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"This Charity Is Lying To You" by / @karljobst & / @someordinarygamers exposes a RU-vidr Charity Scam that lasted 10 years.
by ‪@karljobst‬ • This Charity Is Lying ...
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@evilken00
@evilken00 10 месяцев назад
"We don't touch any of it" Well they took that way too literally and just left the money completely untouched
@majora919
@majora919 10 месяцев назад
He was probably waiting to get a very large amount then he would donate a fraction of it to the charity so he could pocket the rest while saving face is my guess. Glad he got caught in the act
@Random_dud31
@Random_dud31 10 месяцев назад
​@majora919 really? For me it seems he just left it to someone else and didn't bother looking at the finances. There are so many other ways to launder money Not defending him(morally or legally) but it just seems he was grossly negligible for an issue that he claimed that was dear to his heart.
@yofyo
@yofyo 10 месяцев назад
the thing is, they DID touch it. every year they took more than 15k for 'organizational' charges they have shaved six figures over the course of 10 years -- now that might not sound like a lot but it DOES give them plausible deniability while also being able to drain it continuously over and over and over. that's the long con scam here.
@InnerRise
@InnerRise 10 месяцев назад
​@@yofyodon't forget he bought that entire digital library of games a couple times.
@lyndza1989
@lyndza1989 10 месяцев назад
plus collecting the interest@@yofyo
@Cynimun06
@Cynimun06 10 месяцев назад
this lad really went for the 100% completion on his career by getting the bad ending
@saramorin4792
@saramorin4792 10 месяцев назад
having 650k is not rly a bad ending
@aereonexapprentice7205
@aereonexapprentice7205 10 месяцев назад
​@CaleseCrowder86In true Completionist fashion, nonetheless.
@Cynimun06
@Cynimun06 10 месяцев назад
@@saramorin4792 There is no way he gets to keep the money now that this has come to light. Considering how highly illegal what he did is.
@saramorin4792
@saramorin4792 10 месяцев назад
A lot of people get murdered everyday without anyone going to jail for it, taking some 600k from random people no one is going to give a shit about, they only care if its investors backing the government losing money@@Cynimun06
@CordovaMage
@CordovaMage 10 месяцев назад
@@saramorin4792 650k is not enough money to live in America for a long time anymore these days. Especially not in California. And def not enough to risk your youtube/twitch career. That is why I dont find this too creditable.. the story seems to have a hint of overblown journalism.
@Pirokh
@Pirokh 10 месяцев назад
Its really ironic that a dementia charity "forgot" to donate the money.
@Votlon
@Votlon 10 месяцев назад
😂😂😂 this guy gets it, wait what are we~ WHERE AM I
@stanleylutzow3132
@stanleylutzow3132 10 месяцев назад
plot twist : it's the money that have dementia. donated, forgot where it was, returned to original account
@Walter_
@Walter_ 10 месяцев назад
what the money
@ganbitx2391
@ganbitx2391 10 месяцев назад
What Money?
@agamersinsanity
@agamersinsanity 10 месяцев назад
dementia seems to run in the family xD
@tr1co0
@tr1co0 10 месяцев назад
He admitted to spending some amount of it on something else. He justified it by saying it was no more than a couple thousand each time, and that it didn’t happen every year, which is of course irrelevant as what he did is the definition of fraud.
@nightlydata2181
@nightlydata2181 10 месяцев назад
charities do it to fund their operations all the time it's standard procedure. the rest is wut's weird
@jd2792
@jd2792 10 месяцев назад
the problem is the real fruad is him lying and saying the money goes to other charties insted of being in a safe even if it only was last year he found out that still terribe @@nightlydata2181
@user-fy7ri8gu8l
@user-fy7ri8gu8l 10 месяцев назад
​@@nightlydata2181 No, it's not. The expenses is normal. What is not normal and is very probably VERY ILLEGAL is in the other video Jirard states he took out a couple grand here and there, borrowed, to pay expenses for his OTHER charity/nonprofit company. You cannot use nonprofit 1's account as an interest free loan bank for company 2 in vast majority of states that very illegal.
@lutherheggs451
@lutherheggs451 10 месяцев назад
Jesus Christ NO it is not fraud....YES a charity can use funds raised to pay salaries to the people who work for the charity, YES they can use those funds to organize fundraisers for the charity. This is the biggest problem with citizen reporting, you get people who have little to no clue what they're talking about, then you get people farting out the wrong shit in comment sections with zero clue what they're talking about. YES the IRS would be all over them IF there was fraud, its not hard to lose your 501-(C)4 status, YES the DOJ, IRS etc. are all over charities. They go out of their way to look for fraud because charities don't pay taxes...Massive difference between corporations and charities.
@UlrichMcBeardface
@UlrichMcBeardface 10 месяцев назад
It’s so easy to forget what a shark Asmon is when it comes to business. His financial literacy is very impressive.
@deathmetalmoccasins2412
@deathmetalmoccasins2412 10 месяцев назад
asmon is a sharp cookie, i am impressed as well
@catnip202xch.
@catnip202xch. 10 месяцев назад
@@deathmetalmoccasins2412bro literally used to work for the IRS
@Onyominoma
@Onyominoma 10 месяцев назад
he's smart in the areas where it matters, the rest is just a persona
@catnip202xch.
@catnip202xch. 10 месяцев назад
@@Onyominoma tru
@deathmetalmoccasins2412
@deathmetalmoccasins2412 10 месяцев назад
@@Onyominoma hes a genuine character with grounded perspectives, can turn a 7 min video of something and turn it into a 45 min video with new view points and things you wouldnt of think of first viewing
@Ignazo1
@Ignazo1 10 месяцев назад
"We don't touch any of it" - every charity ever
@v4skunk739
@v4skunk739 10 месяцев назад
Meanwhile in reality 99% of charities are registered companies that need to make profit.
@Mampfie
@Mampfie 10 месяцев назад
Games Done Quick also steals like 70% of the money they raise
@McSwordy
@McSwordy 10 месяцев назад
​@@Mampfieproof?
@Troonielicious
@Troonielicious 10 месяцев назад
They are corporations, they get paid a salary because of it
@redliquid6775
@redliquid6775 10 месяцев назад
I mean, to his credit He literally didn't touch it, not even in the way people expected him to apparently
@PimpinIncPro
@PimpinIncPro 10 месяцев назад
10% is great for a charity that actually provides said charity. It’s ridiculously high for one that doesn’t perform the charity it claims to.
@johnsmith99997
@johnsmith99997 10 месяцев назад
yeah asmonds dumbest take in a while
@ruidechen
@ruidechen 10 месяцев назад
I don't know how he missed this point, the whole point is that this foundation wasn't doing jack shit and still using 10% for admin expenses, that is not good.
@TheJols
@TheJols 10 месяцев назад
​@CaleseCrowder86yeah like 17% or something.
@linkshellvendor
@linkshellvendor 10 месяцев назад
@@ruidechen a charity needs to spend money to exist. If they're holding the money, they can't simply disappear.
@bustywaifus
@bustywaifus 10 месяцев назад
Also I've learned last night that excluding the 650K, they also get funding for Indieland, they don't even need to have expenses, it's already paid off from elsewhere.
@BSparksGaming
@BSparksGaming 10 месяцев назад
Dude said he found out they weren’t donating in 2022 and then stated months later they are donating to charities in 2023 🤦‍♂️
@Livvvid
@Livvvid 10 месяцев назад
Asmon brings up some good points in jirards defense but then what you just said.... Jirard blatantly lied lol. He even named specific charities that'd theyd "given" to. This one is weird. I think the play is Jirard and the family WERE trying to keep the money but as long as it stayed in this account they could always claim they never intended to steal it. And if they never got caught they slowly buy things under the charities name and just use if for their own purposes as people eventually forget about all of it. But in order to keep donations coming in the family likely figured they'd have to borrow certain names in the dimentia research field to steal some credibility so people donating, or potentially donating, felt safe giving their money.
@pouf6463
@pouf6463 10 месяцев назад
@@Livvvid they get the money interest each years (dunno how much is it in the US but should be 3-5%) and as the money on the account is growing it's higher each years
@Waggabagaboo
@Waggabagaboo 10 месяцев назад
If the money has been sitting in a bank account since 2014 they have absolutely lost tons of money lol. Inflation has done severe damage to any 2014 savings.
@iga1691
@iga1691 10 месяцев назад
@@Waggabagaboo Yup - no amount of collected interest will account for the cumulative ~33% inflation of USD we've seen since 2014. In essence, a third of the money was lost by simply sitting on it for 10 years.
@BSparksGaming
@BSparksGaming 10 месяцев назад
@@Waggabagaboo I didn’t even consider inflation 😱. Daaaang.
