Zenless Zone Zero Made A 100 Million BUT...Here's The Problem. 

Almost there!

He's farming traffic for the YT algo, this has to be intentional. He might not believe most of his own takes and just act unhinged for drama content.

@@luckyjc8702ever think your the unhinged one for assuming the intent of someone who doesn’t and never will know you just for the sake of hating on the guy your never gonna actually know

hahaha is feally funny haha

blood for the blood god. to be fair though not the worst content on this platform so lets help the algo go brrr

CCs?

Lol i mean they spend money in the game so ofc they gonna think like that 😂

Nah fr. As long as a game make enough to keep the doors open that's all that matters. But of course there are all these bots and shills trying to compare the company's D size like some meat riders. (Mostly hoyo shills)

Lol

@@Zarko.it’s the CC ‘JOB’ to make an opinion ….what benefit YOU get from defending a company so hard lol

that shit was come out of nowhere the audience is very specific too that crazy

*and wuwa killer

@@Rat_Fบcker its been up there chillin around the top 5 since release in january this whole time its been top 3 for some other months as well

and called the other game impressive despite dropping in numbers because of how they did in their previous game state. Crazy narrative painting just to praise their favorite game

The inner kuro shill is emerging with the guy

​@@Kenxiee9 it shows you're lacking logic. People tend to support a game that's likely inferior but has a lot of potential than a titan whose already at its peak. I like hoyo games and played all of them till now but it's sad to see people who has superiority complex to flex over other gacha community for having their fav game dominating like they own a share of revenue to hoyoverse 😂.

Cause its the same chinese community simping for their favourite company. The number ratio didnt change whether its 2 or 3 games. And Genshin and HSR drop was way too massive. The only W here I see is love and deepspace.

@@nyeindelta9290 Doesn't matter. A game made almost 100 million in a month. All other details are irrelevant.

Loud minority.

Hi, you're here too, Love and deepspace's revenue was higher this time, but normally they make at least 30 million if I'm not mistaken.

so you'll be cheating ?

Hell ya

@@jeremywinston1 Love and deepspace buddy

@@jeremywinston1they’re talking about love and deep space I think. It’s a romance game

@@roxas327 ah, i forgot it was up there. i 100% agree.

the age old coomer cope of "CN only cares about females" nah bruh miss me, heaps of data show there is more to it than just gender, recent example is JY being the most liked character in CN.

Poor emilie is not a new charechter anymore

@@ibrahim5463 who is emilie

​@@ibrahim5463Emilie is not out yet

@@ibrahim5463 she is on 2nd phase banner

@@ibrahim5463 Emily is yet to release, noob

easy clap

They did the same in HSR with Jade's banner. She was one of the least popular characters in the game.

This happens every month, content creators farm the revenue updates thinking they're better analysts than the entire teams of specialists Hoyo employ, having access to vast amounts of user data. Hoyo clearly has a content cycle, giving each game its time in the spotlight to maximize profits and keeping players in their ecosystem. ZZZ didn't cut into profits from GI or HSR, they were simply on their filler banners while ZZZ was in its prime. Hoyo is essentially ensuring that if one or two of their games are on a weak patch, another game is on a peak patch.

Finally someone that understands how it works, western CCs are braindead I swear.

but they already was having high consistent revenue for the entire year, so this is a load of bullshit.

You're the one who didn't get it. Zzz did make a great amount of money in the first month, but the problem is the players are the same, so it's not guaranteed to make zzz on top 10 or one of genshin or hsr would fall as time passes and that's impossible cuz most of players do like those first games so that's it. i don't know. i forgot sth else i would like to tell you.

@@declanakaba8013 No, because you have no way of proving that the players spending on ZZZ are players who would have spent on HSR or Genshin instead during that same month if ZZZ didn't come out, which is where the flawed logic is. A portfolio business only cares about the performance of their entire portfolio, and ZZZ was specifically designed to be released during a period of slow revenue for Hoyoverse as a whole, which is July/August. Which is why it was a smashing success for Hoyoverse as this year's July revenue was 104 million higher than last year's July revenue.

