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0! = 1
Dr James Grime tries to explain why this is the case - follow James on Twitter at / jamesgrime
More links & stuff in full description below ↓↓↓
Regarding the equation at the end - James says it should be e^-t dt NOT e^-n dn ... sorry for the mix-up!
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Комментарии : 9 тыс.   
@jaykay4137
@jaykay4137 8 лет назад
"You've broken maths, Brady. Stop that." This is why I now love math.
@andrewbell23
@andrewbell23 8 лет назад
Yeah I cracked up at that part! Lol
@HayTatsuko
@HayTatsuko 8 лет назад
I love the little smirk Dr. Grime gives just before showing the example!
@sliceofgarlicbread6868
@sliceofgarlicbread6868 7 лет назад
+Jay Kay I checked the comments to see if anyone said that.
@actuallyasriel
@actuallyasriel 7 лет назад
I love this guy so much. James is my favourite.
@sliceofgarlicbread6868
@sliceofgarlicbread6868 7 лет назад
Asriel Dreemurr My favorite is Matt Parker. Except, all the people on Numberphile are great!
@B3Band
@B3Band 7 лет назад
If you shout 0 loudly enough, it becomes 1. *0!*
@kirikouwepeutihmecemonami4219
@kirikouwepeutihmecemonami4219 7 лет назад
Nice one
@Music-ij1uu
@Music-ij1uu 7 лет назад
i dont get it :(
@soulenoid6701
@soulenoid6701 7 лет назад
Its an exclamation mark
@averyshaham1697
@averyshaham1697 7 лет назад
George Washington +Pyrrhic Victory it's 0 factorial which is 1.
@averyshaham1697
@averyshaham1697 7 лет назад
Pyrrhic Victory oh but if george watched the video he should've known anyway
@Purendrakingoytb
@Purendrakingoytb 2 года назад
Computer Engineers looking at the thumbnail - "Ah! yes. That's true."
@PianOG
@PianOG 2 года назад
😂😂😂
@madladdie7069
@madladdie7069 2 года назад
Lol, I got that joke mainly due to messing around with Minecraft commands.
@legendaryhacker9910
@legendaryhacker9910 2 года назад
For the peoples who are dont understand the joke: != means in programming lang. "Not equal" so 0 is not equal to 1
@aseanidmiller1238
@aseanidmiller1238 2 года назад
😭😂😂😂
@lukasbeyer2649
@lukasbeyer2649 2 года назад
yep yep
@cydar
@cydar 4 года назад
4:21 when my teacher asks where my homework is
@samuelthecamel
@samuelthecamel 4 года назад
"You wanna see me do it again?" XD
@leddaudet2350
@leddaudet2350 4 года назад
😂
@strickersniper7909
@strickersniper7909 4 года назад
Lol
@vai_-cn9br
@vai_-cn9br 4 года назад
🤣😭
@mjfanankit
@mjfanankit 4 года назад
🤣
@jackarundajiralhasari1062
@jackarundajiralhasari1062 6 лет назад
Aw, I was really wanting to see him try to arrange -1 coins.
@matchstickgameplay
@matchstickgameplay 5 лет назад
That's 1920s German money
@Ph0n3numb3r
@Ph0n3numb3r 5 лет назад
Money made out of anti matter.
@berwynsigns4115
@berwynsigns4115 5 лет назад
There are 1/0 ways to arrange -1 objects.
@thomashan4963
@thomashan4963 5 лет назад
Acutally, I've been arranging -n dollars every week.
@Xnoob545
@Xnoob545 5 лет назад
I...I...uhm... **dies**
@sarahboes6829
@sarahboes6829 8 лет назад
"There's zero objects..." *Zooms in on blank paper*
@abadlydrawnsnowman1648
@abadlydrawnsnowman1648 8 лет назад
That paper is an object... XDDDDDDDD
@watch426
@watch426 7 лет назад
Is it a bird, is it a plane? A plane.
@aamierulharith5294
@aamierulharith5294 7 лет назад
Sarah Boes i laugh when he said it
@CaseyShontz
@CaseyShontz 6 лет назад
XD
@davividal
@davividal 6 лет назад
It is a birdplane!
@hugodesrosiers-plaisance3156
@hugodesrosiers-plaisance3156 2 года назад
When he says "there's zero objects" and the camera zooms in on the blank paper, it really shows the capacity for the human mind to conceptualize things which aren't material. I love this.
@paulsingh1165
@paulsingh1165 Год назад
I laughed so hard when he was like "here watch me do it again"! 🤣
@oldveins
@oldveins 4 года назад
The moment starting at 4:14 looks like it was taken straight out of some kind of math version of The Office.
@gobucbabu1583
@gobucbabu1583 4 года назад
I thought the exact same thing 😂.
@dicktsui1818
@dicktsui1818 4 года назад
I can't see it but don't do anything rash and stay healthy.
@blow-by-blowtrumpet
@blow-by-blowtrumpet 4 года назад
Omg you are spot on! Never struck me the first time but now it's even funnier.
