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Yves Saint Laurent Y edp vs Yves Saint Laurent Y le parfum | fragrance test 

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we are BACK with a battle between two superstars !
Yves Saint Laurent Y edp: www.amazon.de/Yves-Saint-Laur...
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Yves Saint Laurent Y le parfum : www.amazon.de/Yves-Saint-Laur...
Which fragrance will win this time?
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@rksto
@rksto 2 года назад
I think you should re-phrase the feedback question from "Why do you think its better" to something like "Why do you like it better" ....slight difference but it'll get people less thrown off by the sharpness of the first one and they'll be more open to elaborate on why they like the fragrance. Just my 2 cents.
@Abeiku1
@Abeiku1 2 года назад
You missed a chance to say "Just my 2 scents" ;)
@jmb2467
@jmb2467 Год назад
Woman don’t know why exactly they just like what they like
@jasonlsimmons
@jasonlsimmons Год назад
I agree, asking "why do you think it's better" could cause them to second guess their selection. Almost seems like you are giving them a chance to doubt their pick.
@heavenly81
@heavenly81 2 года назад
The match many have waited:) thanks guys as always
@deepharsh1381
@deepharsh1381 2 года назад
Thanks guys for this one . I was looking for this video.
@iFrankie.
@iFrankie. Год назад
I have both and we’ll EDP is fresher more inviting all season any time especially in heat. Le Parfum shines in more evening out and about times, night time wear and a showstopper
@jodyfresh3708
@jodyfresh3708 2 года назад
This was a versus battle I definitely wanted to see, YSL EDP was always legendary, but I'm glad it wasn't a complete blowout lol, great video guys 🤙🏿🤙🏿
@danielmontano7049
@danielmontano7049 2 года назад
I love you guys thank you for what you guys doing
@optimusbernd
@optimusbernd 2 года назад
La Nuit de L'Homme vs. Bleu Electrique would be quite interesting!
@segundocustodio7529
@segundocustodio7529 2 года назад
Nice video guys!. U are the best!
@dope2dropba141
@dope2dropba141 2 года назад
Thank you guys for comparing those. Well Done. In Future i hope to see ysl la nuit De lomme blu electric.
@jasonsullivan677
@jasonsullivan677 2 года назад
That would be a great video!
@ccfragrances
@ccfragrances 2 года назад
thank you 🙏 we will try our best 💯
@serinanaw932
@serinanaw932 Год назад
Its out there already in case i havent know yet
@vjakkapun
@vjakkapun 2 года назад
YSL Y EDP Is my most favourite on the line altho i think all of them are smell very good. 👍👍👍
@r3sianon975
@r3sianon975 2 года назад
Guys. Bring back some of the oldies and see how they do such as Chrome, Fahrenheit, Quorum, etc.
@terrysmiles8599
@terrysmiles8599 2 года назад
I like Y edt the best...lets see if it wins this contest...i guessed this before i watched......Nice Job Guys!
@machineo5
@machineo5 2 года назад
Hi loved this video guys! If possible can you do a street test of Aventus vs Elysium vs Layton? I think that would be epic!
@ccfragrances
@ccfragrances 2 года назад
thank you 🙏 we will try our best 💯
@Stifmeister1
@Stifmeister1 2 года назад
Great video guys! 💪🏻 I personally prefer the smell of Y Le Parfum, but they are both great!
@silveriofernandez257
@silveriofernandez257 2 года назад
Same
@sipsimies1588
@sipsimies1588 Год назад
Yeah, the edp is so sweet and fruity, smells way too feminine
@dierto
@dierto Год назад
Wich One Last longer ?
@giacomovincenzi2943
@giacomovincenzi2943 Год назад
No the edp sucks
@johnflowers2736
@johnflowers2736 Год назад
EDP is more of a Mature/Sophisticated Scent. That's the one I roll with as we speak 👍
@DrEffab
@DrEffab 2 года назад
I love your comparisons.. kudos
@ccfragrances
@ccfragrances 2 года назад
appreciate it 🙏
@Connor-Duncan5
@Connor-Duncan5 2 года назад
Please Test Yve Saint Laurent „La nuit de l‘homme edp against any other Winter/Fall Fragrance. (YSL „La nuit de l‘homme edp) is one of my Favorite Fall/Winter Fragrances.👌🏼
@vinnie1827
@vinnie1827 2 года назад
Wow I was waiting for this since a year haha
@vezz9913
@vezz9913 2 года назад
bleu electrique vs Y EDP would be a really good video considering the hype behind bleu electrique
@ccfragrances
@ccfragrances 2 года назад
We will try our best
@7860092
@7860092 2 года назад
Even if electrique wins, y edp would still be better as ysl y edp has more longivity, beast performance and projection etc.. ysl y edp has it all!