@@lukeh419 yea if hoyo didn't have ZZZ they would have lost that 96 million

@lukeh419 but this is temporarily as i think cuz as time flies zzz needs more funds to keep up with others or even in the top 10 so when the others are in their main patch story like now penacony ended and we're going to genshin new region so it's only one patch in between. I think zzz would be a loss as time goes if they don't get a new market or community.

@lukeh419 Sorry for my lack of words. I'm not into vocabulary that much.

Hoyo dogs are insecure of Wuwa

We are not crying lol we are glad cringe players from hoyo didn't join wuwa, wuwa is already better than genshin from every aspect we don't have time to mint picking coz we actually have a lot of things to in our game unlike yours where you go to collect sweet flowers coz there ia literally no shit to do

With how changli banner is a flop, the most overhype character. They trying to make new excuse now 😂 Wuthering failed

@@harfi212 go fuck with your puffer fish ayaka, genshin character models looks like shit admit it you have bad taste

@@Rafi_665 Hell yeah you have a lot of things to do bro, those echoes aren't going to pick themselves are they? Oh wait, what do you mean it's pointless because EXP and Tuners are timegated? YOU MEAN OVERWORLD ECHOES = MINT PICKING? Nah not in my revolutionary WuWa. Ya'll kuro copers are some of the most amusing characters i swear. Never had i seen such a large gathering of IRL NPCs before now.

Naaaah

Genuine question what do you gain from this? Do you actually think copies sold/ Revenue gained means the game is better? I don’t care about gacha games all of them are bad games inherently. It’s just funny as hell to see y’all cult over a game like y’all really have mental issues/illness.

@@awildtenshi367 Regardless the dude has a point ... CC's doom posted ZZZ from launch and for some reason they all shocked it made money. If it was just him I would say its just his opinion but more than a handful of creators have been doing this and then back-peddling on their rating of the game from trash to good/fun.

Haha true 😂😂

Yeah, defo agree. HSR had two pure fiction units running most of the month, and as for Genshin, Nilou is on her third rerun, and Navia is Geo and not really meta defining. I doubt the Furina banner had much impact. They’d probably done this intentionally though, so people would spend on ZZZ

Genshin has a banger summer event, but terrible banners. I expect Genshin to be low for July, and it should sky rocket when Natlan releases.

Me and alot of my friends play all hoyo games, when one has a dead patch we play another so I agree with gachasmack, he's seeing the bigger picture

im sorry but i dont think if there's no "worth pulling" character on both HSR and genshin means people will spend it on ZZZ.

I dont know man,ZZZ is really weird,many people/influencer really overhated this game,and many people still top up in this most hated hoyo game on Internet,i think this time to log out from community gacha game

how is this ur take away from what he’s saying

You forget that kuro was living in 2 mil a month before wuwa, all things considered they are doing fine, hoyo is a giant that can't be toppled I have no idea why some people even thought wuwa could surpass genshin (on the last patch right before 5.0 mind you) let alone ZZZ

@@Tissuestrash he is he outright said hoyo may have lost money because same players despite there being good reasons for the drop off in money but kuro who lost 20 million gain money pgr doesn't make 20 million it can't cover that lose kuro flopped hard on mobile that month

@@eddieboston6540 that is not what he’s saying he said they made the same amount of total revenue for this month which is kinda concerning when you factor in the fact that a brand new game brings in a lot more overhead cost we will see next month if zzz will actually increase hoyos net revenue and if it does that’s great

@@eddieboston6540 pgr always averaged 1-2 mill the fact that wuwa will probably always be above 10 mill on MOBILE only is insane for kuro what is this comparison zzz is a brand new game and it only bought in 8.8 mill more this month compared to last which had a freeze for every game so it could possibly be even less than last month if we take account for the freeze that happened lmao

My PC run COD warzone smoother than WuWa

was just thinking about adding a random one myself to hit the quota

@@myob2dac I was thinking the exact same thing so ima just leave this here

here's another one

+1

+1

Nope we don’t need to choose between 4 guys. We can have ALL lol 🤣

So, how does the gache system work then, are there only 4 characters? I'm a bit confused tbh

@@suzain_769 The gacha system is not about pulling for characters, but stories with the 4 characters, like moments you spend with them, but which also serve as relics/artifacts within the game during combat.

