Zangief (Pony) Owning top players who are using top/mid tier characters. Its nice to see someone beating opponents because of their skill and knowledge instead of their characters being top/mid tier
I've grown to love Zangief as a player over the last decade. One of my favorite incarnations is the Z-Man in Capcom vs SNK 2. The N-Groove dodge maneuver is Zangief's best friend, since pretty much any heavy attack or well-timed fireball dodge = instant Spinning Piledriver or even Super Piledriver! His Flying Powerbomb is great, too.
Beautiful spinners at 1:05, 2:10, 2:53, 5:35! Great comeback against Cammy, she is a good counter to Zangief. Man, that spinner at 5:06 looked like it was from 5 inches away! Loved how he used the running grab against Dhalsim, which is an important weapon! Another great thing I saw was Pony's mixing it up, sometimes jump attack and just grab, other times 1 tap, 2 taps, etc. This is also very important for Zangief players to use! Also, some of those spinners against Balrog were ridiculous!
With this performance Pony qualified for the quarters finals of X-mania. He later had to fight Otochun (Best Chun-Li player in Japan) and lost. You can see that match in my video similarly named "ChunLi Owning (Taikou 2002)"
Damn man, the first round of the second Dhalsim fight was amazing. With all of those yoga fires and far reaching limbs, he still managed to come out on top.
If you're wondering about input, only a 270 is necessary (numpad directions would be 6321478) so if you press the buttons just as your stick reaches the top you'll do it before you're in the air.
SPD has a 1 (60 frames in 1 second) frame start-up. SPD has v.good range (distance Gief can grab you from) ST system allows Gief to put characters in block stun (No. of frames your held in block position before they can move) and then SPD before they can jump away. Charge characters (No. of frames needed before the special move can be executed) are F@*ked if they get floored and their anti-air special isnt ready. Pony is one of the best Gief players in the world, knows all the match-ups.
hmmm, i just noticed there that the bridge is really thin in the center...wonder whats stopping it from breaking into a million bits when gief piledrives someone >_>
Stupid question but is the spd motion the same in SF2 as it is in SF4 and 5? The super too? And it seems like a tick spd is guaranteed in this game no?
Not guaranted, you can reversal with few specials move such as Shoryuken or Somersault. And it's the same yup but you don't need to do the full circle motion, you can do the 3/4 of it forward or backward.
The Ken player in the second match was a real trooper. The match after that one with Cammy got close at the end, but they got nervous and made a fatal error in the end.
In Japan the boxer was based on Mike Tyson and given a similar name (M.Bison). When SF2 was released in Europe/USA, Capcom decided to change the names to avoid any copyright infringement. In Europe /USA the boxer = Balrog, Claw = Vega and Dictator = M.Bison.
maybe thats because i don't post vids on youtube and don't have access to live. so let me get this right......in order to be good at something, you have to have a name. by all means carry on brother, your attemps to get me angry are working as a form of coffe as i finish drawing this pic, you're entertaining me and i thank you for that.
Yeah, but Pony is beating up known tourney players in that video. All his enemies know exactly what they're doing and it's incredible that he's reading right through it. I mean, I'm a Zangief player too, but the way Pony plays is just godly. Zangief is so slow on his feet and while jumping, you literally have to be perfect to beat really good opponents.
scratch that last part, if you hold start and select the new challengers, you get the old characters. But still, vega's wall dive is programed wrong, o. sagat's tiger shots have more recovery on them, ken sim and N. sagat can reversal super, and etc. Its not ST by any standard, but it's still fun.
@blackfreakm (Final atomic buster)= make a circle with the joystick and press any punch. the shortcut to executing this move is to make only 3 quarters (540 degrees) of the motion
Since you obviously can't debate this point without turning it personal, I'll simply say you're right about me not understanding zoning or what you mean by that and kudos to the Zanfief player for beating such a hard character twice in the same video.
Well...if you must know...Balrog is suppose to be M. Bison because in the Japanese version of older Street Fighters, he is technially suppose to be a clone Mike Tyson. But since that name was already taken, it was changed in the States due to copyrights, not to mention it would confuse people. Because of this, Vega was renamed Bison and the spanish ninja is renamed Vega in the U.S. Their original names in every Japanese arcade will always be Bison (Boxer), Vega (Dictator) and Balrog(Ninja).
@blackfreakm SPD (Spinning pile driver)= make a circle with the joystick and press any punch. the shortcut to executing this move is to make only 3 quarters (270 degrees) of the motion
People who play mid/high tier characters don't win with skill? Thats news to me! But Pony rocks and this was a fantastic display on his part. I love his matches.
Because the Spinning Pile Driver is still very hard to pull off while you're being attacked. It takes great skill to do it as accurately as Pony does here (such as while walking forward and defending against a possible fireball/sweep/Shoryuken). And Zangief's striking range is short in this game. He's ranked higher in the Alpha/Zero series.
M.Bison was Balrog's original name in the Japanese version. During the time of the games original release, Mike Tyson threatend to sue Capcom for using a likeness to his name and persona without his permission, so Capcom opted to change the names around and gave Balrog his name in the version released to the United States.
Pony's Zangief is a legend because we haven't seen you dominate the rankings in the Japanese tournaments like he has. That is the only reason. We can't really take your word for it, unless you have videos and a name that you got to tournaments with. To not know pony is very odd, to say the least.
That would be insane. considering how Zangief is low-tier in ST and Pony beast so hard with him. Zangief is, at this point considered the second best character in SFIV. So Pony would be near unstoppable
Tick Throws, M-Kick pokes, reversal baiting, etc. very nice. But in HD Remix if you SPD you land far from each other, and you can't get back in time to safejump...
the combo, after jumping middle kick n low middle kick n SPD that is though knowing what's next but can't do anything its grapple movement has some kinda range
More like Gief's hardest matchup period. E Honda is also a pain, in my experience. But it's like every Sim move is made to fight a Gief. He can even teleport from the corner..
... he's buffering in the SPD while he does other actions, such as the kicks. SPD is actually extremely easy to pull off once you practice it a bit and in this version of SF, it has a bit of range.
Yes, and you can see what a miserable time even Pony would have against Dhalsim and Cammy. Those who say Zangief is overpowered, don't actually play Zangief. Pony just guessed his opponent's moves incredibly well.
Not true. Dhalsim has the throw speed and priority to reverse-throw Zangief; it's just difficult to time, especially if the Zangief player mixes it up with jabs and roundhouse trips. Not to mention that it's nearly impossible for Zangief to trap a really good Dhalsim player in the corner in the first place. So, Zangief is severely handicapped in that match.
I think that's for the best. If he could safejump right after, it'd be too cheap. I say that as a casual Gief main. He's still dominates everything that comes near him.
You don´t need to do a full 360 motion to execute "360" Moves. You only need a 270 degree motion. For example F,DF,D,DB,B,UB,U+Punch will do a spinning piledriver. For the double "360" he does a double 270 Motion like U,UB,B,DB,D,DF,F,DF,D,DB,B,UB,U+Punch. That way he can buffer the first 270 into an attack walk a step and then do the 2nd 270 for the super special. No "360 button".
Why was your comment thumbsed down? It's the fucking truth people. Zangief player (Pony) is using the NEAR worst character in the game. He is just the best Zangief player in the world, so that is why he is so dominant.
Great Zangief, a good player pianos the specials... (pressing all 3 buttons to get better chance at timing)... he messes up sometimes and instead of SPD he just lariats... ownage
