The best thing about Senor Pink's backstory is that Oda never even planned to include it. He gives backstories to all of his characters as a general rule of writing whether they get featured or not. In Senor Pink's case, Oda's editor was so moved that he insisted they include it. So what we have are Oda's offcuts outclassing the writing of major franchise protagonists.
It’s a great practice for writers: even if the audience never sees your characters exact “why”, it exists, and it motivates them in your writing. The audience feels it even if they never see it. Probably a huge reason people find Oda’s characters so compelling. Great to see you here @GrandLineReview! 😊🏴☠️
The only reason I saw this video is becuz of Liam watching it then RU-vid recommended it to me. Liam u have power to boost other channel video. Remember that
Sometimes? Way too often in the last few chapters 😭 SPOILERS last chapter . . . . That "Kuma will always be on your side" especially got me, because my father, who died last year, was the same... he wasn't even a good person or anything, but when it came to my brother or me, something switched in him and he would have done everything for us. Fitting for what they talked in this video, about connecting with characters you understand.
You invoke Señor Pink on a thumbnail, you will summon an entire fleet of One Piece fans. Incredible discussion on how one person could write compelling characters and how it emotionally attach us to their stories. You could build an entire library of discussions on just one show. That's One Piece for you.
I love how over the years One Piece has reached a growing level of mainstream that has opened up people to become more comfortable with bring up aspects of what makes One Piece great as a story (themes, characters, etc) into different conversations.
The more one piece we get put into the world the better. Please look into Brooks story next. 50 years alone after witnessing your best friends die one by one without being able to do anything always stood out to me. To find humor in that like brook does has always inspired me
oh man... Brook's story, in my opinion, the most sad out of them all... Abandoning the Laboon. Losing the captain. Losing the fight and watching your entire crew die from poison while recording one last song. Losing your body and reviving as a skeleton. Losing your shadow so you no longer can go back to Laboon. Being scared to death, but still going back to Thriller bark trying to get your shadow back. But what is the most heartbreaking is... Brook cannot age. Which means somewhere in the future. He will play "Bink's Sake" on the graves of his crewmembers once again..
True. Clinging for his life only for Laboon for 50 years is just so hard to take. He had to be funny to keep his conscience so he never cry or be sad. But when Luffy offered a spot in his crew, he melted. Boy just thinking about Brook, Senor Pink and Kuma makes me a bitch.
Of all the thumbnails to catch my attention, to have one of the worst main characters in a show standing next to one of the best *Side* characters in One Piece is something i never knew i needed. Makes me love One Piece even... *sniffle* GOD DAMMIT, YOU'RE MAKIN ME CRY AGAIN OVER ONE PIECE.
One Piece has always been best at showing people at their worst and most vulnerable state and People around them,their friends fighting with them against their worst fears and overcoming them. Hence I also find One Piece therapeutic and Motivational many a times!
What I love about OP is that, Oda isn't afraid to show the ugly side of their characters, the broken sides, the non attractive sides, it adds to their character and it shows that not every character has to be the perfect hot bad guy with a broken backstory that didn't really change much about them except making them depressed
Senior Pink's back story hit me so hard, my wife and I have suffered multiple miscarriage's, as well as a still birth. The fact Oda was able to write such a hard hitting backstory for such a minor character is so crazy to me, that's why he's the best.
Miscarriages are such a common and difficult situation that we rarely talk about 😔 I know so many people personally who have experienced it but it seems like it can be really isolating if we never speak about it with others. And that kind of experience can then really shape how you feel watching something like Sr Pink’s backstory, no question!
Oda does have a gift for writting very human and down to earth characters and moments. Something ironically sweet and endearing about how nearing his last moments, all Whitebeard wanted was to know if his kids thought he was a good father. The World's Strongest Man who is seemingly a stoic wall of muscle and might is humanized throught the entire ark as a loving devoted father.
When going through Dressrosa I was not expecting an amazingly tragic backstory for Senior Pink. But the mutual respect between him and Franky was very manly. Great video.
