Yu-Gi-Oh! Player Rates Magic: The Gathering Cards! 

I hope you all enjoyed! If I do this again, who should I have on, and what cards should I show them?

This was so much fun to do. Thanks for having me! MTG is a wild game fr

"draw a card every time your creatures are targeted up to twice a turn (per creature) and also cheat that card into play if it's a land" is such an obviously absurd effect I'm surprised it was even printed

"It sounds so convoluted..." Bruv. I've watched modern YuGiOh gameplay. Abyssal Persecutor is nothing.

In my experience Platinum Angel doesn't even get removed, it just ends up catching a stray from a board wipe that's dealing with a different player

hey, good video but nadus “twice each turn” clause is PER CREATURE, leading to a far better effect than that you described, with some simple token generation it wins you the game

"How do you even build a deck that is cohesive in 100 cards singleton?!" Wait untill he find out most people have dificulty making cuts when their list is at 120 cards.

One important point for Pact of Negation for a Yugioh player to understand as well is I would say is like Red Reboot that is kinda like an omni negate instead of just trap cards. Sure you can play it "fairly" by just using it as a counter when you don't have mana up and then next turn playing the 5 mana for it. But usually Pact of Negation is a free protection to counter your opponent trying to stop you making your game winning play or combo - because if they are dead the turn you play it you never need to pay for the 3UU mana next upkeep.

Starting out with the "Can't always wins" combo was a great call. Just the very core of why commander is dumb fun. Throw the game state into limbo and get it stuck there for a while.

Hi boss, don't forget, you can block flying with the keyword 'Reach' as well.

I can't believe a non player is reading the manga. This guy was goated from the start

Abissal persecutor is by far my favourite card in the entire game, and I've won so many games with it

Platinum Angel saved me once when I was 100% guaranteed to lose. I was borrowing a friend's deck to play before others arrived to our DnD session to pass the time. I was/am a new player and was told this is a rainbow deck, while my opponent played a mill deck. As you can imagine, I was mana screwed, until he played a card that made me draw half of my deck. That move put me at 7 assorted mana, just enough to play PA. His next turn, he took me to negative life, and milled the rest of my deck, but I couldn't lose and he didnt have a card to remove a creature from play. He ended up losing because he drew his entire deck one card at a time until he had no more. So I milled the mill deck lol

They SAY Abyssal Persecutor is bad, but... I once played against a lady who had been playing Magic since basically day one, running an absolutely absurd group hug deck. The other three of us were at each other's throats, when all of a sudden she destroyed the persecutor and all of us lost for different reasons.

that jump scare at 0:24 was uncalled for lol, great vid tho

For those who want a hilarious interaction with Abyssal Persecutor, watch the Shuffle Up and Play episode with Marcus, Spice, and Rhystic Studies. Remember, CAN’T always wins.

Abyssal persecutor in 60 card formats is wild as hell. Especially doing free play with friends. I ran mono black demons and I threw out persecutors turn 1 or 2 with dark rits and burnt offerings

38:34. Hive Mind! He was on the right track, but slightly different tactic!

Fun video, Vanta was really fun. For the fake cards remember to double check them; Deep Depression had a spelling mistake and Alexander has Custom Card written in the info

When he thought about workbarounds with body of research. He became an honorary cimmander player in my book

25:54 you stopped me dead in my tracks here, labeled as not only a bad person by others but now a degenerate too lmao

3:20 no, the true gamplay for this card is to give it you opponent and give an other opponent a Copy so you all are in the void there nobody can win and lose until on of the card is dead XD

I love videos like this! I love crossover TCG videos because it's so interesting to see what card effects are powerful/weak in certain games!

He sounds fun, lend him and annoying deck and introduce him to commander sounds like a great time

holy shit it's been years since I've watched Jay's videos! i remember watching his stuff on Pokémon X/Y when it came out!

