YouTube Premium Is Broken. 

Huh, that actually makes lol. (Still watching the rest of the video)

perfectly balanced 😎

Hi

@@athentas8965 Hi

Download button, algorithm's are over rated.

Spiff is just a bit Angy

The empire was built on exploiting loopholes

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I'm gonna miss you Spiffing Brit, where can I find you? I'll be in Paris under the watchtower at 3 pm every Friday. I love you.

"As a show of gratitude allow me to utterly wreck you system" - Spiff (probably)

LOL

Good job

I read this in von karma's voice lmao

RTGame single handed my stealing the sandwiches out of the animators mouths as we speak

Does RT stand for Ruiner of Tanimators

True this atracts premium subs

It worked on me lol

He got me :/

Gonna download the video too.

RU-vid vanced baby who needs premium KEKW

Same here, actually unsubscribed and now thinking of jumping back in. Hope some of it's actually going to the creators.

I was going to use the free youtube premium from discord nitro but since I had it before I couldnt :(, ended up giving to my bro

That's nice

@@trollinape2697 that’s shitty… I have T Mobile and they give out free stuff on Tuesdays they had one for a three month Apple Music subscription but since I already had Apple Music the promo was worthless

Yeah, that's the only reason I have Premium. I wouldn't get ads either way because adblock.

hi

Divide, conquer, and rule!

come on i need likes come on

so fucking accurate lmao

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The one I tried only had an add at the start 👌

I hope so. The good ones have saved me many sleepless nights.

Audiobooks for me

Possibly. But I know RU-vid sometimes auto-pauses the video and sends you a pop-up prompt asking if you're still watching whenever it gets suspicious that you're not, so if that happens it'd interfere with the revenue. I don't know what triggers it, and it could just be Chrome taddling on you when it's idle, so it might not happen on other browsers. It also happens to me more often with playlists rather than long videos.

@@michaelheliotis5279 must be chrome cause my android client will run the full video in background with the screen off.

Yeah no shit. The current most subbed Vtuber always has 300k-500k views after the stream ended then after a few hours there will be at least many people who will watch the VOD adding another 200k-400k views on the VOD. Their accumulated live viewers watch time for May, June, July is almost 5 million. There's another Vtuber from their same company having 8 million watch time on the same quarter. That's even excluding the Superchats, even if there is some cuts from their company the revenue alone will make them swimming in money goddamn.

@@FrankToasty not to mention the biggest vtuber group, Hololive, also has tons of merchandise that they sell. Be it body pillows, voice packs, figurines, etc.

@@Josef_1186 Also channel memberships.

Don't forget about the download glitch talked in this video. There's SO MUCH clips of some moments from livestreams, so I suppose people are gonna be downloading this 3 hour videos to make clipping it easier and with better quality. Meanwhile Vtubers graphs go *stonks* , cause algorithm registers downloading it as watching it again.

The download glitch refers to YT's built in download feature available to Premium users, if people make edits, they will be downloading via an external tool that probably doesn't give a damn if you have Premium or not.

Pekomoon collab, suisei singing streams, coco graduation, 3D concerts and debut streams goes brrrr

No wonder new vtubers sub count was half a few weeks ago

@@totallyahololivesimp DSP

No one normal does anyway

@@RottingFarmsTV other than vtubers theres some science channel that does live stream too but like once a week or a few in a month

Ahhh targeted ads :)

@@thespiffingbrit Dogecoin is Perfectly Balanced!

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@@thespiffingbrit Yes, perfectly balanced. I think as a way to say thanks to you hearting my comment I'll get a free trial and download your livestream a few dozen times.

Ironic

You have created the mythical "monetary recognition" that every artist and animator seeks. Congratulations. You've just made an equal playing field.

Youve heard of speed paintings, now i present, slow paintings

Why stop there make it 24 hours long and really break youtube

You would watch your audience manage to watch 100 hours worth of your videos in the span of 2 hours each... Truly perfectly balanced

@@thespiffingbrit hi

Same here. Glad to see that creators are actually benefitting off of people who buy premium rather than RU-vid just raking in ALL the cash.