@canozcolak650
@canozcolak650 2 года назад
Don't forget my friend. Girls will always prefer sweet one.
@macadonis9242
@macadonis9242 2 года назад
Great video. I love the short collar biker leather jacket at end of video man..what brand and where did you get it? Looks awesome!
@ccfragrances
@ccfragrances 2 года назад
thank you very much 🙏 the leather jacket is from All Saints 🔥
@macadonis9242
@macadonis9242 2 года назад
@@ccfragrances very sharp..figures they make great jackets. Your videos rock!
@navjot749
@navjot749 2 года назад
so y edp is still the king, cant thank u enough ,you are the one of the few youtubers who really listen to the comments .
@mixedpleasure4324
@mixedpleasure4324 Год назад
In this battle maybe but parfum is the better fragrance
@stevenvialpando8365
@stevenvialpando8365 2 года назад
The Edt is just eud de toilette? But in a black bottle?
@mikerihm
@mikerihm 2 года назад
Can you guys please do a club de nuit intense man street review to see what people think of it?
@cholchet2844
@cholchet2844 2 года назад
Between EDP and Le Perfume likely In any area it base on wether , such my Country 30-37 degree under sun , so EDP is not smell long until 6 hour for EDP , but Le Perfume can be 12 hour . Love YSL 😍 Manly
@x__ace
@x__ace 2 года назад
How is the projection of parfum
@link2440
@link2440 2 года назад
I wonder if you could do a battle of 3? Parfums against each other and EdTs and EdPs against each other. Like Bleu de Chanel Parfum against Y Parfum against Sauvage Parfum. Things like this…
@canozcolak650
@canozcolak650 2 года назад
These 3 Titan must be in the collection.
@adalberthfulop1938
@adalberthfulop1938 2 года назад
Witch perform better?
@spaztekwarrior
@spaztekwarrior 2 года назад
Love your outdoor Fußgängerzone battles. :) I love both of these but slightly prefer the Parfum which I recently tried out. Greetings from 🇨🇦 :)
@ccfragrances
@ccfragrances 2 года назад
greetings back from Germany 🇩🇪🙏
@joshnreviews9988
@joshnreviews9988 2 года назад
3:23 “Why do you think it’s better?” “I don’t know because it smells better” 😂haha
@faliq8
@faliq8 2 года назад
This is true. Not everybody can say "ohhh bergamot top, and wow sage base". What matters most is how good the smells is :)
@Matt_corns
@Matt_corns 2 года назад
Perfect answer.. just honest
@dextermorgan2117
@dextermorgan2117 2 года назад
Well yeah 😂
@onpoint357
@onpoint357 Год назад
But guys when it comes to fragrance your own opinion is the BEST opinion. More prettier women around the corner might say the other YSL smells better 🤣🤣
@GuiltyNoticer
@GuiltyNoticer 2 года назад
Le parfum is far superior.
@vlogtheory4016
@vlogtheory4016 2 года назад
Hi saw your videos and wondered if you could do some on the Bvlgari Aqva line. Particularly Bvlgari Aquva Marine OR atlantique. Both are fresh fragrances and you don’t see many videos on them
@paw1ak_248
@paw1ak_248 2 года назад
Date for men vs Eros.. I think it will be a hard battle.
@aalamite
@aalamite 2 года назад
Ysl y edp is my signature perfume…my gal loves it on me…havent tried le parfum but i will certainly give it a try once my edp juice gets down..
@Jason.cbr1000rr
@Jason.cbr1000rr Год назад
Is it a summer perfume or do you just wear it all year? As a signature
@aalamite
@aalamite Год назад
@@Jason.cbr1000rr its a all weather perfume..
@Jason.cbr1000rr
@Jason.cbr1000rr Год назад
@@aalamite okay thanks.
