YouTube Tech Influencers Are Not REAL Developers?

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There seems to be a growing amount of criticism towards RU-vidrs who once were developers, but have since stepped out to do it full-time on RU-vid.
The claim is that these RU-vidrs are not real developers anymore, they're trying to sell us their courses and a bunch of empty promises.
In this video, I want to share a few opinions I have on the matter, especially since I am now doing this full-time, myself.
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@nadirqg 3 месяца назад

There is a huge difference between a developer with real world experience giving advice on RU-vid, and some wannabe giving newcomers some of the worst advice I have seen in my life.

@user-mi2hs5or5r 3 месяца назад

Names please??

@nadirqg 3 месяца назад

@@user-mi2hs5or5r Pooja Dutt for example, you should never listen to her advice

@powerHungryMOSFET 3 месяца назад

@@user-mi2hs5or5r Best way to find imposter is to see how much knowledge they have. In vidoes they provide less than 10% of valuable information

@xtunasil0 3 месяца назад

That's so freakin' true. I enrolled into a bootcamp of 7 month and someone I made there wasn't good at all He started a RU-vid channel explaining wrong stuff to newcomers and he was so out of earth that he even made a "how to sell your website for 10000€" video while he never sold any website in his life. Later on making video explaining that recruiter does badly their jobs as a justification to why he can't get hire instead of just figuring out that his attitude sucked.

@longrolstral 3 месяца назад

@@xtunasil0 Who was it, so we can avoid?

@See_Sharp 3 месяца назад

Teaching is a talent in itself, not everyone is capable of it. Being the best at programming does not really qualify one to be good at teaching.

@ttrev007 3 месяца назад

I have seen good channels and bad channels that try to sell you courses. You can tell when the whole point of the channel is to sell you something, its just a glorified commercial. Other channels give you good quality information and also offer paid content. I don't see the problem.

@murtadha96 3 месяца назад

I'm actually incredibly thankful for all the software content creators on RU-vid who are producing quality useful content or are sharing their insights from the industry or the best approaches to do things. Even as a CS degree student, I find tremendous value in that, and it's NO WAY near what is being taught in college (of course, it depends on the university, but still). And best of all, it's literally all for free! In fact, it's good that they have sponsorship spots in their videos because it means the channel is more sustainable and is more likely to still exist in the future. Who cares about a few second ad that can easily be skipped anyways.

@By-Rop 3 месяца назад

Agree. Welcome to real life devs, we are not living in a Care Bear Open Source world. Have you ever seen a plumber fixing hotels' pipes during his free time?

@clayton_m_ 3 месяца назад

I’m tired of all the doom and gloom that influencers are bringing to the employment marketplace and the forecasts who aren’t even coders anymore. I mean the layoffs are bad and happening. However, there is always a comeback. Coders need to be building projects to make themselves standout when the rebound comes. Or, why not influencers bring some positive energy. Balance the cold hard truth of the situation with some hope. This is not geared towards you. Just some chatter to maybe get you to make a video of a positive nature. I applaud you on your community and will become a member. Thank you for all you do!

@davebudah 3 месяца назад

I have a comment of mine that's similar to this one, jeeez what a debate it has sparked. I so much agree with you, I'm tired of these prophets of doom on RU-vid, its so disgusting.

@dsteppenwolf 3 месяца назад

Positive energy doesn't help me land interviews.

@davebudah 3 месяца назад

@@dsteppenwolf OK , try negative energy see how it goes😌

@dsteppenwolf 3 месяца назад

@@davebudah Landing interviews have nothing to do with energy. You're just a resume for a recruiter UNTIL the interview itself. stfu.

@nickmurdaugh9856 3 месяца назад

If actual value is being provided, it's valid work and is worthy of compensation. It's that simple.

@catalinagalan 3 месяца назад

Honestly, I think it’s another symptom of the current job market and people being frustrated for having believed that it would take less time to find a job, as “RU-vidrs said”. Many many many videos promote how you can switch careers and be self taught and all that, which I still believe to be true…. But… times have changed and some of those videos aren’t that old. I’m just analyzing the situation, not assigning blame! Cheers and thanks for the great content!

