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@granvilledennis4338
@granvilledennis4338 7 месяцев назад
"Nah bro them YE drums hit different" 🔥🔥
@alexsosick863
@alexsosick863 7 месяцев назад
Niggas gotta stop acting like rakim a multimillionaire. We need help to get where we gotta go!!
@NewAgenda
@NewAgenda 7 месяцев назад
🔥🔥🔥
@MR.FREEDMAN
@MR.FREEDMAN 7 месяцев назад
FACTS 😂
@TmaineyOnDaBeatz
@TmaineyOnDaBeatz 7 месяцев назад
Them not even his drums.. he said on Last Call his drums arent that good.. he usually brings the sample and has someone tweak the drums… Timbo on Stronger, Metro on Father Stretch My Hands
@89whodatcha
@89whodatcha 7 месяцев назад
"I fought a civil war, now I'm fighting a global war"
@atarilogic1
@atarilogic1 7 месяцев назад
Came to quote exactly this… that was a super bar!
@davemore0
@davemore0 7 месяцев назад
Yeah he was spitting
@SLIMM1209
@SLIMM1209 7 месяцев назад
Exactly. Cyhi sees the industry for what it is so he’s speaking for the perspective of knowing the truth and using it to his advantage to maintain his success and coin without getting lost in it. It’s black and white for him. That’s why Mecca having a difficult time understanding the “Big Picture.” It’s always been about the Money, Power, and Respect.
@LiLSCRIBE
@LiLSCRIBE 7 месяцев назад
Great Bar but shameful that he's using it to try to justify using ghostwriters. Sorry folks, but i am with Mecca here (although i highly respect cyhi). Rappers should write their own shit, goddamit! Its the only genre where this is important and sorry if i hurt someone's feelings by saying this, but i think less of Drake if i know that he's using ghostwriters. Or to put it differently: If I wouöd believe that Benzino wrote Rap Elvis I would think higher of him after having heard that song. (No, I'm not an Em hater, but i HAVE to admit that Rap Elvis is well written🤷‍♂️)
@earlmendoza4421
@earlmendoza4421 7 месяцев назад
Mecc the only one that be there trying to tell actual rappers how rappers feel about rap.😂😂😂😂
@fortunendlovu9105
@fortunendlovu9105 7 месяцев назад
Facts 🤦🏾‍♂️
@dennisthemenace855
@dennisthemenace855 7 месяцев назад
Shit dont make NO sense ..
@michaelaustin5644
@michaelaustin5644 7 месяцев назад
Bruh think he God to rap
@WHG369
@WHG369 7 месяцев назад
None of yall are hip hop. Yall are raised off the industry. What he's saying is you yelling let's represent being African american culture. But let's let white people decide what clothed we wear as the culture. They make our dashikis. Mecc raps. Not well. But he raps. His pen is good his flow wasnt
@BoxOffice22
@BoxOffice22 7 месяцев назад
Naw he’s just been in the game 25+ years as a hip hop journalist! That means a lot especially when speaking to real LYRICISTS
@jaydenfleming9227
@jaydenfleming9227 7 месяцев назад
Cyhi speaking to pushing rap forward.. making the best product possible
@mikeybee456
@mikeybee456 7 месяцев назад
Exactly.. Mecc sounds like he doesn’t want rap to evolve.
@lindseyadams5339
@lindseyadams5339 7 месяцев назад
Call up Big K.R.I.T. for a sit down!
@83_Tone
@83_Tone 7 месяцев назад
Man that’s the one I’ve been waiting for. Super underrated.
@Jordan9618
@Jordan9618 7 месяцев назад
😮‍💨 that’d be crazy
@desmondfuselier3839
@desmondfuselier3839 7 месяцев назад
That's some real shit 💯
@LRrealest
@LRrealest 7 месяцев назад
Cyhi probably one of the best rappers you've never heard about. Check out his music, you won't be disappointed.
@aintyoucj_yup2846
@aintyoucj_yup2846 7 месяцев назад
I swear bruh different
@chancewilson9174
@chancewilson9174 7 месяцев назад
Unfortunately they don't have his full discography on Spotify.