@Peter_1986
@Peter_1986 3 года назад
I couldn't see that. But maybe that is because I have never watched "The Office".
@LSC69
@LSC69 2 года назад
I like your profile name
@chunchun8241
@chunchun8241 5 лет назад
I asked my math teacher why 0!=1 he said "because it's like that"
@gravinboginagis6568
@gravinboginagis6568 5 лет назад
Teachers are goons
@theblinkingbrownie4654
@theblinkingbrownie4654 4 года назад
@Mr. H We get free education from youtube but teachers be like: That's the law. :/
@gravinboginagis6568
@gravinboginagis6568 4 года назад
Mr. H 🖕
@gravinboginagis6568
@gravinboginagis6568 4 года назад
Mr. H because you are implying that private education is superior and that normal people people get nothing because they didn’t “pay”
@NoActuallyGo-KCUF-Yourself
@NoActuallyGo-KCUF-Yourself 4 года назад
True by definition isn't as satisfying, but it works.
@sanokk3439
@sanokk3439 5 лет назад
"there it is, wanna see me do it again? there it is!" xD that made my day
@corpsiecorpsie_the_original
@corpsiecorpsie_the_original 5 лет назад
I like how his extra British accent came out during that 😄
@JassonCordones
@JassonCordones 4 года назад
@Lester Meza That's the reference
@EnerJetix
@EnerJetix 4 года назад
Same :)
@EnerJetix
@EnerJetix 4 года назад
griffin tucker no there’s only one.
@hardnrg8000
@hardnrg8000 4 года назад
@griffin tucker you don't get it. There is only one way to arrange it. By having it empty.
@ArcanusEst
@ArcanusEst 4 года назад
ME (NOT A MATHEMATICIAN): "But I don't get it, how do you arrange nothing?" JAMES: "Would you like to see it?" ME: "Yes." JAMES: "There it is." ME: "...oh." JAMES: "Would you like to see it again?" ME: "...maybe." JAMES: "There it is." ME: "...okay."
@louisrobitaille5810
@louisrobitaille5810 Год назад
"How do you arrange nothing" in maths is the same thing as asking "How many different ways can you arrange 0 objects?" The answer is then simple to see. There's only one way to arrange 0 objects, i.e. the one you're looking at: no arrangement. Therefore, you can arrange 0 objects 1 way.
@mpekim
@mpekim 4 года назад
4:24 you wanna see me arrange these objects? You wanna see me do it again?
@abhinandpaulm8858
@abhinandpaulm8858 2 года назад
😆
@TheLycanDragon
@TheLycanDragon 8 лет назад
We need t-shirts saying "You've broken maths brady!"
@redredroze
@redredroze 8 лет назад
-stop that
@zatoichiMiyamoto
@zatoichiMiyamoto 8 лет назад
Shut up and take my money!
@anonymous071985
@anonymous071985 8 лет назад
I'd buy one. At least consider it.
@grantmacdonald3904
@grantmacdonald3904 8 лет назад
I bid $100
@084surajrao6
@084surajrao6 8 лет назад
I second that
@uuu12343
@uuu12343 7 лет назад
"See who says mathematicians don't make a lot of money, there's literally 50p here" Your sense of humour satisfies me
@ethangoldsmith9332
@ethangoldsmith9332 6 лет назад
What is 'p'? is it pound?
@kedymera6164
@kedymera6164 6 лет назад
no, it's "pence" (one pence = 1p = £0.01)
@ninajoyce9906
@ninajoyce9906 6 лет назад
Ethan Goldsmith you uncultured swine!! -(joke)
@SpyridonJohn1633
@SpyridonJohn1633 5 лет назад
Eternia Dr. James has an awesome sense of humour. "How many way of arranging 0 objects. There it is. Wanna see me do it again? There it is!"
@RMate-bu7se
@RMate-bu7se 5 лет назад
@@SpyridonJohn1633 that me made smile :)
@commenturthegreat2915
@commenturthegreat2915 4 года назад
Programmers: "Well yeah obviously 0 isn't equal to 1..."
@kiroo886
@kiroo886 4 года назад
"quantum computer say hello"
@joelschama1735
@joelschama1735 4 года назад
Code monkeys: 0≠1, but 0!=1.
@leetfukk
@leetfukk 4 года назад
@@joelschama1735 In a lot of common programming languages, != means "does not equal"
@joelschama1735
@joelschama1735 4 года назад
@@leetfukk It also means factorial. And 0!=1. I've done a lot of programming, and ! checks to see if two operands are equal or not as in "(A!=B) true" and if they are not equal the function runs. My only point was that as a codemonkey in binary 0≠1, yet in pure mathematics 0!=1.
@Missiletainn
@Missiletainn 4 года назад
Well, most programming languages count from 0, so the 1st object in a list is 0
@zmanitee1664
@zmanitee1664 4 года назад
Mathematicians: Does 0 !=1? Programmers: Well yes, but actually yes
@JonathanMandrake
@JonathanMandrake 3 года назад
Well, the only thing in the factorials programmers have a problem with: 1!=1
@oenrn
@oenrn 3 года назад
@@JonathanMandrake 2!=2
@geryz7549
@geryz7549 3 года назад
and that's why you use spaces...