This is a really fantastic conversation about the ideas of how fictional characters are written and why we feel so emotionally attached to them. I really love the conversation especially about One Piece and how Oda had humanised his characters. He gave them flaws and strengths and weaknesses. But also gave them moments of vulnerabilities that are relatable. It’s probably the reason why One Piece had become my favourite series, it has the capability to make me cry and relate to these characters on a human level. Someone like Sanji for example is one of the strongest along side Zoro and Luffy. He is the typical simp and hot headed and foul mouthed character but then we reach Whole Cake and suddenly we are witnessing this strong guy break down and cry in front of Luffy asking for his help much like how Nami or Robin did. Oda writes his characters with backstories that makes the reader understand the reason behind their actions and ideals.
I wasn't expecting to cry, but you had to go and bring up peak after peak One Piece. Which show you that the highest peaks in fiction are not the cool fight scenes, but rather the deep emotional moments. Thanks for that little insight on one of my favourite moments in fiction. Maybe you guys can touch on White Beard some time. Any ways Frame of Mind To the Moon!!!
The thing is, too, that we also love stoic characters.. but only because we know what's going on UNDERNEATH the stoicism. A lot of people mocked old-school Kratos as "he just yells a lot and is angry and kills people." But those of us who were there from the start saw from the very beginning of the first game a vulnerable man who was just hurting and desperate to make the pain go away. As a result, we were all-in for when his internal torment became externalized in his rampage where he started to hurt everyone around him, even those who didn't deserve it. We didn't always approve, but we were there for the ride because we had seen that vulnerable, fragile aspect of his character and what had been done to wrong him so much that he would react that way. It's the same with characters like Guts in Berserk. On the surface he's just really angry and slaughters monsters, but if you actually read the series and realize "oh geez, this poor bastard", and you see how much vulnerability he has that is being kept buried beneath a stoic and angry front - and then the moments that cut right through that front and bring the man back to his knees all over again - then you can't help but love the man even more. In other words, it's fine to have a character who is, on the surface (and almost always in relation to the perspective of the characters within that world) a stoic and hardened individual who never shows weakness. But if you do that then you need to let us, the readers, know what's going on underneath all of that in some capacity.
Well said! It really seems like the degree to which you can connect the audience to the character’s pain, the more we’ll be able to connect with them in spite of their stoic demeanour. Just like all traits, stoic isn’t good or bad but a tool that can be used well or poorly 👍
I'm not even sure exactly how this ended up suggested in my algorithm, but I watched the whole thing and it is fantastic! Really great content that deserves a lot of views! Earned a sub here.
Welcome here! 🎉 And thank you so much for the feedback, we’re only a week and a half into posting content so it’s great to hear what we’re doing connects with you! We’ve got a lot more coming 😊
This scratches a one piece itch, as someone in social work I’ve wanted more analysis of the characters in depth from that angle. Love it guys, great overall analysis
When I saw a 1h vid about Señor Pink in my feed I didn't expect Cinema Therapy 2 - emotional boogaloo, but I'm all here for it. Especially if it features One Piece and character writing advice. Consider me subbed.
you can in-fact talk about one piece psycho analysis and get more than 100 ep out of it, i mean you can talk how Dadan response after Ace lost or maybe Vivi taking responsibility of her privilege its so much.
@FrameOfMindBros And coming from supporting or minor characters no less- or even the villians in this case. Oda does such a lovely job of making quirky characters with very real nuances to them. Or a character you think is a one off, can then have a major comeback like Bon Clay. Such an amazing writer, I hope when the crew finds the One Piece Oda continues his creative works to the best of his abilities.
For me it was Bon Clay. He was this goofy guy who wore a swan tutu and ballerina slipper. He turned out to be one of the GOATs of One Piece. A true man and friend till the end.