@sayitaintjah
@sayitaintjah 7 месяцев назад
“No dope on Sunday” no skips GREAT GREAT ALBUM
@EastHumbled
@EastHumbled 7 месяцев назад
💯
@calebdarling9118
@calebdarling9118 7 месяцев назад
​@@sayitaintjah album of the year that year easily
@5MofMS
@5MofMS 7 месяцев назад
Them Ye drums hit different 💯
@prof3ssor178
@prof3ssor178 7 месяцев назад
He made his statement just with that one line! 🔥🔥
@chezuanvevo
@chezuanvevo 7 месяцев назад
@@prof3ssor178na … because marketing and money put him there.
@TrayMackfromTSP
@TrayMackfromTSP 7 месяцев назад
That was a good back and forth about hip hop.
@brainbanks8724
@brainbanks8724 7 месяцев назад
Refreshing for my soul
@kyleetaylor837
@kyleetaylor837 7 месяцев назад
Interviews been crazy keep going.....can we get curren$y interview
@alex9xela
@alex9xela 7 месяцев назад
Cyhi is crystal clear on his vision, no wonder he is on top of it. Little emotion, all thought!
@theo12488
@theo12488 7 месяцев назад
No more intro songs please just get to the interview 🙏
@kingchino4990
@kingchino4990 7 месяцев назад
Mecc acting like he got wild records and shit 😂😂 fall back son lol
@kprettythejudy
@kprettythejudy 7 месяцев назад
Cyhi lowkey somehow dropped a sixteen in this interview. Bro talks in rap
@soulaschoolofhealingarts
@soulaschoolofhealingarts 7 месяцев назад
Mecc got cooked on this. Cy is right. Hip Hop needs to focus on making great music / and that shit takes a village. Nothing wrong with collaborating. Best rapper and great songs don’t always mean the same thing.
@MizIzLivin
@MizIzLivin 7 месяцев назад
When doesn’t he?
@kbey4243
@kbey4243 7 месяцев назад
Son bugging he put math in the same category as j cole that crazy
@UnderCapAOS
@UnderCapAOS 7 месяцев назад
I skip that rap intro everytime
@jeremiahpeterson6817
@jeremiahpeterson6817 7 месяцев назад
Thought I was the only one who noticed that fuckery
@kbey4243
@kbey4243 7 месяцев назад
@@UnderCapAOS me to
@Skywalker721
@Skywalker721 7 месяцев назад
You can’t tell another man what great lyricism is to him. 🥴🤦🏽‍♂️
@dealz5197
@dealz5197 7 месяцев назад
​@@Skywalker721 STFU! Stevie Wonder could see you a 🤡
@leroygreen6310
@leroygreen6310 7 месяцев назад
We go in the studio by ourselves to "keep it real" as artists but the people we up against bring in alot of the most talented artists and writers in the world to do music but whatever. Cyhi was right when we do our lyrical thing thats just fight a "civil war" but thats not gonna work to fight a "global war" artistically speaking because the majority of the world don't care how nice our double entendres are.
@jman1562001
@jman1562001 7 месяцев назад
Yep songwriting a different beast. Jay z most acclaimed songs were not always the most lyrical or the joints the rap world messed with. Same with Snoop. It's part of the reason why jay z is also more acclaimed then say a common, mos def type artist. You peep how common career elevated when Ye gave him the sauce.
@leroygreen6310
@leroygreen6310 7 месяцев назад
@@jman1562001 Common can rap by himself but he has writers for hooks. That's ghostwriting too. He has reference tracks so even if he changes all the lyrics the reference still had the cadences. One artist by himself verse the world is fine but artists that approach music with a team are naturally gonna do more.
@jman1562001
@jman1562001 7 месяцев назад
@@leroygreen6310 naw hooks is different. If having a hook 🪝 is ghostwriting then the whole industry be like that. To me having assistance with a whole verse is the no no. Music is collaborative so people share bars, hooks, and concepts. Seen niggas take lines, rearrange whole verses, spit in different cadence, etc. It's the verses or 16s that is more problematic. If a nicca wrote the whole 16 or all of them 16s then you went in there and spit it, that's the egregious thing.
@leroygreen6310
@leroygreen6310 7 месяцев назад
@@jman1562001 The whole industry is like that. The artists that have careers that work by themselves is prolly less then 1%.
@leroygreen6310
@leroygreen6310 7 месяцев назад
@@jman1562001 Hey I'm just saying. Folks wanna write all by themselves that's cool but your competitions not by themselves.