That's good

I remember that too

I'm thinking about Valkyrae having 150K people watching her for like 4hs lol

This is gonna be a good watch

Why is Donald Trump pretty and I am not? But why does he only have a wife but I have TWO HANDSOME GIRLFRIENDS who I show off in my masterpiece YT videos? Do you know the answer, dear nate

@@AxxLAfriku I gotta respect the grind man, Iv seen your wild comments for like 4 years now.

RU-vid just asked me to rate this comment. I'm very satisfied to read this. Lol

Susan can't stop us all

Billion*

You're not really breaking RU-vid so much as breaking the creators making short videos, who now take home a smaller share of your monthly payments. RU-vid still gets the same cut.

Susan sucks lets make her go backrupt

I enjoy the fact that RU-vid helps him make a living, helps him recover his deleted account, and let's him out out content like this and he still puts out damaging content to the platform

This can also work for short videos too, and would be the only counter to long videos

Facts I watch more youtube than TV at this point

Same bro 👍

Yea! I dont do any vids but do music that is released on youtube. RU-vid red views are almost always 10X more worth than normal views. If everyone had Red i could live with that revenue: D

Your funding google more than anything else

@@killertigergaming6762 and you aren't? 😂 At least premium viewers help creators more than everyone else as well.

Who lets RU-vid autoplay? Get out, out!!!!

"Sleepy man's switch" app solves that for you.

Didn't know you watched spiff, so that's where you're getting all your exploits and glitches from

I will say I used to get a ton of previously watched videos recommended to me over and over until I enabled the feedback prompt (can't remember how). YT started asking if I wanted to watch a video and when I said no, it asked why. Selecting "already watched it" enough times stopped it from recommending me videos I previously watched.

And i thought i was the only one

I was thinking exactly that

"But only if you have premium I don't have any interest in peasants"

You forgot comment duuuudeeee

@@KingNachos4 in germany we call that ,,Geringverdiener,,

@@F1iqpy join the communist party! 😂🔨

This.

It just a matter of time until he figures out how to create a Tesla out of thin air.

im a premium member and i had no idea it had any kind of impact on the money these guys get rolling in i like that it does though they deserve the money

True.

We premium members are UNDER appreciated in the RU-vidr world. We get no perks if we’re not a channel member with /join. We get fucked.

The only reason I went premium was because the ad's were getting horrifically bad....way too many and very intrusive.

@@brokeandtired amen dude. I haven't seen an ad on RU-vid for years now, it's weird to not have premium at this point.... Also I started using yt Music over Spotify and love it!

Ah, a youtuber harvesting a youtuber? Could this make an infinite loop?!

Exactly. I'm happy to support creators. I don't want ads. I got YT premium immediately. And I support my favorite short-form creators via Patreon. Guilty pleasures like RTGame get my viewtime, but the guy helping me build my own scanning electron microscope? He gets my money every month whether he manages to release a video or not.

Yeah I've also had it for so long that I forget that there are supposed to be a shitload of ads on here.

if I had Premium I'd do this lovely exploit on you because you deserve the money :)

Me too, i can't live without the mobile features like background playback no ads. and so much more, i prefer it over spotify.

"Animators have just as much a chance as video essay channels" - Larry The Liar 2021

@@thespiffingbrit I am afraid that "animators" is actually replaced with "everyone else" and "video essay channels" is replaced with "The Spiffing Brit"

@@thespiffingbrit Timmy the tax collector

Just do a livestream about making the next animation 5Head

Same fall asleep watching something and magically wake up hearing spiff. Must be because I have premium lol

Gotta agree

I'm envious. I always have my videos default to Egypt documentaries from the 90s.

same.... i love Spiff's soothing voice. I turn down the volume very low and let his voice carry me away to dreamland. but then when I wake up hours later, INEVITABLY, i wake up to yet another play of the rimworld playthroughs.