@haisibanaag1563
@haisibanaag1563 10 месяцев назад
He lied to everyone which makes this hard to forgive and forget. The silver lining is that the money can still go to charity but his reputation takes a nose dive from this.
@PizzaPatroll
@PizzaPatroll 10 месяцев назад
Not only the money, but also the interest and pay the difference of the depreciation of the value. $500 then is something like $350 now.
@dark_winter8238
@dark_winter8238 10 месяцев назад
I have seen no proof that the money is still there.
@LudwigVaanArthans
@LudwigVaanArthans 10 месяцев назад
If money is there on paper, doesn't money is there in the account. An audit is needed, and then we know for sure
@Spacemaaan
@Spacemaaan 10 месяцев назад
When my mother died back in late 2011 we set up a charity to raise money for the medical bills/funeral/burial and somehow some way the lady that helped us set it up took every bit of it... it still shocks me to this day how inconsiderate people really are. They will kick you while you're already down...
@funnman1777
@funnman1777 9 месяцев назад
Dude I'm sorry... there might be a way to get that money back but, even then it's disappointing that she did something rather selfish....
@Tomo_mo
@Tomo_mo 9 месяцев назад
Classic humanity.
@Spacemaaan
@Spacemaaan 9 месяцев назад
@funnman1777 I wish. The lady completely disappeared and this was a few years ago 🥲
@Unholy187
@Unholy187 9 месяцев назад
Thats AWFUL. people can be horrible ..
@ChristopherDwiggins
@ChristopherDwiggins 8 месяцев назад
It's called a lawsuit. Plenty of attorneys who will take it up for incredibly cheap or free up front. It's illegal to take money for donations and then not use it for the said purpose.
@Blandco
@Blandco 10 месяцев назад
It's strange that name dropping of specific organizations continued for 10 years. None of those places got a cent but their names were still used year after year. Also, having an account with a massive amount of money in it is an asset in itself. Having expenses that aren't itemized isn't great either. Very disappointing that people immediately want to forgive and forget.
@snazzydrew
@snazzydrew 10 месяцев назад
Well apparently one of the research organization might have gotten his mother's body for research long before the charity org started... but that's some really goofy stuff to stretch to a "partnership" though.
@ruidechen
@ruidechen 10 месяцев назад
Yeah something obviously doesn't add up, either he's not being truthful or he has got to be the most incompetent/negligent person to run a charity organization if he didn't have any malicious intent.
@Cyan101
@Cyan101 10 месяцев назад
Esp when he said he didnt know what was being done with the money, but somehow knows names it "was" going to?
@linhza501
@linhza501 10 месяцев назад
​​@@ruidechenif pure negligence is the true cause then it would still paint a very bad picture as he really only cares about his image and reputation rather than actually cares about where any of that money went.
@purrpocalypse
@purrpocalypse 10 месяцев назад
@@Cyan101 I feel like his family was running it and lying to him too, so he was completely oblivious and naively trusted them. Basically they fucked him over for life here, which... Listening to the stories he's told over the years about his family? It actually tracks.
@ndr2q
@ndr2q 10 месяцев назад
When gross negligence or reckless incompetence is your BEST case scenario, you know you fucked up.
@kristopher4557
@kristopher4557 9 месяцев назад
I read this in uncle rogers voice
@swankzilla
@swankzilla 10 месяцев назад
Let's be honest, those charities with 20%+ administration charges probably have hundreds of employees. Whereas "Open Hand" sounds like it's ran by his dad and maybe a few family members. And tbh if they haven't done anything with the money, what are ANY administration costs for anyway? Sounds shady AF to me and his excuses are laughable.
@television9233
@television9233 10 месяцев назад
Don't forget they all officially put that they worked 0 hours and thus received $0 as salary. If they were running a scam it would be super easy to throw the money at random places to "help people" then pay themselves huge chunks in administrative fees. This really seems like a severe case of mismanagement and it's extremely fortunate that all the funds are still there, all that needs to happen now is to distribute the funds appropriately.
@yea3603
@yea3603 10 месяцев назад
The 10k a year makes sense to me if those are the costs for the yearly fundraising event. But that makes the issue worse that they’re using money to promote the fundraiser AND not doing anything else with it.
@swankzilla
@swankzilla 10 месяцев назад
@@television9233 If they worked 0 hours and received 0 pay, why would they have any administrative fees at all? And for now I’d keep it to the funds are allegedly still there, if he’s telling the truth - which so far doesn’t seem likely. For all we know, he’s drained his personal funds instead of the charity funds, knowing he can fall back on that. I’m not saying that’s the case, but who knows. I just don’t buy that it’s (very extreme) negligence considering he’s been claiming to donate since ‘finding out’.
@bibsp3556
@bibsp3556 10 месяцев назад
It's not like charities don't have overheads. But this should all be transparent if you want people to take it seriously. There can be legitimate reasons why things have high overheads, just let us know.
@SaveTheSunF1R3x
@SaveTheSunF1R3x 10 месяцев назад
@@yea3603 the fundraiser is actually a separate entity that they already get sponsors to fund. he even admitted him self he took thousands for indieland which was "wrong" and that "he's not supposed to do stuff like that". his actual words.
@Sopm1
@Sopm1 10 месяцев назад
I work in this space and we often receive correspondence from people who want to start their own charity. In many cases this is ignited by the loss of a close family member to an illness/disease (similar to what happened here). We provide them with advice on what charities are already working in the area and how to engage/raise money for them. Sadly many people ignore our advice and instead persist with a half arsed attempt at making their own charity. It mostly goes like this: they do a small amount of research and are shocked to find out they aren’t starting a global revolution as there are 100s of charities already doing what they want to do. However, they think they can do it better! Then the real slap in the face hits when they realise it requires a lot of WORK and they abandon the whole thing. Usually without any donation/contribution to any of the existing charities. While I wish I was wrong, and I'm not saying this is what happened here, I believe that in a lot of these cases the people are in grief and want to start a charity for themselves as a means of dealing with it. They aren’t truly interested in the wider issue and weren’t even consciously aware of its existence until it impacted their life.
@danielnoh1520
@danielnoh1520 10 месяцев назад
Vast majority of people who want to start charity are grossly unprepared for the business side of the charity like doing the forms, marketing campaign etc… Also for anyone reading this, “admin” costs for charities can vary an amazing amount because what can be categorised under admin and not is a grey area
@alexandergilbert1023
@alexandergilbert1023 10 месяцев назад
Any advice on finding good charities to donate to?
@ironfist7789
@ironfist7789 7 месяцев назад
Yeah, and a charity that gives to other charities, even reasonable administrative costs would siphon at each level I would think.
@shadyshady2286
@shadyshady2286 10 месяцев назад
It's disingenuous at best, fraud at worst. This is like the Johnny Depp/Amber Hurd thing where Amber kept saying her "pledge" to pay charity means the same thing as "donating" the money.
@Dandacion
@Dandacion 10 месяцев назад
This honestly just feels like incompetence more than anything malicious to me.
@demonplay21
@demonplay21 10 месяцев назад
@@Dandacion if you have 10s of millions, then losing track of half a million IS incompetence. if you have half a million, then 'losing track of' half a million is malicious.
@Schwaka
@Schwaka 10 месяцев назад
@@demonplay21 I don't think you know what malicious means.
@Dandacion
@Dandacion 10 месяцев назад
@@Schwaka They're also just inventing things, no one said they lost track of the money lol. They just said they couldn't find someone they wanted to give the money to. The updates to this of Karl's video getting taken down by the foundation isn't a good sign of things to come though and makes me start to doubt their intentions.
@oompalumpus699
@oompalumpus699 10 месяцев назад
​@@SchwakaIt's malicious because it was planned.
@brooke4782
@brooke4782 10 месяцев назад
Videos like this always get extra funny when you know Asmon work for the IRS for like a year or two.
@AjaxOutlaw
@AjaxOutlaw 10 месяцев назад
And his pops did as well 😂
@arturzinurov4781
@arturzinurov4781 10 месяцев назад
Explains why the auditors didn’t come for their ass 10 years later.
@TheRealZura
@TheRealZura 10 месяцев назад
22:22 THIS IS 100% TRUE. Ask any professional if negligence is a valid excuse in a court of law. One of the few things that was really hammered into me in my business ethics course. Jirard this is your charity and you can’t be unaware of its activities.
@ToadstedCroaks
@ToadstedCroaks 10 месяцев назад
"Negligent _____" is still a crime, and it's own punishable bracket in court. People are absolutely stupid if they think it's a get out of jail free card, like trying to plead insanity.
@TehcaruS_Bright
@TehcaruS_Bright 10 месяцев назад
The SBF defense lmao.