Oh man this was awesome! I'm not super familiar with your or your channel but I will 100% be here to see more videos like this! I'm more familiar with 1v1 formats than commander but either way it was fun to see a player from another game get to experience the wildness of MTG design, and the "which card is not real" segment at the end was a super cool touch too!

Please have this guy on more more mtg content. He’s got a great attitude

Pact of Negation mostly sees play to protect combos. You don't have to pay 3UU if you win the game before your next upkeep.

"Into there graveyard" 🤔🤔🤔

The purpose of pact of negation is to protect your own wincon, if you pact you’re trying to win that turn so you don’t have to pay the 5…. Combo babyyyyyy

Man, I haven’t seen Vanta since the Pkmn days!😮 Nostalgia.

Haven't played Yugioh in forever but in regards to the singleton format one important thing when building a commander deck is there are so many cards with similar effects in MTG. So you end up with a lot of different cards but they all mainly accomplish the same goal. In a standard deck you would just find the best for whatever reason and put 4 copies and lose the rest.

You neglected to mention the infinite combo with Kroxa: Solemnity + Luminous Broodmoth + Kroxa. Those 3 in tandem create an infinite loop where it dies and is reborn immediately every time it dies. Also, the combo with cards like Stifle or Torpor Orb to stop it being sacrificed, in which case you've gained a 6/6 for 2 that can start triggering when it swings even if the initial discard trigger is countered.

Oh shit, I haven't heard Jay's voice in like 6+ years. Love the man

The moment I saw the Abyssal P i just KNEW you were a John player. Same here ^^

I love the crossover conversation. Especially considering the recent McDonald’s kids toys being a hello kitty x yugioh collab.

The Master Duel music in the background makes me want to go and play MD again, and then I remember the format we're in 😅 Great discussion btw, glad I found y'all ✌️

As a commander player, I think that would be better if these cards were in the context of a 1 v 1 format. Mostly because commander is so alien from other games.

If you think 100 cards is bad, I remember when Battle of Wits was the new hotness and there were people showing up with decks that were 4 copies of that and 250 islands.

The "Custom Card" part of the alexander the great card XD

The "which one is fake" segment was a really good idea, but please spellcheck ;)

Great video, I love when people do this. It's fun watching people learn magic real time.

Wanna know the worst part about Nadu? The ability that Nadu grants to each creature you control functions independently for each creature. Specifically, the ability can trigger twice each turn for each creature you control, not just twice total. Which means, if you have 2 creatures, you can trigger this 4 times, if you have 4 creatures, that's 8. And with all the ramping and cards you will draw, those numbers will quickly go beyond just 4 creatures on board.

Just got to the first one and i feel like you explained the card too much before Vanta made their decision. Cardmarket did this style of video too and I'd recommend explaining what you can do with a card after they make their decision. Makes for more of a "ahhhh i see" moment

We NEED vanta to play mtg

Abyssal Persecutor then Platinum Angel really set the tone for how this video is gonna go 😂

Even a Yu Gi oH player should be able to take one look at Nadu and know that it’s way too powerful, imagine if Exodia Solitaire had access to a card like that

great vid! I wouldve probably added that pact of negation is primarily used in combo decks! trigger doesnt matter if youve already won lol

I've seen a 4 way draw end with a platinum angel, a persecutor, and a board wipe.

doubling season + the ozalith + body of research = mass hysteria.

this was great fun! I love these sorts of videos. thanks to the two of you for making it!

X card game player rank/react to Y card game is my favorite type of youtube video

I would have also said that Pact of Negation is also used when comboing off where the next turn won't happen so it's just a free counterspell to protect the combo.

Talara's battalion is actually pretty good in elf-ball since you will often have 3 mana turn 2, and you can just drop a 1 drop elf followed by talara's. Though thats one specific deck.

i actually once did try to make a game state that cannot end. platinum angel, abyssal persecutor, that one anti sac angel, indestructible emblem and solemnity but with exile removal more prominent is it way less possible to lock down the game

WOOOOOW watching your video I discovered that Break Open has a translation error in my language and I always used it wrong XD Break Open in my language (Brazilian Portuguese) doesn't say "an opponent controls", and this is a big deal for me because when I was a kid I made a morph deck and had four of them to keep facing up my creatures without paying their cost, Lmao.