@EverybodyHatesChrisNow
@EverybodyHatesChrisNow 7 месяцев назад
I wonder why we don’t trip off of “sampling” but co-writing lyrics is frowned upon???
@marrigtherebel3133
@marrigtherebel3133 7 месяцев назад
Cause hip hop was created from sampling 🤦🏽‍♂️.
@EverybodyHatesChrisNow
@EverybodyHatesChrisNow 7 месяцев назад
@@marrigtherebel3133 Exactly, Do you see the hypocrisy ?
@michaelaustin5644
@michaelaustin5644 7 месяцев назад
Mecca kills the vibe.. I like the angle but I don’t like the vibe it brings
@Kingtut111
@Kingtut111 7 месяцев назад
It’s his arrogance and stubbornness
@joshuakithyoma9575
@joshuakithyoma9575 7 месяцев назад
😂 he always does the same thing over and over , 1 vs 60 is unfair no matter how talented you are , and all the best rappers got help from Pac , Biggie , Jay Z , Nas and ghost face Killah
@Skywalker721
@Skywalker721 7 месяцев назад
It makes for great content & conversation though, so I think he’s needed. 😂
@joedon-hb4nl
@joedon-hb4nl 7 месяцев назад
Is that the guy with the dreads
@paulssebanakitta860
@paulssebanakitta860 7 месяцев назад
Cyhi was on point, Mecca kept arguing just to win but he refused to really listen
@MetaMan09
@MetaMan09 7 месяцев назад
He never wants to listen 😂😂😂
@thesauce669
@thesauce669 7 месяцев назад
Thank you-----you can not beat a machine---Cyhi is speaking facts
@simanphenix5436
@simanphenix5436 7 месяцев назад
Cyhi knows something about your favorite rappers that he’s holding on too..
@DonTako47
@DonTako47 7 месяцев назад
He’s got a point, at some point you have to fight machine with machine
@pressuremademanu
@pressuremademanu 7 месяцев назад
Cyhi is right, it’s all about the battle you’re trying to fight.
@PHBlueLunchmeat
@PHBlueLunchmeat 7 месяцев назад
Cyhi talking real shiii i gave up on music when i realize its 1 vs 5 or more and ima producer i completely understand
@illbill6070
@illbill6070 7 месяцев назад
Me too once a team of writers came thru and the production and the bpm changed
@Skywalker721
@Skywalker721 7 месяцев назад
If you’re claiming outside influences are the reason you gave up, then you never truly believed in yourself to begin with. Also, people don’t achieve great success on their own. So this idea that you can conquer the world solo is asinine. You can reach your full potential if you humble yourself & start keeping it real about what’s really going on.
@joelbreezy3116
@joelbreezy3116 7 месяцев назад
And that's before you start factoring in the politics of the industry. Those 5 ppl could be way worse than u....but they got more clout so they get the look.... That's the issue You ain't never lie fam
@keenanmitchell3913
@keenanmitchell3913 7 месяцев назад
Cyhi right . The actors get credit for words they speak in movies that somebody else wrote.
@malikmahan205
@malikmahan205 7 месяцев назад
CyHi !!!! Ready for this one …. No dope on Sunday’s 😏 🔥 I stand 10 toes down 👣 shoes 👟 glued to the pavement…. Let’s go
@mackl8305
@mackl8305 7 месяцев назад
Hiphop is the only genre ppl put all these limitations and rules on the art. Let art be art. Nothing wrong with collaborating.
@dealz5197
@dealz5197 7 месяцев назад
It's people like Mecc that wanna put limitation on what rap/hip-hop should be...
@RevolutionaryRAYRAY
@RevolutionaryRAYRAY 7 месяцев назад
Blessings to all the Tribes especially the Tribe of GAD and JUDAH in the State of Georgia in North America within Israel and Within PANGAEA. Your vision on the Olympics since the Old Testament of 1996 and the Tribe of GAD what is our Native Language beyond Music and Poetry born before and after 1619-2019
@tyota3334
@tyota3334 7 месяцев назад
Cyhi so underrated
@Skywalker721
@Skywalker721 7 месяцев назад
It takes a lot for a rapper to be a top Hip Hop artists. They need a strong team overall. They need elite production & engineering with fresh ideas coming to them on a regular basis to keep up with the pace & energy at the top. A lot of them need stylists, image consultants, coaches, advisors, highly decorated management, top labels, elite videographers, elite choreographers, etc.