@LSC69
@LSC69 2 года назад
@@geryz7549 programming languages that use white space are considered bad
@MrAlRats
@MrAlRats 2 года назад
The very first programming language that I was introduced to in school used the symbols "" for "not equal to", which makes more sense because it means "greater than or less than". It's unfortunate that not all languages use "".
@MisterBones2910
@MisterBones2910 8 лет назад
I liked the cheeky little zoom to get a more detailed shot of the nothing.
@laurel8831
@laurel8831 9 лет назад
I wish he was my math teacher ..
@numberphile
@numberphile 9 лет назад
Joshua Rage well today he was!
@laurel8831
@laurel8831 9 лет назад
Numberphile I'm sure this wasn't the last time! :)
@Zenovarse
@Zenovarse 9 лет назад
-1!=?
@SteveMcRae
@SteveMcRae 9 лет назад
Zenovarse -1!= -1Remember, you always do factorials first then apply the unary operator for the negation.
@thatoneguy9582
@thatoneguy9582 9 лет назад
Zenovarse -1!=-1 because -5!=-120 since -5 times -4 times -3 times -2 times -1=-120. You would think -5 times -4 times -3 times -2=-120 but it equals 120 since -1 in multiplication makes the answer negative.
@Azulmine
@Azulmine 4 года назад
“We have zero objects” *zooms in on blank paper*
@debajyotidas655
@debajyotidas655 4 года назад
In 6:04 min the Gamma function had a little bit of mistake. The gamma function is written as: Gamma fn(n)= Integral of t^(n-1)*exp(-t) dt NOT Gamma fn(n)= Integral of t^(n-1)*exp(-n) dn
@sunandinighosh6037
@sunandinighosh6037 3 года назад
I was looking for this cause n is a number where as t was the variable...thanx
@williamcoles5149
@williamcoles5149 3 года назад
@@sunandinighosh6037 i was thinking "how can you differentiate with respect to a constant?" I am learning calc and thought i missed something
@shoutitallloud
@shoutitallloud 3 года назад
I don't uderstand quite what is "t" here. Could you explain please?
@derenglander7995
@derenglander7995 3 года назад
@@shoutitallloud t is just a variable here, without deeper meaning behind it. It can take values between 0 and infinity. The function is then integrated over t, and the solution of that happens to be (n-1)! It's quite interesting, and you can show that this relation is true, but that requires knowledge of integration, and is quite complicated.
@williamcoles5149
@williamcoles5149 3 года назад
@@shoutitallloud the variable of integration
@diabolicallink
@diabolicallink 9 лет назад
You've broken maths Brady stop that
@mindspunk
@mindspunk 8 лет назад
thats the funniest thing I've ever heard on this channel
@Julio7514
@Julio7514 8 лет назад
that was amazing
@erics.451
@erics.451 8 лет назад
+diabolicallink Ikr I told my dad that
@davidjoffe-hunter7016
@davidjoffe-hunter7016 8 лет назад
That was the best
@jarto10
@jarto10 8 лет назад
+diabolicallink I went to the comments just after hearing that sentence convinced that it had not gone unnoticed, and I wasn't dissapointed!
@yoloswaggins2161
@yoloswaggins2161 5 лет назад
I hate it when people flex their overflowing wealth like that.
@DoneWN
@DoneWN 4 года назад
@Lo Po I think you missed the joke my friend
@lindakan9809
@lindakan9809 4 года назад
@Lo Po r/woosh
@wellshit9489
@wellshit9489 4 года назад
@Lo Po james ain't rich I'm guessing
@manw3bttcks
@manw3bttcks 4 года назад
I was more upset with the idea of coins in a wallet, do many people do that?
@earthtoashlyn
@earthtoashlyn 4 года назад
manw3bttcks where else would you put them
@gulshantiwari722
@gulshantiwari722 4 года назад
This is the most satisfying explanation I have come across about the zero factorial. On top of the technical, division proof, you made it very easy to understand in practical terms.
@andrewkoper9170
@andrewkoper9170 Год назад
I really like the way you arranged the zero objects. You are a true artist.
@ariadumler410
@ariadumler410 6 лет назад
I love Dr. Grimes he has such an enthusiasm to him that i absolutely adore
@CONGTHEGUERILLA
@CONGTHEGUERILLA 3 года назад
Fr hes not even tryin to teach hes just having a blast
@-enzyme
@-enzyme 3 года назад
Big facks
@jlew92xx
@jlew92xx 3 года назад
Love him too
@tionier9312
@tionier9312 3 года назад
@@-enzyme Bbbb Bbfff
@yvaskhmir
@yvaskhmir 3 года назад
Isn't it like a common thing on this channel?
@hlynurgumundsson6979
@hlynurgumundsson6979 7 лет назад
2:56 'You've broken maths Brady, STOP THAT!!!'