Body of Research + Simic Ascendancy = fun times

Choose how many ●Sideboard deck option. ●Mulligan hand option. ●March creature option. ●Borrow mana option. ●Attack left option. ●Attack right option. ●Attack both option. ●Attack single option. ●Attack multiple option. ●Attack across option. ●Shuffling deck option. ●Cutting deck option. ●Trait adjustment option. ●Equal footing option. ●Time out option. ●Final round option. ●Recurring card option. ●Thinning card option. ●Head start option. ●Come back option. ●Sealed pool option. ●Friend brew option.

3:30 i'm new to this channel, and VantaJay as well, but I would have provided more information: 6/6 for 20 life is like 3500/3500 for 8000 LifePoints, similarly a 4-mana card is like a "6-level monster that also require either a discard, or removing a card from the top deck or graveyard, or like 500 life points", which is a bunch but not so much. This way he can have better bridges from his knowledge and Magic-related knowledge.

Well the thing with Platinum Angel is cause of the tons of crit removals and sweapers in Magic that this card stays around one or two seconds before it is removed. Some opponents don't even care if you play it out on your turn, cause they know they can remove it easily in later turns. Pact of Negation on the other hand I only encounter it in the goblin charbelcher deck build nowadays, or most of the time.

"what they smoke when they desing that?!" XD that deserves the like! XD

initially I wasn't fond of the mtg collabs, but they're good at making the characters into cards, my favorites are the silver secret lair poneys, I'm not into mlp, but they're really neat, like the "your party is always full" for the party girl one

I love videos like this! I swear I've started hunting them down lol!

23:35 be spoilin' the guesses 😲

good video! I would explain why things are good or bad way simplier. Like a huge 60/60 token, you can just block it with a 0/1; pact of negation you can use all the mana in your turn and negate anything that is a meanance. you lose mana in upkeep, but the board was setup last turn. counters are not about using your mana efficiently/ negate a thing that costs more than your counter card. they just allow you to do your stuff, or make your opponents not do their stuff.

I love abyssal persucutor in commander not because its good but because its fun to watch players who are about to lose protect my creature to keep them from losing

Grammatical errors on Deep Depression caught my eye, otherwise with no knowledge of Magic I would have said it was real because that's actually a cool idea

Love all the new content!

Body of research in my kenrith blink deck would be hilarious 😂😂😂

Oh shit it's Famous Jaymus

Choose one ●Single elimination. ●Double elimination. ●Triple elimination. ●Single round robin. ●Double round robin. ●Triple round robin. ●Swiss. ●Dutch. ●Monrad.

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Extremely entertaining video, but a few points that came up while I was watching. To evaluate the strength of a card in commander can often times be extremely nebulous or unproductive, I think. It’s a casual format where a lot of players will value fun or social interaction over trying to win by any means and there are so many miserably bad cards in magic and most of them have some deck that they become broken in, or at least they get to do something cool. Unless it’s about something like cEDH of course. And to add on, the *real* crime of Nadu is not ramping and drawing two every turn, which on an already over-rate flying creature is still crazy, but the fact that it triggers off *all* your creatures elevates it to being completely unreasonable. Sticking a good landfall trigger or two on the field can very well go infinite with this and basically makes the “twice per turn” rule at the bottom meaningless. Not to mention it’s a non-deterministic infinite, it’s possible to whiff, making it so that a lot of players just won’t concede in the off chance the chain ends lmao. Either way, an incredibly stupid card.

I didn't think someone would mention "destroy all humans, they can't be regenerated". It's legitimately a very good manga series.