@moxmann
@moxmann 7 месяцев назад
I get both sides of the conversation, and it's an interesting conversation to have. How do remain authentic in HipHop and become the most successful? We treat a dope rapper with mediocre production the same way treat a wack rapper.
@blezz7773
@blezz7773 7 месяцев назад
P.E.A.C.E. great show writing your own lyrics in hip hop is very important. Gat murda is another brooklyn way being produced ? Mecca i love when this topic comes up about hip hop ghostwriting it be on point math you put together a dope team word up P.E.A.C.E.
@kidsavage86
@kidsavage86 7 месяцев назад
Man i been listening to cyhi since 2013 hooked like a feen to the creativity and bars He motivates me to write
@austinaustin140
@austinaustin140 7 месяцев назад
Mecca is missing the point. Adele will have Bruno Mars, Sia, and Herself writing songs on her ONE album. And all three of them have grammies from writing songs. It's not many rappers who by the 4th-5th album people aren't tired of their message, because they've said the same thing over and over and over. That is why a team of writers is important to have when you're competing on THAT level. Otherwise, you're going to continue winning the awards that aren't televised. There are only a handful of rappers who have still been hot OUTSIDE of hip hop on a global level after their 5th album. The rest of them died in hip hop.
@seanyoung9014
@seanyoung9014 7 месяцев назад
Y'all just want hip hop to be pop music and it's not. Authenticity is the whole point not winning awards and branching out beyond hip hop.
@austinaustin140
@austinaustin140 7 месяцев назад
@@seanyoung9014 I understand what you are saying. But the ARTISTS/RAPPERS themselves want that also. If you're saying having writers means you can't be hip hop. Then that means NWA, Ghetto Boys, Snoop, and so many others AREN'T hip hop. How many times hip hop artists have boycotted award shows for NOT WINNING? Y'all are trying to tell hip hop artists how they should feel. You can't say it's not authentic when half of the music is already built off of samples. What you think is hip hop may only be unique to you.
@seanyoung9014
@seanyoung9014 7 месяцев назад
@@austinaustin140 But it's not unique to me. My definition comes directly from the people who were involved in the creation of the artform back in the 70s and early 80s. If y'all want to call rhinestones diamonds, that's fine if enough people agree with you but that doesn't make it a fact. The fact that certain people became icons in the _business_ of rap doesn't mean whatever they did should be the guideline for how it should be done in hip hop. The problem is that the majority of people refuse to differentiate between the two things. It's like calling Kung Fu karate and then being dismissive when someone says it's not the same thing.
@JewNamerica
@JewNamerica 7 месяцев назад
seanyoung and Austinaustin start yall podcast Love yall back and forth im on both yall sides..are truths to me where as i really cant deny one or the other
@austinaustin140
@austinaustin140 7 месяцев назад
@@seanyoung9014 even the pioneers of hip hop disagreed with what was hip hop. There were different sets and groups that didn’t see eye to eye with each other in the 70s. Each opinion is unique to a group of people. That’s the point I’m making. But if you say having co-writers isn’t hip hop. Then 90% of the $ that’s credited to hip hop would not be present. And then you have artists who can do hip hop & other genres as well. Just because Ceelo or Gambino can go make a rock song or pop song, it doesn’t mean their hip hop catalog is any less hip hop.
@IAmEZ513
@IAmEZ513 7 месяцев назад
Ghostwriting should only limit somebody from the greatest lyricist conversation but when it comes to going to get that xxl bag or international acclaim I ain’t mad at it
@blockbullyrecords5417
@blockbullyrecords5417 7 месяцев назад
You aint never lied 😂😂😂
@williamgrierson4133
@williamgrierson4133 7 месяцев назад
Meccs mentality on this end up having to throwing rocks at tanks. Continue to evolve and grow.
@kingamar8780
@kingamar8780 7 месяцев назад
Chy-Hi went off with this segment 👌🏽👌🏽
@IG9611
@IG9611 7 месяцев назад
One of my top 5 rappers of ALL time!....bka The Entendre KILLA! Cyhi can spit against anyone in the game and then have them leave trying to figure out the 2-3 ways you can spin what he just said. Straight genius...💯🧠💯. Kanye didn't choose him by accident...🗣.