@sadhinn
@sadhinn 10 месяцев назад
Zura janai katsuo da
@anderskronquist9750
@anderskronquist9750 10 месяцев назад
I'd argue that the number of CEOs who claim they knew nothing makes a case for why people believe that ignorance and negligence are valid excuses for some under the law. People just assume that the same rules apply to them as to the really powerful (note: not necessarily the same as the rich).
@Phyrrax
@Phyrrax 10 месяцев назад
In german we have a saying "unwissenheit schützt for strafe nicht", which rpughly translates to unknowingness/unawareness doesnt protect you from punishment(/a sentence). If you are the head of a company/charity/organisation especially you need to know what is going on, because in such cases even if you genuinely didnt know, you are accountable(unless we talking big corpos...they often have strawmen and a teamnof lawyers protecting them).
@mineralbunny8736
@mineralbunny8736 10 месяцев назад
When I joined the Army one of the first things they did was teach us how to properly donate to charities if that’s what we wanted to do. There are like Zack said all sorts of ways to verify what percentage of overhead a charity takes before they donate the rest. We were encouraged only to donate to charities that were above 90%. I feel like that should have been part of high school’s adult training. Oh wait… that’s not a thing 😅
@thegingineer0
@thegingineer0 10 месяцев назад
There used to be. Called home economics. But then the US government decided to fund things based on math/science/reading/writing test scores so no money was left for that sort of program. So now things like balancing a checkbook or cooking for oneself is left to the student to learn on their own.
@Excalibur01
@Excalibur01 10 месяцев назад
@@thegingineer0 Now schools aren't even trying to educate the young and people are getting dumber every day
@FeiFongWang
@FeiFongWang 10 месяцев назад
Ah yes, the military. The true elementary school for poor Americans.
@truedox
@truedox 10 месяцев назад
@@FeiFongWang Did you go to elementary school? When you use internet cliché's to try to sound smart, you actually don't.
@zoulzopan
@zoulzopan 10 месяцев назад
above 90%? what does that mean?
@MrBeetsGaming
@MrBeetsGaming 10 месяцев назад
I've seen people making excuses for him because the money is supposedly still there but that is irrelevant since he's been saying it is going places that it wasn't going including AFTER being called out he has STILL said it was going to those places. This isn't just some innocent mistake or "negligence" it is 100% purposeful dishonesty, to what end idk but I would imagine the end goal was to keep the money.
@decadent5341
@decadent5341 10 месяцев назад
if he was in the board, he'd have to sign the balance sheets every year. Literally impossible to miss that money is just building up
@thehoodedteddy1335
@thehoodedteddy1335 3 месяца назад
Also there are legally required meetings where this stuff needs to be discussed
@mlsanders4800
@mlsanders4800 3 месяца назад
@@thehoodedteddy1335 yup, at least once a year
@nebulajumper6216
@nebulajumper6216 10 месяцев назад
He worked for G4 .. first red flag. And it is fraud because they publicly said that money "was" donated. Not pledged. Also, if they made more then 100k a year and there is 600k on the account ... where is the rest?
@nicholascampbell90
@nicholascampbell90 10 месяцев назад
They only made over 100k in the past 3 or 4 years. The first couple years, they only claimed 30k a year give or take.
@verafeiyd
@verafeiyd 10 месяцев назад
youre kind of cooked bud, the money has only been raised since Indieland was created, the first couple years they only claimed general expenses, and over the last 5 or so years, the 600k came in, roughly 80-110k per year. There is no rest, they havent moved any of it outside of the few thousand Jirard siphoned for Indielands events. The Administrative Costs count the act of doing taxes, and lights, so 10k of admin costs is exuberantly low in comparison to most other places. They have fantastic stats, its just the stats arent fucking going anywhere
@CptnKraken
@CptnKraken 10 месяцев назад
New Karl Jobst videos are always the highlight of the week, but as a longtime fan of The Completionist - this one really broke my heart. Major props to Karl for reporting on this and getting the truth out - he is the hero we need but don’t deserve.
@EclipsisTenebris
@EclipsisTenebris 10 месяцев назад
Honestly, I love Karl but Muhamar's video is better. It really is a good idea to watch both as they both recommend.
@MF-Productions
@MF-Productions 10 месяцев назад
Yea this one stung
@WardenOfTerra
@WardenOfTerra 10 месяцев назад
Karl is annoying. He doesn't state facts and only states opinions.
@exmello
@exmello 10 месяцев назад
@@WardenOfTerra is annoying. He doesn't state facts and only states opinions.
@boldCactuslad
@boldCactuslad 10 месяцев назад
he just forgot
@ChadZeluff
@ChadZeluff 10 месяцев назад
So the guy who’s known for 100% completing things only got to the 90% mark with a charity and skipped the last 10% of actually giving the money?
@pwezidan
@pwezidan 10 месяцев назад
🤣
@boldCactuslad
@boldCactuslad 10 месяцев назад
maybe he was waiting for $1M to get the achievement lol
@ThorfinnSkuII
@ThorfinnSkuII 10 месяцев назад
Or he got early stages of dementia and genuinely doesn't know what's up anymore lol okay yeah bad joke, but that's essentially the equivalent of making a joke out of charities in general like Open Hands seems to be doing
@bibsp3556
@bibsp3556 10 месяцев назад
​@@ThorfinnSkuIIbeat me to it
@Fascistbeast
@Fascistbeast 10 месяцев назад
Yep The Completionist $$$ 😂
@WhiskyWoof
@WhiskyWoof 10 месяцев назад
Asmon is right. Words matter. When he realized he said, “that’s not cool”. That’s not cool? If I ran a charity for 10 years and I found out the money was never donated my heart would drop into my ass. I’d be freaking the fuck out.
@alexjustalexyt1144
@alexjustalexyt1144 4 месяца назад
especially when someone has such an emotional connection to the charity and it's cause
@JanLovesBmx
@JanLovesBmx 10 месяцев назад
In Honor of his mom, yes his mom got to be so proud of him.
@Auskaa
@Auskaa 9 месяцев назад
Perhaps his mom was a grifter, and actually proud.
@YurinanAcquiline
@YurinanAcquiline 9 месяцев назад
​@@AuskaaThat is what I am thinking too. The whole family is in on this, so maybe the mom was just like that.
@1ButtonDash
@1ButtonDash 10 месяцев назад
this is why I don't trust virtually any charity ever. I don't know if it's just me but I just almost ALWAYS get a sense there is some sort of scamming or laundering going on.
@arglebargle5531
@arglebargle5531 10 месяцев назад
Well it's probably not just you, but some of us do research instead of assuming everything's corrupt.
@1ButtonDash
@1ButtonDash 10 месяцев назад
@@arglebargle5531 I understand but with all the scammers nowadays infiltrating nearly every aspect of life in some way or another I'd rather not take the risk and always feel like in the back of my mind that my money went into some douche's bank account rather than the cause.
@firestorm5371
@firestorm5371 10 месяцев назад
If it is for a German charity you can trust it, as per law basically min 50% of the donation have to go to the cause and at that point the government is already looking into it. The average is 70% - 80% go to the cause.
@Astelch
@Astelch 10 месяцев назад
@@arglebargle5531not everything is corrupt but I wouldn’t be surprised if someone is pocketing a bit of that cash stack. My experience in life is that there are always a bad apple
@arglebargle5531
@arglebargle5531 10 месяцев назад
@firestorm5371 basically every country has some version of this law. It's still worth looking into.
@bingchillin5341
@bingchillin5341 10 месяцев назад
The thing is, whether they used the money or not, or spent it. They lied, they lied to every person that donated, lied to every person that put their efforts and time into the project. All their time and money was wasted because the money has been sitting in an account for 9 years. So where are the benefits to donating then? all that money and time that could've gone to research was just sitting in an account. So essentially everyone got played, and that is a scam in itself.
@nine9_abyss
@nine9_abyss 10 месяцев назад
As someone who's from a country that's always ravaged by typhoons, I always see in the news that we got tons of donations from charities around the world but when I take a look around I just wonder where all the money went. Cause all they give you is a fvcking bag of rice with a couple can of sardines.
@anderskronquist9750
@anderskronquist9750 10 месяцев назад
20% admin fees take from the donation at the originating country, a 10-30% admin cost in the receiving country, then prioritizing "economic recovery" over emergency relief. Note - economic recovery can mean rebuilding businesses, because if there's no businesses people will starve eventually anyway. Oh dear, the business that was restored didn't exist prior to catastrophe/claimed to need loads more money than needed? Well, I guess the people without food just have to tighten their belts and pull themselves up by the bootstraps.