@zedsec 3 месяца назад

I have no issue with people quitting their jobs to do RU-vid full time. For me, the issue comes in the cybersecurity space. People who work as a security analyst for two years, never moving beyond that position, blowing up on RU-vid then quitting their jobs. Then they start to sell courses and then they do stuff like making security engineering courses. Again, I have no issues with people selling their courses, or putting their videos on RU-vid. But these people are "selling" the skills for a roll they've never even had, they don't know what they don't know. RU-vid Adsense is tiny, I don't blame people moving beyond this platform to supplement their income. They're putting out stuff for free. But the example I used above is misleading new people in the career path. It's the same people who are selling interview courses when they've never made a hiring decision in their lives.

@BeepBoop2221 3 месяца назад

One thing i am sick of from them is the gloom and doom they spread about AI taking jobs. Which is making people want to try coding put off or scared. I think its nonsense. What is your opinion?

@chunkspiggle3916 3 месяца назад

Oh no, people getting turned off from the tech industry? Less people coming into it? Less competition for jobs? Nooooooo that's awful

@BeepBoop2221 3 месяца назад

Its a bad thing yes. @chunkspiggle3916

@mdelim3128 3 месяца назад

i agree with beepboop they are scaring off pEOPLE WHO WANTS TO HAVE BETTER LIFE AND GAIN MORE MONEY , THEY HAD THIER TIME BUT IF THEY COULD HAVE WORKED NORMAL JOBS LIKE JANITORS OR CLEANERS OR GARBAGE COLLECTORS THEN THEY WOULD NOT SAY OF FEND OFF PEOPLE WHO WANT MORE MONEY , I HAVE A GIRLFRIEND AND TO BE ABLE TO BE WITH HER I AND HAVE A FUTURE I NEEDED TO LEVEL UP AND GAIN MORE MONEY BECAUSE MY CURRENT JOB DOESNT PAY TO MUCH TO REALLY HAVE A GOOD FUTURE, IM 46 AND WANTED TO CHANGE CAREER FROM PROFESSIONAL CHEF TO SOFTWARE ENGINEER AND LETS BE FRANK MONEY IS THE ONLY THING CONTROLLING THIS ffffff........KING WORD , WITHOUT IT WE CANNOT DO NOTHING UNLESS IF AI AND ROBOTS WILL BE WORKING FOR US AND WE DONT NEED TO WORK ANYMORE ,EVERYTHING FREE IN LIFE , NO SOCIAL BARRIERS NO RICH NO POOR ,TECHNOLOGY DOING EVERTHING FOR US ,,SO PLEASE BETTER TEACH NEWCOMERS TO COME TO THIS FIELD AND SUPPORT THEM

@wombozombo 3 месяца назад

Same

@jt4351 3 месяца назад

I don't think it's nonsense, I just think it's going to be for a different reason. My job, our competitors and friends in other industries have all been shoved AI solutions into their suite, and it's been a massive waste of resources. AI can be a great tool, but not everything needs AI. Not to mention the cost and scalability issues of having "Powered by GPT-4" embedded into your product. Unfortunately, I think there may be another round of layoffs a year or two from now for other reasons. During the pandemic, companies overhired because of the hypergrowth that didn't pan out for as long as they thought. I think the same is gonna happen in the AI space. In a few years, companies will finally come to their senses that AI is a brilliant tool that doesn't need to be everywhere, and people will suffer the consequences when they decide to run leaner, aka cut back on AI and costs around tokens.

@wilbertdune 3 месяца назад

Hello, how do you setup your mic? it's smooth.

@user-fed-yum 3 месяца назад

If you can, do. If you can't, teach. If you can't teach, teach the teachers.

