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Yup, same track ... Hyndman, PA and Mance Curve 4-2-86 

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We begin at Hyndman, PA at the foot of Sandpatch Grade and catch the Eastbound Capitol Limited crossing Wills Creek and passing the town.
Next we go up to Mance Curve where we see two hot trains heading upgrade, on the same track, with the second train nearly in the lap of the helper engineer on the first one.
I remember some good natured banter between the engineers. "Hey why don't you pull over and let a real train by?". and "Hey helper, do you have that thing in run 8 or in dynamics?" The dispatcher was referring to to them as "Chicago Trailer Jet" and "St. Louis Trailer Jet". ( I forget which one is which on the video.)
Not being very familiar with Chessie at the time, I don't know if these were the actual train designations or just colloquial names. Maybe a Sandpatch regular can leave a comment with the answer.
Anyway, the second train stopped while the first cut away his helper at the top of the hill. I just cut off of the second train where I did in the video because I couldn't stand any more of that abominable flange squeal.
Closing out the video, a mixed manifest train heads downgrade.
This and the Horseshoe Curve tape are from the same trip. For some reason I had bought two Scotch brand videotapes to use on that trip. Those have not held up as well as the rest of my VHS which are mainly Maxell and few Fuji. The colors had shifted etc.
I worked quite a while on both tapes, but the Sandpatch stuff really took a lot of work. I figured nobody wanted to see "Chessie System Green" instead of yellow.
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@jeffreymcfadden9403
@jeffreymcfadden9403 5 лет назад
the way chessie should be remembered. no re numbered locos. all pure. all chessie!
@U2rocksKEN
@U2rocksKEN 14 лет назад
I used to live along that line and I've never seen one follow that close either. I had to play it again also to make sure "he" was on the same track. Listening to the vid it sounds like they had to "get out" of the throttle a little...which would really be a momentum buster pulling that grade...col. Thanks for posting;
@NJT4111
@NJT4111 14 лет назад
That's fantastic! Classic railroading that, if happened today, people would be out of jobs. Thanks for sharring!
@yankinga
@yankinga 13 лет назад
@troy12n Grade signal: A permissive signal used along a steep climb and identified by both a number plate and a plate with the letter "G." The governing rule is usually that a full-tonnage train climbing the grade may pass a grade signal indicating stop without stopping. Grade signals are used to keep heavy trains moving under conditions where the stopping distance is greatly reduced by the hill and restarting would be difficult.
@donsgotmoney
@donsgotmoney 6 лет назад
Hard to believe that two trains shared the same track that close to one another!!!
@trainmanjosair
@trainmanjosair 13 лет назад
Now thats how u move trains back 2 back. I've never seen that before in my life and wish i could c that nowdays.
@BaltimoreAndOhioRR
@BaltimoreAndOhioRR 4 года назад
Great vid!
@tbfilms3427
@tbfilms3427 7 лет назад
This has got to be the closest I've seen 2 trains run to each other... And I've seen trains a lot closer together than most people have... Awesome video
@griffix01
@griffix01 14 лет назад
Pure awesome! I've never seen anything like it.
@yankinga
@yankinga 14 лет назад
@griffix01 I still remember my dad's comments at the moment when the second train rounded the curve and came into view: "Holy crap! Look at these cowboys!" Pretty much sums it up.
@DaCaptain924
@DaCaptain924 13 лет назад
wow, p3 horn on that 2nd chessie train. that's rare. nice stuff. :-)
@jimsutter149
@jimsutter149 3 года назад
Gotta love the Chessie paint scheme.
@Nbuilder1
@Nbuilder1 13 лет назад
Now that's a nice syncronicity.
@RollThunProd
@RollThunProd 13 лет назад
Oh, wow! Amazing horn on that F40PH
@EMDFAN1988
@EMDFAN1988 14 лет назад
Very nice! Awesome Chessie clips right there!
@McClain808
@McClain808 13 лет назад
anything with Chessie is cool by me, great video
@meccaturbo
@meccaturbo 13 лет назад
Can't understand how and why they'd allow two trains that close together.