Holy crap, this is by far the best discussion about emotionally dissecting One Piece. You gave me a whole new perspective on viewing Oda's intent when he wrote the Nami "save me" scene and Nico Robin's "I want to live" scene. Well done
I think that’s the highest praise you could give us, thank you so much! ❤ that’s exactly what we want to do with these videos: dive in deep to find the amazing things in stories hidden below the surface 😊
(LONG essay ahead) I'm glad this came into my feed. I genuinely believe that whether you're writing a character who is the nastiest villain or the sweetest marshmellow ever- the best way to make them interesting is to show how they deal (or dealt) with struggle or being challenged. These challenges could be environmental or personal or both. It can be overtly fantastical or very mundane. Whatever the scale of the struggle, the most interesting thing will be how it affects the character(s) and their progress. To add to this- the reward(s) they get for overcoming said challenge should feel earned. You want them to feel relatable? Don't make the solution to their problem feel so "easy" or, worse, undeserved. For example- if your character doesn't have friends for whatever reason, don't just suddenly give them friends and consider that development. Consider the reasons why they're friendless and what it would take for someone like that to become friends with the rest of your cast. If someone, say, has no friends because they're incredibly rude then make that a struggle they need to work with. And this can tie into the rest of the cast- how would your characters handle someone so rude and would they even want be friends? So many potential dimensions! It's these kinds of struggles that I feel is missing from my least favorite trope in Anime- the one-dimensional "nice person." I'm talking the anime character (usually female) who is kind to everyone, loved by everyone, and they will constantly recieve praise for how wonderful they are. These characters have flaws, but they're flaws that attract more of that "I need to take care of them/support them" reaction from the audience (being awkward/shy or quirky.) They can't have flaws that will make them too unappealing. The flaws rarely hurt the character, and when they do it's not enough to feel like a struggle. Heck, sometimes they're always somehow the most tolerant person in the story, even to characters who may not deserve it. Why? Because they're NICE. If there's really a problem, they just need a little time to think or be sad about it, before they overcome the flaw and go back to being "nice." This goes back to my point about easy solutions. This particular trope irritates me because rarely do writers show just how HARD it is to be kind. No one is that levels of "nice" without the struggles that come with it. It goes back to your point about how a one-dimensional character can feel off because it's like they're wearing a mask of an overt personality trope. One of the few times I've seen this trope done right is Tohru Honda from Fruits Basket. We see where her kindness comes from and we see said kindness be challenged, even by characters who do like her. Best of all, she does falter and she does have moments where she's scared or resentful. And there's no easy solution to what she goes through. Watching someone so kind struggle like this? It makes you sympathize with her and want to see her get that happy ending. That's a good "nice" character. Anyway- apologize for the mini-essay. I'm just a big fan of character writing and have very strong opiniona on the topic. Thanks for reading if you did!
Im not sure if you guys have gotten to Whole Cake but this is why Katakuri became a fan favorite Yea he has a cool design but it all a facade it was his flaws and motivations that he became a favorite Hope the channel goes well the conversation was interesting! I see One Piece and other anime mentioned in a podcast I click
Feels like that’s Ora’s secret recipe for getting us to connect with his characters, especially the villains like Katakuri. Thank you! We’ll keep that in mind, both of us being One Piece fans 😂
@FrameOfMindBros I wouldn't even call him a villain. He's a decent man underneath but being raised by an abusive mother and having to take on the role of perfect son and brother really affected him. For the short time we had with him, he made such an impact.
Omg when you were explaining the Robin situation I was crying with you. And I'm just so dumb I didn't realize the connection to depression and sui***de and how important it is to help people who give the first step and actually want to be helped. I relate to this so much as I've been suffering from a best friend struggling with these thoughts. I admit when I read OP very very young I didn't understand all the emotional undertones, and really struggle with emotional aspects in general but seeing these videos and analysis about OP really help me get in touch with that part of life and myself. Thank you very much for this video. It was really entertaining but most of all, very enlightening.
I absolutely love to see other people explain the facets of One Piece that hit, motivate and grasp me with such vivid explanations almost word for word. Not only that, just talking about certain things like Robin's "I want to live" gets you teary eyed because regardless of how wacky One Piece is, it's one of the most believable and grounded series while balancing that wackiness in a way most pieces of media seemingly can't do to such a high degree and on such a consistent basis. That's why it's my number One Piece of media! You guys unzipped me. Great analyzations!
LISTEN UP HOLLYWOOD! You guys have nailed it to a tee. What a masterful dissection of character analysis which emphasizes the emotional resonance crucial for compelling storytelling. What’s more, you underscored the significance of acknowledging our own vulnerabilities and attentively embracing their insights. Bravo!