@shpleemcgert 3 месяца назад

Im a self taught computer scientist. I’ve taught myself how to think like a programmer, data structures, algorithms, and have studied so many programming languages that they all look the same to me. (Except for rust…) I do it because I love it and it’s more challenging than my day-to-day. I haven’t really applied to developer jobs and instead have shifted to IT operations. My computer science background makes me stand out amongst my peers in this space. I don’t want to lose my programming skills so I’ve decided to take up game development as a hobby. I’m only 23 so maybe I’ll make a hit game by the time I’m 25 and be able to quit my day job.

@broadestsmiler 3 месяца назад

I am actually in a super similar position currently -- love computer science and I've been programming in languages like C and Python for quite a while for a variety of purposes, but only as a hobby. I also work in the Information Technology sector similar to you. Job market for software developers is rough and I figure it would be better to stick out where I am at currently, then pivot over. I just enjoy working with computers in general and I excel at my current job relative to my peers, and I am sure that same work ethic and passion would carry over to over technical careers that I pick up over the years. Best wishes to you, and I hope you make that hit game to earn a bajillion dollars and plenty of notoriety.

@muntasirhossen9730 3 месяца назад

Hi travis, I really like your video you motivate beginners a lot. If you kindly make an video for beginners who wants to be work at front-end, Where can we learn javascript, What sources or courses can help us to get ready for the jobs. Thanks from Australia

@MarcoLenzo 3 месяца назад

The amount of effort it takes to produce a good video backed by research and decent amount of work in scripting and animations, it's massive. I started hoping to be able to release 1 video a week but that's impossible if you have a full time job. I am struggling to publish every two weeks. That said everyone should be very appreciative to whoever produces content. It is true there is content that's not backed by any real work experience. If someone is still studying or just landed a job and produces immediately content on RU-vid telling others how system design or coding is done... chances are that he's just recycling content from other creators. On the other hand, if he has an audience, it means his content is still valuable! Maybe he's more engaging than someone who holds the knowledge thanks to professional experience! For example, I could be a teenager who prefers listening to a fresh graduate speaking rather than someone like me who in his 40s.

@traezeeofor 3 месяца назад

You're doing excellently Travis. Very balanced and experienced takes. Thanks for sharing your wisdom with us continuously.

@HE360_Games 3 месяца назад

This is going to sound crazy and this is even a bit off topic, but before I clicked on this video, I got this channel mixed up with another programming youtube channel called "Traversy media" who teaches about programming too. It's two channels with ALMOST the same name and same topic! lol 🤣 But anyway, that's cool! I enjoy everything here (and on both channels lol)!! And thanks!!

@damiengerard4836 3 месяца назад

same for me as well

@lycan2494 3 месяца назад

Well traversy is legit, this guys a bozo.

@tavettehepburn6154 3 месяца назад

On point as always Travis!

@kamertonaudiophileplayer847 3 месяца назад

It isn't a surprise. It's a reason why I quit journalism. Most RU-vid channels target novice programmers and can't deal with advanced levels.

@PhanorColl 3 месяца назад

as a seasoned developer, I couldn't agree more with you.

@jeffkennedy2269 3 месяца назад

I have seen great channels, such as yours, that help me stay up on new tech. Keep up the good work.

@nyerhovwootorie2222 3 месяца назад

Hey. Just started learning how to code, looking to join some community for inspiration and mentoring. Anybody please?

@iespinosa31 3 месяца назад

For me, RU-vid coders are documentation experts that break down the written word in visual form.

@zugdsbtngizudsgbnudsdsoiu 18 дней назад

Problem is that nowadays all platforms are flooded with developers trying to push their portfolio and write bullshit articles. Also youtubers are dependant on content for their income so no matter what they have to make it. So there will never be a tech influencer that wont try to sell you some "new" framework. In the end youre just bombarded with information you dont need and that is not really helpful which makes it even harder to find good information.

@zshn 3 месяца назад

I find most early stage developers are just making money by "selling the dream" rather than "living the dream". IMHO if you haven't gone through 2-5 promotion cycles in each company you worked for; you're not experienced enough to be taken seriously. Again, just my honest opinion. Build something real and big or show that you've done well in the market. I'm ok if you want to sell courses or products. I agree, so many good developers aren't on the internet and will never be.