@veganchiefwarrior6444
@veganchiefwarrior6444 2 месяца назад
I didnt like the edt it had some weird smell to it, are the edo and parfum better?
2 года назад
Y EDP is still the best. Great video cc.
@rippedup4546
@rippedup4546 2 года назад
Before I watch I'm going to say le parfum will win
@Kingwill-oy4xo
@Kingwill-oy4xo 2 года назад
I have the EDP but tried the parfum version out of tester and I like it a little better.
@Turtlemilk
@Turtlemilk 2 года назад
Which one is sweeter ?
@LightForxes
@LightForxes 2 года назад
@@Turtlemilk Y EDP
@mdv3435
@mdv3435 Год назад
@@Turtlemilk I personally would say Le Parfume. Its warmer imo
@yourfoodforthought
@yourfoodforthought Год назад
@@Turtlemilk I skin tested both and the EDP was way too sweet. It almost smelled like a women’s frag imo. The parfum was a no brainer purchase in my personal testing experience.
@Tommy-zu6vb
@Tommy-zu6vb 2 года назад
Could you do more niche brands? For example, PDM Layton vs Mancera Cedrat Boise? Mancera Cedrat Boise is a compliment bomb for me - gives me more compliments than Layton, La nuit de l'homme and Ultra male
@ccfragrances
@ccfragrances 2 года назад
We will try our best🔥 superstar niche fragrance battle is coming soon
@Tommy-zu6vb
@Tommy-zu6vb 2 года назад
@@ccfragrances Amazing! - can't wait 🤩🔥
@Mohammed_Alameen
@Mohammed_Alameen 2 года назад
If i have to choose one of them what do you advise me
@mixedpleasure4324
@mixedpleasure4324 Год назад
Parfum especially if you are over 25 but the best for you to do is try them out for yourself
@troypeylouret
@troypeylouret Год назад
No matter what brand of cologne it is. I always buy the edp versions over the edt versions.
@bennyblanco2379
@bennyblanco2379 8 месяцев назад
Bro theyre Both no edts 😂
@dannyphantom6006
@dannyphantom6006 6 месяцев назад
I own both. I’m 39 and much prefer y edp. Straight beast mode. Le parfum is good just toned down and either I go nose blind or idk feel it don’t last near as long
@joshuadoty3275
@joshuadoty3275 2 года назад
Edp for me. Great clean smell. Just too many better options available for warmer scents compared to La Parfum. Keep up the great work guys! Much Appreciated.
@ccfragrances
@ccfragrances 2 года назад
thank you very much 🙏 we will try our best 💯
@joshuadoty3275
@joshuadoty3275 2 года назад
@@ccfragrances after trying le parfum on my skin it was really nice and I did enjoy it. It is good. Thank you guys for doing the great work you do. Love it. We really need someone in the states doing this. Taste seems to vary greatly from country to country.
@x__ace
@x__ace 2 года назад
Which batch of do u have . I have 2022 but it doesn’t project well
@JGreer11
@JGreer11 Год назад
What you recommend
@ms13626
@ms13626 Год назад
Like Prada Luna Rossa Black
@etlproduccionesedgartipola9686
@etlproduccionesedgartipola9686 2 года назад
Genial está video
@eminavc3982
@eminavc3982 2 года назад
Is there something wrong with the performance of Y Edp? I literally smell it for 4 hours and after that it’s gone
@LA-st6dq
@LA-st6dq 2 года назад
Don't rely on if you can still smell it but if others can smell it, your own nose can quickly or at last after some time make you blind, especially if you keep on smelling on your arm or its projecting heavily from your neck/chest to your nose.
@chandracox6814
@chandracox6814 2 года назад
You've become anosmic to it.