@@louiserahzel6337 Sounds worse than Simps paying for their waifus.

@@louiserahzel6337Thanks, now I'm even more confused

That's because if it didn't then ZZZ will have low revenue, they did that on purpose so that they new game will sell lol

​​@@Yuukine2365nope, genshin is at last patch before a new nation. It always has been low, people are saving for new nation characters x 7 to x8 is always the least pulled patch.

His wuwa agenda is preventing him from being a critical thinker

i feel like how just chose to talk good about waya but not about others and put down the 100 mil

yeah he totally ignore that genshin only have rerun banner and HSR have unpopular chara banner and just assume the drop because everyone move to zzz

oh no wuwa shill not gonna like what u just said

@@memekayam4655 ya and then aknowledges wuwa for dipping down and says thats a net positive

@@nagi-springfield93 the thing is, it's not even about wuwa. I don't know why people are saying "look at the hoyo shills". Most people are just correcting his point that hoyo would've made the same or similar amount of money if they didn't release zzz implying that zzz is cannibalizing. wuwa and hoyo shills both braindead i feel.

1. Furina had 16 days in July, Nilou had a paid outfit and would’ve gotten a boost in sales because of that. 2. HSR had 10 days of Firefly AND Ruan mei as well as Yulin/Huo huo’s first 2 days. Thinking an archon, 2 meta defining units, 6 banners in HSR, as well as a new outfit somehow justifies lower revenue sales is so disingenuous.

​@@luckywizard_ come on now, nobody is buying the nilou outfit who is a charector that stays offfield for 90% of the time, plus it's version 4.8, the patch RIGHT BEFORE 5.0 do you honestly expect it to do so well? Plus the general sentiment is that people who want to spend money will spend on the first few days of the banner, furinas reruns first few days were in the previous month, not to mention she was paired with the worst 5 star unit in the game as well, the same can be said for HSR the last 10 days of ff banner obviously won't make that much since it's the last 10 days, what do expect, and then jade and yunli are meh

I know cuz it's so bad in mobile

@@declanakaba8013 exactly why I did it, I only really play these games on my phone. Zzz works great on mobile for me

Those WuWas shills are running out of excuses

But the majority of the target players in zzz are males, is not the same thing.

Typical kuro shill coping. It's the funniest thing to come out of the monthly revenue reports ngl.

People earnestly arguing that making less profit is better than making more profit is kind of wild to me, and we're seeing it a lot. Do people think everyone is working for free developing ZZZ? The REVENUE is staying the same with 3 games. Profit is not, by definition, because you've added the overhead for a third game.

yeah, it's both scummy and genius frm them. Scummy because they absolutely play on the addiction on their players but genius because they got people "stuck in their ecosystem" like Apple. People will try these game simply because its made by Hoyoverse and they will put money on it because oit has great looking characters and cool animations. On a business point of view, it's absolutely genius. Now if you play these games, you won't ever get out of them and play something else because the content will never be "dry" as when you finish one game, you go to the other and so on.

People that keep mentioning Hoyo timed a schedule to put a spotlight on ZZZ aren't even listening to the video... His point is that if the overall income of the company remains the same despite a new IP on the board, it's not really much of a success since ZZZ failed to bring in new audience in the market. ZZZ is a game with very different themes when compared to Hoyoverse's previous titles and it has been made that way to reel in new customers. Even if they ensured consistent incomes that they were already making from two titles alone, the goal was to maintain the income they've been making the past few charts AND bump it up a bit with ZZZ's expected launch income. You can't possibly say that this is a success if you consider the additional expenses to maintain a whole another game + the overall expenses it took to develop ZZZ. If ZZZ was the only Hoyoverse title on the board, this would be a huge success. But all in all, it is a net loss and a risky decision to make.

