Current Zhongli < Current Raiden Prime Zhongli > Prime Raiden Zhongli said so himself that this age(Current) Raiden is stronger I can feel my strength is getting sloppy.
@@Longinusprime1320 not rlly, she is still in her prime as she hasnt gave up her archon status and still fights whenever. She does get stronger and zhongli reached his peek some time ago with before he started losing power. Its like a parabola and zhongli has alr reacher tha max value while ei is still on the left side of the ascending line.
@@Ei_Shogun okay because you clearly didn’t do the story quest, Yae Miko HERSELF at the end of Ei’s first story quest stated that she is getting weaker
Let us not forget that before the archon war....before Guizhong, Zhongli used to be a ruthless merciless dragon god. And while he may not be that person no more, that side of him still is within him. Somewhere deep down. And should that side of his be awakened, it would take more than just lightning to subdue it. Even in a weakened state caused by erosion, zhongli still possesses immeasurable strength. So yes, zhongli would definitely beat Raiden in a cooking showdown
GUYS REMEMBER THIS IS CURRENT! Zhonglis prime was during the archon war. He has weaken greatly due to erosion Ei is currently in her prime! Currently, ei is stronger then zhongli
Nope zhongli defensive so powerful and oldest archon for now so he has lot of experience than ei and power yes ei power is powerful than zhongli but they are close so in my oppinion zhongli wins
Well from the feats, Thunderbird who was almost as strong as azhdaha, and azhdaha was as strong as Zhongli and thunderbird got one shot by non prime Ei which kinda proofs Current Ei= Prime Zhongli
For anyone who's saying zhongli is getting weaker, You remember telling him he's getting weaker but you forgot when the liyue quest line was about to end he said it himself that if the people of liyue and adepti were to lose the battle against those ancient gods he would have defeated them on his own. Even azhdaha said the morax will continue to exist until the end of time meaning he isn't getting older or weaker he said that just because he doesn't want to fight or have any archon business anymore.
I was with u until the last part, its not that he's getting weaker its the erosion is affecting him like it did azdaha. Ppl dont understand shit about erosion and act like it means hes getting weaker when thats not it, it means he's not going to be himself just like how azdaha forgot his promise to zhongli because of erosion and started to reak havoc thats sorta what is expected to happen to zhongli and unlike azdaha who had zhongli to seal him back up we dont know if anyone will be able to do that to zhongli.
@@itz_andi9691 Azhdaha's erosion was caused by the disturbances in Ley-lines and because he was born from the earth itself, those ley-lines affected him even more and another reason for attacking humans is that they overexerted the resources of the chasm, the place azhdaha considered home. I still think that zhongli is beyond the concept of aging or erosion coz only the yakshas like xiao are shown to have been eroded and thats probably because of the kills they have and not their age because Ganyu has been around since the start of the archon war and she's completely unaffected by that concept of erosion.
@@anubhavpanwar472 the yakshas had karmic dept which ate at them and drove some mad and make them attack each other, the only reason xiao didnt turn out like them was because venti aided xiao
@@indyOfficials No she is not. Her powers are increasing day by day and by meditation in plane of euthymia she is even controlling them .An archon powers depend upon the control they can excercise upon their region and Ei is still revered as god in Inazuma that's why her powers are increasing and till her story quest she was not able to use musou no hitotachi at pull potential which can cut a star in two pieces at 100%(at raw) and it's powers can also increase depending upon the person using it
@@sauravsingh8241 that literally doesn't matter since prime basically means the strongest version and currently this is the strongest Raiden (and idk what your talking about cause I never saw anything about it being able to cut a star)
So many zhongli simps that don’t know what erosion is… 1) he is getting weaker because of erosion (stated in lore) 2) he doesn’t have a gnosis (don’t write me that gnosis doesn’t give any power, look at scara in god form) 3) He went into the shadows and lost a significant part of the forces that the archons receive directly from the love and faith of their people and their governance (stated in lore) 4) zhongli said HIMSELF that he is no longer able to defend liyue Ei NEVER USED GNOSIS AND SHE DOESNT A SUBJECT OF EROSION BECAUSE OF PUPPET In general, ei is represented in lore as a killing machine, an archon who studied martial arts and perfected combat skills all his life She has more feats, guys, understand that she can do manipulations with the time and dimensions In raiden story quest we can see that ei cut the space and time by her impact force and we can see this also in the game Also puppet said that ei’s elemental energy is enough to VAPORIZE THE OCEAN (guys just think about it) And that's before she wakes up… RAIDEN SHOGUN (PUPPET)> CURRENT ZHONGLI -we can make a little comparison. Zhongli can’t defeat azhdaha w/ erosion, so he invited traveller, and traveller wins After that traveller buffed his powers, when he came to inazuma, and he lost against the puppet and could be dead by shogun 2 times. Oh, I know what u want to write me, that in the end he won archon raider, but no… he won EI’S WILL (stated in lore) only with help of 99 visions and wishes So, puppet>buffed traveller>azhdaha>zhongli -Logically RAIDEN EI >> RAIDEN SHOGUN (PUPPET) - in story quest pt. 2 she fought the puppet 500 years and she said herself that she doesn’t have any right to make a mistake or relax, coz shogun could killed her And after quest we got AWAKENED EI (prime) AWAKENED EI >> RAIDEN EI>>RAIDEN SHOGUN AWAKENED EI >>>>current zhongli Take the reality and stop your fantasies… Based on lore Btw I don’t think it’s correct to compare prime zhongli w/ prime ei, coz we know almost nothing about his prime powers, so… And yeah, prime doesn’t mean that ei is getting weaker, she opened new Missou isshin and is getting stronger and every part of time when ei become stronger she gets new peak and new prime
Guys please remember that erosion doesnt make them weaker. Ei and zhongli are afraid of erosion because it can make them weaker (thats not what it does) it makes them mad. We were told this in the story/lore that erosion makes one lose themselves just like how it affected azdaha. He was still as strong as he once was but forgot all the promises he made to protect liyue due to erosion. Ei fears this for herself as she doesn't wish to hurt her nation. So for anyone saying zhongli is getting weaker due to erosion he isnt. And even if he claims be stepped down as the archon of liyue the whole of liyue still worships him, they just cant rely on him anymore and celestia still sees zhongli as their archon even if he stepped down.