@legodestroyer11
@legodestroyer11 2 года назад
I smell it on me all day and it stays on my clothes for days
@andrewpayne3298
@andrewpayne3298 2 года назад
i prefer le parfum as i find it less sweet
@yiwei-cheng
@yiwei-cheng 2 года назад
Several days before, I watched a video that said YSL Y EDP can compete with Dior Sauvage or even better. Today I just buy YSL Y Le Parfum, after smelling it, I don't think it can be compared to Dior Sauvage. I definetely like the latter one more😭😭
@joeschmidt6597
@joeschmidt6597 2 года назад
ALWAYS sniff test on your skin first at the store if you can or buy samples online. Don’t fall victim to RU-vid reviewers who are either collaborating with these brands/websites or making videos with ‘controversial’ takes for views and that YT ad $$ + running discount codes and receiving a cut of every sale that uses the code, usually 10-20%, on top of already pulling a “collab fee”. They often always have a financial interest in saying some shit to get you to depart with your money - regardless of what they say about being honest and not receiving a paid promotion or whatever. How would you *actually* know anyway? I go with Aaron Terrence Hughes for reviews he’s the best reviewer bc these other people are just paid spokespeople no matter what they say
@hammothw4814
@hammothw4814 Год назад
.....you said the EDP can compete, but you bought the Le Parfum version.
@yiwei-cheng
@yiwei-cheng Год назад
@@hammothw4814 I have tried both, they are similar
@hammothw4814
@hammothw4814 Год назад
@@yiwei-cheng they smell fairly different to me.
@yourfoodforthought
@yourfoodforthought Год назад
Parfum puts EDP and Dior Sauvage in the dust imo. Best smelling frag I’ve came across yet. I was using Prada Black and BDC and I don’t even touch those barely anymore since I bought Y Le Parfum.
@juka.parfum
@juka.parfum Год назад
2022 and 2023 batches of EDP still strong? Or reformulated and got weaker?
@plantradingprofit7814
@plantradingprofit7814 4 месяца назад
good question Im wondering the same thing myself, as they get more mass Appeling the more likely for this to happen
@albertcastro409
@albertcastro409 2 года назад
Which one is stronger ? I want to buy me some 🔜 !!!
@ccfragrances
@ccfragrances 2 года назад
YSL Y edp
@dannytetreault
@dannytetreault Год назад
Where is this shot? Germany? Netherlands?
@ccfragrances
@ccfragrances Год назад
Germany
@lordsoft12
@lordsoft12 2 года назад
Y le parfum .. the best .. very masculin
@iago7884
@iago7884 2 года назад
Wants is the perfomance about Y edp ?
@ccfragrances
@ccfragrances 2 года назад
over the average with 8 hours 🔥
@nikko7507
@nikko7507 2 года назад
Y Le is the ultimate fragrance, very masculine. Better longevity & performance , plus ultimate compliments 💯
@jaybishop8068
@jaybishop8068 2 года назад
Better longevity? I bought 2 different batches of Le Parfum and neither lasted over 5 hours on clothes. If yours lasts long tell me the batch code. I do love the smell though.
@mixedpleasure4324
@mixedpleasure4324 Год назад
@@jaybishop8068 People have different skin type dude
@jaybishop8068
@jaybishop8068 Год назад
@@mixedpleasure4324 I’m not talking about on skin, I’m talking about on clothes dude.
@dudusolum
@dudusolum 2 года назад
the second woman is wonderful
@TheDimGhostRider
@TheDimGhostRider 2 года назад
La Nuit De L’Homme vs Bleu Electrique
@link2440
@link2440 2 года назад
Not even close! Bleu Electrique is hands down winner and better performance.
@TheDimGhostRider
@TheDimGhostRider 2 года назад
@@link2440 I mean the original la nuit. i’m sure they have it
@budapest5579
@budapest5579 2 года назад
Maybe like sieben or eight
@jayd87
@jayd87 2 года назад
Edp for sure
@robertogaeta3704
@robertogaeta3704 2 года назад
People obsessed with ranking best fragrances at 8.