Crying while talking about amazing story beats? Crying while talking about One Piece? Yeah, I can relate. I subscribed. This podcast is mix of some of my favourite things!
Holy underrated cow. Is this channel new? Cause otherwise you guys are criminally underrated. I was shocked enough by the low viewcount but 56 subscribers is crazy. This video and channel will 1 million% blow up, and you guys completely deserve it.
That is so encouraging to hear, thank you!! 🙏 our channel isn’t even two weeks old yet, so you found us at the very beginning. We’re both really excited to see what this becomes! Thanks for joining us on the ride 😊
I think you guys managed to put in words what many of us think / feel regarding certain pieces of entertainment, movies, anime, manga etc. I personally cried a few times reading the one piece manga, death of Mary go, Robin moment, Nami, Jimbei story to Nami etc. It's liberating seeing someone enjoy what you enjoy and being touched by the same medium / emotions
@@FrameOfMindBros 53:19 Well there is what you said here. Kinda the reason why sTrOnG fEmAlE cHaRaCtEr does not work. (Never gonna write like that again btw, it's a pain in the ass) It has ALLWAYS been the weaknesses and overcoming them that has made great characters. Regardless of sex, race, religion etc...
@@FrameOfMindBros Sadly female characters are never allowed to show weakness. (Which is why I loved you thumbnail with Senior Pink and Galadriel) Just as an example: Luffy (who is my all time favorite protag in anything that I have witnessed) does not matter if he was suddenly a girl. She (in this context) would still be as great a character.
A few things that I would like to add about Señor Pink moments. The setup when we first met him, we got curious about him. Because women flocked to him, despite his he looks and how he cold he was to them. It made you wonder Why people still fawn over this guy. And I think it's important to point out that Oda sensei completed Señor Pink's very impactful backstory with just 5 manga pages. That makes so many people around r the world cried for him.
I'm a simple guy, I see Senor Pink, I click. But my goodness, I did not expect the emotional rollercoaster you guys took me on. I was crying right along with you guys. You've made me think about my own life and my own strugglea in a light I never thought of before. Thank you guys for this amazing video. Consider me subscribed. Keep up the amazing work.
I love how deep One piece can be which gave it more reason why it deserved the love that it garnered over the years, I also love the fact you mentioned that you can do so much for someone to help them but the person needed to want to be helped before it could go anywhere.
I know someone that hates flawed characters and only likes Mary Sues/Gary Stu's, actively, doesn't like dumb characters, characters that struggle with anything from within them, dislikes drama, and essentially only wants characters that are as close to perfection to be in shows, with any conflict coming from the outside, if the person happens to like a flawed character, only focuses on the stuff the person likes and conveniently ignores any flaw, and has no interest towards finding if there's anything behind the mask of flawed characters. It is, incredibly hard to interact with this person.
this was a really insightful and interesting video. I wonder why you have so less subs. Also love your voice and the way you ask the questions, polite, sensible, assertive at the same time.
Ah what an amazing complement! Thank you so much! 🙏 The reason for the small sub count is we’ve only been publishing videos for 2 weeks, thanks for finding us early 🥳
I feel deeply grateful for being able to hear such a discussion. Absolutely incredible work. I genuinely hope this channel grows beyond your expectations.
Had this randomly shown in my feed, and since I love One Piece I had to click on it. This podcast is amazing, through the talk about the hero's journey I got motivated to try something new, and I plan on practicing that new element in my life regularly so thank you! Also I had to cry with you when it came to Nami and Robin, Oda really knows how to write characters that feel as if they were alive. Anyways, I just wanted to say thank you for this incredible podcast and hope that you all will be able to connect to far more people, you deserve it!
That’s awesome! Glad we could help encourage you in making a change it sounds like you’re excited about! And thank you so much 😊 we’re pumped to think more people might get some value out of us talking about our favourite stories and characters!
This was awesome! So glad I got this video recommended by the algorithm! I'm a huge one piece fan so you had me right away with that, but as I listened, I really began to enjoy the bouncing of ideas from you two! What a great chat this was!