@Slimothy_McVay
@Slimothy_McVay 7 месяцев назад
Y'all finally got my guy up there💪🏾
@GoHardOrGoHome85
@GoHardOrGoHome85 7 месяцев назад
Old school guys need to realize hiphop is not the same anymore and never will be deal with it
@budro2bgr3
@budro2bgr3 7 месяцев назад
Thinking bigger than the box. This applies to all kinds of successful business
@cameronw8930
@cameronw8930 7 месяцев назад
Cyhi building Motown. Which biggest problem was pivoting to innovate. Mecca wants dynamism he is concerned about building the greatest MC which comes by creativity alone. Motown gets you the airways, but the R&D better be serious, or you’ll miss the next 2pac like MC because your success formula too tight.
@lindodalion
@lindodalion 7 месяцев назад
Cyhi’s Right. I Don’t Know What Mecca Be Talking About 😂
@dam8856
@dam8856 7 месяцев назад
I’m from the era of writing your own shit but my peers and older need to understand that standard is not the standard anymore, when people put on music is to capture or reflect a certain emotion they feel or want to feel at the moment and if the song accomplishes that that’s all that matters, how many people it took for that song to make that happen does not matter to 90% of people, same way u not tracking back the origin of the food u ordered at a restaurant, long as it’s good and looks clean then fuck it, u not asking the waiter how many trucks and people did it take to get here to cook
@Skywalker721
@Skywalker721 7 месяцев назад
Ghostwriting has been around since the beginning of time. No era was ever pure. 😂
@Dayday_1996
@Dayday_1996 7 месяцев назад
So heres the thing, unlike other genres of music like pop or rock where people sing and have vocals as their talent or the ability to play actual instruments, rap was all about lyrics, about what YOU said, not what someone else said. Taylor swift can have multiple writers because the talent was the voice. Same thing with Mariah Carey, etc. Rappers can't sing (except phonte) so the pen game was always the talent. It what drove the art.... I can come up with better stuff than you. The spirit of competition. True no one can do it alone but theres as difference between brainstorming and bouncing ideas off one another to spark creativity vs someone just writing the material for you because you lack the writing talent.
@--REGULAR--REGULAR
@--REGULAR--REGULAR 7 месяцев назад
The difference is that Drake kept it a secret about his ghostwriters and Kanye was up front about who was writing his bars. Everyone knew Kanye had Consequence, Common, Ryhmefest, Cyhi, and others write for him. Therefore no one can use it against him or shane him about using ghostwriters. Drake on the other hand, did not want that information to come out about him having ghostwriters. So drake gets clowned on for calling himself the best and not being up front or shedding light on who writes fro him. Kanye always shouted out his ghostwriters and put them on his albums. Drake tried to play cover up and hide the fact Quentin Miller existed from the beginning. Quentin he was credited as (QM). Thats why we dont see Drake how we see nas, cube, rakim, doom, scarface etc.
@mikejwomack9597
@mikejwomack9597 7 месяцев назад
Do math look at the analytics that we skip the intro all the time?
@uzziautomatic3416
@uzziautomatic3416 7 месяцев назад
This is why there’s nothing wrong with out growing relationships. Even kings have advisors. There’s nothing under Gods green that you can do at an elite level alone.
@Undone545
@Undone545 6 месяцев назад
What cyhi was saying is the game is different at a higher level. You look at all your favourite film directors they all say they had the super 8 camera and would write, film and edit their own films. But now they are professionals they hire writers, cinematographers, editors, and crew with the result being a better product.
@aundraythomas3233
@aundraythomas3233 7 месяцев назад
dont forget cy when he spoke about him vs adele and she might have 20 writers, them 20 not nobody's either, they got accolades for writing 💯
@therealmbmse1235
@therealmbmse1235 7 месяцев назад
Who's competing wit Adele?? Thats a whole different genre of music!! A true Emcee writes they own rhymes. Plus, i can't take a man serious wearing a purse... FACTS 😂😂😂😂
@dust4602
@dust4602 7 месяцев назад
A true lyricist writes there own rhymes. Biz Markie was a MC and ain’t write a lot of that.