Deep Depression has so many typos XD

One the last 'real or fake' card, my first thought was also: Gotta be Link because Nintendo doesn't like to share. It's funny how that became his line of thinking too. Nintendo really has a rep for that. Like to me, it's crazy that Optimus Prime is in MTG, so I had a split second of doubt because Transformers really doesn't feel like it belongs in MTG, but Nintendo's rep for fiercely protecting their IP's is what convinced me it had to be Link. They might agree to it if there was an obscene amount of money involved, but I didn't wanna believe that WOTC would shell out for that for a promo card.

I have a deck on arena i havent touched in a while that is basically ramp into body of research and fling the token at my opponent for lethal. Its really funny to do it

More content like this!! I'm sure you're aware of other creators doing this type of stuff and the more content the better!

abyssal persecutor is a must kill in edh. I run it in mt cedh and it just slams with no real downside. Cuz' rememer, your opponents can't lose the game means that none of them can. besides, you just need to sac it once it did its job. but it will generally have been killed by your opponents before then yeah, so the real interest of pact of negation was to protect your combo. the cost doesn't matter, since you just win on the turn

As someone heavily against crossover cards, I feel the need to explain why. I had no issue with them doing joke or crossover cards while they were silver bordered and separate. It was cool to see. But I did have an issue when they brought them in to normal play. MTG isn't just a random card game where the cards just exist. MTG is a 30 year old running story. It has had lore and plotlines and characters built up over longer than many of its players have been alive. Now you suddenly have characters from fallout or my little pony appearing in a universe that they just don't fit with. It completely devalues the setting and is a clear window into the fact Hasbro is just milking all the money it can out of another franchise before it shrivels up and dies. Imagine if pokemon suddenly had cards with characters from skyrim on them. Or if doctor who was suddenly having canon crossovers with Warhammer 40k. Crossovers are a neat idea... as long as they remain separate from main canon and play.

Imagine if he heard about Titan in Modern with Amulet and making it a haste double striker.

Choose two ●Ante. ●Trade. ●Forbid ante. ●Forbid trade. ●Continue ante. ●Before trade. ●Keep ante. ●Between trade. ●Food ante. ●Public trade.

Body of Research is pretty bad in commander, but in modern domain decks it's not hard to give it hexproof and trample with scion of draco and haste through various means or just fling it for one more mana.

Considering Gut Shot exists, Lightning Exchange could totally be a real card and I would LOVE a copy in my Stella Lee deck.

As a Yugioh player also, my only intro into a card games is "Oh this card is cute"

Minimum deck size = ??? Maximize hand size = ?? Starting life total = ? Range of influence = ??? Number of player = ?? Number of teammate = ? Number of winner = ??? Restricted = ?? Banned = ?

i don't always speedrun a commander game. But when I do, I pact of negation turn “1” against an opposing sol ring.

If every games collabs, no one will be unique. There should be some boundaries

People love to crap on One With Nothing and it actually saw tournament play back when Owling Mine was in the meta! This is back when i was in college and I had an Owling Mine deck on old-school MTGO

Pact of Negation could easily be replaced by Fierce Guardianship for no downsides besides its higher cost as a single, unless you're playing a commander everyone will target. Blue could also plot or foretell a counter spell. I feel like Pact of Negation would be too risky for me.

Please get this guy in a commander game

Bro mentioned the mtg manga!

"Nintendo would never..." - go look up Cadence of Hyrule. They allowed them to use the Zelda IP, and Danny B's take on traditional Zelda music is amazing.

Didn't even mention that the "triggers twice per turn" is *per creature* , and resets if Nadu gets flickered.

48:35 There graveyard. Fantastic spelling.

i like to run platinum angel in my shadowfax deck. if i have any sort of buff on shadowfax i get to play plat angel for free, also body of research is great in decks with token doublers

Imagine a green/red Hulk deck! all green buffs hulk all red is hulk throwing shit at your opponent for direct damage.

golf clap for naming lightning exchange as the fake. as a dude with no magic knowledge that was clutch af.

Body of research is exactly the kind of thing I like. No way it's bad.

i think the best way explain why pact is good is ask: "What if there isnt a next turn?"