@JuniorBloxHD
@JuniorBloxHD 4 года назад
Me seeing the thumbnail as a programmer: *hmm yes the floor is made out of floor*
@jhon5916
@jhon5916 4 года назад
Junior roblox
@enzoqueijao
@enzoqueijao 4 года назад
I'm not a programmer what do you mean
@linobigatti
@linobigatti 4 года назад
!= is the difference operator 0 != 1 means "zero is different from one"
@ontley
@ontley 4 года назад
@@KieranHelix heh? What
@zoklev
@zoklev 4 года назад
more like: _the floor isn't made out of doors_
@MattMcIrvin
@MattMcIrvin 3 года назад
The way I would say it is: when presented with these situations that sort of break the assumptions of a naive formula (like raising something to the power of zero, or finding zero factorial, or figuring whether or not 1 is prime), it's convenient for mathematicians to just decide on a consistent *convention*. They can leave the answer undefined, or they can assign a value, and what generally happens is that the value is assigned in such a way as to make general calculations easier, without having to add some extra specifications about special cases all the time. In this case, saying 0! = 1 is the least awkward choice for general formulae. It means that n! = n *(n-1)! is true even for n=1. It means that you can write the Taylor series expansion for a function using factorials in a consistent way, without having a special case for n=0. And there are a lot of other areas where this is the most convenient choice.
@Kpac_
@Kpac_ 2 года назад
I appreciate this explanation more than the one in the video. Thank you.
@crazygamelover1651
@crazygamelover1651 6 лет назад
"Hi, -1 factorial?" "Sorry, mathematics broke" "Understandable, have a nice day"
@davidgalindez4856
@davidgalindez4856 8 лет назад
"there it is, wanna see me do it again? there it is!" xD
@daviddlamini4290
@daviddlamini4290 8 лет назад
+Dave Galindez hahahaa that killed m
@maccyio1327
@maccyio1327 8 лет назад
Damn AHAHAHAHAEHEAHEHEAHEIHIHIHEHIEHII
@Alishah189
@Alishah189 8 лет назад
haha, made my day
@MegaMGstudios
@MegaMGstudios 8 лет назад
read this at the exact moment he said it, and its my first time watching this vid
@ShakilHashmi
@ShakilHashmi 6 лет назад
Loved that actually...
@noobmaster31
@noobmaster31 4 года назад
Love this channel! Opens up my mind to new mathematical ideas and refreshes me on ones I already knew.
@chrisrobertson1443
@chrisrobertson1443 Год назад
i could watch videos of James all day, whether i understand what he's talking about or not his enthusiasm is so infectious he makes everything interesting
@CarstenSvendsen
@CarstenSvendsen 7 лет назад
The zoom in on "nothing" just made my day
@VoidHalo
@VoidHalo 6 лет назад
Haha I noticed that too.
@VencottOutdoors
@VencottOutdoors 5 лет назад
2:55 1÷0
@HyperSpify
@HyperSpify 10 лет назад
All of us programmers read "0!=1" as: zero is not equal to one, which also happens to be true.
@muradalichanna7597
@muradalichanna7597 3 года назад
So contagious and engaging the way he carries his argument. ❤️
@harmenbreedeveld8026
@harmenbreedeveld8026 3 года назад
My lightbulb really went on when you said that n factorial represents the number of ways you can organize n objects. Because I was just wondering about applications for n factorial. Thanks for that remark!
@therealepicguy
@therealepicguy 10 лет назад
so -1! breaks math and 1! is 1 well that's discrimination!
@tacchinotacchi
@tacchinotacchi 9 лет назад
The cover of this video says "0!=1" In computer programming "!=" is a logic operator that returns true when the two numbers are different. In simplier words, it means "is different from". I read "0 != 1" and said "No shit"
@churchmanner
@churchmanner 9 лет назад
Find 'N' Frag LOL...so you read it as "zero is not equal to one" that's hilarious
@AnkaaAvarshina
@AnkaaAvarshina 9 лет назад
Programmer jokes. I love you.
@rich1051414
@rich1051414 9 лет назад
Sapphire Shard Was it a joke? I am a programmer too, and I did the same thing. More of an observation really :P
@salmjak
@salmjak 9 лет назад
Actually != is written as a = With a dash in it (on paper). I program a lot as a hobby and I still understood what the title ment. Basically because "!=" is only ever used in programming and not in writing.
@rich1051414
@rich1051414 9 лет назад
salmjak "As a hobby". If you did it for a living, you would be reading more code, than nearly anything else :P
@jonathantoothbreaker8786
@jonathantoothbreaker8786 2 года назад
when he says “wanna see me do it again, there it is” gesturing to the empty piece of paper, my day was made
@loganisanerd5566
@loganisanerd5566 3 года назад
I love this channel, and 2:54 is such a perfect moment to encapsulate the whole thing.
@cluckendip
@cluckendip 5 лет назад
"You've broken maths, stop it" I love this channel
@michaelwinter742
@michaelwinter742 7 лет назад
He doesn't do drugs. He does maths. It gets him so high he can graph an exponential function in Cartesian coordinates.
