Another very informative video. These are scary and these kids so young, what a shame they see this as a life. Keep up the great work and thank you for slowing down the text, I read every word .
Hey bro, I watched all your videos.. Thank you for putting everything out.. Gang culture is everywhere. I’m in the USA, it’s just crazy!! MUCH RESPECTS TO THE ONES WE LOST!!
One of the big differences, was Drumoyne,GreenField and elderpark primaries merging together. Now the kids from different areas know each other from the age of 5, instead of 12 when they would go to govan high.
The real fight is with the colonisers don't mix and don't let your family or friends mix with them either. Make your VOTE COUNT and get them out of Paisley Rd ,Govan and surrounding areas. Never trust them ,take what you can never give them an inch. Stay with your own folks.
From complete opposite side of Glasgow it's sort of the same situation but when I went to Rangers games had no idea it was all broken apart schemes round about ibrox area
I remember the passing of Jaggy. Very sad. May he RIP along with my good mate Les Berry who also died under similar circumstances in 2012. May they both RIP, along with every young man taken by mindless gang violence ❤
Pretty sure somebody that was close pals or possibly related (could be wrong there) to the poor lads killer got stabbed to death in their motor during lockdown. Canny mind a name but 🤔 RIP kriss that was just horrible that
Absolutely brilliant video 💪 really interesting 👌 same stuff happened in Kilmarnock when I was young scary stuff man and sad for al involved but that’s the way it is and don’t honestly think it will ever change especially in Glasgow and the west of Scotland
@@chanter-vu2ex the murder of a boy called Richard O’Donnell in 1998 was gang related newfarm and Alton hill boys I know because i used to be in a gang from newfarm and are you trying to tell me you have never heard of gang violence in Kilmarnock 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤣🤣🤣
Sad watching this mate I grew up in the winey at the end of the 60s and 70s I new these kids parents and grandparents and aunties and uncles Jaggys da and Reece’s uncle were pals of mine They were blue noses and I was a Tim It didn’t stop of from being pals There has always been murders in Govan and violence I remember two murders in particular in the 70s Two guys from the winey tam McDermott and Bilko Then a good pal of mine John fletcher ( fle) and legge Good guys But herion killed more good Govan boys than violence Not everyone was into violence Most of us were into making a few quid and going up the town to get your hole You should do a video on the amount of good Govan boys that were killed by heroin
You should do a video on the Calton tongs or at least one of the East end gangs you covered the south and the North time to start on the east great channel loving it have you ever heard of Christopher Hutchison think he's from ibrox?? Killed 3 men including his cousin now there's a story worth telling. Santoi ya bass :-)
Fuckin shithot vids Great stuff. I'm from a long long place away down south but love to have knowledge of this gangland shit Keep them coming bro Subscribed coz of content
I lived in Linthouse and all my family lived in Ibrox. My dad would rarely drive me to see my cousins so I had to run the gauntlet to get there. Chased off the YGT only to get chased again off the winey. Some buzz 😂
The gangs of the 2000s were never a match for the 90s gangs.. it was much worse in the 90s...you can tell just from the photos of the 2000s gangs that they had become much softer...they would of been eaten alive if they were around the decade before
Haveing been here through both decades, I would say from the 90s to about 2007, it was pretty much the same. Different areas were worse at different times, but overall it was pretty much just as violent. Its just in the 90s the whole drug war thing was going off as well.
The 80's under Thatcher were hard times for sure. Mass job-losses, the Smack epidemic that led to a lot of working class areas being abandoned to deteriorate into the slums that they were originally built to replace, turned much of Glasgow into a dystopia. The 90's were pretty much a continuation of the 80's. While mass gang fights involving hunners eh boys probably weren't as common as they were in the 60's & 70's the streets were no less dangerous. I can still mind the days leading up to the polis 'Operation Blade' and the council's nightclub 'curfew' of the early 90's and stories of multiple murders and serious assaults were no big shock. While the 'murder capital' years of the 2000's were obv. brutal for many, I still think the city centre was probably still safer then, than it was in 1991-2 though this city is what it is, and prone to violent crimewaves from time to time.