@Ombrageur
@Ombrageur 8 месяцев назад
Imagine you get payed with the money you helped raise without saying it and watch a video about a scam on money raised.
@mlsanders4800
@mlsanders4800 3 месяца назад
paid, not payed.
@YukoValis
@YukoValis 10 месяцев назад
They didn't donate a single dollar to anyone, not to the charity they said or anyone else. They also pulled money from what was donated to them. In total they raised $655,520 for dementia research, but only $549,320 of it is left. They have been taking between $10-30K from it each year as "expenses" with $0 for charity contributions.
@anderskronquist9750
@anderskronquist9750 10 месяцев назад
Ah, but they personally donated 10$ a year to two different charity organisations, so when they say that "we donated to charity" they meant themselves, not the organisation they represented. Or something similar. Of course, they forgot the receipts, so they can't prove this, but you gotta believe them, they wouldn't just try to take the money... would they? O.O
@TurtleChad1
@TurtleChad1 10 месяцев назад
It seems the Completionist is taking a long time to complete this charity.
@bestboy897
@bestboy897 10 месяцев назад
Ba dum tss
@notuxnobux
@notuxnobux 10 месяцев назад
He wants 100% completion before he donates
@bradleymoore2797
@bradleymoore2797 10 месяцев назад
He's really bad at completing roleplaying games. That take such a long time.
@Zerochilluwu
@Zerochilluwu 10 месяцев назад
lol Dude never claimed to be a speed runner.
@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu
@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu 10 месяцев назад
Some of the biggest evidence he hasnt donated it, is usually these big donations are acknowledged by the foundations receiving the funds. Heck i dont think i've ever noticed any donations over 10k go unacknoledged. Let alone one for $600k.
@jayleno2192
@jayleno2192 10 месяцев назад
I work with a lot of local charities, and they'll send a card if you give them $100.
@Tsolus
@Tsolus 10 месяцев назад
Even if it gets donated NOW, depreciation and the years of lost research still take a chunk out of this. It should 100% be passed on ASAP, but that does not absolve those involved entirely, even if they go for the 'I'm just incompetent' angle... Shame.
@fenixfelixx
@fenixfelixx 10 месяцев назад
You can tell the IRS, I'm stupid, all you want, they still gonna slap the cuffs on you for something like this.
@kurojima
@kurojima 10 месяцев назад
@@fenixfelixx and rightly so
@tenesenka
@tenesenka 10 месяцев назад
​​@Mundungus $1 today is not equivalent to $1 20 years ago. You do not understand economics. Go look at Zimbabwe and see how cash can inflate in value. The Forex market is literally about the value of cash changing over time, and China abuses this every year. Currency does inflate and deflate regularly. That's why printing trillions is a problem.
@Jobocan.
@Jobocan. 10 месяцев назад
​@@tenesenka But if I have a 1$ bill from 20 years ago and go to a store today to use it, it's still worth 1$. The buying power of that dollar is what actually changed.
@zecaptainpegleg8820
@zecaptainpegleg8820 10 месяцев назад
Except its been found that dementia research has been falsified for the last couple decades.
@j.leblanc3176
@j.leblanc3176 10 месяцев назад
I'm losing my mother-in-law to Alzheimer's. These guys are shameful and pathetic frauds; time is the only thing you DON'T have with this.
@laertesindeed
@laertesindeed 10 месяцев назад
Literally, they could be keeping all that money in an account that earns interest payments which they can skim off for their own personal use and meanwhile the principal is not reduced so they can sit in front of a camera or lawyer and say "we don't touch the money" with a straight face. It is very unethical and despicable.
@fahadalghamdi9316
@fahadalghamdi9316 9 месяцев назад
thats a good point, I should have thought of that as a reason. It is still charity fraud by definition. Since any reasonable person would assume that the money would be donated immediately or as soon as possible, not being ordered on an account for 10 years.
@laertesindeed
@laertesindeed 9 месяцев назад
@@fahadalghamdi9316 Plus.... since more information has come out since I made the original comment up there..... it now seems very likely that they were keeping the money in an account so that they could keep using the charity existence as a front for money laundering through the golf tournaments; whereby corporations and/or organizations would donate money to that charity golf tournament and the full amount of those donations was never recorded in public. Only the amount which the charity fraudster wanted to decide was reported. Thus, the fraudster and his father or brother etc could divert those other funds for their own use. Quite the despicable money laundering scheme, honestly...... and the IRS should most definitely punish them for the unethical and illegal behavior.
@FatGuyLittIeCoat
@FatGuyLittIeCoat 10 месяцев назад
My guess is, at least one person involved planned on keeping this as a retirement fund, so that if money ever stopped coming in, they could keep taking larger and larger amounts out each year, quietly shuttering the charity once the account dried up and walking away with the money in hand. Also saying the operating costs are reasonable is a little wild when you compare them to charities that actually employ and help people, it shouldn't cost very much to do nothing with the money each year.
@vagrantknights
@vagrantknights 10 месяцев назад
Since charities are forced to have their taxes be available publicly, this is by far the worst way imaginable to scam your viewers. It makes no sense. Even incompetence and stupidity don't justify what's going on here
@BananaMana69
@BananaMana69 10 месяцев назад
​@@vagrantknightsTo say stupidity doesn't justify this is kinda silly. People have done much much worse because they were stupid, people have been killed because of being stupid not just gotten themselves in a lot of trouble... I have a feeling because you watched Jirard for so long and he never came across as an idiot you assume he has similar intelligence to you, but it really doesn't take an intelligent guy to beat games and run a RU-vid channel... To a stupid person this doesnt seems like an idiotic scam thats obviously gonna ruin your life, it seems like a brilliant way to make a lot of money, especially when you keep getting away with it year over year.
@vagrantknights
@vagrantknights 10 месяцев назад
@@BananaMana69 I guess, but the level of stupidity if this was simply negligence is astounding... because it's not just 1 mistake, it's 1 mistake done over and over and over for 10 years. Maybe I assume too much, at least that if they have the resources and ability to start a charity, they would know how it works and what is/isn't public. I mean, props to us for not catching this idiocy for 10 years too I guess...
@BananaMana69
@BananaMana69 10 месяцев назад
@@vagrantknights Yeah i mean it took us 10 years to figure it out, if the dude took the money and ran to a different countryband dissappeared a year ago, all the donors would be thr idiots and Jiarard would be a smart scumbag.
@Shellackle
@Shellackle 10 месяцев назад
If the only added administrative labor would be taking the money and simply wiring it over to the charities in question, costs would not rise considerably at all. The current costs already cover pretty much every part of the fundraising aspect. It's like writing your final paper and just not submitting it. Doesn't take anywhere near as much effort to just submit it compared to writing the paper.
@bellzhellz5922
@bellzhellz5922 10 месяцев назад
Either he had no role in the distribution of the cash and found out it was not going anywhere, or he knew all along. Kinda sucks because he is gonna take the fall here when I am sure there is definetly more than one person at fault
@spencer6736
@spencer6736 10 месяцев назад
What sucks is if this were true, then he continued to promote the lie after finding out about it. So no matter what, he actively lied to people for the purpose of getting financial donations.
@sessy01
@sessy01 10 месяцев назад
Deep audit and inquiry to see of anyone skimmed, IMMEDIATELY send the money to a charity once it's all kosher and then run damage control with apologies and promises of transparency. Wouldn't say Jirard is a bad guy, just very very naïve.
@dante7302
@dante7302 10 месяцев назад
Considering he's listed as a director, it's still negligence if he never knew.
@Matthew-rp3jf
@Matthew-rp3jf 10 месяцев назад
He knew,he's grasping at straws in trying to justify it at this point
@Matthew-rp3jf
@Matthew-rp3jf 10 месяцев назад
Administrative costs for what?! No money was distributed..the charity is doing nothing
@Playbahnosh
@Playbahnosh 10 месяцев назад
It's pretty obvious the guy is guilty as all hell, and they've been caught mid-fraud. The reason all the money is still there (or so they claim), is because they couldn't cash out. Yet. It's extremely hard to just cash out a foundation, especially if it's a non-profit. You first have to launder that money through valid recipients. A foundation's charter limits what you can spend it's funds on, and with a charity, a non-profit nonetheless, that list is VERY short. The second you try to move that pile of money out of the charity, and NOT to a valid recipient or organization, it's gonna raise some huge alarm bells at the IRS and various other acronym organizations, like the FBI's fraud division. The reason they couldn't cash out is most likely that they are friggin amateurs and they couldn't find a corrupt lab or organization to participate or give them a large enough kickback. Just like Asmon said, their reported operating costs are very sus, like they are desperately trying to stay under the radar until they find an org equally stupid enough to play along. The problem is, they did this scam ass backwards. With charity scams, you have to find or create the orgs you'll launder the donos through FIRST, preferably years in advance. Because if you try to move the money through an org which was created AFTER the charity, that's gonna raise a forest of red flags in all the wrong places. And you rather need a veritable maze of said orgs, because the SECOND you cash out through one of them, the timer starts ticking to the FBI kicking down your door, so you need to get gone really friggin fast after payday (preferably to some place with no extradition). But considering they were such friggin stupid amateurs even a youtuber could blow their scam wide open, I don't think they have much of a choice now. The best they can do at this point is get rid of that money lightning fast (like give it to UC or any number of the recipients they were continuously name-dropping through the years) and hope to sweet baby jesus the IRS/FBI don't consider them a big enough fish to heat up the fryer for.