Ei is in her prime now because of the musou no hitotachi, but I’m pretty sure she was physically stronger before the cataclysm, because she literally meditated for 500 years or so, she may have not gone through erosion but I feel like her mind has definitely gone through too much to have the same focus and capabilities as before. Idk it’s just my take on that.
Zhongli stopped fighting ever since he relinquished his title of the Warrior God Morax and became the God of Contracts Rex Lapis.But if he wanted to continue his conquest further i believe he would have conquered Sumeru and Mondstatd.
I really doubt that he would be able to conquer monsdtast giving that it have 2 Archons, dragon, albedo, a god knows what kind of abilities she might have Witch and Varka is probably some sort of human like adepti and Yae kind even the adepti wouldn't be much of a help unless zhongli decides to unleash azdaha 🗿🗿
@@RmiliK at the peak of Zhongli's reign he had Hundreds of Adepti in his army not to forget Azhdaha was a Dragonlord and Zhongli is part Dragon himself so the Vishaps probably fought for him as well. While Mondstadt was just a warzone.Decarabian was considerably weak compared to other gods and that is why had to barricade his city and i don't think Andrius alone could take on Two Gods and an army of illuminated beasts at once.Dvalin,Albedo and Venti/Barbatos didn't exist during this time period so they are out of the picture.
I feel like it’d be more situational- ei may very well lose since his shield is pretty much impenetrable, so she wouldn’t be able to lay a scratch on him meanwhile zhongli could still hurt her lore wise, zhongli is probably one of the strongest mostly due to being able to deflect his opponents attacks, and harming them while they can’t touch him
R u using the gameplay wise? If so, u can look at raidens final calamity. If u r using the lore, there's no statement that zhongli can deflect opponent attack. There's no statement about ei wouldn't be able to lay a scratch on zhongli. In zhongli quest story, when he was using his shield, bad azhdaha could slip through it and tried to attack zhongli, but good azhdaha blocked it and then the shield disappeared.
Strength goes to zhongli. He can easily lift the guyun stone forest if you compare the size of spears he threw to osial. He dragged azdaha out of the chasm with his own hands. Abilites also go to zhongli, Rain of Stone: Zhongli's standard form of attack with a spear, which includes a charging attack in which he transforms into a set of Geo spears that rain down along his path. Dominus Lapidis: Tapping into the Geo energy that exists in all the earth, Zhongli manifests a Stone Stele that resonates with all Geo constructs in the vicinity in the form of echoing waves of energy. Zhongli can also release a wave of Geo energy from himself that causes all nearby Geo energy to explode, creating a Jade Shield and absorbing energy from his opponents. Planet Befall: Zhongli manifests a giant meteor from the sky, parting the clouds and dealing immense damage. Surviving enemies are turned into stone. Resonant Waves: When the Jade Shield takes damage, it will fortify, becoming even more durable than before. He also can create Islands with his spear. Can cause earthquakes, can create huge spears.
He can lift those spears, cuz it's his ability, he's geo lord, why can't he lift/control geo thing. Do you expect Ei lift a mountain or what? I don't think there's no statement about zhongli dragged azhdaha with HIS HAND. Also, why u bring characters skills description? Didn't you read Raidens skills?
Before you come to conclusions, If they ever fought 1v1, even in the present, It would result in a few cursed Yashiori Island or maybe a few Chasms. They're on a whole another level of power. Remember when La Signora threatened Raiden Shogun about the Fatui. The fatui hasn't made a move, they never will. Zhongli was forced to give gnosis because they threw the spear right where the weak spot was. Zhongli was concerned about Liyue already.
It’s not cap bc it says CURRENTLY not prime. Zhongli lost most of his power due to erosion. but raiden shogun didn’t lose her power because she meditates in her plane of euthymiya.