@rewrose2838
@rewrose2838 7 лет назад
?
@michaelwinter742
@michaelwinter742 7 лет назад
Rew Rose Exponential growth quickly does not fit on a Cartesian coordinate system. We use logarithmic graphing for exponential growth curves.
@rewrose2838
@rewrose2838 7 лет назад
Michael Winter ok . . . ( why though? )
@oivanhoi2249
@oivanhoi2249 7 лет назад
Michael Winter
@michaelwinter742
@michaelwinter742 7 лет назад
Rew Rose there is only a small usable range of exponential growth in Cartesian space. Here is an example of exponential growth: 2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512,1024,2048 What do you think is the best range to understand and use that data?
@naiale6974
@naiale6974 2 года назад
2:23 I love how you can see the “oh shit” in his eyes when he knows he can’t answer the question
@edgargonzalesbutron9844
@edgargonzalesbutron9844 3 года назад
Brilliant and concise explanations for O! and the so useful Gamma function. Thanks a lot Dr James!!
@anuj8825
@anuj8825 5 лет назад
2:55 *math.exe has stopped working*
@anandsuralkar2947
@anandsuralkar2947 5 лет назад
Lol tumbhh Error exception 000xxxxx0x00x
@dr.stephen.strange
@dr.stephen.strange 4 года назад
Rather my brain.exe has stopped working
@xxxBradTxxx
@xxxBradTxxx 4 года назад
l'hopital's rule
@JohnOh0701
@JohnOh0701 10 лет назад
I hate when math breaks
@asdf9C
@asdf9C 9 дней назад
You should be given an award for proving that we do not understand 0 at all, I think.. You are a super cool and twisted person for even thinking of this. Hats off. You made math interesting, and I think also proved we have more to learn about our understanding of it.
@wezpa
@wezpa 2 года назад
The camera work during the arranging of one coin is amazing. Loving the zoom - made me laugh.
@videoswithmax7188
@videoswithmax7188 6 лет назад
2:53 is the funniest part of any video I've seen
@GregTom2
@GregTom2 9 лет назад
I was sort of expecting the paper to burst into flames when they tried (-1)!
@Woodside235
@Woodside235 9 лет назад
Technically you can do negative factorials. It's undefined at negative integers, though.
@Woodside235
@Woodside235 9 лет назад
***** The factorial function can be extended to be Γ(x+1), so.
@Sylocat
@Sylocat 9 лет назад
Well, I just typed "This sentence is false" and my keyboard didn't explode, so...
@manmanman784
@manmanman784 9 лет назад
dt!
@robertojarrin3634
@robertojarrin3634 9 лет назад
0!/0=-1! 0!=1 1/0=-1! -1! is undefined
@nightseer1663
@nightseer1663 3 года назад
"There is zero objects" *Zooms in on the paper*
@rftghjkyui
@rftghjkyui Год назад
The moment you say "there isn't" is so insightful and comical, thanks!
@serendipity9defined
@serendipity9defined 10 лет назад
You've broken math Brady! Stop that.
@redtaileddolphin1875
@redtaileddolphin1875 7 лет назад
My favourite part of he video is when James takes away the last coin and Brady zooms in on an empty spot on a table (yes I know it's to show the 0 objects but out of context it's hilarious)
@nickparry4997
@nickparry4997 4 года назад
Has a huge blackboard Wastes sharpie and cardboard
@RoKishDubbz
@RoKishDubbz 4 года назад
They hoard chalk, mate
@shambosaha9727
@shambosaha9727 4 года назад
It is brown paper
@demonking86420
@demonking86420 4 года назад
@n a they do lines of chalk
@NoriMori1992
@NoriMori1992 3 года назад
This is their brand, man.
@_t03r
@_t03r 4 года назад
6:04 No one noticed, that it should be the integral of t^(n-1) e^(-t) dt instead?
@chaktr466
@chaktr466 4 года назад
I was going through the comments to check that too
@colinn4239
@colinn4239 4 года назад
yeah really bothers me
@mikeyn7778
@mikeyn7778 3 года назад
It was a human error
@Nimanames
@Nimanames 3 года назад
THANK YOU! I had to scroll down A LOT to find your comment, it was driving me crazy!
@mariafe7050
@mariafe7050 3 года назад
He said that in the description.
@odycmboden3580
@odycmboden3580 8 лет назад
"youve broken math! stop that"
@szymongorczynski7621
@szymongorczynski7621 8 лет назад
Maths***
@remavas5470
@remavas5470 8 лет назад
+Szymon Gorczynski It's an UK and US thing: US uses math and UK uses maths
@szymongorczynski7621
@szymongorczynski7621 8 лет назад
Remavas Yes, I know the Americans can't spell.
@flawlessgenius
@flawlessgenius 8 лет назад
+Szymon Gorczynski h!=hs thats why 'stop that' wasnt exclaimed
@szymongorczynski7621
@szymongorczynski7621 8 лет назад
flawlessgenius And where did I question that?
@HeroRaze
@HeroRaze 8 лет назад
I read the thumbnail as "zero is not equal to one". lol
@Lucifer00011
@Lucifer00011 8 лет назад
the struggles R real!
