Zhao Ming Immortal Empires Campaign Review

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@Erik_Dz Год назад

for melee ogre units, Zhao Ming's Lord trait also works. Ending up at 75% reduced upkeep. It is a weird thing for a Legendary Lord to have such a substantial buff to units from another faction. He gets cheaper Ogres than the ogre factions can get.

@MrBlueSleeves 11 месяцев назад

Unfortunately Ogre melee units are quite mediocre as they don't give Yang and do not benefit from the very powerful upgrades you end up getting. Maybe i'd consider having the capped amount if I have access to ironguts or mournfang as these guys are solid additions.

@x0lopossum Год назад

This part of the map is so different and I love it. Its like... Asia.

@TheAlienpope Год назад

This campaign has to be one of the most fun campaigns I've played early to mid game. Quite a few strong factions around you. Skaven, dark elves, vampires, greenskins and chaos. Challenging, fun and rewarding.

@RichyRich2607 Год назад

I find their army rooster super boring tho.

@TheAlienpope Год назад

@@RichyRich2607 It could use some more variety yeah, the same with the Kislev roster. But it's not bad

@Faelivri Год назад

Don't forget lizards. Stupid Nakai was playing "catch me if you can!" with me for a good amount of time (even sending peace deals, cowardly little git), and then there was his second army to deal with.

@melliflously5058 Год назад

@@Faelivri LOL I had to hold in my laugh while on my flight idk why it was so funny

@Totaluser1 Год назад

Early and midgame is fun, i think the problem with his campaign is that once you conquered Cathay, there's no more good territory for a while until you get past the dark lands or go across sea lanes

@Lark88 Год назад

It was funny that you said that Ghorst will probably declare war on you because in my Sisters of Twilight campaign, I went to day my tree from Ghorst and found out that he and Zhao Ming were military allies. I took care of Ghorst quickly enough, but then I had to deal with Zhao Ming's Empire for a while.

@Johann_Gambolputty_of_Ulm Год назад

Same in my case steamrol...playing as Vlad. Good thing i was BBF with Zhao, so Ghorst instantly liked me as well. But yeah, playing as Zhao... antiplayer bias is a vexing thing 😑

@fatwe1992 Год назад

My favorite thing about him is that he's like the black sheep of the family. Very honorable and intelligent but seen as eccentric and a bit of a weirdo. Probably from all that warpstone exposure.

@montsaint-michel9443 Год назад

To be fair, everyone sends caravan to drakenhof, and nobody gives that sword to some nobody. Miao Ying also has regeneration.

@macanudo6206 Год назад

Breton ou normand

@riley_028 Год назад

you can give her regen, but Zhao Ming gets it without having to use up a weapon slot. so he could use something else that Miao Ying couldn't

@alejandrotuazon4831 Год назад

@@riley_028 this is why I have Miao Ying trying to hunt down Isabella for her defeat trait, to free up the weapon slot for something else 😂

@mattisuber222 Год назад

@@alejandrotuazon4831 Isabella defeat trait... in Immortal Empires... right... right...You're definitely not BSing... right

@ajitae1460 Год назад

@@mattisuber222 you actually can if vlad got viped out before crisis, it revive isabella as a lord

@SpectrumSO Год назад

Surprised you said that Ghorst would declare. From Ghorst's perspective Zhao Ming was a stable ally, and from the outside they looked like they had a good relationship. Only having -10 aversion between them is wild.

@Gritty1983 Год назад

Legend is the best

@nasir6r996 Год назад

I daresay,he is a legend

@danielszabo7988 Год назад

You didn't mention desert armour, desert weapons and iron strength. Those skills are unique to him and give some reasonable buffs to his army, especially melee units. Also, I think he might be strongest 1 man doomstack in the game, you can get 76% ward save as Zhao Ming plus he has regeneration.

@TheRewasder97 Год назад

Those skills actually make him a quite good commander, his melee units can get quite good, and all of it affects sentinels too. Regarding the one man doomstack, I don't think he's better than Malus, but he's a close second for sure.

@user-zh1hz1gq1l Год назад

@@TheRewasder97 he is better that miao ying and miao ying is better than malus so I think he is better overall

@danielszabo7988 Год назад

@@TheRewasder97 Yeah, I agree, his melee units can get really strong with those skills. I have managed to make him a really strong 1 man doomstack, 12k hp, over 100 melee attack and defence and over 700 armour piercing weapon damage. But still, Malus might be the best.

@TheRewasder97 Год назад

@@user-zh1hz1gq1l she's not stronger as a one man doomstack, she simply doesn't have two healthbars and easy 90% resistance. She's better with dealing with infantry, until Tzarkan and his skills at least, but Malus is way better against single entities.