@DJshekky
@DJshekky 14 лет назад
just awesome! watching this brings back memories-if that's the st louis trailer jet, i watched many of them go through my hometown.
@railfanallen
@railfanallen 7 лет назад
Right before the big Chessie and Seaboard merger.
@RDC_Autosports
@RDC_Autosports 3 года назад
yeah back in the day they did this quite a bit! i always thought they helped em then cut off or something
@PNWTrains
@PNWTrains 8 лет назад
Definitely one of my favorites! Great video with two epic K5LAs (Amtrak F40 especially) and a slightly fouled but still stellar P3. The two trains on the same track is something that should be played in a museum on a big screen. Ya just don't see this kind of stuff anymore! The last train just sounded really cool. Either the engine sounded like a horn or vice versa, but it just sounded really neat. Thanks for putting this awesome footage on RU-vid!
@SoFloRR1018
@SoFloRR1018 8 лет назад
Wow. I was born in 84. wish I could have seen some good Chessie action.
@jeffreymcfadden9403
@jeffreymcfadden9403 6 лет назад
chessie is sadly missed. that damn csx merger screwed chessie all to hell.
@cheechchongfan97
@cheechchongfan97 13 лет назад
What a nice K5LA on that Chessie train!
@gordonsnell6735
@gordonsnell6735 Год назад
Pretty cool 😎😎
@1500chessie
@1500chessie 11 лет назад
Hmmm,never saw this, as other guys comment not an usual practice.Ok the braking distance will reduce up hill,but is it enough is the question?So hat off!!!! Always fine to see these Chessie vids,it will live on ...thanks
@williamcap2236
@williamcap2236 Год назад
Looks like the train was carrying K cars !
@graugger5918
@graugger5918 5 лет назад
I'd like to see a video of Penn Central on the now abandoned PRR line that went through Hyndman.
@northernohiorailfanningpro8899
@northernohiorailfanningpro8899 3 года назад
Man those were the days... Thanks Hunter Harrison and PSR 🙄
@400exNick
@400exNick 13 лет назад
Nice video!
@b3j8
@b3j8 5 лет назад
Old School B&O/Chessie! And yes those were their actual train symbol designations. Chessie crews called signals long before other railroads even thought about it. They also still used the old 1or 2 letter telagraph calls for towers, block stations and waypoints. I miss that railroad! All that said, this too-close spacing would've been against the rules to do intentionally.
@garyhyndman3453
@garyhyndman3453 12 лет назад
Don't know how I ended up here ??? Never knew there was such a place.
@WarcraftHermit
@WarcraftHermit 12 лет назад
nice video!!
@TheZeke1974
@TheZeke1974 12 лет назад
That is crazy!!!!!!!!
@meccaturbo
@meccaturbo 11 лет назад
Chessie's C&O subsidiary would do this same practice on their mainline grade over Allegany summit in southern WV/VA...trains closely following, in the same block.
@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606
@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606 6 лет назад
meccaturbo CSX doesn't do that anymore instead they just put two trains together and use the locomotives from the second train as mid point DPUs, it's pretty interesting and the coal trains are huge over 200 cars two or three engines on the point and two DPUs in the middle cut, they run this configuration heading out of Hinton towards the big bend tunnel and Talcott east to Virginia
@KM3W
@KM3W 10 лет назад
"G" or "P" plate under the signal or not....he's going a little fast! Awesome stuff tho!
@troy12n
@troy12n 13 лет назад
Something is very wrong here with these 2 trains operating in the same block. I would like to hear a rational explaination from a railroader on how this was possible. I know this line and at the time, it was dispatched by train orders and ABS signals and those trains should not have been able to occupy the same block like that.
@rager522
@rager522 13 лет назад
@yankinga yes but it also requires restricted speed and I'd say thats a little bit faster LOL!
@Artines999
@Artines999 6 лет назад
@stansmith4054
@stansmith4054 3 года назад
What kind of cars were those on the car hauler?
@mmandmcb14
@mmandmcb14 12 лет назад
Is that Amtrak 312 or 262 at the beginning?
@woods840
@woods840 9 месяцев назад
Ah, the 80s. When men were men!
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