People just like to stare at those numbers, which in my opinions, do not tell anything. Gotta think about the real life situations, that the number of gamers is decreasing and it is not just for hoyo, but the whole game industry, cuz the COVID restrictions are totally gone now, especially for China and Japan which are the main target for mobile games. People are going outside for jobs and other outdoor entertainments, and quitting gamers. Not to mention that there are many other game companies trying to join the battlefield. It is a must-happen thing for the numbers to drop. We gamers just don't have enough information about the market and it is almost stupid to make arguments like "Oh their numbers are dropping badly so the company is dying. They failed!" If they didn't add a new title, the number will drop even more, cuz there are players bored with the old IPs and will be moving to other brand like Kuro games. The cost they put into ZZZ is necessary because they need to keep their hoyo audience stick with them. Also, ZZZ is an attempt for them to expand PlayStation market, which most CCs automatically ignore. I can rarely hear people mention that the game experience of ZZZ on PS5 is extremely good. All in all, ZZZ is not a huge success like all those brain-dead hoyo defenders are saying, but it is also successful enough for hoyo to keep their top position in Gacha game market from my humble opinions 😉

@@ladyloo5341 His first mistake is to think that Hoyo makes 150+ million every month on mobile with only Genshin and HSR. This is factually wrong. It's not the same players spending the same money they usually spend monthly on Hoyo titles; it's the same players, as well as new players spending money they wouldn't have spent this month if it weren't for ZZZ launch. The overall income for Hoyo this month is absolutely not the same as usual. The months making 150+ million, thanks to banners like Firefly, Acheron, Neuvillette, Arlechino... ARE the unusual months. *And this is only mobile revenue* IMO it's pretty insane to even express the idea that the launch of Zenless isn't a resounding success.

yeah, both 5* in that banner looking good. Still might pull for scooby doo this patch tho

@@Majin_Fuu I pulled yunli but i'm going hard on 2.5. Going to e2 Fexiao and e1 Linshua

For me ez skip. I and from what I noticed people don't like hunt characters in HSR. Single target units in aoe oriented content are instant meh. I saw the dreams about Feixiao. Her animations looks cool, her dmg is cool. I'm going to skip. So idk if 2.5 will be huge. And Lingsha is just a Galla. If you have E6 Galla then why even bother? Not worth the jades at all.

no doubt hsr gonna clear everyone with 2.5 they literally made archeron 2.0 and waifu version of gallagher, even the 4* looks good.

@@Fat_Rucker nah HSR gonna find it hard to overcome Genshin. Kinich may drop 2 weeks into September, and they have their x2 reset. ZZZ surely gonna get 2 new S rank (maybe from Calydon faction) The onlything which is guaranteed is no 1 2 3 is from Hoyo, but Genshin has a better chance in taking over the #1 spot

@@AespaKatarina this is what happens when they censor zippers xd

isn't it Changli revenue? She wasn't as hyped as Jinshi, plus she was getting hate in China ​@@AespaKatarina

​@@AespaKatarinaJinhsi revenue is barely included in this month though? Most of it was in last month's one which is why it did so well last month. Yinlin and Jinhsi counted This month is the later half of Jinhsi banner and Changli, that's it

@@AespaKatarina thing is....Wuwa revenue is still a massive success for them when their only other game was not even making a million 1 year ago. Itrs a drop frm the last time but we don'th ave all the numbers. Wuwa will never get as much as Hoyo games anyway because it doesn't have the same marketing value. But it managed to get a spot in a very competitive space and that's their win on that matter. PGR is also making better numbers now compared to before. Also, let's not forget that Wuwa EVEN with hoyo games players numbers will never make as much money because the game is more generous which is a win for players on the long run.

​@@AespaKatarina Damn, only made 30m from a company used to making 1-2m per month They're so buried, how are they gonna live

the first post(not smack) was it won't make money now it's only made money because genshin/ hsr made less money.

I think he was going by this generally as a whole company. Kuro only has PGR that generates like 800k to 1.5 per month depending on the patch. So them earning 30+ million and 100+ million in just two months is a massive success for Kuro's part. Meanwhile in HOYO the revenue they generated in past prior months net over 200+ on both HSR and GI and when zzz dropped nothing changed I think he didn't consider it as a failure but you can't call that as a success either. Hoyo is just cycling CN and JP playerbase on three games. I'm not gonna mention US since starting from this point on western will probably even gonna be lower than usual.