He sees you when you're sleeping, he knows when you're awake...

I was thinking the same thing! Spiff is going to be battling them and all the sleep music channels if YT nerfs this

@@collyflower6623 If it means more people streaming on RU-vid than on Twitch, I'm sure they won't nerf it

Same for me. Costs 7€ for me im Europe. And it combines my old youtube playslists into the music app. Never had a need for spotify.

I dont even know about this community. How much people are watching there in average?

@@peterimu Depends. Small indie ones ranging from zero to hundreds live viewers daily (not total views, but viewers who watch the stream at the same time). Major ones (often agency backed) get thousands daily, with peak at hundreds of thousands at special live events. One of them (Pekora ch) is in this year top 5 most viewed female streamers, with Valkyrae as the only one who comes from RU-vid that is above her. However Valkyrae still mostly relies at classic youtube videos rather than live streams, so for category of RU-vid livestreamers she's the biggest female streamers right now (although take note that while top 5 of female streamers sounds impressive, the overwhelming majority of biggest streamers are still male)

@@zeroyuki92 Thanks for your detailled info dude. Really enjoyed it. Now i know something more :)

@@peterimu Welcome to the Rabbit Hole!

Also Hololive arguably breaks the superchat system through the sheer power of simping

@@railgun-2814 youtube monetization is being broken by british men and animu waifus i cant even

Ok bois lets watch all of korone's 12 hour endurance streams

@@railgun-2814 Hololivers: Please don't waste your money on us HoloShrimps: I refuse

Or if you, say, use RU-vid Vanced and enjoy the whole background playback thing without paying for Premium.

*not me having lo-fi streams on while i sleep..*

@@miken3963 Sadly, it doesn't count as premium. It's good for consumers only. It doesn't count as a premium view*

oh ya, i often use YT to fall alseep & it’ll just keep goin thru that creators other videos all night. Id set it to stop after an hour & not wake me up, but eh my headphones fall out soon as i pass out anyways, so might as well give my favs that extra watch time ❤️ Now i know its even better for them to just download the whole nights playlist, will-do

I actually switched from YT to Spotify because I tend to stick to podcasts, Spotify started having download issues (I live in a spotty signal area and don't have home internet) so I switched back. It's at least more reliable.

Btw do you also get gifts at the end of the year? I basically didn't pay for premium 2 years ago, because they send me a google home thingy, that was as expensive as the couple months of premium i took for that year. Sadly though, i thought it was a one off thing and cancelled to save money for christmas. Turned out people got stadia controllers and chromecasts too. So in the end it costs probably half of what you pay upfront

@@desotaku5202 I've never gotten anything and I've had it since it was RU-vid red other than 3 months on Spotify earlier this year.

Yes! Woke up to many times to this...

Same! ....I'm still not sure what it is or what it's about, but, Human cake is funny

Same

BRUH I FELL ASLEEP WHILE SEEING NOTIFICATIONS IN MY BED DOING NOTHING BRUHHH

Getting over that RU-vid algorithm

I just saw you on the Goldeneye video

That’s called pulling a “Spiffing Brit”

happy merchant

$20 dollar Xbox 360 hunting time. Gonna be the new Bitcoin mining project 😂

Now you're asking the big question.

Good question.

you could easily use a different device on a different account and download the videos hence tricking the system

@@telenikros But that would mean having Premium on an account that isn't the one you publish content with. It could work depending on the person.

@@muizzsiddique yes it does, but the publisher doesn't need premium on that publishing account to publish anything, so they would still only have one premium account

Basically lol

And watch a superlong VOD!

And bell. Fortunately saying all that makes your vod even loooooonger!

@@j.b.5422 and download that VOD, delete it, wait a bit and repeat, also create a bot that does those 3 steps for you, constantly, for all eternity.

Didn't he slowed down to .5 do that people have to 2x the video?

I'd rather be beaten to death by a cactus than watch anything via PewDiePie, unless it was him, being beaten to death, with a cactus.