@Lucifer00011
@Lucifer00011 8 лет назад
the struggles R real!
@pkermen
@pkermen 8 лет назад
+Ryan G-P return true;
@jursamaj
@jursamaj 8 лет назад
+JusesCrustes Unless the struggles are integer or complex. :)
@ikasu00
@ikasu00 8 лет назад
>>>print 0!=1 True
@iqbalmridha7711
@iqbalmridha7711 2 года назад
tremendous explanation. I owe to you for providing us with such a crucial lesson
@jordantheoneandonly3880
@jordantheoneandonly3880 4 года назад
It was cool to see him go into continuous factorials at the end, as a math major, I haven’t learned that yet
@yosefmacgruber1920
@yosefmacgruber1920 6 месяцев назад
Yeah, I loved that he at least mentioned continuous factorials. Although I was looking for a video that much better explained that. I would like to know how I could calculate the exact value of (1/2)! by hand.
@pedroheck3667
@pedroheck3667 7 лет назад
2:56 I don't know why but I laughed so hard
@NotQuiteFirst
@NotQuiteFirst 7 лет назад
i know why
@explosu
@explosu 7 лет назад
I can't believe you've done this.
@Golha2505
@Golha2505 6 лет назад
its like hes bullying math
@demonstalker7925
@demonstalker7925 6 лет назад
I laughed to at that XD
@aaronjuarez7470
@aaronjuarez7470 5 лет назад
Hahahahahah, sameeee
@ashishjog
@ashishjog 7 лет назад
"0!=1" well that's quite obvious for Programmers!!!
@bowel_movement
@bowel_movement 5 лет назад
!0 == 1 but, !0 !== 1
@hachikouji1850
@hachikouji1850 5 лет назад
@@bowel_movement 0!=1
@TheMegaxPlus
@TheMegaxPlus 5 лет назад
@@bowel_movement you forgot the semicolons. That's going to explode
@pheonix3862
@pheonix3862 5 лет назад
@@TheMegaxPlus that's only if it's c#
@Xnoob545
@Xnoob545 5 лет назад
!0. Not 0 = 1 *BINARY QUCK MAFFS*
@the_venomous_viper1234
@the_venomous_viper1234 4 года назад
*zero objects* _INTENSE ZOOMING_ *Nothingness intensifies*
@antwisteven4779
@antwisteven4779 2 года назад
Mathematics is a spirit and I’ve been impacted very much. I’m really appreciating your goodness
@davidwhickox
@davidwhickox 9 лет назад
3:12 *pulls out his entire life savings*
@MarineNinja
@MarineNinja 8 лет назад
philosophically i think there are infinite ways to order 0 objects.
@EmperorZelos
@EmperorZelos 8 лет назад
+sharon f Okey, present 2 different ways.
@victorfeltes
@victorfeltes 8 лет назад
+sharon f Or alternatively, there are zero ways to order 0 objects.
@EmperorZelos
@EmperorZelos 8 лет назад
Fr. Victor Feltes But there is at least one way, namelyin no order.
@victorfeltes
@victorfeltes 8 лет назад
***** It's like asking the question, "How many times can you divide by zero?" I could see the answer being 0, 1, or ∞ but, as it is, the answer remains "undefined."
@EmperorZelos
@EmperorZelos 8 лет назад
Except that question is malformed as it assumes an inverse of 0 exists which it doesn't
@antoniomrubio
@antoniomrubio 4 года назад
Thank you for correcting the formula for gamma(n) in the description.
@fazlurahmanshaik7572
@fazlurahmanshaik7572 3 года назад
Brilliant. Great teacher. 0! = 1! = 1. Very tempting drop off the factorial notation and we get 0 = 1.
@boogathon
@boogathon 2 года назад
You've broken the maths!
@Arkalius80
@Arkalius80 10 лет назад
For all the people unsatisfied with the explanations offered by the video, how about we just rely on the base definition of the factorial? The factorial of a non-negative integer n (n!) is defined as the product of all positive integers less than or equal to n. There are no positive integers less than or equal to 0, so 0! is the empty product, or the product of no numbers. The empty product is defined to be the multiplicative identity, which is 1. (Just like the empty sum is the additive identity, which is 0).
@KarstenOkk
@KarstenOkk 9 лет назад
I wasn't satisfied with the "complete the pattern"-explanation but the coin method makes sense, since that's what factorial is really meant for.
@aunibbww
@aunibbww 9 лет назад
Pravat Kiran Timsina or psychological minors? xD
@Acsabi44
@Acsabi44 9 лет назад
or we could rely on another definition of factorial, which is n!=(something)*n. You multiply all the numbers less than, and equal to, n. Now following this logic, 0! = (something)*0. Anything multiplied by 0 is 0 so 0!=0.
@ivo
@ivo 9 лет назад
Arkalius80 0 is where the graphs start. Its not on either side of the graphs, its not negative, but its also not positive SO you can't have 0! as 0 is not "non-negative" the same way he decided to stop completing the pattern at -1 since it's wrong. Its equally wrong to do it with 0 !!!!
