Zhuangzi - The Sage of Uncertainty 

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By that logic no American can ever be happy.

I believe that but I despair of ever learning how.

I'm quite happy not to be happy all the time.

@@charlesdavis7087 Wish I could say same.

That's such a great quote, thanks.

Jesus could have said the same thing lol Well he did when he sent his disciples.

@@EricDMMiller ??? ?????????????????

@@EricDMMiller define "actual" physical comfort. Comfort is actual enough if it is comfort.

"attained through immoral means" confucius really can't just let things stand without adding a moral to them huh

Or perhaps, now is simply the time for us to find this channel, when we are ready, when it is ready. Right on time.

no your mind isn't.

I’m very impressed that you read, and enjoyed!, this as a teen. Very impressive.

@@lennon_richardson : Thank you. I'll be three score and ten later this year.

people love different things, that's how.

Did you read it in original language ?

@@МарияЛесниченко-б4я No, I read Burton Watson's translation.

Radddd

He is my cat. And he knows that I know that he knows…ya know?

Incredible! I hope that Heaven and Earth assist you in making him proud.

I heard he was a myth. your dad, that is.

@@aubreylear .............

Did you watch Ibn Arabi & The Unity of Being on this channel?

I think the closeness with nature and time to meditate before we all became loud and industrialized, helped a lot. People can't meditate today like they did back then. Too much noise and busywork.

Very similar expirence for me, from philosophy to music, it all sounds familiar.

Eastern civilizations tried to go beyond material success and found eternal spiritual happiness and there is also comfort and peace with spiritual success.

someone you know, or someone that is you, déjà vu?

@@SomeRandomGuy777x lol, someone familiar that’s for sure

Same here. While I am reading or listening to this kind of texts I feel like something Inside me is responding.

Ditto.

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Such is the happiness of a fly

Zhuang Zi got no time for words or concepts.

What a real Buzz!

Perhaps they would all smile at each other, and remain silent, nothing needing to be said.

@@alecbruyns4490 haha, that’s Huineng’s way who practiced Buddhism

The Chinese Communist Party cracks down on Chinese people's freedom of belief, distorting and cracking down on Buddhism and Taoism. In China, the prerequisite for you to be a religious person or a believer is to praise the Communist Party. Chinese traditional culture is in danger now, I am very sad for this

Even a century-old church in Tianjin, one of China's cities, has been converted into a coffee shop, I feel so distressed

@@呱呱哞儿 why are you saying century old like that's particularly old

Agreed

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“If I were not Alexander, I would be Diogenes”

was just looking to see if anyone had brought up Diogenes yet.lol

@@nklinef Chad move

Ah sheizzz... Somebody already mention Diogenes before me...

Diogenes is ascetic, whereas Zhuangzi had a home supposedly. Zhuangzi would likely not have many material possessions, for his philosophy undermines the concept of property, but Zhuangzi didn't draw such hard lines that if you were practicing you wouldn't have many possessions.

Even Chinese needs footnotes to understand what the heck he's saying

@@limitlesssky3050 That is somewhat comforting. i thought I was just stupid.

I have Mair and treasure Cleary's trans. of the Inner Chapters. Thanks for the recommendation of Ziporyn! I love to spread them all out before me and read the same section from each (helps my aging memory, as well).

It was not directly stated whether the dream is remembered or not, only the narrator said that the narrator is not sure whether Zhuang Zhi is dreaming of being butterfly or the butterfly dreaming of becoming Zhuang Zhi, but since the narrator is Zhuang Zhi himself, logic says he kinda needs to remember it to write it down, no?

Hans has a youtube channel: and yes, he is a eastern philosophy scholar living in the East, so it adds to the depth of his interpretations

Indeed...Truly Wu Wei 🙃

Heraclitus' - according to Fritjof Capra the Greek Daoïst - fragment 102: "To God all things are fair and good and just, but men hold some things wrong and some right."

@@henripepels815 Nice--See Isopanisad invocation ''purnamadah...'' and verse one' ''isavasya idam sarvam''

Some times the information age is working

If you would like to know more about Zhuangzi, please check my videos on his thoughts and how reading Zhuangzi helped me to get out of depression, reduce anxiety, etc. ru-vid.com/group/PL8piymOUzJSDIb3TaBFusPPBhVbagWfiU

I jump for joy whenever anyone says Alan Watts. And, just imagine, there was hardly anything translated to English from Chinese, Japanese, Sanskrit, etc. when he got into all that. He was a true scholar and great thinker. Underappreciated because he refused to play the academic game and frankly I think the public-figure religious and spiritual "knowns" of today dare not mention him as he make everyone look so wan and bland by comparison. Peace to you in Brazil, from the US>

Yes, very interesting book!

Thanks for the book recommendation!

I would say the Leihzi is the closest book in daoism I have read. Made up of parables,anecdotes, dialogues and musing. Understanding reality is from the period it is well on the path to religion from ancient philosophy

@@andrewgeary9749 I haven't read Liezi. Will give it a look. When I read Understanding Reality I found it a profound alchemical text at the time, thus the mention

@@locuus7 it's all important for understanding the current state of Daoism and how it went from antiquity into the modern era, and familiarity with Understanding Reality is definitely important. Even though it's not a majority religion in modern China like the folk religion, the symbology and worldview share a lot of terminology and references and it's a great aid in learning the culture.