@user-zh1hz1gq1l Год назад

@@TheRewasder97 true but malus doesn’t have spells

@LBDA81 Год назад

Finally, I waited so long for this campaign review

@TuffLP Год назад

0:55 For me Ghorst was my best friend as Zhao Ming. Zombie bro holding the West while i beat up Snikch and Lokhir.

@421less1 Год назад

Might be different now, but he was the only one i finshed the main campaign with. Basically turtled to the win and slowly confederated the rest of cathay and just had armies spread out to close rifts. His economy is just so strong

@Shane2020xxx Год назад

The other option on rifts is, if you build the Torch series of defense buildings, no rifts will appear in that province. So you can preemptively keep your provinces cleansed, maybe let one appear to dive through.

@nonesuch6833 Год назад

"If Grimgor comes smashing through..." yeah he always does that. I've played in that general area three or four times now and I've never seen Greasus not get rolled by him.

@mailimittari135 Год назад

In my campaigns greasus always gets wrecked by ghorst while grimgor doesnt even bother with ogres, going instead to darklands.

@BailensdeLykenos Год назад

*IRON! DRAGUN!*

@gregoryshinn9805 Год назад

Thanks for the video

@evilgenius396 Год назад

Ah finally. Thanks mate

@kennethward5564 Год назад

The main upside to Zhao is you can leave the north provinces to defend the constant Kurgan warband invasions and just focus on removing lothir/skaven and then kill ghorst As miao ying it was annoying have to spend resources to ensure I hold the gates on legendary, her start takes longer

@mrh1390 Год назад

When I played this campaign I got the mortis engine item (Catalytic Kiln I think) from the very first battle. Sent Zhao Ming off by himself with the alchemist to boost movement range immediately after dealing with Snitch and one-man steam-rolled everything in his path, without even really putting effort into making him a one-man doomstack.

@Amir-by2xh Год назад

Playing this campaign right now. Finfished 40 settlements at turn 30 vh/vh. This campaign is the easiest one so far. Good chances to confederate

@vaskil99 Год назад

As always, a great video with a solid breakdown. Honestly, I think Zhao has some kinda underwhelming faction effects. As Miao Ying, I discovered Cathay can become an economic powerhouse quite easily, so Zhao's bonus for the caravans is just a nice addition more than a must have. I had no idea about getting ogre mercenaries outside of an alliance and rarely would use them, so that 50% reduction in upkeep would be wasted for me. The +15 armor for melee units is quite good but not nearly as good as Miao's bonuses for ranged units, as Cathay seems to rely more on ranged units.

@nogsan884 Год назад

Funny thing with this campaign, I got an event where all Cathay improved relations, we all became allies and declared war together. Problem is all enemies attacked me only.

@redluke8119 Год назад

I love Cathay I always tell people great WH3 campaigns and I love the great bastion. Super good campaigns either LL for Cathay are great for beginners

@catnipnapkin3329 Год назад

I'm currently 139 turns into my Miao Ying IE campaign, and around turn 50 I confederated Zhao and him and his army have so far performed a lot better at keeping invaders at bay, and taking over the Ogre territories (now vampire counts lol).

@calebgrinnell5461 Год назад

Thanks much bruv! Appreciate all the effort as always!

@melle4390 Год назад

In both Cathayan campaigns I've had Grimgor come over to wreck the Ogres and walk over them. I like the buffer that the the big neighbours give so sometimes I send over a decent stack of something to help defend/reconquer their lands.

@gijskramer1702 Год назад

That regen is going to bite him in the arse when fighting the chaos dwarfs

@michaelfetter4541 Год назад

AI Zhao allies with Ghorst in almost every one of my campaigns.

@josgretf2800 Год назад

Ghorst is friendly to me in all my games as Cathay

@fiveforbiting Год назад

Just about time for a Cathay Campaign..I started one before, but the gun units were so janky I couldn't continue.

@TisTheWay Год назад

Looking forward to a Boris campaign overview

@cohortConnor Год назад

Zhao Ming should have -50% upkeep for melee units just like his sister gets for ranged units.

@signoreVanici Год назад

@Legend Thx a lot There aren't too many lords left to review, so maybe the next serie could be again first 20 turns guides? Or (re)new tier rankings? Comparison of subjectively the best playing styles with a given lord/faction?

@regalgiant1597 Год назад

Me: Where is Legend of Total War? Them: 0:01

@official_kden Год назад

played zhao at the start of this year. overall had some enjoyment from his campaign. fire rain rockets go brrrr. but the cathayan roster is still so small that endgame didnt really feel that exiting, building the army units over and over

@angelopueyygarcia43 Год назад

Agreed, after my first playthrough with Miao Ying, I downloaded a fuckton of mods for Cathay, basically made my own Cathay dlc lmao. 2nd campaign was definitely a better experience than the first one

@Krispe Год назад

@@angelopueyygarcia43 Any mod recommendations?

