Zenimax Continues Making Bad Balance Changes In Elder Scrolls Online 

2024 and zeni still don’t listen to the core players they continue to cater to the more casual players who don’t wanna spend hours and hours on the game. They think someone who’s played a weeks should be at the skill level of a player who’s played 10 years. It takes them a year to admit and nerf most things, like listen to the PTS, listen to community feedback and realise you have such a solid pve and PvP game and you’d retain more players if you just listened. 😫

All the updates for ESO are just busy work at ZOS, with nothing substantial that makes meaningful changes. They "adjust values by 0.003%" and then revert it back in the following patch. I've been complaining on the forums about siege since 2016, and it’s always met with an alarming amount of hate. One thing I've been saying for actual years is that the unique status effects from siege alone could kill players. Because it's never just the siege-it's always the siege plus 25 other people attacking you. If you run through a meatbag with 25 people on you, the defile alone is enough to kill anyone. The 3x ticks of 7k damage are completely unnecessary. (the beginning was meant to be about class/skill balance, not the new broken shit they be adding)

Dude beating a dead horse. they do this shit every freaking time

The point you made at the end has bugged me for a long time, about how we have no idea why they make the changes they do, and how most veterans don't even bother discussing the balance anymore because our feedback has been proven to simply not matter. Wish they'd make an effort to communicate with players regarding what they actually want PVP balance to look like. They said years ago when they nerfed viper/tremor/widowmaker that they didn't want people stacking procs, but they've allowed procs to be dominant in one form or another for the past couple years. They stated in their combat goals a year back that they wanted fast paced gameplay where your decisions matter and determine the outcome of combat, but they haven't said a word about the tank meta that has gone on since hybridization. They did tests to target the functionality of ball groups/large groups and acknowledged that gameplay as problematic for both balance and server performance, but they've done nothing but buff them with zero nerfs for yeras at this point. Ultimately it just feels like there hasn't been any direction in mind for balance in a very long time, and they're changing things just for the sake of changing them in order to meet some sort of work quotas. Wishful thinking to believe anything is going to change at this point, but man what a shame.

It is absurd to release a new set, put it in the IA, which is a terrible farm and nerf it a few weeks later. This is the edge of dishonest here. It feels like they did this only to lure ppl to boost the Infinite Archive number of players. I am glad I have not farmed Pyrebrand and will be nowhere near the IA in the foreseeable future.

I gave this game up in 2021 for a reason, I was getting sick of the balance yoyo. Good to see nothing changed.

People not remember oakensoul 1.0?

Quit playing 5ish years ago. Logged in 2022 just to walk around for awhile. Had 5.5k Hours almost all on a single mag nightblade. ZoS will NEVER change. Devs do the same thing every year and people keep expecting them to start trying to actually make it better. ESO is literally just a cash shop money pump for them. They do stupid balance changes ON PURPOSE. It incentivizes you to keep your sub going while you grind some shit they can just nerf later. It incentivizes people to buy crowns and spend them on grind shortcuts when people make new characters cause the old one gets nerfed. It incentivizes you to keep playing on a endless hamster wheel always chasing a carrot on a stick. Same problems your highlighting in your vid are the exact same problems game had 5years ago, and for years before that. After One Tamriel update they fundamentally changed how they looked at the game and how they would treat it. It became a money pump. Was in 5 different maxed out guilds and had my friends list constantly teetering on max. Every single one of those guilds was dead and only 1 dude on my friends list still played when I checked in 2022, most had been offline for over a year. Veteran players dip out, new players fill in and go through the entire process of figuring out the dev doesnt give a shit and then by the time they quit new people are taking their place.

I cane back late last year, but I continue to see that they don't listen to their players at all.

2:46 Player feedback from PTS is ignored and they despise sound criticism and obstinately believe their decisions are the word of God. Thats also why the forums are useless and only serve as a shitter complaint hub.

game is going in the direction that rich and the higher ups want no matter what. they are making minimal changes just for the sake of update. go count the amount of "Fixed an issue..." in the patch notes, its kinda funny. that siege set is hilarious lmaooo

They should make Tarnished proc from Direct critical damage within melee range.. The biggest problem is being hit by multiple procs from 5 NBs spamming Crushing Shock 40 metres away.

Oh, that gorgeous voice, it reminded me of Nathan Fillion and his acting as Cayde-6

buff shacklebreaker instead of nerfing a new set thats good. or we'll just end up with sloads treatment every new set that comes out

These changes are made with new pvp player retention in mind. Zos would prefer for veteran players to rage quit because noobs spend more rl money on games. To that end they'll continue to diminish the skill factor in pvp in favor of noob friendly playstyles.

shame on everyone who falls for their bs and farms new sets...you should know by now they make something strong to sell content or promote playing something alot of people avoid

ZOS showing once again they want casual gamers to rule pvp 😂 its really crazy how much they can fuck up this game. I mean they wanted to get away from this proc and tank meta in 2016 till they figured out theyll lose the casual player who are not able to do a proper dmg rotation without a proc bouncing of a light attack 😂😂😂💀 seriously wanna know which down3y gets these ideas

This is what they've been doing for years. Nothing new

Idk if it's ever possible to balance something before releasing it. Maybe ESO is completely different, but in games like Hearthstone or CSGO, WoW, Lost Ark, or Dota, there are always constant balance cycles. In GW2, PvP, armors do not apply. So everyone start on the same par. One game that does balance well is actually FF14, in PvP. This is because all healer classes get the same skills. All dps classes get the same skills, and all tank classes get the same skills. While everyone gets the same stats based on class and armor. So it is actually perfectly balanced.