@chrisdee7931
@chrisdee7931 9 месяцев назад
IRS? not in the third world.
@Xerclipse
@Xerclipse 9 месяцев назад
As I read this message, I suspected that you have experience in this or you are Saul Goodman yourself (which could be both)
@HeyMyNameIs...
@HeyMyNameIs... 10 месяцев назад
Man the curtain is really falling for these long time "positive" youtubers... crazy to think every single youtuber i followed for years gets caught into some bad shit.
@MortalCoil64
@MortalCoil64 10 месяцев назад
Boogie is the forefront in my mind on this note
@ChangedMyNameFinally69
@ChangedMyNameFinally69 10 месяцев назад
​@@MortalCoil64I mean he always had rancid vibes and technically he's been getting into shit for years at this point
@mrgobbleton
@mrgobbleton 10 месяцев назад
Not our boy asmon!
@WilsonWorld93
@WilsonWorld93 10 месяцев назад
If you stop and think about it, Open Hand was taking ~10% for their operating costs. However, they are a middleman charity. So the entire plan was to pass the money to charities with their own operating costs as well. Which means even less money makes it to the causes themself. Really, just donating straight to the best causes is the best option. Hopefully this is a great lesson for as many people as possible moving into the future.
@hypothalapotamus5293
@hypothalapotamus5293 10 месяцев назад
Just think about the overhead UCSF charges...
@everythingpony
@everythingpony 10 месяцев назад
If we go with what you said and he needs to donate to the best charity, that's what he's been saying. The whole time is that he's trying to find a good charity. The best charity
@ronnienaldo7101
@ronnienaldo7101 10 месяцев назад
@@everythingponylmao why would finding the right people to send it to take 10 years, is dementia research only being done in secret bases on antarctica
@captaincrunch1707
@captaincrunch1707 9 месяцев назад
@@everythingponyyou have to be kidding . That’s like saying , “gee , I can’t find the best cancer research charity to donate my money to”. It makes absolutely no sense to play dumb other than this guy is a deceitful grifter
@holderian0
@holderian0 10 месяцев назад
Even if the administrative costs are relatively low, it's still fucked up that for 10 years they've been charging administrative costs when they have done jack shit at administrating the money.
@italianspiderman5012
@italianspiderman5012 10 месяцев назад
Exactly, free money for doing absolutely nothing.
@fattony75
@fattony75 10 месяцев назад
I saw this yesterday - the sad thing is this - the worst case scenario is that they were holding the money and charging admin fees year after year to siphon money way to themselves etc. which is bad. BUT the BEST case scenario is just as sad because best cast, Jirard screwed up and was negligent and failed to help any patients or research for almost a decade because he and his family were just dumb. Either way it sucks man.
@gantech7788
@gantech7788 10 месяцев назад
Why save for retirement. Just create a charity and grow the funds to the point of being able to live off charity fund interest as admin fees.
@fattony75
@fattony75 10 месяцев назад
@@ChristmasLore I hear you - I work in construction and my wife is a nurse in the healthcare industry - I know how little $600,000 ultimately is, but it would have done more good than just sitting in an account for 9+ years is all I am saying.
@shib5267
@shib5267 10 месяцев назад
Bro you'd steal more than 10k a year if you were planning to siphon the money to your bank account
@RWhite_
@RWhite_ 10 месяцев назад
@@shib5267 Also they could still siphon money in the form of "Administrative Expenses" even if they donated money. I don't think anyone would raise any concern if they didn't donate literally all of the money at once and left like $20-$30k to cover those expenses at the end of the year. This is so fucking confusing to me, I do not understand what the motivation would be to just let the money gather dust in a bank account for 10 years.
@gantech7788
@gantech7788 10 месяцев назад
@@shib5267 If they were hoping to blow up like GDC it would quickly ramp to hundreds of thousands a year at 10%. Plus pulling excess destroys the purpose of letting money sit to grow. If the money is still there it shows they had a long term goal in mind.
@aaronlambert9297
@aaronlambert9297 10 месяцев назад
Asmondgold is correct about the signatures not showing up on paper tax documents signed electronically. I have signed all my personal and business taxes electronically for 10 years and I just looked at my paper copies given to me by my accountant for all those tax years and they all look just like the form shown starting at about 10:28 in the video. All the other info is filled out such as the tax preparer's name and address but my signature and date do not show up on any of the paper forms. The tax form not being signed and dated by the person in charge of the charity on the paper form is not an indication of fraud.
@Sympanet
@Sympanet 10 месяцев назад
Since when is there a second D in Asmongold
@brosplit
@brosplit 10 месяцев назад
​@@Sympanetwhat a weird take out of the message OP conveyed 😂 who the f cares if it has triple D
@masteryi197
@masteryi197 10 месяцев назад
​@@SympanetOk, this is an mandela effect. I always thought, to this moment, that it's written Asmondgold.
@CardinalCake
@CardinalCake 10 месяцев назад
@@Sympanetgonna cry?
@anderskronquist9750
@anderskronquist9750 10 месяцев назад
Personally, I'd assume it was for security - if all I needed to get someone's signature was their tax form (assuming they worked on a public company/charity), it'd be super easy to copy-paste said signature.
@psoffxifan4904
@psoffxifan4904 10 месяцев назад
The lesson from this is, if you want to donate money to help a cause, look into it yourself and donate directly to it if possible.
@ProjektBurn
@ProjektBurn 10 месяцев назад
What Asmond says about the words people use being more telling of what they're doing is so spot on. I had a gf who came over one day and started talking in a way that just wasn't like her in the nearly 10 years I'd known her. I paused and thought about what I did know about her and before I could even process fully everything going on, I said, "you banged my best friend didn't you?" She stops talking with a look of sheer horror and replies, "Who told you? I bet it was (mutual friend). I knew I shouldn't have told him!" And I go, "No. You just did. Leave." All from contextual clues of what she was saying and how she was saying it. This applies to everyone that you learn enough about. Pattern recognition is a thing.
@ozzcoremidmx8287
@ozzcoremidmx8287 10 месяцев назад
The biggest issue here is that the money has not been donated and has been on an account for around 10 years, I could understand if it was 1 or maybe 2 years but 10 years is odd, especially if we consider that the money the people donated years ago does not worth the same as today because of devaluation. This is something to be cautious, as ProJared said, serious allegations need to be taken seriously and that's why I consider waiting for a good explanation is important regardless if this feels disappointing (especially if you were a TOVG follower/supporter for years).
@blue19991
@blue19991 10 месяцев назад
Where the Projared allegations not correct then?
@ozzcoremidmx8287
@ozzcoremidmx8287 10 месяцев назад
@@blue19991 They were not, during his controversy he had the receipts.
@pookey7755
@pookey7755 10 месяцев назад
@@blue19991the cheating def happened, the CP stuff wasn’t true though. You can make of that what you will but I’m glad ProJared is back.
@blue19991
@blue19991 10 месяцев назад
​@@ozzcoremidmx8287 He still send nudes to fans right? He just didnt know that they were minors.
@Heroickittens
@Heroickittens 10 месяцев назад
Sounds to me they had hoped to keep the money and hope people forget about it and quietly deposit it into their personal accounts in 20 years
@erich9907
@erich9907 10 месяцев назад
It can take a lifetime to earn trust, but a second to lose it.
@namethefifth7315
@namethefifth7315 10 месяцев назад
My question is why haven't the charities in question called out this large annual fundraiser thats been claiming to to fund them for the past 10 years
@bustywaifus
@bustywaifus 10 месяцев назад
They might not even know about it. They're quoting a guy from UCSF that doesn't even work there anymore, left in 2006.
@Mickofalltrades
@Mickofalltrades 10 месяцев назад
Unless someone notifies them then how would they know?
@Blandco
@Blandco 10 месяцев назад
In the video it shows that the guy who was a representative of one of those organizations in the first fundraiser hadn't worked there in 7 years. It seems a bit odd overall.