@@HazardTone I agree that 30 mil in 1 month is a great success. I'm not sure where you got 100 mil from, bc they got 45 mil in the first month and 30 mil in the 2nd month. That's still a huge success, but I'm not sure where you got 100 mil from. How is 95 mil bad compared to 30 mil? It's either somehow bad because HSR and Genshin had a bad month, or it's somehow bad because we should expect more from hoyoverse or something? These are completely arbitrary metrics that have never been applied to any other game before. You can't twist 95 mil into a failure. Literally any other company would kill to have a month like that.

@@prestonbeaulieu4379 100+ miilion for 2 months in total that was before Changli banner and only on Mobile revenue.

@@prestonbeaulieu4379 I didn't say it is a failure but you can't totally say it's a success either. US revenue being lower like 9% and JP only by 20% and CN dominates that Revenue by 69% suggests that only Hoyo usual playerbase are whaling for the game. If in the future US will contribute to it like 30 % of their revenue that's what I would call a success. CN already on the chokehold of Hoyo so them reaching that revenue and CN dominated that with 70% of its total is nothing surprising.

@@HazardTone That's what I'm saying. How is 95 mil in a month bad, just because it's expected from hoyo at this point? When HSR popped off, no one was like "oh well it doesn't really count because we expect this from hoyo at this point. A bunch of people went from genshin to honkai, so honkai isn't really a success." No one said that, everyone was just like "wow, honkai is making more money than genshin now, what a crazy success." But somehow it's seen as a bad thing when ZZZ does the exact same thing Honkai did. The double standard just doesn't make any sense.

Why tf would you ever care about how much the game is making if you enjoy the game play the game it’s really that simple And btw even tho you and a lot of other people consider TOF dead it still has a community that enjoys the game

nah it won't unless wuwa drop more mid patchs like the upcoming 1.2 but yes kuro stans are moving the goal post. first post ZZZ will flop not make money but i doesn't flop making over 100 million out doing wuwa as a whole second post it's just because people who didn't spend in hsr or genshin spent in zzz instead but hsr had jade/ genshin about to drop 5.0 third post shut up hoyo cuck shill

Given how kuro is only a fraction of a company hoyo is currently, id say they are doing very well, I play both genshin and wuwa ans i enjoy them both, this fight is stupid lol

Hey clown, always remember no matter how much your lord hoyo earns, they still won't respect you 😂

Good for you. We enjoy our game and free 5-stars. You go enjoy having the most boring ass gameplay ever made lmao

Making children gambling addicted, getting them into a sunk cost fallacy is a huge W?

@@RealQuarlieif you’re going to take that viewpoint the this applies for all gacha games and most mobile games currently not just a hoyo thing

​​​@@RealQuarlie man everything is gambling not only gacha game ,at least in gacha game you help , people like animator , voice actor ,etc more job so they can feed their families, and you also got character that can you keep forever ,

​@@sev559It's a hoyo thing. Let's be real

​@RealQuarlie Bro don't they have parents? Like good lord ..

gacha betta put some respect on it

As a Genshin/Kuro player...combat is definitely what sold me on LaDS in addition to the guys. If the other two don't want to give incentive for women and guys who like playing males (gay or straight) to spend...well, will happily drop a couple grand on LaDS each month.

@@GLoLChibs it’s so bizarre to me that there are men out there that want games from HoYo and Kuro to be waifu only??? Like why not dip into both markets?

@@sleepysyren They really can't comprehend some games start out catering to both...on purpose. If they want waifu only they should follow their own advice and go play the dozens of waifu only games that already exist.

2*. The changli revenus were freeze during the first 3 days so its changli banner without her peak of selling.

@@theolailheugue9402 oh, i thought it happened on second week

​@@theolailheugue9402, not first 3 days. Day 2-3.

@@theolailheugue9402 Revenue froze from day 4 up until day 6. Coping is okay, spreading bullsh*t is not.

​@@theolailheugue9402 so it happened again huh?

Yep thats exactly what I thought too, the numbers proved the people who doom posted ZZZ and said its gonna bomb on launch wrong and now the same people are trying to spin it.

yet that logic falls apart when all three games have hype patches and all make money when this happen it will prove smack wron

Ps5 too. Literally everyone i know irl plays it on PlayStation. Most of them dont even play gacha games either just just saw a new stylish game reach the top of the PlayStation store and wanted to dip their hands in.