@sempaid12345
@sempaid12345 9 лет назад
You can also just use another statement of the definition of a factorial: For whole number n, n! = n(n-1)! Plugging in 1, you end up with 1! = 1(1-1)! = 1(0)! From the very leftmost term, we know 1!= 1, through transitivity, we now know 1=1*0!=0! Therefor, 0! must be 1
@speedyguy8
@speedyguy8 9 лет назад
You've broken maths, stop that! lol
@t0k4m4k7
@t0k4m4k7 9 лет назад
xD
@Palettegirl
@Palettegirl 3 года назад
"Who says mathematicians don't make any money? There's literally ***50 p*** here!" I've never laughed so hard in a numberphile video
@georgemckenzie2525
@georgemckenzie2525 4 года назад
Thank you for what brings you joy
@ashenold
@ashenold 10 лет назад
You've broken maths, Brady, stop that...
@thekenmatax18
@thekenmatax18 7 лет назад
Everything was completely fine until the Gamma thing kicked in.
@iamthinking2252_
@iamthinking2252_ 7 лет назад
thekenmatax at least I have a half baked idea of what γ is... Sort of
@zachn2876
@zachn2876 7 лет назад
The lowercase gamma is used for Euler-Mascheroni constant. The gamma function is always denoted by the uppercase gamma.
@RobShmit
@RobShmit 7 лет назад
All I know is that it ended WW2, haha
@kgeorgeg7
@kgeorgeg7 7 лет назад
he drew/wrote it in his own way of calligraphy... Gamma upercase is that - Γ - you may know it that way.
@rudi-gs2pd
@rudi-gs2pd 7 лет назад
same here
@benguiles6252
@benguiles6252 2 года назад
This is a great lesson in the difference between what a mathematical operation is and how to compute it.
@CalikL
@CalikL 4 года назад
It’s funny how very simple change of perspective can show totally different solution. Where I come from any factorial is 1x2x3x..etc. I know it sounds silly but putting it ‘from behind’ -> 3x2x1 actually changes my perspective and understanding
@isaacmartinez2623
@isaacmartinez2623 8 лет назад
"You broken maths Braidy. Stop that!" 😂 I love numberphile.
@supermanadamio
@supermanadamio 8 лет назад
I love the way the camera zooms in on the zero objects.
@dominicmarcone2187
@dominicmarcone2187 2 года назад
4:12 : “We have zero objects” Camera : *zooms in for a closer look*
@lachlanokeefe8020
@lachlanokeefe8020 Год назад
so basically the factorial function is defined such that it works how we want it to work.
@RichardOpokuEngineer
@RichardOpokuEngineer 5 лет назад
Took such a short time to make me understand this. Now I can use it boldly without having to memorize anything.
@Antho9
@Antho9 4 года назад
3:59 I love the dramatic zoom in
@paddy.r.l4791
@paddy.r.l4791 4 года назад
Also see 4:13
@aryanagrawal9103
@aryanagrawal9103 4 года назад
Everything was going fine. Then came 5:38
@leocharpentier4412
@leocharpentier4412 4 года назад
Really yuh
@blow-by-blowtrumpet
@blow-by-blowtrumpet 4 года назад
Exactly my experience. I was feeling quite smug up to that point.
@VandroiyIII
@VandroiyIII 3 года назад
Yea lol, but they fixed it, see "show more" t isn't even defined, nor is he integrating over it. Bit of a derp there. Replace t with n and... EDIT: WAIT, no. This still makes no sense lol. Just look up the actual gamma function haha.
@Nova04550
@Nova04550 2 года назад
I love this guys' passion for math
@abdullahozgur
@abdullahozgur 7 лет назад
You are much better than my math teacher
@B3Band
@B3Band 7 лет назад
He's also much better than you. And so is your math teacher.
@user-kc4oj5vs4v
@user-kc4oj5vs4v 7 лет назад
Bloodbath and Beyond Well that was rude. no need to put people down because you had a bad day.
@B3Band
@B3Band 7 лет назад
I had a great day, made better by your reaction :)
@Peter_1986
@Peter_1986 7 лет назад
Peter Xenopoulos I usually just Flag those people nowadays, this at least seems to hide their comments so I don't need to see them. xD
@abdullahozgur
@abdullahozgur 7 лет назад
Laurelindo yeah
@lin4cba
@lin4cba 9 лет назад
3:14 "who says Mathematician don't make a lot of money? See I got 50p here" I feel so sorry for them already :( p.s.... nice timing when you says that tho. lol pi
@RedInferno112
@RedInferno112 9 лет назад
"3:14, lol pi" - You need some fresh air....
@gustavmardby9364
@gustavmardby9364 9 лет назад
im sorry but that´s not even close to pi. In fact that is infinitly far away from pi since pi has an infinite amount of decimals. It is the three first number of pi though..
@churchmanner
@churchmanner 9 лет назад
Zain Burney I agree with you.