@DontGiveUp_Skeleton
@DontGiveUp_Skeleton 10 месяцев назад
@@Mickofalltrades Their site would get a significant spike in traffic.
@axelminus
@axelminus 10 месяцев назад
I am guessing the people at these foundations that might even know about their specific donors are not as chronically online as the rest of us
@tako_ro
@tako_ro 10 месяцев назад
Wow, it's wild seeing people on twitter say that they shouldn't be judged until they give a response. There are responses in the video. He literally says that money is going places in their stream and name drops their partners even though they have not donated a single cent for almost 10 years. Oh god we can't have nice things can we?
@yesmansam6686
@yesmansam6686 10 месяцев назад
I mean, yeah, that's sketchy as hell, but I get the feeling that there's still way more to the story. Wait for this to play out before you light your torch.
@LunaticKD1991
@LunaticKD1991 10 месяцев назад
​​@@yesmansam6686Wait for the IRS to verify the fact that this dude has been commiting fraud which they 100% will. His words are worthless at this point. The evidence against him and his charity are damning and won't go away simply because he claims he didn't know.
@yesmansam6686
@yesmansam6686 10 месяцев назад
@LunaticKD1991 yeah, we should wait
@NeatChill
@NeatChill 10 месяцев назад
@@yesmansam6686I can judge them for not donating the money today, right now. And for lying about supposedly donating it to various charities. Regardless of the reasons involved, that is still 100% fucked up and someone is at fault for that, and they are the ones in charge of the business. The fault goes with them first.
@yesmansam6686
@yesmansam6686 10 месяцев назад
@@NeatChill oh, for sure. I know this is fucked. All I'm saying is, don't attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity. For all we know, this wasn't done with I'll intent, but gross incompetence.
@j_rock80
@j_rock80 10 месяцев назад
The IRS has been cut and under funded for years. The systems they use are ancient and haven't been updated in decades. I have a hard time believing they are able to look into every charity every year.
@ajwaddanwarr3409
@ajwaddanwarr3409 10 месяцев назад
Dude not the completionist...... he seemed like such a good dude. Really hope there is a good explanation for why, please don't let this be another wholesome youtuber turns out to be a douchebag scenario.
@TheJols
@TheJols 10 месяцев назад
tbh he always came off as phony as hell to me. Never thought he was a scammer but he seemed super influencery to me.
@jonathann4813
@jonathann4813 10 месяцев назад
Bro his side of the story is already in the video, what kind of explanation is ppl waiting for lmao
@sanc3375
@sanc3375 10 месяцев назад
He might be not the culprit, but he still responsible for negligence, he openly said that he knew about the issue and still the money has not moved to the charity.
@ryankelly3743
@ryankelly3743 10 месяцев назад
Your fatal flaw is thinking that since you like a youtube personality, it automatically means he/she is a good person
@SilverFang95
@SilverFang95 10 месяцев назад
Even Asmon has skeletons in his closet.
@JeererDaClown
@JeererDaClown 10 месяцев назад
Hes probably putting it into a savings account that builds interest. That way he's not "misusing" it but still making a profit.
@nsullivan9096
@nsullivan9096 9 месяцев назад
If i recall in someordinarygamer's / Mutahar's video he said there was no evidence it has been gaining any interest whatsoever. Its just sitting there. So it is Losing money even because of inflation. Its worth less than it would have been when it was originally collected.
@TheIndulgers
@TheIndulgers 10 месяцев назад
He states that he didn't know about 2/3 of a MILLION dollars for nearly a DECADE. That he only found out in 2022. No one is dumb enough to believe this. Even if true, why did he not publicaly state that they haven't found a benefactor? Why did he continue to proclaim that the money was going to these organisations and helping people? 125k of "expenses" and a decade without a single person being helped. Scumbag. That money could have help people that have since passed away.
@TP-pq9xx
@TP-pq9xx 10 месяцев назад
I mean, I doubt if we were truly just $500,000 away from the cure to Dementia. In all likelihood nothing would have changed.
@Reesezhatena
@Reesezhatena 10 месяцев назад
I think what’s makes this particular situation especially egregious is the fact that doing charity streams boosts the creators profile. While the completionist may not be finically benefiting he definitely is benefiting on a social standpoint. To me it’s clear the reason he kept doing these streams was to increase his profile. Further proving this point is his constant reference to where the money was “going”
@NeatChill
@NeatChill 10 месяцев назад
If he wasn’t financially benefiting, why not actually donate the money anyway? That way he still gets the social boost from running a charity. In fact he’d probably get more (yknow.. from the charities once they get real money) so yeah, doesn’t make any sense why he doesn’t… unless he’s financially benefiting from the money sitting there.
@captaincrunch1707
@captaincrunch1707 9 месяцев назад
That’s a great point as it adds another layer to his grifting of the gaming community. He probably got that gig at g4 Show reboot because of his clout chasing via charities. It’s really a genius strategy but I think Jirard is as dishonest as the day is long
@Avalon_1991
@Avalon_1991 8 месяцев назад
Pretty much why so many celebrities pick up a cause. It raises their profile so they can make more money for themselves.
@kstalia
@kstalia 9 месяцев назад
What I find baffling is him just not knowing if the money after the event was donated. You throw an event to raise the money, how would you not know if you gave it away or not?!
@bobbob679
@bobbob679 10 месяцев назад
Tax guy here. The only big flag I can see is that they took money and promised that the funds was going (not would go) to other organizations. It did not. Now they can say that they money was intended to go to the organizations, and that meant fundamentally the same thing. That is a much more debatable topic. But it sounds like they took the money, used it responsibly and filed everything above the board with the IRS (esignatures included).
@grilledleeks6514
@grilledleeks6514 10 месяцев назад
You being a tax guy let you see that really obvious shit eh?
@cobra4455
@cobra4455 10 месяцев назад
I can sort of understand their mentality if they look at $600,000 as not a lot of money for the long term legacy of the charity as an organization. But if they are trying to build a war chest to make a more sustainable charity then why aren't they at least putting that money into bonds or something. The value must have been eaten away by inflation for a large part of those 10 years. At the end of the day I feel the fundamental purpose of this charity is to preserve her legacy and the secondary is research. They probably realize in a quite selfish manner they can't keep the charity going with this amount of money.
@bobbob679
@bobbob679 10 месяцев назад
Yeah, I mean the filing for these returns are public. People should have know sooner. I would imagine if you are a business manager for a youtuber and want to work with this charity you should be looking this up. It is weird when people say things like they just kept the money. The organization that you gave the money to kept it. They are not legally required to give it over to those charities unless they promise to. The interest situation is weird too, because that money also stays with the charity and the youtuber cannot use this money for non charity related purposes.@@grilledleeks6514
@bobbob679
@bobbob679 10 месяцев назад
To be honest it sounds like something a third party set up for the youtuber and there was probably not much education on what is going on. I wonder if they though that accountant or manager was responsible for the money and they could just have them take care of it. 9 years gets to the point of being reckless with the money you are bringing in though. Every year he is signing a return for the charity and never asks about the status.@@cobra4455
@electromigue
@electromigue 10 месяцев назад
In Spanish we have the common phrase "No hagas cosas buenas que parezcan malas y malas que parezcan buenas" which according to a summarizer: It refers to the importance of honesty and transparency in our actions. It means that we should be truthful and transparent in our intentions and actions, and not try to hide our actions behind a deceptive appearance.
@NoahsGamingchannel
@NoahsGamingchannel 10 месяцев назад
His Dementia kicked in and forgot to donate the funds
@pickleman40
@pickleman40 8 месяцев назад
This guy did the same things but since he has more clout you won't hear a peep. Hope Karl and Muta prove me wrong.
@MarcosFMolina
@MarcosFMolina Месяц назад
If you discover that 10 years ago someone stole your money, and when caught they decide to return it, it’s not like they magically un-steal it.
@DCPTF2
@DCPTF2 10 месяцев назад
anyone ever heard of something called a Nest egg scam, this sounds like what that does, hoard money in a charity account for a few decades wait till everyone forgets who you are and what you are attached to, then withdraw all the cash and close down the charity account when it's safe to do so
@togosasquatch1920
@togosasquatch1920 10 месяцев назад
I remember when his sidekick Greg(think his name was) left the show for unknown reasons and wanted all videos with him in it deleted off the channel. Was Greg the hero all along?
@Elitex62
@Elitex62 10 месяцев назад
The Timeline matches up.
@rbmore3
@rbmore3 10 месяцев назад
either he is grossly incompetent, or he is trying to cover for somebody, (either himself or a family member) who has done something super duper shady. Several points in there, he starts to get upset at someone not involved in the conversation then fumbles back to oh uh uhm...