Is this mark copper an actual grass or is he a civvy who went to the police because his friend was stabbed? Major difference bro regular people can't be called grasses for going to the police. Apart from that another cracking video 👏
@@johnstone4642 that mentality is fucking stupid though mate. If they're taking matters into their own hands then they aren't civvys mate. There's a difference of someone like me who grew up a scheme boy that won't phone the polis I'll deal wae it myself but am not active anymore. There's a difference of a straight shooter who comes from a scheme and uses the police for what they're meant for. Street rules are bullshit bro. They pass peados depending on who they are. People who claim to be so anti grass are normally a complete grass themselves in every other walk of life. You canny hawd regular working people who don't come Fae our background even though they've grew up in a scheme tae the same standards as somecunt that wis in that life and turned it around.
@@johngarvey5370 bro u aint street u wouldnt get it. Where a come fae if u give a statement incriminating any one u are a grass simple. Having your mentality would get u squashed in glasgow.
@@johnstone4642 thats no the way it works.. "straightpegs" (those not involved in a life of crime) should not be brought into criminal activity it is generally unwritten that they should not know any better!! If yer stupid enough to get seen by passers by or other non combatants (ie stabbing folk in broad day light) then you deserve to be stuck in.. If you ARE involved in a life of crime and giving info/going to court.. well.. thats another story. Thats the true meaning of "A GRASS"!!! Too many half mongols running around getting the nick for stupid shit and the first thing they do is blame everyone else for being caught bar themselves. so everyones stuck them in and are grasses. its the same inside tae. Any hardened criminal i know thats been jailed on a non combatant/ non players evidence takes it on the chin as part of being involved in crime.
Mental wint it .am glad my son's aren't growing up the way we did in the 90s 00s. Was fuckin amazing at the time the culture etc and the fighting. But too many of our pals died through it..
Lacoste trackies are still the boyo imo. You'll never get a more comfortable trackie, unless it's pissing it down. Haven't seen a mera peak in years but this comment makes me wanty go buy one haha
@@INTJ82 Good catch though too bad it didn't show the whole interview. Chrissy Hutcheson is one pure psycho and it wouldn't surprise me if he was to kill again.
@@madp9379 The West End arguably includes the upper-class havens of Maryhill, Anderston, Whiteinch, Yoker etc. Whit gave ye the idea that am fae the West End?
Yes gangs were everywere back in my youth now they look like wee bubble jacket wearing wankers and you dont see any gang violence now glad it has gottten better was crazy back in early 2000s
Just so yees aww know a wiz in way jaggys cousin when this aww happened and guess wit he still talks to we reece like the rest of the scheme we man had no choice heard from jaggys familys own mouth should have been self defence all eh wiy know the facts people wake up could happen to any one of us ur attacked u have to stand up for urself no just let a bully grass kill u for fuck all #freeupwereecesweeney
@@truebro77A lot of people who grew up in our areas type the way we talk, we aren't ashamed of it atall. I have typed this all out properly for your wee brain to understand.
Bang on mate people who don't know shit should keeo their big mouths shut and stop trying create a social media following off posting stories they know nothing of about young men losing their lives #youtubedigger
A lived there in the 80s as a teenager ,The KIMBO KILL ,well what can a say ?you were getting you're balls kicked,and that was if you were lucky,,then the Crossy Possy exploded,and ,well ,them and chuckie,were like the same gang a lot of the time ,but cross kinda knocked them of the number one spot ,Terrifying place to live if you are involved in gang warfare ,which growing up in Glasgow you probably will be ,a lot of youth wasted ,so much good there and had some of the best days in Govan,but like l said we need to catch teenagers and give them positive things to work at daily,national service ,or football am surprised no one from Given plays for Rangers or Celtic ,Kenny Dalglish lived in the Ibrox flats And Alex Ferguson near the fire station in Given Cross ,what's happened???so much potential in Govan,best wishes for the future and hopefully all the ha g stuff disappears
Scheme mate, do you know these people? Or is this common knowledge in Glasgow, can someone explain the gangs to me, I live in Aberdeen yet ive read and know more about organised crime and crip gangs than my own countries, I know there is induction process in crips and mafia, crips is a killing of a pedestrian, or being jumped in and beaten for the amount of seconds your age is, mafia is usually killing an enemy or witness, how are these Scottish gangs ran? is it around money making like Liverpool gangs? PLEASE EXPLAIN SOMEONE