@@Captain_Eyeball ha ha that's understandable

@@Captain_Eyeball What is with your odd hatred of Felix?

@@Captain_Eyeball Indian, I presume?

I think he meant he's not allowed to PUBLICLY discuss it.

Omg techno plan exposed

that is exactly what I was thinking the entire video

Lmao

Watch as Technoblade is forced to upload more videos now once RU-vid fixes this exploit.

I noticed as soon as he said "because no one streams on RU-vid"

are these super long livestreams?

@@nutzeeer it depends, but hololive members will usually stream between 2 and 24 hours

Spiff Vtuber model when?

Vtuber spiff lets gooo

@@emred4653 he would be the best girl there

He said that as I read that and I feel like that’s cool

@@zeropower1688 I did that too lol

Ain't gonna lie. Partially wanting to get youtube premium just so I can join in on this exploit.

Best part is you don't just have to do this to Spiff, you can do this for anyone. If you can livestream a game that's popular but doesn't have many livestreams for it you can flood the algorithm with your videos and then boost your own.

@@AmbrotosArkhon Not really. You can do this for *anyone*, but not for *everyone*. If you do this for too many people then you're just back at splitting your premium revenue among all of them, it doesn't generate more money the more you watch, it makes the split lobsided.

Except spiff is now completely demonetised due to misinformation. Don't be evil and all that.

@@pairot01 like it's basically just getting a channel membership but you also don't see adds

This is pretty cool and possibly could allow animators to be paid a nice amount without having to have a super super huge audience?

That is a great idea, IF that animator's audience is willing to watch (or download through Premium) those livestreams. But most people that will watch a 2 minute animation aren't the kind to watch that animation being created over the course of hours.

There is also the nerve-wracking job of trying to make the process seem interesting and the animation still being quality at the end. Cause the process can be really tedious...

best way is to probably livestream the animating itself

Hey wait a minute doesn't Meatcanyon do that anyway? Edit: guess he doesn't make 30 second videos too often and his style sort of hooks people in to find more... or never look at it again...

well, it's not like Spiff needs, but the editors appreciate the tea!

RU-vid premium is so underrated

Oh god, he is too powerful

Yeah i use the Reanu Keeves saga Playlist to sleep sometimes. Sometimes it's still going in the morning Perfectly balanced

And essentially advertising youtube premium lol

Agree. Spiff exposing this probably helps YT a lot more than it would do harm. The fact that creators get more revenue from Premium users must mean that a Premium user is more profitable for YT than someone only consuming ads.

That and the millionaires.

that and the fact he made a meme around giving him money, and it worked

@@ninjacowboy6655 and has the sellout timer

I had the same exact thought when I heard that part, his backlog of vods, even though he unlists them after a bit, probably give him some pretty good premium revenue in addition to the money he gets while live streaming.

@@WarlordSdocy yeah true. I almost forgot about the donations part lol. Techno gets so many donations during streams. He probably makes like at least $20 per minute from donations during his streams. Also the Dream SMP stream vods will probably be passively making a lot of premium revenue for months or even years to come.

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Hello fellow degenelate

Hololive just dominate yt live streaming lol

Oh, ooohhh wow. Everything makes sense now. Time to become an Apex predator loli and start screaming

Well...

@@neurotoxic1830 RAWR * read in Gura's voice *

the only way I can think to patch it would be to either disable downloading, not pay for downloaded videos, or shove in some drmesc tracker for play times. I don't know how premium downloads work. are they all in app or just a avi or something?

Discord was giving out 3months RU-vid premium codes out for people with Discord Nitro

@@hinro Given the Premium viewer needs to be logged in, then they could just limit the watchtime credited per account to 1x the length of the video.

Premium is great. Well worth paying for no ads if you can afford it.