@PitH0und
@PitH0und 8 месяцев назад
Softgiving.
@QueekHeadtaker
@QueekHeadtaker 10 месяцев назад
Essentially, he was just stealing some of the money, and holding onto it in such a way that if anyone ever caught on, he would just say "oopsie, see I didn't steal it, see? The gold pile is still right here." Clever boy.
@SuperYtc1
@SuperYtc1 10 месяцев назад
Nothing clever about that boy at all.
@melvisyepez1114
@melvisyepez1114 10 месяцев назад
10% expense is very low... dude they have not donated any of the money, 10 years without doing anything
@ZenIsPower
@ZenIsPower 10 месяцев назад
I would imagine the reason he hasn't donated it because the money... isn't there... waiting on update
@grilledleeks6514
@grilledleeks6514 10 месяцев назад
Because he spent it. Yea. Sorry your inability to express yourself was getting in the way
@ahmadshah8175
@ahmadshah8175 10 месяцев назад
Exactly, the statement of accounts does not show the money is still there.
@WarlockLov3
@WarlockLov3 10 месяцев назад
This genuinely seems like the Completionist is just letting his brother or someone else control the charity while he’s the face. It seems like he has no idea what he’s doing.
@l01230123
@l01230123 10 месяцев назад
He said no one else was in charge of sending donations, so that couldn't be true unless he's lying. Source: 8:44 in Karl's video. Plus he admitted to knowing about the problem and ignored it for about a year, and lied about using charitable funds to support his event. He's openly lied and is keeping people's donations for 9 years, there's no way that's not intentional. This is obviously a bad situation he's caused and chooses to ignore/benefit from 🤷‍♂
@WarlockLov3
@WarlockLov3 10 месяцев назад
@@l01230123 thats a valid point. He might be trying to cover up something by taking part of the blame but idk. this all couldve been avoided if he just donated it to where they said they were donating it.
@Ele_Underscore
@Ele_Underscore 10 месяцев назад
Considering they never donated the money, I'd say 10% as administrative costs is relatively 100%. 100% of their costs in the past 9 years have been for administrative costs. I'd like to see a non-profit/charity who shares that same statistic
@emilymschoener9193
@emilymschoener9193 10 месяцев назад
My CPA father would agree with your logic but not your numbers.
@Ele_Underscore
@Ele_Underscore 10 месяцев назад
@@emilymschoener9193 good enough for me lol
@alenezi989a3
@alenezi989a3 10 месяцев назад
How did the 10% turn into 100%? They didn't charge the entire amount as admin charges, 10% are most likely for fund raising events and for the accountants doing their filing. As far as the whole situation is they didn't spend the money they just didn't donate it as promised which is pretty bad but not as bad as spending it.
@Ele_Underscore
@Ele_Underscore 10 месяцев назад
@@alenezi989a3 I said relatively speaking, since they haven't actually donated any money. The last 9 years 100% of expenses were administrative. It's not absolutely 100%(hopefully), as the money is reported to be accumulating dust, but it may as well be for all the good(or rather the lack thereof) they've done.
@driakos
@driakos 10 месяцев назад
So for 7+ years (i'm giving him benefit here) as Director of the charity, he never looked at the bank account? I .. I don't accept that as truth.
@iDriveAhondaCivic
@iDriveAhondaCivic 10 месяцев назад
People are trained animals. Well said Mr Gold.
@GNMbg
@GNMbg 10 месяцев назад
Ozmon Gold
@snazzydrew
@snazzydrew 10 месяцев назад
Asmongold gets it. There seems to be something very weird about this situation and Jiraad isn't going to tell us and it's probably some weird family stuff. Ya know, considering his brother is also involved in the organization.... and they donated their mother's body. I'm just picked up on something weird going on.
@firebat36
@firebat36 10 месяцев назад
They got caught red handed and are in the deny deny deny phase of things. 10 years of soliciting funds under false pretenses.
@l01230123
@l01230123 10 месяцев назад
There's nothing weird going on, it's just people desperate to rationalize negative behavior. He's a thief who stole from the suffering. He's lied multiple times, so there's no reason trusting his perspective anyways.
@ShoteR_Omega
@ShoteR_Omega 10 месяцев назад
The way it looks, his brother or father(the other directors) fooled him by making him believe that the money was being donated, he found out in 2022 and tried to cover it up. He seems to be covering for his brother to avoid having him being jailed or doing some damage control to his channel or reputation
@snazzydrew
@snazzydrew 10 месяцев назад
@@ShoteR_OmegaThat's a possibility. It's hard to know. Either way it's very messy definitely needs to be audited...
@snazzydrew
@snazzydrew 10 месяцев назад
​@@l01230123 holy shit calm down. this emotional energy is a big part of the problem to begin with. People gave money because they got emotional for a cause and didn't do any researched (once you get burned by a charity once you start doing your research). If the money is not spent, then it's hardly stealing. It's simply not using it correctly and adequately. But if it isn't spent, it can be used. Based on everything said, it seem like they might have wanted to donate the lump sum to a mad scientist to WILL find the cure, and it doesn't seem they were willing to donate to general research. Not saying it's smart, but it feel more like high levels of incompetence than "thievery". Y'all are just programmed to respond a certain way.
@mukst1o
@mukst1o 10 месяцев назад
The adm fees are absurdly high if you consider they aren't providing any services. Sure, 10-20% going to adm fees makes sense if your org is looking around to find the best places to send the money too... keeping track of how the money is used... organizing campaigns to get more money... websites, ads, etc... But if your org gets money mostly only from a yearly event... and the money just stays there forever... Who is being paid tens of thousands of dollars to do that? Aka: Who is being paid to do nothing?
@mukst1o
@mukst1o 10 месяцев назад
Idk... still sounds like burning money... Why would one keep paying this for 10 years just to keep the money there? It's probably like his brother's wife firm or something... And the expenses go from 6k in a year to 29k on another... I'm not american.. but if one has to pay 10 to 20% of their earnings just to do their taxes (not pay them) you need to change your tax system... If I pay that much to someone to do my taxes i would hope they help me save the same amount from how much the government is stealing from me Well, people will surely look at it... but i would be pretty surprised if all that is just sheer incompetence. And the fact that the money is sitting there (if it is, i doubt it) also means it was eaten by inflation... So, if someone donated $100 every year it lost 10% of it as "expenses" for 10 years.. this would have turned into what? around $40? plus 10y inflation... it woudl be valued around $30 i guess? Im not doing the math... but if a donation is worth 30% of the donated value... this is insane... and i cant believe it isnt illegal @Mundungus
@Areyassassin
@Areyassassin 8 месяцев назад
Welp this age well
@NeatChill
@NeatChill 10 месяцев назад
See the thing that gets me is: you can easily say “ok it’s bad you haven’t donated the money but at least they haven’t spent it” But.. money DEPRECIATES in value over time! Especially £100s of thousands of dollars sitting in an account doing nothing. Inflation is a thing. Time value of money is a thing. Due to their actions they could have easily lost money to charities of 10s of thousands of pounds, as opposed to having spent the money in a timely manner. This isn’t THEIR money to do that with, it’s the publics money that they have gotten hold of on false promises. In my opinion while it’s not outright stealing, it may as well be just as bad or just slightly better than it.
@OptimusSemper
@OptimusSemper 8 месяцев назад
This did not age well... LOL
@nickcrimten6213
@nickcrimten6213 8 месяцев назад
AsmonSoldOut
@barakobama8194
@barakobama8194 7 месяцев назад
What do you mean?
@ChocVanSwirl
@ChocVanSwirl 10 месяцев назад
I’m a fan of the FPS podcast and I’ve always felt like there was something amiss with his demeanor. That even further solidified when he proudly stated last week on the podcast that he “spent all weekend raising money for charity”. That really didn’t sit right with me. Now this…color me unsurprised. 🤣
@dark_winter8238
@dark_winter8238 10 месяцев назад
I am hoping they drop him from the pod. It's probably my favorite one right now but I won't listen if they let him back.
@radiantveggies9348
@radiantveggies9348 10 месяцев назад
My creep detector went off when he willingly joined G4
@DrawciaGleam02
@DrawciaGleam02 10 месяцев назад
Explain why 'spent all weekend raising money for charity” is a bad phrase please....
@dark_winter8238
@dark_winter8238 10 месяцев назад
@DrawciaGleam02 maybe you have not heard. His charity has not ever donated one cent in its 10 years of existence. The only money that has come out of the charity is administration fees.