Strength Raiden ei ????? 🤨🤨 In physical strength, Raiden Ei is surpassed even by most humans, Zhongli in the lore, in addition to being infinitely stronger, has a much greater destructive power
Ok let's just say they balance, Even like that Zhongli not the most weaker Archon :v and Ei will be like him who will be know everything if she not dead, if the win Raiden or Zhongli in my eyes they where same just differently is Zhongli is the defense then Raiden like a fighter And PLSS HOW TKO GET BAAL & MORAX?
Well... Actually, Prime Morax > Prime Ei Current Zhongli > Current Ei And no one said Zhongli is the weakest Archon, in fact, he's one of the strongest. And Ei's not dead? It was Makoto. I'm assuming you were mentioning about Intelligence/experience, I'm pretty sure it goes to Zhongli. About getting Ei and Zhongli, idk if you're telling it as playable character. But if yes, you can Wish for them. Raiden's banner is here. And as for Zhongli, I'm not sure when will his rerun come.
I can’t read your English so here Zhongli was greatly weakened by erosion due to his old age, just like an old man. But Raiden Ei is not as old as Zhongli is. I’m not sure if Zhongli will ever get his prime power back but his current state is weaker than Raiden Ei. Ei is already in her prime so Ei beats an old man. If you’re talking about the Archon War, then yes Morax is stronger than Ei by a ton.
Yeah sorry I'm still learning cause I'm not like you guys, I'm from Indonesian and yep still learning how to speak English so apologize if my english is so bad I knew it TvT but i understand what you guys says in English just still learning to speak English ehe (Venti mode on)
The thin is during the archon war, it was not ei's prime yet. But during her story quest, she is finally usin her sister's weapon and trained nonstop against raiden shogun for 500 years straight. if the prime morax vs the current ei? Idk who will win but it will sure be a bloodbath
I regret even searching this up out of curiosity. The battle in the comment section is more intense than in the comparison itself. Although idk much abt lore of genshin, is safe to assume Prime Zhongli = Prime Ei(for now) as we dont hv that much info abt how strong Ei is rn and how strong Zhonli was before he met Guizhong(the exact details) And pls dont show hate in the comments im trying to be neutral here
Because of ei’s idea of eternity then yes ei would beat Zhongli but if it is both in their prime there is no doubt that Zhongli wouldn’t break a sweat against her
Raiden is still slight greater than zhongli even in prime war too Coz Zhongli do have some contracts not to be displayed when traveller asked about khanriah, this means the celestia let him being the only archon live. While others die. It's like he just have blessings of the primodial 2nd. Another thing is talking about prime raiden don't exist at that time , both sisters came after the cataclysm..so we can't compare
Bro I am telling you pls don't compare gods even raiden ei is a god of eternity and we all know what eternity means she can't be killed from any god which exists in genshin impact
what's the difference????? between old and prime from them if they don't grow into grandma/granda body state??? nothing is ever changing from these archons the only difference is that Morax gave up his Archon title and live a broke life. but i respect every opinion✨
Erosion takes Ur brain away and makes Ur body gets rotten if that doesn't make u weaker I don't know what would, it was all explained in Azdaha quest... The big vishap we fight now is nothing compared to the real azdaha before erosion his body got eroded and his mind as well foif we could see azdaha body prior to erosion it would be much different... For Archons In the other hand only Ei and Nahida as for now uses their main appearances and Ei is using a Robot body while nahida is still a child as for zhongli and venti that's not how they look it's just a vessel I think, Venti body is some sort of a wind like creature and Zhongli is a huge dragon
Zhongli warrior god title is given by opera and children in liyue, it's on-stage aspect. (Stated in zhongli char story 3) Read raiden char story, her technique is stated to be unparalleled.
no matter what the video says about current and prime those simps will always arguing about it.. like bro the video says current then why bringing prime and such for another comparing? yes ei current is in her prime BUT NOT WITH ZHONGLI sincr he retire than why bringing his past for comparing? cant yall give some respect to other archons power and accept the truth?
Am on my prime but to be honest he is not strong enough rn because he said he feels like his strength is getting low so am stronger but his prime(Archon war) was very powerful from of him
Zhongli prime is when he had gnosis Stated in zhongli char story about gnosis, Gnosis = divine ability to defend liyue Also, read zhongli voice over ascension conclusion
zhongli has lost most of his power, raiden ei didn’t lose any power from when she was created, if anything she gained power.. raiden is fighting zhongli, not morax
@@Raye000 first of all they’re the same person, but beside that your right. If this was prime Zhongli vs prime raiden Zhongli would slap, but it’s current and currently raidens in her prime so she would probably win
@@darthrevan3794 People refer to them as different people since Zhongli was called Morax when he was still a ruling archon and now that he stopped he calls himself Zhongli
Prime Zhongli would beat prime Ei but Ei wouldn't go down without a fight, she would be without a doubt greatly injure Zhongli, but anyway people still comparing Raiden to the other Archons proves that she's the strongest Archon (currently until other archons/gods have been introduced) Watch the Zhongli stans bring up his feats in the comments acting like it matters...