What do you think about that new nightblade toggle for shadow lol

My little hot take. ZOS put out pyre as it was so people would get into the “new” infinite archive update they dropped along with it. They have said at least 4 times that I can remember how important IA is to the developers. They got people in there now they(ZOS) are gonna nerf the set and “hopefully” people that got the experience in IA stay in there. It’s always a weird multi step game with ZOS. They knew fully well what they were doing dropping the set how they did. Games being catered to newer players and that’s cool and all but it’s killing the game for people that have been here for these 10 years while working in their favor bringing in more money from people that don’t know about the ZOS bs at the same time. It’s insane. Just my hot take

I can already figure out a couple of ways to abuse this set. I hate to see things like this.

Also, siege should do a ton of damage, since you know, you can't move while using the weapon. Eseentially, whoever has the high ground with siege gets a bigger advantage. Therefore, it is defenders advantage. If siege weapon does less damage than skills, why in the world would you ever spend currency on it and to stay still to use it?

Yup that's one reason why I don't bother farming new op sets because I've been burnt too many time putting in time and effort to put a build together only to have it nerfed.

Actually the nerf to tarnished is quite significant because now you won’t be able to stack the damage in the same instance with other proc sets tarnished was an exception to the rule that two sets could not proc at the same time. This set could bring the ole one-shot stam sorcery meta but not anymore.

im surprised that the siege set isnt a mythic item.

This is an issue but that's the fault of ZOS using live server for testing and not PTS. They get tons of pts feedback but I'm sure 90% is lost in the void, its only until live players deal with the crap that they see it's an actual problem, IMO. This isn't gonna change, the combat team is just incompetent

Yeah this is why I stopped playing. I went a few patches grinding gear and outfitting all my characters. After two rounds of nurfing all my sets...I said screw it and stopped. To give you and idea. It was moon dancer and perfected false gods. So a long time ago.

how are you gonna talk about the siege set but not mention the crit resist set lol

I love the siege it should be very strong thats the point man, before siege was useless , its nice to kill ball groups that cheese all day im sorry gotta disagree siege is tatics how u fight

The tarnished change was so you can't stack anthelmir construct and calurions for a 3 proc instant gank with invis heavy

Nah your definitely gonna have time to counter with the new tarnished change. If I incap you and spectral bow I’m putting all my money in the table that either those 2 cooldowns get you but in cryodill it doesn’t not with tank health meta so tarnished helps with that extra upfront burst to down insanely tanky targets not to mention it procs sundered. If there is a delay you’ll now have time to heal before it procs because it’s basically my executable if my 2 executes don’t do the job. And if I use my back bar and swap front bar before my attack lands it will proc tarnished and ruin my whole burst for another 8 seconds so id have to disagree that you won’t be able to counter, and tarnished alone without a heavy damaging dot or skill involved with that burst it does nothing alone the only plus is sundered but alone tarnished procing doesn’t even scratch most players in cryo.

Zos is still a business. What drives business? Sales and profitability. They will create/add/edit new dlcs, overpowered class, sets, abilities, etc. to attract new customers and retain old customers. Customers both new and old will exploit these. We all do. Just what Zos wants. Once Zos achieve what they aim to do (sales and profitability) then they’ll “nerf” or in their terms “balance”things out and at the same time develop and create something new that will be overpowered for the next update. A continuous cycle 🔄. 😅

it should be set to gearing up to the next update

This is their MO... I am getting fucking tired of ESO..

I entirely agree.

So true its so anoying, and take all the fun from farming this Sets . I am at this Point just stop farming this Sets , its pointless

So you want tarnished nerfed and pyrebrand not nerfed?

I think its awesome though nerfing arcanist in pvp and tarnished nightmare needs to be nerfed

Games dogshit, pvp will never be good again and i think we all just need to accept it at this point. Only going to get worse with the echo chamber of zergling shitters giving feedback and just complaining about shit they dont understand.

They can easy balance the game by just split pvp and pve skill. Pvp base on class thats it.