@therealmbmse1235
@therealmbmse1235 7 месяцев назад
Biz was a Rapper not a Emcee! And a lyricist is technical with words!! FACTS
@SDSOverfiend
@SDSOverfiend 7 месяцев назад
Cyhi keeping is 💯💯… A regular Nicca ain’t beating no gotdamn machine. John Connor needed to Manipulate a MACHINE for help to defeat a BIGGER, FASTER AND STRONGER MACHINE that in the end he still could’nt phase it in the game of attrition.
@kingsmitty2043
@kingsmitty2043 7 месяцев назад
I bet she got a better chance rapping decently, than he has of singing decently
@Skywalker721
@Skywalker721 7 месяцев назад
How would you quantify something like that?
@MrGeesco32
@MrGeesco32 7 месяцев назад
Tyler is a another great artist that’s a producer too.
@JonathanShuler
@JonathanShuler 7 месяцев назад
I'm not really sure exactly what Cyhi means but look at guys like Game. Game's street albums and tapes before G-unit were different before he got signed. Everybody knows he's a hell of a rapper but once he got to Aftermath/G-unit, he changed his flow, turned heavy on name drops and 50 had written songs for him on The Documentary. Most folks still say that's HIS masterpiece
@mikeybee456
@mikeybee456 7 месяцев назад
A know it all at best.. Cyhi made 100% absolute sense. This is the one conversation where mecc is 1000% wrong.. You’re a journalist not a rapper 🤦🏾‍♂️ dude.
@august_3rd
@august_3rd 7 месяцев назад
It's impossible to stay at the top without the help of writers when you're playing on that level. That's just the truth and when you've been inside the rooms that this man has been you learn to shut up and learn. That's why our rap musicians runs be so short and other people can have 20 -25 year runs at the top when we get 5 except the ones whose had help That's a fact
@MetaMan09
@MetaMan09 7 месяцев назад
most artist feel like Cyhi, Cyhi is completely right, at first you rap for the respect of your peers, after you rap for the respect of the world, so many of Meccas favorite artists have had ppl who wrote the full record for them, it’s literally a video of Kanye West rapping lines for Jayz to say then Jay went in the booth and rapped them verbatim, so we gotta let this whole you can’t be the GOAT if you had ghost writers, Mecca loves taking shots at Drake without sayin Drakes name cause he don’t really want that smoke and Drake don’t pay him no mind at all what so ever, it’s starting to feel click baity and clout chasing now from Mecca when he talks about it 💯💯💯
@pinball572
@pinball572 7 месяцев назад
My GOAT! Please go back and check out his catalog! Black History Project 1 and 2, Royal Flush etc. All the way up to “Put That Shit On”. ROSEWOOD
@cokewave2903
@cokewave2903 7 месяцев назад
Cyhi is ya favorite rapper favorite rapper rapper IYKYK💪🏿💪🏿✔️💯
@carlross7861
@carlross7861 7 месяцев назад
Like that bitcoin paraphernalia!
@kidsavage86
@kidsavage86 7 месяцев назад
Mecc is placed there to be objective to all but remember this is all just multiple opinions from different views so his objections kinda carry vaule to subjects
@b.s0vere1gn
@b.s0vere1gn 7 месяцев назад
Using a ghost writer is like a dummy getting credit for an A on a test that someone else took for them!.. Ghost Writers= Non Creative Integrity
@mackl8305
@mackl8305 7 месяцев назад
But could equal a hit song. And that what most people want. . Hiphop is the only genre ppl put all these limitations on the art.
@b.s0vere1gn
@b.s0vere1gn 7 месяцев назад
It's called standards, not limitations.. And it's an artform so If you don't have the talent to create your own "art" then you should find something you are creatively talented at instead of shining through someone else's light/ life.
@mackl8305
@mackl8305 7 месяцев назад
@@b.s0vere1gn so I guess michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, the Beatles, and all the iconic acts of the past aren’t real artists because they had writers, michaelangelo and Leonardo divinci had help from assistants, guess they aren’t real artists anymore either. While we are at it, a lot of top music producers other ppl in the studio helping with beats , especially when it comes to mixing and mastering a song, guess we should take dr Dre, timbaland and Kanye off the list of great producers. By your standard none of them are great artists.