@kiefervandenberg
@kiefervandenberg 2 года назад
Interesting a lot of fragrance youtubers prefer the le parfum
@VEOdev
@VEOdev 2 года назад
Just because they got tired of smelling the EDP so when you give them another perfume that smells good they always chose it, like when they say blue electric is better than the original la nuit de l'homme when this is not true each one have it own uses, never trust youtubers review usually they are used to smell high quality perfums and they smelled a lot of them to the point when they don't care about the smell anymore they just look for the quality and try to give a proffesionel review and not a personnel preference review
@mixedpleasure4324
@mixedpleasure4324 Год назад
@@VEOdev Just stfu Parfum is better so why wouldnt they say it if thats how they feel I definitely feel the same way edp is good imo its a 7.5 but the Parfum is a 9 to me
@bangbambang1387
@bangbambang1387 9 месяцев назад
Just my hypothesis after watching 2 different content creator with same video title. 1. The edp ver is better in a colder area temperature. And the le parfum ver is better in higher temp. 2. Based on women personality, edp is better with strong character women, they don't get annoyed by the stronger smell, but liked it. A calm women would rather like the le parfum ver because it's not too strong
@krispybowgod9656
@krispybowgod9656 Год назад
There are so many flaws in these tests. I understand why you would compare these, but you are comparing just their openings on paper strips. Usually a parfum will have more layers and they won’t even get a sense of the base notes yet
@nunchucknads3644
@nunchucknads3644 2 года назад
Tried out Y Le Parfum at Bloomingdale’s in NYC and the price is over $150 with taxes. Ridiculous. On discount websites, the price is still over $120. I get that there’s inflation globally but this is too much.
@steven5096
@steven5096 2 года назад
Just bought y le parfum for 160us$ its a great fragrance, don’t be cheap
@brendonqazimi8916
@brendonqazimi8916 Год назад
In germany you can find it for 74€ with discount codes ( 100 ml)
@quaylonlewis4328
@quaylonlewis4328 Год назад
Well just get the 200 ml for 215.2 bottles in one for 35 extra bucks
@f1playlist308
@f1playlist308 6 месяцев назад
200ml for €120 these days. Good price if you ask me
@syedmushtaqnaqvi6847
@syedmushtaqnaqvi6847 5 месяцев назад
Which one is less sweet?
@BETA-zd1mv
@BETA-zd1mv 3 месяца назад
Le parfum is less sweet than EDP
@megselv6633
@megselv6633 Год назад
Smell-wise I give a tiny edge to Le Parfum, but EdP seems more projecting to me. So overall, EdP is the better deal for the money imo.
@krispybowgod9656
@krispybowgod9656 Год назад
Really depends what you are looking for. Some people really value beast projection. I work in an office and can sometimes appreate nice sents with a closer proximity. Depends on the situation
@megselv6633
@megselv6633 Год назад
@@krispybowgod9656 For sure. However, usually you can control the projection by using fewer sprays, or sprayer further away from the body. VERY few perfumes has too much projection with only one spray.
@santtumarttinen5759
@santtumarttinen5759 10 месяцев назад
​@@megselv6633mancera red tobacco and sauvage elixir are good for office
@finnrobson3081
@finnrobson3081 9 месяцев назад
This is bare facts. Le parfum is superb in the dry down but it's already came much closer to the skin by then
@Damian-lr3mt
@Damian-lr3mt 2 года назад
Y edp is the best 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
@x__ace
@x__ace 2 года назад
Which one is better projection wise
@ccfragrances
@ccfragrances 2 года назад
Y edp 🔥
@x__ace
@x__ace 2 года назад
@@ccfragrances thanks mate
@steven5096
@steven5096 2 года назад
@@x__ace all edp and edt will have a better projection, because of the alcohol concentration! But the parfums have the best longevity
@mixedpleasure4324
@mixedpleasure4324 Год назад
@@steven5096 And it smells better
@ParfumJunkie1904
@ParfumJunkie1904 2 года назад
Nice ✌✌👏👏👏👏👏👏🤩👍⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
@ccfragrances
@ccfragrances 2 года назад
thank you 🙏
@jimmymcwatters4182
@jimmymcwatters4182 2 года назад
Great review boys! I own Y EDP and I just remembered I wore it last week and received an unsolicited compliment. It's a banger! Shout out from Costa Rica ✌🏽
@ccfragrances
@ccfragrances 2 года назад
thank you very much 🙏 greetings from Germany 🇩🇪
@diegocbarrera3216
@diegocbarrera3216 2 года назад
👏✌️
@omarshehab585
@omarshehab585 9 месяцев назад
No matter which parfum they go with, I want what he gets out of his pocket.