@Dianbler Год назад

I don't think it is that bad. You have Sentinels and Dragon Guard, Sky Junk, Jade... Dragons, was it? The flying cavalry; you can still use your gunners and you have some nice artillery to boot. It could use some more Dragon monsters that can fly, maybe some medium monster infantry. I honestly think the mid game roster is much worse. Jade Guardians like you're in China.

@EveloGrave Год назад

Zhao Ming is so much easier than Meow meow. The extra armor even on VH/VH allows him to just auto resolve all battles to conquer the entire of Cathay by like turn 30-40.

@Everhardt94 Год назад

I'd like to see Alberic de Bordeleaux next.

@dumplingshakes22 Год назад

After I secured everything to the right of the start and confederated the gate factions it was basically a wrap. Easily defensible area with good economy.

@dzav8909 Год назад

Power of the Dragon 😡

@AngryCheezburger303 Год назад

Helman actually didn't declare war on me (playing on VH), he offered a non aggression pact lol. In the midgame he got killed by Kugath who then attacked me

@scarletcroc3821 Год назад

Pretty fun campaign, but I usually choose Miao when I want to play as Cathay. Her boosting missile units is just more useful, not just for my playstyle but in general

@kvltofsobek90 Год назад

Does that include artillery or just missile infantry units?

@desfefe Год назад

Miao is so boring as a campaign though. Feels like it lacks challenges. But Zhao Ming's campaign is solid.

@scarletcroc3821 Год назад

@@kvltofsobek90 just missile infantry unfortunately, but one of her faction effects gives +20% ammunitiom to all armies, so she does still give artillery a significant buff

@scarletcroc3821 Год назад

@@desfefe to each their own I suppose, I find Cathay boring in general due to the climate limitations. Maybe it’s better if you use the sea lanes, but Cathay is pretty much surrounded by orange climate if I’m not mistaken and that makes expanding kind of annoying

@desfefe Год назад

@@scarletcroc3821 Oh yeah, that is also what I noticed. It is pretty strange why everything around is orange, but then again from a lore perspective, you wouldn't be seeing cathay expanding that much other than holding the forces of evil from the wall. Looking forward to chaos dwarfs but man, we are in dire need of more DLC.

@Elliott13 Год назад

Oh hey. You get the fog of war flickering bug too

@MrBlond479 Год назад

Miao Jing upkeep reduction only works for missile infantry while Zhao Ming works for all melee units.

@josgretf2800 Год назад

I have never once had Ghorst attack me. Him and Zhao are absolute bros dude, like, whats been going on in your games?

@user-eo1os7th4c Год назад

I love how the comment meta on these videos has shifted to finding obscure things you don't mention and calling you an idiot for it lol 🤓☝️

@TwoTardTop Год назад

and you can do this series all over again when the CHDWARFS come out. all outdated

@steakdriven Год назад

I am amazed the movement bug hasn't been patched...it must be like...intrinsic to the way movement works or something.

@MrAsmil Год назад

Total war is so weird sometimes man, imagine having a free lord with a 50 percent upkeep reduction for essentially dlc only units 😅 I assume all the merc buffs do apply to alliance units but its clearly intended for the ogre merc dlc.

@_FreeMetal_ Год назад

Sorry it's a bit off topic but, how do you manage to have the Skill / character menu windowed ? I just love that, is that a mod ?

@wilcohillebrand1458 Год назад

does the 25% upkeep reduction stack with Ogre reduction 25%? so get you minus 50% upkeep for any melee Ogre units?

@WhichWazzockWantedEmailHandles Год назад

Yes, it also halves the upkeep of any Ogres you recruit into your caravans. (if a caravan ends up in a territory with a friendly camp, it can recruit ogre mercenaries but they aren't free of upkeep).

@TalosLordOfNight Год назад

Still have not played Cathay I’m waiting for the dlc

@millerrepin4452 Год назад

Reject humanity return to monke

@nottabotta2046 Год назад

Is the Forge of the Chaos Dwarves DLC not on Instant Gaming?

@redcrown5154 Год назад

only in europe

@adriltythorin6702 Год назад

If you're quick and dedicate all efforts to it you can take out Sniktch by turn 6-8, and you should do. No other faction is much of a threat early on, but Skaven start weak and get progressively nastier. If you do everything well I was able to conquer or confederate all Cathay by turn ~45 except for your sibling who will eventually come around.

@luvi5463 Год назад

Legend how did you get the "phoenix staff" item (i don't remember the exact name) that gives you a lot of damage resistance?