@ForwardBias
@ForwardBias 9 лет назад
***** To my knowledge, no coding language has pi as a native constant value...... So you would have to manually type in 3.14 each time, or define it in the program for repeated use, Variable=(Value of pi, to however many decimals you are willing to type). Of course, I have yet to actually study programming enough , so this comment could be completely wrong.... it is merely just a speculation.
@ForwardBias
@ForwardBias 9 лет назад
aiklarung "Of course, I have yet to actually study programming enough , so this comment could be completely wrong.... it is merely just a speculation."
@Living_for_Him_Alone
@Living_for_Him_Alone Год назад
Very enlightening video ❤️
@diabl2master
@diabl2master 4 года назад
My favourite reasoning is that it is an _empty product_ and 1 is the multiplicative identity - it _is_ the empty product - the product with no terms. Similarly, a^0 is an empty product. In the same way, an empty sum is 0 - if you use ∑ notation and put the limits as n=0 to n=-1, there are no elements of the sum and it is 0.
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 2 года назад
Exactly! This is also my favorite reasoning. More precisely, you can think of n! as being defined as the product of (1, 2, ..., n). Hence 3! is the product of (1, 2, 3), 2! is the product of (1, 2), 1! is the product of (1), and 0! is the product of (). Since the product of () is 1, 0! = 1.
@Julio7514
@Julio7514 8 лет назад
"You've broken maths, Brady stop that"
@MrSilki2
@MrSilki2 7 лет назад
i saw thumbnail 0!=1 and i thought he explains why zero isn't equal to one... oh programming.
@nikosv6731
@nikosv6731 6 лет назад
Feel u m8
@greekfire995
@greekfire995 6 лет назад
At least you get a true statement regardless.
@Navvye
@Navvye 4 года назад
This reminds me of my favourite quote " If you change nothing, nothing will change"
@arunabhganodwale1022
@arunabhganodwale1022 3 года назад
That's written on my shirt while I am reading this ' If nothing changes, nothing changes'
@BalefulBunyip
@BalefulBunyip 3 года назад
Thanks really interesting. Never heard of non integer factorials before. Nice integral
@attilamagyar91
@attilamagyar91 8 лет назад
0 != 1. Zero is not one. Programmers..?
@Savageboi506
@Savageboi506 8 лет назад
That's what I imagined when I saw the thumbnail xD
@hussainattai4638
@hussainattai4638 8 лет назад
Hahahaha!
@cptshinigami
@cptshinigami 8 лет назад
I was coding in C# just few minutes ago. Then I saw it, that was my first thought.
@Savageboi506
@Savageboi506 7 лет назад
***** You know you were able to write that comment because of JS, right?
@harambe4686
@harambe4686 7 лет назад
Magyar Attila Eyyyy
@Rauz11
@Rauz11 8 лет назад
You broken math Brady! stop that! :D :D :D :D :D
@blehbleheh
@blehbleheh 10 месяцев назад
This and the proof of m^0 = 1 are some of my favorites. They are seemingly inexplicable, yet the proofs are surprisingly simple.
@sola2943
@sola2943 2 месяца назад
The proof for 0! = 1 isn't simple: it's facile. Facile means appearing neat and comprehensive only by ignoring the true complexities of an issue; superficial. In this case, I think it's facile and wrong. I am certain that, leaving aside what it actually equals (which I say is 0), 0! does not equal 1 if one applies their mind to the matter in line with the explained definition of what a factorial is.
@garethpearce8699
@garethpearce8699 4 года назад
I think it's worth stressing here that there's a certain pragmatism to extending definitions beyond their initial domain. Factorial is well defined for the natural numbers. It's a useful function there, so maybe it's worth finding a natural extension of that in other domains. When we add 0 to the natural numbers, setting f(0)=1 preserves a bunch of properties that we like about factorial.
@Living_for_Him_Alone
@Living_for_Him_Alone Год назад
Thank you ❤️
@ryles5069
@ryles5069 9 лет назад
"You've broken Maths, Brady, stop that!"
@kalokal5812
@kalokal5812 7 лет назад
0! = 1 0 != 1 There's a difference
@RabbiShekelGrabbersixgorrilion
yeah one is used in programming and the other one is not.
@ethangoldsmith9332
@ethangoldsmith9332 6 лет назад
The difference is a space
@manjunathhegde3146
@manjunathhegde3146 6 лет назад
n-1!=n!÷n .take n=1gives0!=1!=1÷1=1
@human3507
@human3507 6 лет назад
Kalokal 0!=1 0 !≠1 because: 0(0)!=0(1)=0 (Nothing means 0, and also multiplication)
@alexrr9264
@alexrr9264 6 лет назад
Both are true
@Dvadtsat
@Dvadtsat Год назад
I love things like this. Because it forces you to have a complete understanding of the process. Like exponent zero.
@sola2943
@sola2943 2 месяца назад
It's nonsense though. 0! isn't 1. That's a mathematical handwave so that some models can continue to exist. It has no basis in reality.
@Liravin
@Liravin 4 года назад
that thumbnail expression is PERFECTION
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