@FoxerBoxerNaaniwa
@FoxerBoxerNaaniwa 10 месяцев назад
What I hope is happening is that Open Hands is holding the money and waiting for it to be eligible to be a restricted donation, meaning the organizations being donated to can’t just gobble it up in administrative costs or funnel it into a CEO’s paycheck, ensuring the money has to be attributed to very specific and ultimately more effective things like funding specific avenues of research or something. But! If that is the case then Jirard absolutely should have made that clear in the Indieland streams and not name dropped a bunch of orgs and explicitly stated that the money donated would immediately go to those organizations. He should have made it clear that the money was going to be held in an account and donated in one lump sum that would go directly to specific areas of research and aid.
@arturzinurov4781
@arturzinurov4781 10 месяцев назад
Bro said where the money is supposed to go for 10 years stop giving him the benefit of the doubt
@orthopedix6202
@orthopedix6202 8 месяцев назад
Softgiving, your calling this guy out...?
@mlsanders4800
@mlsanders4800 3 месяца назад
you're*
@AkagiRedSun
@AkagiRedSun 10 месяцев назад
The thing is he claimed he found about it 2021 and still ended up acting same way for 22 and 23 speaks volume that he is lying.
@bencurtis777
@bencurtis777 10 месяцев назад
Here is a more realistic version. The RU-vidrs brother was in charge of charity told him all these things. He found out but doesn't want to rat out his brother. Problem solved
@MuhammadKharismawan
@MuhammadKharismawan 10 месяцев назад
Might just be it, stopping abruptly would also be already suspicious for everyone. As the charity thing is already one of his main event. Better keep it quiet within the family until he can solve it, but people find out before he could.
@leventhumps3861
@leventhumps3861 10 месяцев назад
“We don’t touch any of it” (We’re working on a way to funnel it) “We just give it to the people that need it” (Us! We need it! It’s our money now!)
@VicerExciser
@VicerExciser 10 месяцев назад
I've never heard of this guy until he joined the Friends Per Second podcast on Skill Up's channel. I've always got a weird vibe from him and I couldn't understand why (looking like my intuition might have been right), he just did not fit with the other three at all. Regardless it's a great gaming podcast and I hope it sticks around even if they have to drop him. They have guest hosts all the time so maybe they can bring someone else in full time.
@OldManJ3nkins
@OldManJ3nkins 8 месяцев назад
I like how Asmon suggested they donate more than what they’ve taken in, and instead they donated less than what they had in 2022. I think that’s suspicious.
@KingGameReview
@KingGameReview 10 месяцев назад
Maybe they had the money in accounts and they were skimming the interest into a separate account? But I think you're right, best case scenario is just extreme incompetence.
@floodo1
@floodo1 10 месяцев назад
yes follow the money. It doesn’t take a lot of creative thinking to figure out ways to scam using a charity like this, given the evidence we have. Nothing says the Tax Return is even accurate … the IRS doesn’t even come close to catching all the inaccuracies in tax returns
@RamikinHorde
@RamikinHorde 10 месяцев назад
That would be tax fraud. You cannot skim interest into another organization/personal account and not report it.
@NeatChill
@NeatChill 10 месяцев назад
@@RamikinHordeyou can. You’ve just committed a crime if you do so. Maybe they have done that… and no one has picked up on it?
@dsadsadsadsadsa177
@dsadsadsadsadsa177 10 месяцев назад
Damn thats sad, when I was a kid I used to love watching him and jesse cox play horror games with scary game squad :(
@WoW3765
@WoW3765 10 месяцев назад
Am i old hasnt scary game squad just been going for a few years?
@dsadsadsadsadsa177
@dsadsadsadsadsa177 10 месяцев назад
@@WoW3765 I think it started with the PT demo which was 9 years ago
@nikolowolokin
@nikolowolokin 10 месяцев назад
​@@dsadsadsadsadsa177holy shit pt was that long ago???
@dsadsadsadsadsa177
@dsadsadsadsadsa177 10 месяцев назад
@@nikolowolokin Yeah man, I remember playing WoW with that video on my other screen, eating doritos and pizza...good times
@RobiePAX
@RobiePAX 10 месяцев назад
Scary Games Squad still occasionally plays games. I wonder what Jesse Cox will say about this charity discovery.
@StocksNShares
@StocksNShares 10 месяцев назад
I can't find any charity to take my money in 11 months. I guess the world is perfect now then.
@JesiAsh
@JesiAsh 10 месяцев назад
But... did he "PLEDGE" to donate them
@wanderingflame318
@wanderingflame318 10 месяцев назад
"you look like an asshole AND you don't get to enjoy the money." That killed me lol.
@Justintime2grow
@Justintime2grow 10 месяцев назад
I guarantee you that money was used. They most likely used it as collateral for business loans and they already said they had to use some but wouldn't say how much.
@murdendev
@murdendev 10 месяцев назад
This really hits me in the guts. Grandpa passed away from a very bad case of dementia progression this year…
@fenixfelixx
@fenixfelixx 10 месяцев назад
What a shame, maybe if Jirad the fraud actually funded dementia, the research would be further along potentially saving your departed loved one and other people's too, that's the real crime here.
@BoyoLoco-rd2fi
@BoyoLoco-rd2fi 10 месяцев назад
​@@fenixfelixxnice exaggerated social media reply. That will get the likes!
@l01230123
@l01230123 10 месяцев назад
@@BoyoLoco-rd2fi Oh no, someone said something accurate and fair. Time to be insecure and melodramatic about perception! 🤦‍♂ Just makes you look hypocritical and desperate for likes. Not the time to make assumptions and be rude. ✌
@bustywaifus
@bustywaifus 10 месяцев назад
The expenses shouldn't even be there at all since they also get funding to plan and do Indieland.
@shadowdante1102
@shadowdante1102 10 месяцев назад
My guess is that they are letting the money sit, and collecting the interest off of it.
@luske2
@luske2 10 месяцев назад
Yeah that's my guess too.
@bhe8336
@bhe8336 10 месяцев назад
There is no interest. The line item itself on the tax form says "non interest-bearing" cash.
@rileyboy10
@rileyboy10 10 месяцев назад
Your guess would be wrong then, because the video explains why that's impossible in this case. They couldn't put it into an account under tax exceptions if it was possible to gain interest on it.
@HyperMario64
@HyperMario64 9 месяцев назад
I found that perspective of having that "honor among thieves" very interesting. It reminded me of the original movie "Gone in 60 Seconds" (1974), where the criminals only stole insured cars. They always had that classy attire and acted like gentlemen outside. In some ways, it can be seen as some business where the core operation just happens to be illegal.
@Archonch
@Archonch 10 месяцев назад
10 years of lost time in research is such a waste. Imagine having seen someone close to you fall into dementia while that money was just being useless on some stupid account...
@onbored9627
@onbored9627 10 месяцев назад
Asmon keeps reframing it like the guy only pledged the money and failed to deliver. The CHARITY pledged it yes, then announced it had been given to those organizations. Over and over. It's much worse than him just not sending it personally. That's the most nefarious part. They lied when they said the money had ALREADY been donated, and it was still sitting in the bank. And they did this over and over for 10 years. It's not complicated.
@ToadstedCroaks
@ToadstedCroaks 10 месяцев назад
Jared trying to 100% Trump Charity Simulator
@charlesschlaepfer5534
@charlesschlaepfer5534 10 месяцев назад
Maybe they got dementia and forgot it was in the bank
@Acrylescent
@Acrylescent 10 месяцев назад
I'm not proud of how hard that made me laugh...
@apostatis
@apostatis 10 месяцев назад
made the joke before i got to
@fobbles_
@fobbles_ 9 месяцев назад
I can see the gap between when he learned about the money not leaving to places and the 11 months of it still being there. I recently got medical assistance for major depressive disorder that impacts my ability to work properly, and from the process of beginning asking where I go to file for that, to filing for that, to getting it. It’s been like a year and a half and a full year of working with the Mayo Clinic before that. And even after we sent off an application to the government it I got a call about it saying I’ll get a letter and a letter saying they were still working on it and to expect an answer within 6 weeks, and finally through actions of constant prodding through an advisor appointed by the county, I got accepted as disables after 3 to 4 months after getting that letter. It’s probably not fully equivalent to working for disability but I can see the time.
@Dj.MODÆO
@Dj.MODÆO 10 месяцев назад
The irs cant micromanage every charities financials. That money was being hoarded up as a retirement plan. He could pay himself 30-40k a year to manage that for 15 years
@firestorm5371
@firestorm5371 10 месяцев назад
In Germany the costs for administration and so, are allowed to be 50% at max with prof that it was spenden on these things. In short 50% has to go to the cause no matter what. In average 70%-80% of the donations go to the cause from German charities.
@leagueaddict8357
@leagueaddict8357 10 месяцев назад
Back in the day there used to be a charity, and a bunch of people started donating to that charity, and then they spend all that money on a bigger office.
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