@manpersal Год назад

I think you're talking about the 'bejewelled dagger' ane theoretically you need to send a caravan somewhere where you've already sent it, but the chance is still low, so you have to keep trying.

@luvi5463 Год назад

@@manpersal Thank you

@imMIB123 Год назад

2:55 maybe im confusing things since i do use mods, but im pretty sure miao ying does also have regen, right?

@jakubs.5966 Год назад

She does not unless you give her an item or get vampire crisis and slay revived Isabella.

@Meisterss Год назад

Is it possible to confederate the other Cathay legendary lord? As Miao Ying I never succeeded...

@rhettmeyers474 Год назад

Lol, “…just go through the motions…” way to sound so enthusiastic about playing this one. I get the feeling LoTW is getting a bit burnt out of playing TW games. Can’t say I blame him considering it’s basically a FT job.

@KazeKoichi Год назад

Is it time for Boris yet?

@kolpere1625 Год назад

I always feel like Cathay is not a complete faction. There is no real leader above all, like KZ for Empire or Thorgrim for Dorfs. I hope we will see some dragon emperor faction soon...

@guitarjacksonblue Год назад

The dragon emperor couple would be too overpowered. Its like not playing as the phoenix king, skavencouncil and so on. I think you get a broader taste of the faction when they eventually add the other dragon siblings

@kolpere1625 Год назад

@@guitarjacksonblue Well, i think we have a dragon sibling governing the central province, innit? Maybe he can be the dragon representative of the entire cathay in the emperors orders.

@guitarjacksonblue Год назад

@@kolpere1625 yeah thought the same. Think he's the Jade Dragon. I see him bringing big administrative buff and boni for visited provinces like Alarielle. Kinda Liu Bu character

@kolpere1625 Год назад

@@guitarjacksonblue As always the administrative ones are the key for success in a world in perpetual war lmao (im looking at you, my smurf primarch from 40k)

@colenowell826 Год назад

Hey Legend, could you do a campaign review for Luthor Harkon? I've got absolutely no idea how to deal with Gor Rok in that campaign.

@Qulize Год назад

Check his playlist. He already did Luthor.

@nailigniststarzear6689 Год назад

one of his problem is Deathmaster trait is trash and even give you demerit....you must (use other lord to) kill him as soon as possible to prevent him to infect your lord with his trash trait... for me NEVER let Zhao Ming get Stalk..it make so much harder to use him after that I will go down to Nakai to get his trait before he somehow die somewhere when I am not looking

@vicente2bravo247 Год назад

Do you think any of the previous games races will get a dlc? Like the dwarf or the empire would much benefit from a dlc or a serious update

@roundthoughts4644 Год назад

I still hope for a Skaven dlc which ads the Verminlord (greater daemon of the horned rat)

@mattandrews2594 Год назад

Boris Todbringer will be a Lord for the Empire at some point.

@Hezort Год назад

WH1 races got DLCs in WH2, so most we can expect that again.

@FractalSpiral1 Год назад

I mean, yeah Skaven and Vampires are absolutely getting some kind of DLC. Neferata has been hinted at since WH2 and Thanquol is a fan favorite. Plus, Nagash is the last major Big Bad that isn't in the game now that we have the Chorfs. I'd love to see Malakai Makaison brought in as FLC or as part of a DLC, but the Dwarf Roster is basically what they had in eighth edition.

@millerrepin4452 Год назад

WH3 races need to have their rosters fleshed out first then the new race packs like Kuresh and ind. Finailly we'll have the lord packs for WH2 and 1 races.

@exobreaker6149 Год назад

for me one of the main reasons i dont like cathay is the lame generic lords

@forsenlevel2425 Год назад

Rakarth next maybe?

@mattandrews2594 Год назад

I hope Rakarth comes last, just for you.

@forsenlevel2425 Год назад

@@mattandrews2594 forsenLevel

@holdinmcgroin8639 Год назад

Certified forsenLevel campaign

@williamm.3612 Год назад

When I play Cathay, I roll Imrik the Dragon Boi.

@senshibat8920 Год назад

madi or canti pronuncements.. says same Tought Dragon Boi they is[change the name of settlement two to woohoo xen wu..hero to blur or gorillaz..;3]

@dad378 Год назад

@NapoleontheLesser Год назад

@Jakannsein Год назад

First

@bestintheworld4850 Год назад

Honestly, I feel like touching eastern factions, or badland ones is a no no, as CD will come in like a week and will change a lot of this.

@Ranulf13 Год назад

I found me boared with him very early. He has no items to claim no hard enemys to fight and the Faction over all is a bit boring too i think. And i am someone that likes very much Turtle factions. Also the focus on Meele units is a bit strange because they are not the units that win you fights anyways. So i did not liked him. Really like your Series and it often inspires me to play a new campain.