Senor Pink's voice actor is Kazuhiro Yamaji (山路和弘), who also voiced the antagonist Gild Tesoro in the movie One Piece Film: Gold. He, too, is a fascinating character with a tragic backstory, and I highly recommend watching it.
I'm on my first watch through of One Piece and am in Dressrosa right now! I saw Senor Pink and cheered! I'm also a lifelong die-hard Tolkien fan (LotR is my favorite franchise) and I _loathe_ Rings of Power-especially Galadriel. Seeing these two on a thumbnail together was emotional whiplash for me. Can't wait to listen to the discussion!
1:04:50 You missed an opportunity here. Ending that montage with the Chopper crying scene/meme or even Franky. Which would both fit in with the montage but end it on a comical note.
Very good and informative video, I came for Señor Pink, not expecting a full-on conversation of how deeply meaningful and impactful these stories are for our minds. I am glad I stayed for the whole conversation and cried when you guys spoke about Robin’s moment, you earned yourself a subscriber!
Oda easily can be one of the best storyteller alive and hey i also come to tears everytime when watching One Piece and even when you mentioned Robin call to mugiwaras... man that is so powerful.
Hey, Curtis and Jordan! I found this randomly on my feed and GLAD I CLICKED! Mr. Pink in the thumbnail was a genius design decision. All my favorite topics (psychology, movies, anime, inner work) with hosts who are incredibly intelligent, eloquent, and emotionally mature all on one place?! Subscribed! When Curtis talked about his wish for some sort of regimented workout for psychological introspection that also encourages real-life application, I think many men's support groups can be considered to be like "workout gyms". I was a part of the Mankind Project (MKP) for many years, and their weekly I-Group meetings were like having a workout group getting together. How these groups run their meetings can vary, but there's a pretty standard protocol for each type of "workout" that's done. For example, if a person is triggered with another person in the group, there's a process called "clearings" that's facilitated by the leader that night. One of the main parts of the meeting is for someone to do "carpet work" where they do a deep dive into something they need to work on, and the rest of the group helps facilitate the process. It's incredibly powerful, and it's kind of like having the whole gym help out this one guy try to achieve his goal of benching 500 lbs. They also take the concept of safe containers very seriously, so I appreciated Curtis's explanation of how important SAFE containers are. I had taken many of these processes that are practiced in I-Groups to heart and applied them into my regular life, and this completely changed me in many ways. It truly saved my life, but MKP and I-Groups are not perfect either. That's a whole other bag of worms, but I had to at least get the word out there. I'm amped for more content from you guys, and cheers for greater success for your channel!
BTW, your section where you guys breakdown the metaphors of Robin and Nami's big moments was so amazing. I was choked up along with Jordan remembering those episodes! My mirror neurons tell me that I've truly found more people of my tribe! XD
This is such a high quality video. You deserve more subs and views! And you're also talking about One piece? Awesome! Thanks for uploading 58:00 i never noticed this physical obsticle as a metapher for a mental/emotional blockage between Robin and the Strawhats. Thanks for pointing it out!
This debate hit me deep with the psycho-analysis and relevance of a characters journey to deal with their traumas and emotional distress, especially when you talked about Nami and Robin. It's especially common with those kind of strong characters even in real world known to appear independent and capable to solve any problem by themselves, that struggle the most to drop their mask and openly ask for assistance when they are in a desperate situation. It's such an important message you've highlighted. No matter how strong or capable you are, everyone bears a weakness or deeply rooted issue that they cannot resolve and deal with themselves and it's completely fine to admit it to yourself and ask for help. I believe many naturally connect and relate to such characters already but rarely use those portrayed moments of weakness as inspiration to become weak and vulnerable themselves at times and ask for help when truly needed, because that first step is so hard to do. Great content from both of you and an amazing message you send for those who may struggle believing that they need to be a "flawless good character" as Galadriel when in truth embracing and acknowledging your helplessness will truly bring your biggest strength out.