@lpatron8037
@lpatron8037 2 года назад
Sauvage Elixir vs Bleu de Chanel edp please bro ⚘❤🌹
@ccfragrances
@ccfragrances 2 года назад
we will try our best 💯
@zjaranyjoe7456
@zjaranyjoe7456 2 года назад
8
@giacomovincenzi2943
@giacomovincenzi2943 Год назад
Le parfum totaly
@rafaywali6876
@rafaywali6876 2 года назад
Dylan blue vs eros would be great
@5iveoceanshells
@5iveoceanshells 2 года назад
Dylan Blue would easily win
@paw1ak_248
@paw1ak_248 2 года назад
Yeah
@paw1ak_248
@paw1ak_248 2 года назад
@@5iveoceanshells No 😆 Eros always won vs Dylan Blue...
@David_DY
@David_DY 2 года назад
So 8 really means 10! 😲🤣
@xool
@xool 2 года назад
Booo le parfum all day
@Itspatrikoo
@Itspatrikoo Год назад
Why would u choose B ? Her : “my English very bad “
@aaronnava6939
@aaronnava6939 Год назад
The 2nd girl 🥵🥵🥵🥵
@nelsonss3200
@nelsonss3200 Год назад
8 so you liked it
@josephhetzenauer1890
@josephhetzenauer1890 6 месяцев назад
The Le Parfum was too sweet and fruity too me.
@jasondeblou6226
@jasondeblou6226 2 года назад
idk why but the edp makes me nauseous
@stax3511
@stax3511 2 года назад
Damn first girl had cakes 😩
@terrwes2807
@terrwes2807 2 года назад
One million lucky vs stronger with you
@heersareofficial8272
@heersareofficial8272 Год назад
Why only make ladies review why not men too?
@jasonnicole5598
@jasonnicole5598 2 года назад
How tall are you guys? Looks gigantic
@ChomikNL
@ChomikNL 2 года назад
2m
@jasonnicole5598
@jasonnicole5598 2 года назад
6m
@Turtlemilk
@Turtlemilk 2 года назад
8m
@Therealtopg420
@Therealtopg420 2 года назад
? Just say 9’8
@ZA-co9vj
@ZA-co9vj Год назад
Edp smells sour and sharp to me. ☹
@xotilweoverdose7736
@xotilweoverdose7736 2 года назад
Y Edp= headache
@Smiley3897
@Smiley3897 3 месяца назад
Thats why we spray only 3 sprays its very loud and sexy and is made pretty much to be attention grabbing
@scoot5642
@scoot5642 2 месяца назад
@@Smiley3897 it’s not really how loud, it’s the sharp sweetness from apple note. gives me a headache from the get go and throughout. le parfum is the same but much less and the dry down is amazing
@Smiley3897
@Smiley3897 Месяц назад
@@scoot5642 tbh i loved the apple note and i think y edp is amazing but its all opinions after all
@scoot5642
@scoot5642 Месяц назад
@@Smiley3897 yep 👍🏼 that’s why there’s hundreds of frags and not just one. the apple note is what makes ysl y…. ysl y u know? but i can’t stand it, gives me a massive headache
@Smiley3897
@Smiley3897 Месяц назад
@@scoot5642 personally i live sweet fragrances so yeah i understsnd
@anselmoa8352
@anselmoa8352 Год назад
I bought Le today $180. Smells good and I know I wont smell like the rest of you cheap bastards. I prefer the EUT over EDP though.
@Highwayzero
@Highwayzero Год назад
French parfums only : JPG Le Male Le Parfum, Ultra Male and Chanel Allure Sport … the rest is crap! Italians perfumes rules !
@kazvenson
@kazvenson 2 года назад
I have the Le Parfum and it smells REALLY good. Love it! But i haven't smelled the Edp and now I'm curious 🙆🏻‍♂️
@Louis-qu2cz
@Louis-qu2cz 2 года назад
same
@Auto_Occasion_Live
@Auto_Occasion_Live 2 года назад
I smelled the 2 frags , le parfum is by far the best, edp smells like soap eau sauvage
@cole4249
@cole4249 2 года назад
@@Auto_Occasion_Live edp is better imo more for younger guys
@thegoodfoke3606
@thegoodfoke3606 2 года назад
get the edp they both smell good, i use y edp for daytime and y le parfum for nightime, the edp projects way more while the y le parfum doesnt project as much ( it is expected since it is a parfum ) but last more on skin maybe 2 to 3 hours more than the edp.
@Louis-qu2cz
@Louis-qu2cz 2 года назад
@@thegoodfoke3606 Le Parfum does project way heavier than EDP
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