If you want to know about organised crime in Glasgow, look up the names: Daniels, Lyons, Paul Ferris, Arthur Thomson, Tam McGraw etc. as the better known faces. Most of the street gangs are mainly (not all) younger. They often go by names like 'Young Team', 'Mad Skwad', 'Derry', 'Fleeto', 'Toi', 'Tongs' etc. Their rivalries are based mostly on local territories, and in some cases the football/religious divide thrown into the mix. The street gangs are more like fitba hooligan firms in that they fight for a buzz. The others are about money making. A lot of the Liverpool gangland shit was between bouncers over control of the Ecky sales at the dancing. A lot of Glesga neds seem to think of the Crips & Bloods as shitebags who do drive-by shootings. If they went into the Pen they would soon change their minds!! 😂
@@l3awjawz Your right there, I know a high ranking crip called - OG Cutes type him in, Im potentially helping him write a book, I thought this would just be over fighting for the fun of it, I meant the likes of Darren Gee who sold drugs on the grisedale estate didn't know about the bouncers, Read Ferris book was interesting, watched a lot of Blink's stuff to, Im up in Aberdeen we don't have fighting like that, there is different groups of guys from different areas of the city, all they care about up here is clothes motorbikes cars and making money even from 14 onwards
@josh duffy Yeah man, the Grizey is near Anfield and Everton fitba grounds and was a no-go when the Gee brothers ran it back in the day. The bouncer feuds were mainly in the 1980's & 90's, Well known names of those times included Stephen French, Curtis Warren, and one of his main men, John Phillips as well as the Ungi, Bennett & Fitzgibbon families. The closest Liverpool has had to Young Teams like Glasgow was the Croxteth v Norris Green rivalries that ended with an innocent 11yo boy killed by a stray bullet. The film 'Shooters' played by real life street players and doormen was supposedly loosely based on a murder. Not sure which one but. I'd never heard of OG Cutes or the Magnificent Seven Crips. I see a mention of 69th & Denker where Monsta Kody Scott (who passed away last summer) and his Eight Tray Gangsta Crips were from and their rivalry with the Rollin 60's Neighbourhood Crips has been one of the most intense in all of LA. Whenever I think of street culture in Aberdeen I think of the Aberdeen Soccer Casuals who seemed to have the run of the town centre during the 80's-90's. Anyone with an English accent or a West of Scotland accent was among their favourite targets. Aberdeen is not a place we really hear about much for it's street culture though I gather that a lot of their drugs come from Liverpool gangs. I don't really know anything about the schemes in Aberdeen though parts of Dundee, Edinburgh and a number of other East Coast towns tried to copy the Glasgow gang culture though as most folk in Glesga don't even take most of Lanarkshire or Ayrshire that seriously, they probably think even less of the others haha!
It's a mixture. Theres no jumping in, you get into your first scrap with whoever it is at the time. And as a hip hop fan, and teenager through the 90s here, there were some comparisons with the way LA gangs operated, however there's no say young whiney division in easterhouse, or the pollock bushwackers in milton. Every area had their gangs, each little stretch was different, you had people who knew people in different areas and so on. No one wore any colours or any defining fashion for their area. In the 90s, sprey ways, berghaus, trackies tucked in the socks was like a ned "fashion". Theres no blood contract or till the death of being in a gang. You stay in the gang as long as you want or are. But gangs would always have people leave and join. Folk start to have families, jobs, some die, some turn junkball, and some go down the career criminal path. But it's not like the crips or bloods. There are exceptions, and loads of families are built with generations of the family in the same gang. But you get to about 18, 19 and the gang stuff starts diverging, like I said, it was gangs of crazy neds out fighting and plugin each other, youngsters in yoker chasing each other over back garden fences with guns. Take a sat night, say 2000, draw a circle from the port to the south of Glasgow (including Johnstone, paisley, renfrew) etc all the way to hamilton, up to the north of Glasgow. And in that one night you had battles going on everywhere. Outside of schools or the local parks could be turned into battlegrounds. In my view, the whole crime gang, getting cash thing was imported from america, especially from New York. A lot of the black gangs in london adopted that style of "hustle". Up here there was no such influence, just the gangs that had been about you from when you were a boy. Theres no real outside influence as to the way the gangs were here, which is probably why you are so confused. Today, especially down south, it's all imitation we see on the net. Theres no real difference in gangs wherever you go in England. It was what it was, and is what it is up here. I just see a lot of that trap influence bollocks from down south here (which is insulting to be fair). It isn't needed. Our gang history isn't built on that imitation shite, and we don't have that same gang problem anymore, and to try and act like we do through imitation because something is cool is stupid and could take us leaps back from where we are now. Let them get on with their music driven gang bollocks down south. This place has seen enough real shit that no one in their right mind wants to encourage a return to it, especially for looking hard on the net in a music video.