Ok, I wrote a whole comment (mostly ranting about how Galadriel SUCKS in RoP, and how it hurts me because I *love* everything Middle-Earth), I had a power loss and it disappeared. I won't be able to recreate it, so I'll leave the rant aside, and just say that you gained a new subscriber with this, and you can credit Señor Pink, because seeing in the thumbnail a comparison between one of the unlikely best side characters I've ever read and the impossibly worst main character I've ever seen tickled my morbid curiosity. But so that you don't think I'm underselling yourself, I came for the best hardboiled man, but I'm subbing because I love this: Two professionals of things I really do care about (storytelling and getting to know myself better) nerding about stories I love (or hate, fuck Amazon destroying Tolkien), and tracing parallels between them and the process and symbolism behind those scenes that are etched into my brain. Not only do I get to re-experience them, I'm also provided with little details and appreciations that help me widen my own perspective, and that's fucking cool. So thank you for this, and since you mentioned him, let's quote Arnold, "I'll be back!"
Thank you so much! That’s exactly the part of this that we love about doing this; digging deeper into the details to build a new appreciation for stories we love, or discovering important parts of stories we didn’t like as much. We’ll see you for the next one! 🎉
Ok, I need to do a little of the Galadriel rant, because just thinking about it makes me angry. Let's be generous and assumed the writers of the show have watched Peter Jackson's movies (because I know they haven't read anything Tolkien wrote). Let me start by saying that Kate Blanchett's portrayal of Galadriel was top notch! But there are two interactions of what was basically a glorified cameo of her in the span of the three movies: 1. Boromir saying her gaze made him feel uncomfortable, as if she was looking into his soul (and Sean Bean's portrayal of Boromir was also phenomenal). 2. Her reaction when Frodo offers her the ring. With those two scenes, we get to know A LOT about her. She is powerful, at a glance even more powerful than what we've seen so far of Gandalf. If you cross her, you are not leaving unscathed, no matter who you are. She is wise, call it magic or intuition, she sees things others don't, she reads you and if she so desires, she can make you know she is reading you (as nobody else felt that discomfort, only Boromir). And it makes sense, not only is she naturally extremely powerful, she also has one of the three rings, and she's lived hundreds of lifetimes, potentially experiencing everything there is to experience. But she is weak, she is vulnerable. As soon as Frodo offered her the One Ring, she almost slipped into a spiral temptation, even if she herself had foreseen it happening. She is flawed, dangerous against the enemy, yes, but also towards the friend if she slips once. So she tested herself, and seeing what could eventually happen, she immediately decided to leave for the Grey Havens, to remove that potential threat from the equation. She is strong. That's more character depth and development in what? 1/10 the screentime Morfydd Clark had? BTW, I'm not blaming (solely) the actress here, most of the blame falls onto the writers and director. FFS, was it so hard to depict her that way? And since I mentioned Boromir, let me dive a bit into one of my favourite characters. He is a regular human, not even a Númenórean. With his 40 years, less half the age of Aragorn, but probably more than half of his potential lifespan, he shows many flaws: Proud and insecure (which could just as easily be phrased as "Proud because of being insecure"), almost narcissistic when it comes to his own capabilities and prowess, envious, hot-headed. But when he falls it's to the same weakness that would've taken Galadriel. Basically a goddess, at least from a mere mortal's perspective, she would've fallen, possibly even faster had she spent so much time with Frodo as Boromir did, to the same flaw that took a normal guy. And that's all I need from her. That one flaw is more than enough to make her an amazing character, as her lifespan and obvious experience (even if you've only seen her in the movies, you know she has that experience already) are the perfect soup for her to have overcome everything else. We don't need her to be as flawed as Boromir, we just need her to be believable. And no, being perfect in every possible way from the get go, fuck, even becoming perfect at the end, is not believable. And yes, Nami and Robin are PERFECT comparisons. If you've read/watched One Piece and you have two braincells left, you don't doubt for a second they are incredible strong people. And they are FLAWED! They are as damaged as you might want (in fact, there's a conversation between Robin and Brook in Wano that I won't spoil here, because it's fairly recent (chapter 1020/1021) that illustrates in potentially the saddest way possible how damaged and scarred Robin (and Brook) is). "Oh, but they are not the main character," I was told once. The main character, Luffy, not only is flawed, but he wears those flaws in his sleeve, almost as a badge of honour, and he has no issues whatsoever literally listing his MANY shortcomings. And that only makes him a better character, nuanced and layered. He cries and breaks, he feels desperation and anger, and he yells that in every direction. And we can't have enough of it.