You must not be played call of duty…., they always release OP weapons & then nerf them…. I hate that….. Why release weapons & sets just to nerf them….. leave them as is…. So everything can be OP….. it’ll still be a variety of OP sets to use

Most changes they make are bad. I know this, you know this, everyone with any common sense knows this. I look at patch notes and think the same thing you do, almost always. And its most people, besides the players who play this game like a single player rpg. And thats the problem, we have been pushed aside for those players. The revolving door of casuals zos appeals to. Everything they do for vet players is either bad or extremely low effort. Or worse, something most people dont want like the "pvp" update. And another problem is they take so long to do anything. Guild wars 2 has had things for like 5 years that zos has finally decided to add. Basic, simple, easy to add, QOL changes. Even their new housing update has more features than esos, which is esos strongest point. And they actually put small updates out after a major update, while zenimax takes way too long to address or change things. So imo what we have is an out of touch dev team, chasing vet players and pvp players away, and taking way too long to make substantial changes. And the changes they do make are usually bad. And them putting out sets to only nerf them into the dirt within a few months, after everyone farms it, shows how much they dont care what we think. At all. Which is why i havent been playing much either. Its sad that my favorite game has been chasing me away for years. Id love to still be pvping every day, but its just lame and has only gotten worse. Ill play a bit next update, but until something big changes, and im aware it never will, ill be playing gw2 or wow or something else.

Never see you stream anymore, The sets are always gonna get the fatty nerf always have always will... I don't even find Tarnished hard to deal with after the inevitable proxy glitch thing bombers were using got fixed that was bad dropping ball groups in 2seconds haha Siege on the other hand 33k coldfire on solo players is crazy half the time its invisible as well on my server anyway, they can't nerf siege though ball groups would be invincible! That set is poopoo though Elf Bane/Pariah or Mara's, siegemaster's, chudan, potentates backbar Siege-Lord build.. calling it now lol

When will ZoS wake up?

People still pvp?

Typical MMO, bring out new shiny, everyone grinds it, nerfed. This is not a uniquely ESO thing 😂

most of the people in this comment section definitely bought the 8k crown crate bundle. and probably do everytime there's a new one in the store. you all have only yourselves to blame. stop supporting this dogshit studio, it's pretty simple.

i´m just tired of there behaviar but there is olso a sence for zos. Its like everytime ignore warnings on pts from pvp players especially from cyro players. But let release it on live server so people need to buy a dlc for compare. next time there will be olso a battlepass so you need to pay for it after the try to force cyro players now to just play battlegrounds. its just like with multibal sets since the 10 years i play just pvp and only cyro. The promotion of this game it was released was its a nice massive mmo pvp game but they just abandoned it after the first years and focused on pve. you was seen it olso of many years on bad cyro servers olso battleground servers with massive performence problems. yep for fer time after new servers was relativly ok but again performence problems and no bug working like we will have it forever like the battle bug. And sry for my idiot crying but after the release of the battlepass i just abondon this game after oll the years and play skirim again corse i´m realy realy tired of that oll. and the following i will write will maby trigger some people but i olso tired of the woke things like give us an trans copangion i will just go to wokong and scirim to avoid that things corse i just to tiered of that hole gaming industrie to make everything pay to win so free to play players have no chance and make oll things woke. sry for my words you are oll just free to give me hate answeres. A dude that was loving the open field pvp cyro from release but will just gave for hope for eso and cyro now i have enove from that things. and i just no wonder why new players avoid cyro so much since srcibing update i fully understand them on both servers eu where i play and olso on na thy have even more performens problems. just sad to see it after oll the years i spend in this game

why do people insist on pvping in MMos? Just go away to fortnight or one of the bazillions of PVP games out there and let MMOs focus on PVE content, thats clearly what MMOs really are about - trying to blend pve and pvp content just makes both suck.

love you nes but get yo ass on live and tell us this miss you muah mf

Bro it sounds like you never played any other online game, thats pretty obvious why they do it, because they want money, they release OP sets because they want people to use it, literally every online game does that, apex legends, league of legends, release overpower stuff, to grab money from expansions, skins, heirlooms, and nerf it to the ground, and then do it again with other legends/sets/characters. i agree that its bad design, but you sit here and said you don't understand why they do that, you are just being naive

Oh no sets get nerfed too often. Please ZOS, nerf Tarnished Nightmare. I don't PVP much but if a set is working for players, why include it in a video where you're talking about too many others getting nerfed, it makes no sense?

ZOS about to lose all their playerbase to new world 😂

god ur siege take is aweful man like wtf are we talking about ? a set good for roleplayers ? like i d be happy if people run that crap in cryo ur stuck in combat 95% of time so if u run that shit u cant change it when the siege is over meaning u will fight with a roleplay set half of the time and if u sit on a wall spamming a siege ur not gonna die anyway (or be rezed in less than 30sec) also what is that crap about sieges being op for years ? did u play cyro? are u like rank 12 or something ? litteraly every single player can survive a hit of any of the sieges if u stand in more than 1 u HAVE to die otherwise sieges are useless for any kind of defense even now most sieges can be ignored IF you have some kind of healer but nerfing them any further effectifly makes them worse for their intended purpose than spamming light attacks on enemys lmafo

They are going woke. Hear me out