Ngl my HSR fl says others

Yeah, that was intentional so as not to detract from ZZZ launch

Yep and Wuwu can't even beat a 4 year old game that's currently in a dead patch 😂🌹

@@DakimJamal it's also a buffer patch this happen every time when big update about to hit just a little cash grab for people who miss some character but also an opportunity to save up for character of new region

Nooo youre ruining their agenda, Kuro (supported by Tencent) is a small indie company who is perfectly happy with their current state right now and consider it a massive success, Hoyo on the other hand is a total failure as a giant company cos they cant keep making 100 million for each of their game every month

@@therion451 OMG i am sorry , i dont mean that, please forget what i say, enjoy your massive success company Smack

@@therion451 OMG i am sorry i dont mean that, please forget what i say, enjoy your massive success company Smack

Cry more zzzshill

Because these retarded CCs are salty that their opinions that ZZZ will fail didn't come true

​​@@PonderMINGY is that what you're doing when you find outwuwa made lower than genshin? isn't wuwa supposed to be better than genshin? 😂

@@DarthDionius well if they praise ZZZ that'll mean they admit their oppinion is wrong just because their ADHD tiktok addicted ass can't stay focus on TV for more than 5 minute

Now that i like to hear, these new BBS banners have been pretty good!

I'm playing sword now, I like it so far

@@depressoexpresso8469 based

screenshotting your comment so i can look these up later, been looking to add to my collection of games lol

@@wannabe_recluse6028brown dust 2 is prob the most generous game I’ve played. The anniversary just ended about 2-3 weeks ago but it’s rlly good. Story is good too

@@wannabe_recluse6028 reverse, BrownDust and SoC all have really nice stories. Definitely good games to check out

Have to somehow maintain the agenda lest they lose the title of "Kuro's biggest meatrider".

this guy has been saying ZZZ will flop for months, now zzz doing great and he need something else to continue coping his stand. All his take in this vid is pure bs ngl

true like unlike genshin or hsr wuwa banners are really good jinshi and changli both are meta characters but still their revenue is low compare to hoyo games.

when you compete in move the goal post competition but your opponent is Kuro fans

Bad music, bad lore, cringe story, mid character design, odd animations (physics), Not so special and _arguably_ and (subjectively) boring combat, writers don't seem to understand anime, cringiest livestream ever, devs playing victims, most toxic community currently. Take this as criticisms of the game and don't get offended. This is why *Wuwu would never* beat HYV.

Anniversary banner was there so maybe people wanted to sss their favourite characters

Yeah. It's surprising but I suppose people whaled since there's a 100% anniversary rerun banner.

I started playing PGR this month, after getting hooked on WuWa. And I saw some people just start playing it as well. So maybe WuWa got PGR some new players, idk.

It includes CN revenue which has Lucia Pyroath. Literally the main girl of PGR

@@ellietomiko5405 Oh yeah. That make sense. I was confused about the the two global symbol. I see it now. Thanks.

Changli is undeniably hotter though!😛

Humm, I guess this statistical info is from mobile, as far as I know, more Genshin, Hsr and Wuwa play their game on mobile phone a lot while WuWa is not so this still isn't the case

Yet, even Nilou banner can't beat a hot man😂

@@KhoaLýMinh-m3l yeah wuwa is cheated with PC version is counted as mobile because they connected TOP UP pages with googleplay

Fact, kurobot in denial their overhype character is losing to re run character. Changli is a flop 😂👏

If you're in the hoyoverse loop then you're obviously going to try other hoyoverse games. He's not entirely wrong as anyone stuck in the hoyoverse cycle will be stuck there unless they escape it.

@@ImproperStandby So, that only means more chances for people to spend on ZZZ when the banners in HSR and Genshin aren’t that good. Also, we call it for hoyo, like in reality this all take from each other. I’m sure a lot of wuwa players play hoyo games, so if ZZZ affects Genshin and HSR, it also affects Wuwa. The audience is mostly the same for all this gacha games.