Thanks so much @juansek208 ! 🙏 I couldn't agree more, Oda somehow manages a way to touch so many people in ways they never see coming! 😭 Glad Robin's moment resonated with you as much as it did with us 🫡
Thanks so much! So stoked you liked it! We’re currently investigating some other platforms for release 😁 as soon as things are finalized we will make sure to announce it to the community here too 🫡
i just commented on another video 'senor pink's flashback is the only moment in the show that has managed to make me tear up in the moment so far' and then i got recommended this, thank you unknowable machine overlords
The crazy think about Senor Pink is that from the start, he's SO ridiculous. We're laughing at his shamelessness. Then his backstory is revealed, and even the background characters are straight up laughing at him. When I saw that, I was reminded about how I, too, was in their shoes, laughing at him, not knowing the truth. I felt like shit, b/c I knew he did out of love.
One piece is sooo great. When you think of most anime, people think of fight scenes... but with One Piece, the best most memorable moments are many times non-fight scenes, because Oda is an awesome storyteller and builds great characters. Current manga... Kuma's story. Enough said. But, there are so many characters that are so great. 59:15 and as a 36 yr old man... i also cried for Robin's scene
re: frustration on therapy. I used to have sessions with the psychiatrist who diagnosed me. Apart from meds prescription he wasn't helping with ANYTHING. would just ask how i'm feeling. no feedback. no introspection, no advice how to deal with what i'm facing. So happy when I found my current therapist.
I put off watching this video because I saw Senor Pink in the thumbnail and I was only in the middle of the Dressrosa arc. After finishing it now I can completely grasp the conversation and the backstory was incredible. Very glad I took the time to finish it
This video is probably the most valuable one I found this year. Instant subscription. I wonder, have you read any of Brandon Sanderson's books? Mainly Stormlight Archive. Kaladin is probably a character I connected the most with
That is an unbelievable kind and encouraging comment, thank you so much! ❤ it’s so good to hear we’re providing something people find valuable. And yes actually! I (Curtis) am just starting the first Stormlight Archive book 👍 curious to see how Kaladin’s story plays out!
Oda has said that he tries not to use internal monologue for One Piece, especially Luffy It's interesting to me that Luffy is a very nuanced character with such emotional depth, yet we have no direct text about how he thinks Its all "show, dont tell"
I don't think I could agree with you more 😄 I never heard him say that specifically but I'm not surprised and that makes complete sense. Show don't tell seems like such a simple concept yet it seems to be used so little throughout media...
I always mirroed with Elliot from Mr. Robot since the first episode. Skilled at programming, black clothes, didn't like people or social activities, flawed and depressed. When Elliot had the (spoilers) forced therapy session in S04E07, and he discovered/remembered that he was sexually abused by his father when he was a child, I instantly had the same ephiphany that I was also abused by my father in the exact same way. That hitted me like a fucking truck and I couldn't do anything for about 2 weeks, then it took another year for me to fully understand, accept, and re-learn to live with this "new" truth that was uncovered. Mirroring with fictional characters is that powerful, it changed my life and I'm profoundly grateful for Sam Esmail to bring Mr. Robot to life.
The Enies Lobby scene with Robin makes it more impactful when you consider who ultimately fires the first shot to declare war on the government. While Luffy is the one who gave the order, the first shot was done by Ussop. A known coward yet albeit logical person with no powers. Just his gadgets and toys essentially. A weak person like him is willing to fight the world for his friends. If it was Luffy, it'd be expected. He's effectively a super hero in terms of strength, he can do it. A more human character like Ussop is far more effective in comparison.