@TXNitroFord 3 месяца назад

Skills are Skills no matter how you use those skills.

@anndrew_gi 3 месяца назад

You are a good man Travis, keep it up!

@clen9870 3 месяца назад

I am 48 and do not work in tech, but I want to learn to code. Do you think it is worth it if you do not plan to take it up as a career?

@ttrev007 3 месяца назад

learning new things is good for the brain.

@JediMediator 3 месяца назад

You don't plan on the career, or you don't want the career?

@clen9870 3 месяца назад

I do not plan on pursuing this career, but I am curious to learn more about coding.

@JediMediator 3 месяца назад

@@clen9870 Then there's no pressure. Why not try it out? If you like it and get good, you'll have a valuable skill to carry with you the rest of your life. And while you don't plan on pursuing it as a career right now, that option will still be open to you, and having more options is always a good thing.

@HoussamElbadissi 3 месяца назад

@@clen9870 Go for it 💪 Learning to code is pretty fun and also challenging, so you'll build some brain muscle while also making some cool stuff for yourself (e.g. a website or an app)!

@cjhswe81 3 месяца назад

Clickbait title

@mirowahedali3962 3 месяца назад

I like your content.it helps me.

@kevincodes674 3 месяца назад

Seems aimed at trolling comments. You don't have to be a developer to teach someone something new. I suppose it never bothered me who was making the video, but some interesting points made.

@brunokingz 3 месяца назад

Nice clickbait

@lycan2494 3 месяца назад

Coming from you?

@johnvoorhees2331 3 месяца назад

So first I have been on the hunt for a female youtuber to help teach Java to my 14-year-old daughter. While I am a backend Java developer, I have wanted to find a female coder who knows what they are doing and can communicate to a novice. Dad is just not cool, as an instructor. What I have found is many youtubers (Male and Female) have let their skills rust to obsolescence. They only want to talk/discuss high-level details of any language. Quite frankly I dont think many would survive any dev interview So while I complain about 80% of RU-vid Devs suck(Male and Female) . I will toss out ones that are incredible as examples to future dev RU-vidrs Java Brains(Koushik) Gold Standard of CS tutorials Geeks for Geeks Dan Vega I have zero from for women devs(And I have looked). I know there are incredible women backend devs out there, because I work with them(Java,, C# and C++), Just Not on RU-vid. Since I am pretty solid on OpenShift I will be trying your videos Kubernetestes

@Ptr-NG 3 месяца назад

To be honest, I dont like them Software engineers self-taught... I do respect programmers who understand maths.

@the_jr_dev 3 месяца назад

I do think that there is legitimate criticism of RU-vid coders and I think some don't know how to code. It's funny that you didn't even address any concerns that I actually have other than inundating us with their courses and bootcamps. Don't worry, I will make a video within the next couple of days detailing why I think some coders are imposters.

@user_____M 3 месяца назад

I bought a course from a "tech incluencer" then, surprise, it was poor quality and in one of his videos he said that he was paid 50k in London, lmao... but fooled me. -_-

@BeepBoop2221 3 месяца назад

Which influencer?

@user_____M 3 месяца назад

@@BeepBoop2221 Internet made coder. I mean, you pay a guy named like that the idiot is yourself (myself).

@manojkumar-jt3fw 3 месяца назад

Hi travis, i finally completed AWS Cloud Practioner Stephane Maareks course. Now moving on to AWS SAA.

@manojkumar-jt3fw 3 месяца назад

Hi travis, please make a video on the impact of A.I ML on Cloud Dvops jobs. How should v adopt to these rapidly changing circumstances.

@andrewreed1329 3 месяца назад

learn

@Popi_671 3 месяца назад

Thanks for this video! Appreciate your honest perspective!