@andynorck2389 Let's be real here, if you play gacha games you play gacha games from ANY company, if you play Hoyoverse games then you will absolutely play Hoyoverse games and maybe others, but you will most likely lean towards Hoyoverse games. Sure there's been new people who have been introduced to ZZZ because of how it is, but we shall see in time how many people stick with it and play it in the long run. These revenue charts mean jack shit if you ask me, did NIKKE make 96 million? Is it a dead game? No and far from it. How about Arknights? There's going to be a re-run for Rainbow Six Siege collab so that will be good.

@@ImproperStandby I agree. Which is why I don’t like his framing of acting like maybe it wasn’t a success. With this it’s already a success. Even if ithe revenue drops, or when it drops, it probably won’t ever go down to single digit millions. So I think they just increased their floor of monthly revenue even if their ceiling remains basically the same. This just proves ZZZ can make money. It isn’t a miss and won’t suddenly die.

@andynorck2389 I mean his take is fair, if you count that the people in the hoyoverse loop dumped money into ZZZ as well as GI and HSR then it didn't garner a new audience and only spread them out to other games. The thing is that most people don't have the mental capacity for common sense these days, especially in the gacha space. The metrics posted here are impressive for sure, but I get where Smack is going because in the long run is where you will see how much of a success it really is. I firmly believe pure gacha gamers are allergic to common sense and nuance takes, or even healthy discussions.

Complexity is coming soon. Although anomaly does not crit, I had a dream some rat girl can crit anomaly

no kuro lost money it needs to make good next patch or wuwa going to get content cut.

@@eddieboston6540 bro befor wuwa they wher making abaut 1 or 2 m at best

​@@haytamg4246thats a bot bro, dont bother

@rainyzack8134 genshin dropped massively but overall it was an increase since hsr made an unprecedented launch numbers, much more than zzz

Changli's banner data was frozen for a few days. Let's not ignore these facts.

@@stanicsteel5097nahhhh

​@@pretty.billy.tf u mean nah

​@@stanicsteel5097, firefly entire banner was frozen. So what? Still made $95mil with that and star rail players aren't coping nearly as much as you guys are lmfao.

@@kiuhh1118 The 95M was estimation not real number. I believe it was stated that the affected games had a only a "guess" in the revenues that month (So she might have earned less or more). I didn't hear atm anything about Changlis banner having this "guess/estimation" thrown in. Also Wuwa would need way bigger player-base than HSR to earn the same amount of cash on phone, since its cheaper to whale there.

Yeah i think smack forgot that this company does not need to make 200 million every month to survive. Plus the fact this is only mobile.

Yeah but the difference is that they need those revenue to maintain 3 games now lol

But its the same ratio they make last month with their 2 games. The only thing new here for the company is to maintain another new game with only extra 10million compare to last month.

@nyeindelta9290 last month they had Firefly and a Furina rerun, it's not something that happens everytime. The goal is having a 3rd game putting out their big banners when the other 2 can't, having an overall stable income every month. (And ZZZ Is not as pricey as genshin to develop, plus they got more than all the development cost of the game back with just one month) Just look, now natlan will release, around the time of 5.1 or 5.2, ZZZ will release Miyabi banner (highly anticipated character) and HSR will also approach the 3.0 after that. Always funny when we randoms assume a company like that can't tho math when it's clear their IQ in rotating game patches is admirable.

@@Yuukine2365 pretty sure that the gaming company that builded a nuclear engine will have no problems with that. Like even if the game made 20M monthly on average, do you think that is not enough to cover the development of updates of ZZZ? You guys don't understand how much of a margin they have even when they are not rocking 100M on both games.

End result is it ends up in hoyo hands at the end of the day, this way they are making money if one has a dry patch

The point of ZZZ's success is not that the game was able to take money away from its two "brothers", but that ZZZ did not allow these brothers to lose their overall income. Remove ZZZ from the list and it is very unlikely that Hoyo would have seen its 160 million in July. Two dead patches could not have made such a profit and ZZZ compensated for the shortcomings

@@ViktorAl-o9z Hoyo did that on purpose. They planned it so ZZZ pops off this way. Now this month is Yunli and Jaioqiu (who was nerfed to obscurity), to allow for Natlan's success, then September we will see Feixiao in HSR, new area in Natlan, and Jane Doe in ZZZ competing. IMO, I think September's report will be a huge surprise in terms of revenue per game and revenue combined

always have to move the goal post.