"My greatest treasure is not a hat, it's a person. And it's YOU." OH MY GOD. I was just casually listening to this, but gd that just slapped me upside my lungs. I literally gasped. I mean I knew this, we all knew this, but sometimes someone just has to come along and say it like it is. I've always loved One Piece. I've been reading it since 2002-2003. Anytime anyone has asked, I've said its my favorite. Like, it's Lord of the Rings and One Piece. Top Tier world-building, long form journeys with a focus on friendship and internal emotional development that results in external life transformations. Not one character in One Piece is filler, not one is wasted. Every single person adds something to the story, even the background characters. Masterclass in showing not telling. Masterclass in pacing, balance, and power-scaling.
One piece is literally my favourite show ever. I feel like Oda saved my life and inspired me to get back into writing. Robin hit so hard to home; seeing a character who literally looks like me under the layers of white grease paint and black eyeliner, saying she wants to live, when I myself struggle with depression felt like the punch in the gut I needed honestly. I realised I don’t want to die. I want to stop living the purgatory I am in; I do want to live. I love it so fucking much.
55:50 btw, this discussion is really similar to the one they had on TheDrawkShow, a RU-vid channel where the main channel... guy... is having his mom read and react to One Piece. She's a literature teacher, so she's REALLY insightful with her analysis, and I really think you would enjoy watching the videos. Maybe a collab could even happen?
Yayy love a mention of the TheDrawkShow. Oh man, the new wave of people/channels talking about one piece are taking it to the next level, deeper talks, different insights. Love the talk even before you talked about one piece~ subscribed~
The talk about Luffy listening to his friends is really good. He respects his friends wishes and dreams. On the other side there's Naruto who doesn't respect or listen to his friend's wish. He didn't really understand what happened to Sasuke and he rubs his own emotions to others. That's why their "friendship" doesn't feel real and genuine. I love Naruto as a character but the reason I love Luffy more than him is just this sole reason. I just realized it.
God, just found your video because of it randomly recommended by youtube because of One Piece and your talk about psychology, emotion and human intellect are very interesting especially when you point out of Nami story that Oda write it so that Nami become vulnerable not the other way around make me thing the story even more compelling, thank you
This was such a good episode. The fact you guys are giving Oda Sensei his props is amazing. This was so entertaining and after how passionately Jordan responded to One Piece. I think I have a crush on him 🤣🤣
Just saw this Subscribed now, of course! Incredible discussion. I love that you both did not hide your emotions!! About what you both talked about at the end, literal conversation with people that get it is INSANELY POIGNANT. It teaches us so much. And it allows us to really synthesize things deeper. So great. Much love for you both!!
My most emotional plot in One Piece is in later part of series, where the truth of SMILE was told. Yasuie, the smiling faces of Ebisu's people, SAD, everything comes connect and makes me feel numb.
Staying with the topic of one piece and good characters, i think you've sums up perfectly how Eichiro Oda was able to make his fans, readers, and anime watchers connect and feel emotions for a ship. Going Merry tried to fix it self, it asked for help, and sailed to save it's crew for the final time. At the end it expresses it's regret and even gratitude. It also helps that the crew that we've connected, believes in the ship as much as they would believe their crewmates.
3:52 my boyfriend and I went to see the same counsellor. I always believed that my willingness and motivation to change is what made my sessions successful. I wanted to be better, different, and that's why it worked for me and why my boyfriend just slowly stopped talking to her.
Absolutely! If there isn’t an openness to growth, a counsellor can’t to much. Or at least things become very slow and challenging. Really important prerequisite.
@@FrameOfMindBrosI sent my counsellor a msg after watching your video. I told her how much I appreciated what she had done for me and how much she had helped me. My life did a complete 180 thanks to her ❤
Love some content that meshes expertise with appreciation of media it is remarkable how much a good author can make people care. As is it remarkable how a corporation can spawn apathy within the middle of one of the most connected with worlds of fiction. Good stuff
As you talked about Galadriel's stoicism, one character popped into my mind. Maud Pie. She's stoic in a world where everyone around her is animated and active, so the juxtaposition is played for comedy. Maud _feels_ emotions, she just isn't good at communicating them, and despite her expression rarely changing she's just as cartoonishly over-the-top as the others, just in a different way.
Great example that seems to highlight how pretty much any character trait can often work when writers are intentional about the function it serves in the story!