@b.s0vere1gn
@b.s0vere1gn 7 месяцев назад
@@mackl8305 I think you are missing the point.. We were talking about hip hop ghost writers, not vocalist and producers.. And everyone you mentioned are artists because they are and were very musically talented as well as capable of creating their own music along with collaboratig with others.. I'm saying a lyricist who can't write their own lyrics is untalented lyrically!
@mackl8305
@mackl8305 7 месяцев назад
@@b.s0vere1gn being a rapper is still being a recording artist. Your voice is an instrument even if you aren’t singing. It’s not as simple as reading piece of paper. You give dmx and snoop the same lyrics, the vibe and delivery comes out completely different. We heard how bout Quentin miller sounded with lyrics he gave drake. If ppl want to bicker about who’s the best lyricist that’s fine too for the ppl that write their own stuff all the time. But most ppl just want to hear good music. When your in the discussion of Grammys and you’re surrounded by a bunch of l talented ppl who could help you get to the next level, why handcuff yourself to rules that were imposed when it was a small community of ppl.its like going into a prize winning fight with one hand tied behind your back.
@Deontelewis846
@Deontelewis846 7 месяцев назад
You can tell who actually reads the credits on albums. A large chunk of rap has ghost writers
@hollywudmuvies3053
@hollywudmuvies3053 7 месяцев назад
I agree with chyi on this topic. Im into lyrics with the rest of the hip hop heads but at some point, rappers need to focus on the business at hand and stop worrying about who's the nicest if it aint going to lead to no money. If adele got 17 people in the studio, why cant our young black kings and queens start having people from their neighborhoods coming together to make great music? Do i want my favorite Mcs to be killing it lyrically but himself, sure! But im not going to stop listening to their music if they got help
@RevolutionaryRAYRAY
@RevolutionaryRAYRAY 7 месяцев назад
🙋🏾💯🙏🏾 Who decided or Suggested, tune your Senses for this Holistic Therapeutic Podcast in English. Is that okay when English is your First Language when you learn from Business to Survive
@goldenthroat9370
@goldenthroat9370 7 месяцев назад
"Cyhi the God" is right like I'm a singer songwriter that writes according to genre whether it's Hip Hop, R&B, Pop, Inspirational, Country, Club and Rock. I mainly Find new artists up and coming not any major artists yet but if they knew who I was then they could market it on a bigger scale than. Little Rock. Though I rather stay low 🗝️ cause it's easier to stay trapped behind the sound waves and not focus on the money aspect. Thanks Math for having Cyhi on da Cast. "LuxySleven"
@majorant102
@majorant102 7 месяцев назад
Salute my brother 🙏🏾 💯
@Lamar114
@Lamar114 7 месяцев назад
Math Hoffa elite level pen? 🤔
@Sko448s
@Sko448s 7 месяцев назад
Lmao he work for him so he had to reach for a min
@Dayday_1996
@Dayday_1996 7 месяцев назад
😂
@ticalKoof
@ticalKoof 7 месяцев назад
Damm Dogg not the same without bigga
@MizIzLivin
@MizIzLivin 7 месяцев назад
A guy that doesn’t rap literally telling one of the top writers in hip hop about what’s to be accepted in rap 🤦🏽‍♂️…. DUB!!
@SirAlastair
@SirAlastair 7 месяцев назад
But where does the money that Meccas talking about come from? Aint it from the sales that Cyhi is trying to talk about?? 🤔
@thaendofdabenchmedia3309
@thaendofdabenchmedia3309 7 месяцев назад
Respect to ‘Mecca 💪🏾✊🏾
@skymccloud
@skymccloud 7 месяцев назад
I agree with cy hi
@deadboe7780
@deadboe7780 7 месяцев назад
Everytime I hear that intro my ear bleeds
@walterj.mccreary3rd
@walterj.mccreary3rd 7 месяцев назад
Wonder why killa mike won 3 Grammys.
@alvinkershaw3410
@alvinkershaw3410 7 месяцев назад
I can’t respect a rapper who claims to be a great and has a ghost writer
@branflakee4257
@branflakee4257 7 месяцев назад
Em is a great producer
@kutlomahole7301
@kutlomahole7301 7 месяцев назад
Papoose is one of the best lyricist to ever rap but he hasn't had a number 1 song. If he was to link up with a Quentin Miller who pap is better than to help him come up with better hooks, cadences and melodies to have a better album would I care? Absolutely NOT!