Cry me a river 😂 just purchased welkin and there's nothing you can do about it 🤣👍

Mihoyo games will always sell, even if they made a poop game with gacha elements, it'll generate millions. Cuz the mihoyo worshipers give them money

​@@ayoubp7689if poop game can make million, then I would be a millionaire if I made a gacha game😂. The game has it downside, but it is still better in quality that most other gacha game. What this is showing is that a poop hacha game made with a famous IP which is a reskin of a other game is failling as more quality game dominate the market.

Thats why miyabi in zzz gonna be playable later, they want to launch her after natlan first patches goes down

@@ayoubp7689 I'm not a hoyo d-rider, but it's crazy to discredit how much polish their games have. There's a reason why their games are successful in the long-term, and it's not because of the company's name. Every single one of their games so far is a solid game even if you take away the gacha aspects. If making any poop game with gacha elements worked, they would be releasing games every single month 💀 Straight up hoyo hater

thats what i observed too... Hoyo is making infinite money glitch plus i heard they are cooking new game as well

You are correct but imma leave this copy paste. Sry to state this but the past 2 months mobile revenue charts havent been accurate and Arent even a portion of the total revenue this was already reported on. an while people can say its just 2 to 3 days its the first 2 to 3 days of the start or the game and new banners which statistacally generates the most revenue. web outlets reported more than 100 mil last month for just part of the patch.

That doesn't change the ratios though? It just means they made a bit more, but they also already did a bit more before already anyway...

@@RealQuarlie A bit more? On a game that stayed number one on PSN for 3 weeks? The same platform where genshin literally made 1 billion in 2 years?? Think for a second.

@@RealQuarlie it might for wuwu cause statistically the majority which is alot morethan somemight think comes from the first 3 days which were voided for both month. Not to mention that according to some sourses wuwu did 2nd place behind hsr being that china japan and korea are top earners it says alot if true it really made alot

I want the best for both games as i enjoy them all. The only people who trully want the worst are people who emotionally or finacially invested in one or the other and are scared of that game losing validity.

Yeah Hoyo clearly designed it that way. They weren’t going to release amazing characters that were going to stop people from playing and spending in ZZZ. No overall revenue increase and more overhead, kinda an L

Of course, ZZZ only has one new character for August, so no big numbers 100%, but maybe still more than changli, maybe not

Navia and nilou is not a dead patch

@@SmartyPantsDash It is a very "dead" patch

@@ViktorAl-o9z wdym? 2nd banner won't release before September?

@@iDroiD-Gaming They won't make it in time. There are still 10+ days of Zhu Yuan ahead, and then 20+ days for the next character. So yes. In August, ZZZ will have only one fresh banner

Yup yup So copers are still coping about WuWa as genshin/hoyo killer

Hoyococks mindset: If it doesn't have more than genshin then it's a failure 🤓🤓☝

@@bruhmemes3668 no "hoyocock" said that. It was WuWa players who just kept rambling about it. There ain't many right now, but they sure are loud.

@@jade7631 okay bro i get it you want the D

@@jade7631 you sayin WuWa player want the game to be dead? bro literally everyone said if WuWa dont beat genshin its a failure and will EoS. you act like HoYofans are all saints and innocents and not loud too. kuro bot and hoyoshill equally bad stop the bias

wow what is the hoyo hate wuwa is doing the same just they suck at it

@@eddieboston6540 see you at the upcoming farming game moo moo moo hahaha

Fenny > ayla

True it is canon but, wanna bet the devs will do something dark and make you lose one or both of them married ladies since knowing these gambling apps, they will always go for either everyone including you dies OR you and the whole world is saved but you end up alone and single forever BUT that's just me.

@@Dante999000 this ain't no hoyoverse. there is no shaoji here. that would be a long stretch.

Haha, we enjoy our time spinning those tarot cards instead