@oryhbrx6934 3 месяца назад

Sir , first thing first , thanks for all the effort for this and all the other contents that you've put effort on and created . lemme tell you a personal story : 1 year ago I started to learn front end development and the roadmap that made things logical and do able for me was the road map that you've provided ! through all this year , your videos inspired me to keep on , and specially that video about Udemy courses, now that I've learnt many techs in front end dev and done many projects , that video helps me keep learning ! so the end of the story , your effort made someones life on the other side of the planet better ! keep doing the good job , I appreciate it personally .

@EndLessPain9999 День назад

Point #5 👏👏👏

@RoninX33 3 месяца назад

RU-vidrs are the worse

@powerHungryMOSFET 3 месяца назад

Almost all of youtuber coders (imposters) are misguiding young students. These self proclaimed programmers/coders have little to 0 knowledge about computers, programming. Please top misguiding young people they dont know whats right or wrong yet. Somebody should sue youtube for letting such people to upload tech vidoes when they dont know anything about tech

@marcelo-ramos 3 месяца назад

Nobody should criticize you for doing RU-vid full time. You are an experienced developer and have the knowledge and experience to support your words. However, there are lots of very junior developers who have become "influencers" who talk very authoritatively and give advice like they knew what they were talking about. Most of their advice is just naivety or ignorance, or they just repeat what others have said without even understanding it. Becoming leetcode experts does not make them expert developers, but they talk like they were. They won't fool experienced developers, but aspiring and young developers follow them like they had 30 years in the industry. It's just the blind leading the blind.

@helloworldcsofficial 3 месяца назад

Good video. Keep them coming and ignore the haters.

@BlazeTheCatMan 3 месяца назад

yall ever heard of internet made coder? is he even real or is he a fake programmer like most of them cuz he seems pretty real?

@kevint3522 3 месяца назад

I enjoy and learn from your content Travis. It crossed my mind that you advertise more than some, but as long as you deliver good value I think it is a win-win. You make money and we viewers have one more good resource to help us on our IT journey. I think you strike a good balance between content and promotion. I have a friend who is trying to break into the RU-vid space. He and I often share videos like this and coffee chat about the video from a content provider perspective. Many good lessons to be learned here. Thanks.

@Kingcea12 3 месяца назад

This is just excuse making for people who run the course “business”, you lose skills quickly in this field and at the end of the day you do have to find the balance of life and factually having 2 jobs, the choice is simple you DO have to work dev work to make content worthy of being watched consistently and not just watching your random C# app tutorial once, your family is important that’s why it IS a sacrifice to choose them over doing more work, you can’t have it all and on a side tangent we now get served countless ads from RU-vid and every channel it has become a horrible lasagna of dodging ads at ever turn for every video and the only reason you feel like this doesn’t matter is because you want to make the money off these ads stop acting like you don’t understand this for your own money making sake which is reinforcing peoples criticism

@7A7z 3 месяца назад

lol who am i to advice ppl about live im a rando 17 yo

@jt4351 3 месяца назад

My main issue is the clickbait and shallowness of the content. Lots of "beginner mistakes" or "this is how you become a 10x engineer" and whatever the latest buzzword is. Content creation is a business based on viewership, so it's easy to fall prey to scummy tactics that just work. I'm self taught. I learned from freeCodeCamp, RU-vid, StackOverflow, etc. I've been working in the industry for 5 years now, and while I have finally gotten over the imposter syndrome of not having a CS degree, tech influencers just don't make content for senior developers. We have the experience to know what beginner mistakes look like, we also understand nuance and that no book, design pattern or algorithm is the best of the best all the time, so these lists feel like empty knowledge or worse, wrong if they were to be applied in our current jobs. Again, back to the business model, senior developers are a much smaller audience than CS students / people who want to break into tech, and therefore, there is a much wider audience to be reached if the target is the entry-level folks. And don't get me started on the AI hypetrain. Most of us were fed AI into our jobs, whether we like it or not, and it's great for some things, flat out useless for others. Executives and marketing trying to shove AI into solutions for problems that don't exist is just wild.