There is no posher gang than the Young Toby Jug from Lenzie, tbf they used to have it out with the Gringo from Barmulloch and the Springburn peg though
Interestingly I have noticed that a lot of Celtic fans stayed by Ibrox, though Glasgow has never been segregated like Belfast. I got told the Albion Way pub in the Winey was a Celtic shop and even on matchday Rangers supporters gave it a wide berth. I had actually thought the Winey had been pulled down in the early 2000's, so kindae surprising that there is still a Winey gang in the area as I always assumed the area around the Ibrox subway to be Ibrox. I thought Brighton St. and all round there was Ibrox and that the Winey ended at about the flats at Iona Court. I could well be wrong.
@Dorian Phoenix No idea what kind of treatment you are referring to though I gather that the rest of Govan were always hostile towards who they seen as outsiders to their area. When there's no match on I have noticed probably as many folk in Celtic colours round Ibrox as Rangers so not too sure if Ibrox is predominately one or a mix of both.
@Dorian Phoenix I doubt there ever really were truly Catholic or Protestant areas. While Brigton was most known for the 'Billy Boys', their arch enemies the 'Norman Conks' were allegedly Catholic but still based in Brigton which would dispel the myth that no Catholics could stay there. There have been known to be Protestants cutting aboot Royston, albeit a minority. As for Larkhall, I'm sure that Paul McStay and his family had some ties there. Thankfully the West of Scotland has never been like Northern Ireland and hopefully never will be either.
@Dorian Phoenix i take it you are replying to me stupid so let me educate you in the winey there was Orton st, Kella st, Lettoch st, Rafford st, Dava st and broomloan rd was part of winey from start of Summertown rd meets broomloan rd to the albion way pub and i stay in govan stayed here all my life born 74 left winey in 93 when most of kella st was already knocked down all houses were empty from early 95 when the last few people moved out and whole scheme was knocked down 😂
This all seems so crazy. Most of these lads are just kids and the gangs have no purpose except to fight. Gangs that I've had contact with in the past (but not active with) dealt in drugs, security, car theft, prostitution and smuggling of arms amongst other things. They were run like a business to make a profit with a division that did the fighting but these lads have no purpose except to try and look tough, drink and go to prison. Sad and such a waste.
I taught Dale, Davie & Lee, all 3 were good pupils, glad to read that Davie's turned his life around. 👏 Hopefully so did Dale, 🤞 unfortunately Lee's not learned from his many lessons. A pity & such a waste 🙁
@@JamesDonachie-ej9bqOnly hard with a weapon, i seen him nearly greetin after getting a few jabs off a boy called Brandon and Lee wis gien it aw please im sorry 😂
Cry me a river. I lived on Summertown road for nearly 10 years, back in the mid 90's early 2000's and the vast majority of folk I knew or met in the pubs were lovely people. I'd see young guys like this every day in Shuggies or the Sportsman or the shop at Iona Court and I never had issues when there was 1 or 2 of them. One night on Copland road I bumped into a load of them and it was "you threatened ma wee brother" and "where you goin ya dafty?" all the usual crap. I just rubbered them and kept walking but it taught me how easy it could be to end up in the wrong place at the wrong time. The guys in these "young teams" are not hardmen with a code of honour, they're wee boys looking for easy targets.
@@caseysweeney335 ah so what actually happened if u don’t mind me asking I’m curious, none of ma business but you say that the information in the video is false