They won't. They want people streaming on youtube, this helps both the creators and google

One of us

One of us

One of us

One of us

One of us

He's exploiting them

I don't know if YT is necessarily that pleased about it, considering most of these exploits otherwise fly sufficiently under the radar that they can just ignore it and not fix it. They don't care if there's an exploit, they only care if there are tons of people using and/or criticising it. The reason he's not banned (and why he got unbanned) is because he's a sufficiently large creator whose loyal following would shred RU-vid for banning him over an exploit, which they should be busy fixing rather than hiding. If any smaller creator pulled this kind of thing, I can guarantee you that they would delete the account without a second thought, which is probably what happened when this channel got deleted. Like, you can bet that some idiot moderator, who didn't know about the channel and hadn't noticed its content and subscriber count, hit the delete button without a second thought because who cares about some nobody creator. What's particularly stupid is that everyone knows YT completely ignores any bug/exploit reports, even from all but their biggest partnered creators, unless it ends up trending on RU-vid or Twitter. So to then delete his account for being exploitative, when a video like this is the only way that they'd listen to him about an exploit anyway, is even more outrageous. I hope all their moderators have received a lovely email from their managers telling them who The Spiffing Brit is and how they're not to touch his account without top-level permission, because I for one will happily put up a massive stink on all platforms if they should presume to so flippantly delete him again.

@@michaelheliotis5279 But this exploit encourages people to get youtube premium and for content creators to stream on youtube. Its an exploit that benefits Google.

@@Plainsburner big brain RU-vid staff

I drive for a living and let youtube play all day, 10 hours a day, no ads and can shut off my screen. Helping the people i watch is a cool bonus

I wouldn't use RU-vid if I didn't have premium

or you could just support them directly with services like Patreon...

@@CircuitrinosOfficial I'd be homeless if i paid for all the patreons of channels i watch...

RU-vid apparently takes 45% of the earnings from both ad and premium revenue and the remaining 55% goes to the creators. Patreon apparently takes 5-12% of the earnings. So if your goal is to support the creators you like, then using Patreon would be far more effective per dollar.

vtubers are perfectly balanced with no exploits

Not just hololive. Hundreds of vtubers are entering the scene because even with 100-500 live viewers only, you can make a partime's worth of money in 2-4 streams/week

this was my exact thought, since I have RU-vid Premium and a good amount of storage space I will continuously download and delete Roboco VODs, single handedly increasing her chances of being recommended and money she gets from RU-vid

@seiom jvony nO

Us RU-vid premium members: *signature look of superiority*

@@marco_evertus well of course, it's because we are superior

@@nothingnothing1799 No, we are simply more equal.

@@DrRussian bingo. Glad to see other More Equal Premium Members floating around

Can’t wait to give small timers absolutely monstrous amounts of money by watching a single video.

He bought his parent's house for shits and giggles. Yeah.

He makes 25k per stream just on donations

This is what happend with his minecraft story mode livestreams. They have mamy million of views with the average watchtime being over a hour long

his wealth grows. maybe this will finally motivate him to stream again.

Just dropped my second yt vid would appreciate it if y’all checked it out and gave feedback 🙏🏽🙏🏽

Same, I'm gonna find that video he showed and download it

lol. That's how I caught the live in the first place. I rarely watch live as them english type people are 8 hrs ahead of me.

Playing them slower would be better

I mean, you're just taking money away from other creators that you also enjoy. Ultimately you can only directly contribute your own 11.99. Indirect gains from algorithm boost tho...

Lol same

Yes, we are totally worth exploiting.

I have alot of streaming subscriptions. Idk why but I somehow still can never find something to watch.

Yeah it's about time we got some recognition

Lol didn’t expect to see u here

Nice

Il be tuned in for that livestream

Love the content! Keep up the gring

@@JKYWKY same

Just dropped my second yt vid would appreciate it if y’all checked it out and gave feedback 🙏🏽🙏🏽

Same, I have landed on his live streams so many times when I leave his videos autoplaying before bed.

Literally same. It’s always a VOD of Spiff organ harvesting

I use his videos to sleep sometimes, his voice is very calm

Spiff I hate to say it... but I think the vast majority of premium livestream viewers are asleep...

This isn't very healthy, but what can I say, I got to bet my mom and lose.