@Knuckledragnation 6 месяцев назад
Is this the same shuttle Forrest Gump used?
@Monkey-ut6ns
@Monkey-ut6ns 5 месяцев назад
Forest gump shuffle u mean… 😂😂😂
@silfidecontemporanea
@silfidecontemporanea 6 месяцев назад
He just described running slow…
@Rogers_Ranger
@Rogers_Ranger 13 дней назад
It's called an Airborne Shuffle . Literally every Infantryman ever has done this in long road marches
@DaleFlint
@DaleFlint 5 месяцев назад
Airborne shuffle 😂
@drewbarron7913
@drewbarron7913 6 месяцев назад
Just like Forrest Gump
@1dazza75
@1dazza75 4 месяца назад
I agree with what you say about being an efficient way to move over long distance. But you probably need to get your facts correct when you say Cliffy young won the Sydney to Melbourne ultra in gum boots when he clearly did not. He wore running trainers in the race but wore gum boots running around his fields at work.
@steveo1413
@steveo1413 6 месяцев назад
This is literally the airborne shuffle. How cool.
@erkkisuvila1480
@erkkisuvila1480 7 месяцев назад
Ok. So why it's "forbidden"?
@ryanstrickland5764
@ryanstrickland5764 6 месяцев назад
Just the name is forbidden because it was already called jogging...lol!
@DeNilsPipe
@DeNilsPipe 8 дней назад
I'm not quite sure if this is an ironic joke or not...😂
@JimLarranaga5k
@JimLarranaga5k Месяц назад
Prediction: Nike will invent an expensive pair of work boots
@ovenkloven
@ovenkloven 5 месяцев назад
Young shuffle? I discovered this technic on my own long time ago. Forbidden? Hahahaha
@oldmate86
@oldmate86 4 месяца назад
Why not demonstrate it?
@sandorhuber252
@sandorhuber252 9 дней назад
Why is this forbidden?
@onajiteughojor9037
@onajiteughojor9037 5 месяцев назад
33 hours nonstop?
@maratonlegendelenemirei3352
@maratonlegendelenemirei3352 20 дней назад
In short run as if you're desperate to take a dump but the toilet is far away.
@iamthelizardking6239
@iamthelizardking6239 5 месяцев назад
33 hours straight??? This dude makes David goggins look like a candy a*s.
@anubisreaper7913
@anubisreaper7913 5 месяцев назад
Are you sure you are not just a superhuman ?
@Backwater-wanderer
@Backwater-wanderer 4 месяца назад
Sooooo jogging
@bdjcasar8357
@bdjcasar8357 6 месяцев назад
Haven't soldiers been using this technique for centuries?
@davidwagner9644
@davidwagner9644 6 месяцев назад
It is called the Airborne Shuffle in the Army Airborne..
@Snaerffer
@Snaerffer 10 дней назад
Sorry, but what’s forbidden about it? Or is the title just clickbait?
@sklobi
@sklobi 5 месяцев назад
“Young shuffle”?? Round here we call that Jogging. Yes you can jog a lot longer than you can run.
@misterindependent7994
@misterindependent7994 5 месяцев назад
So jogging
@noosphericaltarzan
@noosphericaltarzan 18 дней назад
I think Steven Seagal pioneered this technique in the early 1990s.
@carrjeep7538
@carrjeep7538 22 дня назад
Took him almost 5 minutes to say absolutely nothing.
@thatguy2201
@thatguy2201 17 дней назад
I can run all day in soft sand barefoot doing the natural shuffle that comes with no shoes. Put shoes on me and it kills all my running endurance.
@yaphetyokley9843
@yaphetyokley9843 6 месяцев назад
You didn’t show much of the technique. Some of us are more visual , rather than auditory
@harleyguy9956
@harleyguy9956 3 месяца назад
Cliff Young didn't win a 544 mile race wearing rubber boots
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