From India: First deserve; then desire. One is allowed to want God and also, the Guru - to guide one - to mergence. Only these wishes, allowed. One waits - the devotee is trained, thus - in the beginning - in etiquette And then - the guide comes - to us. This inner journey - takes on a new beauty and effort. May it be so. Good luck.

Daoism as anti-intellectualism is one of the most common completely incorrect interpretations.

@@gongfutaijimy Well its both at the same time. Is that not the point of his contradictions?

Zhuang Zhi is anti intellectual, yet he is a great intellectual himself. Zhuang Zhi is anti language, yet he is a great scholar himself, Zhuang Zhi is anti teacher, yet he has a great many disciples. Zhuang Zhi is anti certainty, yet he is certain of his own Tao. That is Zhuang Zhi. You may call it hypocritical, but he is what he is.

@@limitlesssky3050 I AM that I am 🙃🙋

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You are right. The way Zhuangzi's way of regarding life and death, about happiness, are so enlightening!!

He really does sound like Skall

Hadn't noticed but now I can't unhear

can confirm. in fact, english version was a far easier reading experience for me :D.

I think the version he recommends has extensive, maybe exhaustive footnotes addressing some of this. And, frankly, when the stories are coming across this well, not sure so much has been lost . . .

She certainly multiplied them .

Not really. It's not theistic at all.

"Advaita" means "nondual" -- no two. It is NOT monotheistic; it is wrong even to call it monistic. The Advaita school says, in sum, that all the twos we observe in life -- good and bad, right and wrong -- are at a lower level of reality. The truth supreme is that there is NO TWO. Na nirodho, na cha-utpattir, Na baddho, na cha saadhakah. Na mumukshur, na vai muktah, Ity-eshaa paramaarthataa.

Two Ones Anyways, that ain't it man

Stupid... Zhaungzhi is far better with rhetorics

@@1ACL It is neither theistic nor atheistic. Nor is it not theistic nor not atheistic

Absolutely, God takes many forms to show his love for us. Zhuangzi might be one of his voices!

I did a documentary on the Alevis back in April, but took it down due to the environment in the comment section. Will do another one later on! And Gnawa music is something I would love to cover soon :) It will probably show up in my larger video on Sufi music. Thank you for the well-wishes, all the best to your family as well!

@@LetsTalkReligion yeah. It's a shame but it seems that some wahabis and salafis and other radicals of that nature have found your videos. You do no harm at all and in truth i wish there were more neutral academics like you active. With that being said the great majority of your viewers just prefer to learn and not judge, not like some of these hypocrites. In general, you're helping to break stereotypes about Islam both those of those ignorant westerners and of hard-line extremists that follow ideologies like wahabism salafism and Khomeinism. Thanks.

@patjoni what do you mean?

@patjoni i see. I still consider it to be Islamic but it clearly has other influences, just like many other movements within Islam. To me really as long as you believe that muhammad rassullah alih Salam was the last prophet of al haqq you're a Muslim. I think they basically view the most important thing as just praising God, and the one ness of al haqq, though of course it's more complex. Though i personally wouldn't drink myself, i can respect that they aren't judgemental of those who do, because even if you don't like something you shouldn't judge those who do, they're very respectful which is good and they're not puritanical at all. At the end of the day, though I'd never become bektashi i respect them both in terms of Islam and as people, even if you don't believe in al haqq or not, we all come from his light like ibn arabi said. Peace be upon you for your commentary. I think the personal stuff is personal for s reason you know i don't drink i don't smoke but hey I'm not al haqq in all his glory I'm not going to make anyone not do it even though I'd never do it, al haqq gave us free will I'm not going to tell anyone what to do. The most important thing is respect and love for those around you be them whoever they are

@patjoni very true may peace be upon u and your loved ones have a good new year bro

@@peterkhew7414 Good luck with that. Without struggle all you will gain is an egotistical false sense of superiority. What zhuangzi doesn't mention in that example is all the training and struggle and trial and error he went through to become a master butcher in the first place. If he started out by trying to "go with the flow" and "cut with the grain," he never would have actually learned how to truly go with the flow. ...Actually now that I've looked up the story, I was wrong, he does allude to the process involved in attaining that kind of mastery (maybe not exactly what you're referring to, but it's a good illustration none the less): "When I first began cutting up oxen, all I could see was the ox itself. After three years I no longer saw the whole ox. And now - now I go at it by spirit and don’t look with my eyes."... He's talking about many years of training that went into his ability. Years. Not just going with the flow right from the beginning. “A good cook changes his knife once a year - because he cuts. A mediocre cook changes his knife once a month - because he hacks." Stages leading up to mastery. The point is not to skip these stages, because again all it will gain you is an egotistical false sense of superiority, in exactly the same way as a butcher with no experience can claim that they "go with the flow" and are therefore superior to the master butcher, but in reality they have no experience or wisdom whatsoever.

@@peterkhew7414 Speak for yourself, you have no idea what I do or do not understand. I'm just pointing out something that you are obviously missing

@@peterkhew7414 I would suggest this: go up to the most beautiful girl you can find walking on the street, and try to stop her and say hello and give her a compliment. And watch what happens to your so-called flow

@Peter Khew I doubt you'll see this now that you deleted your comments, but a word of advice if you do: follow the "ox herding pictures." Technically it comes from zen buddhism, but in reality there are no clear "territorial boundaries" separating one religion from another in china, so it all comes from the same pool of chinese wisdom. Again: Ox herding pictures. Everything is there, ie the way to real understanding. Everything else is just imagination and intellectual titillation