@Dayday_1996
@Dayday_1996 7 месяцев назад
🧢
@JewNamerica
@JewNamerica 7 месяцев назад
bulllshit thats all a real like Pap need real talk he is a bonafide lyricist but he need a dash of Migos and some of that Bay Area/ Detroit funk and I'm from Houston I always wanted to be an A&R but im a security guard 😢😢 but hey at least I could live through Jay Hova Soon they'll understand
@fishoutofwaterseries1424
@fishoutofwaterseries1424 7 месяцев назад
Mecca sounds crazy
@fblcv
@fblcv 7 месяцев назад
I agree with the title 😂😂
@Jackboy_dre152
@Jackboy_dre152 7 месяцев назад
Mecca Jacket 🔥🔥🔥
@lodown3511
@lodown3511 7 месяцев назад
But at wat point does it become something else and not hip hop
@aarons2632
@aarons2632 7 месяцев назад
I disagree with Mecca when he says those people observe the culture. Let’s not get it twisted. I don’t know everything obviously but I’m pretty sure there is more to hip hop than just recording music in a studio.
@realjcoop182
@realjcoop182 7 месяцев назад
Dude thinks them global superstars don't have a room full of greats to enhance the ART. The performance, the bending of the genre, it takes a team
@pressuremademanu
@pressuremademanu 7 месяцев назад
And guess what, I promise you J.Cole would say that Drake has an amazing pen.
@Prestrev1010
@Prestrev1010 7 месяцев назад
Mecc stuck in his own context, simple.
@aaronnance2331
@aaronnance2331 7 месяцев назад
By this logic....Jay Z shouldn't be mentioned as the goat because he used Biggie verses to make completel songs
@paychexx
@paychexx 7 месяцев назад
Hmmm...Cy Hi makes some good point...but this is hip hop...You will never win with that logic...If Jay and Nas use writers, they have the strongest contracts ever. Meaning, whoever helping them, will never leaked that info. If are using Cy Hi logic, for the money and grammies. Kendrick is using 3Stack and Lupe as writers, he got 17 grammys, and he making bank? Drake known for having writers, he only 5 grammys, but he got a lot of bread..Nas and Rakim are still known as the greatest MCs in the world and they don't sell like that and Nas just won his first grammy, (should have won his second, but shout out to Killer Mike). But Hip Hop aint going against Adele...Hip Hop is Hip Hop..You gonna make that paper regardless...Not sure how this logic works. I understand he is saying, but nah
@cardpuller17
@cardpuller17 7 месяцев назад
Cyhi helped someone on your list that you're talking about like a God lol. He knows that what hip hop fans think it is....isn't the case now.
@thaendofdabenchmedia3309
@thaendofdabenchmedia3309 7 месяцев назад
Mecca I’ve disagreed with you a ton of times but NOW I finally get you we are in the same tribe ✊🏾💪🏾
@thatothamae1394
@thatothamae1394 7 месяцев назад
..them ye drums tho
@StartSomething93
@StartSomething93 7 месяцев назад
0:44
@josheasy6716
@josheasy6716 6 месяцев назад
Math NOT is a good rapper or elite pen, elite nun, only elite known to fight on here ..
@bandicoot2ps1
@bandicoot2ps1 7 месяцев назад
Its nothing crazy about having ghost writers and all that, YOU just cant say that youre the best doing that. If youre in a 1 on 1 fight and your boy trips your opponent and he falls you dont get to say YOU knocked him out.
@kevtendencies4745
@kevtendencies4745 7 месяцев назад
first! let's go
@r.r4270
@r.r4270 7 месяцев назад
Mecca chill. Mecca don't understand a project. The goal and creative music.
@noahnoir
@noahnoir 7 месяцев назад
Mecca used to rap as well tho. He was signed to Qn5 i believe. Just cause he didnt have the big success dont mean he cant talk his shit. Doesnt he manage Busta now? I think he knows a thing or 2 about this culture/industry
@MarcLondonTV
@MarcLondonTV 7 месяцев назад
cyhi is right
@nickaverett9873
@nickaverett9873 7 месяцев назад
Mecca must used to rap?
@philjoneisom8884
@philjoneisom8884 7 месяцев назад
I hate to say it but it’s almost Cyhi is giving off it’s cool to sell out vibes
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