Zildjian ALCHEM-E Kit: Next-gen eDrums, Immersion & 400 Years of Sound 

Um, all of them. However, Zildjian has priced themselves out of reach of working drummers.

We only need clever AI software to augment low volume inputs. You'll use standard drum mics (close positioning) and the input will be analysed real time and transformed to a quality drum sound. The inputs will train the software for better accuracy over time whilst playing. This will end the acoustic/electronic debate forever. You won't actually be playing electronic drums. Any sound (be it low volume or not) are transformed into something else. Any sound your mic pics up could be trained and transformed. With AI, I think it's a matter of time. The person building this will be insta rich.

That's what they said when Pinarello made an Ebike...

​@@Ludo_A Jesus is coming soon

Zildijan is a business, the aim of a business in a proper capitalist system is to make money, and if they feel that the money is in electronic acoustic sounding drums, that’s what they will put out. (Note: I don’t subscribe to Libertarian and AnCap philosophies, but that is a different matter and story)

@@SuperheroJunior That will be SuperheroSenior then.

E drums are cool and a completely separate instrument than acoustic drums, in my opinion

I noticed that too, and even the bell sound played as the regular ride sound. I'm certain Russ picked up on it too

This is the second video I’ve seen that has had that issue, really hope it’s just a simple mishap with the set up because it would be extremely concerning if a $7000 kit didn’t have a functional ride cymbal

​@jadonchacon ..from Zildjian, no less!

Think about if Zildjian was going to put out an edrum product and the cymbals didnt sound amazing though... That's kind of the point...

@@anotheryoutubed absolutely right, would be ridiculous but we've seen similar things happen before. Mesa Boogie cab clone was not the greatest, Marshall has put out some terrible sounding amps, etc.

yeah but it depends on how these cymbals will work with a third party module like Rolland TD 27... If you know what I mean... They may be designed the way only their signature module can understand :D That's what I'm afraid of... otherwise, once they're on market, I'd be buying them!

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bro no. You can put real heads on the kit and play it live. That’s what I meant

Really!

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@@_DEADED Yeah, it seems really nice, but in a market with so much competition, it certainly not money well spent. Get it under $5000 than maybe... but I'm sure it would have cost that 3 years ago ;)

😂 too much $ looks nice price crazy I'm sure the bronze kit cost less, easy pass for me not

They should have just sampled their cymbals and made sold that to people.

Cymbals having the feel of real, vs. heavy rubber pads would be a big plus! I Play F-Note 5 e-kit now, good drums, heavy rubber cymbals. - 60 yrs playing; still play multiple bands, 20 hrs/wk, excluding own practice.

Old-school jazz players

@@JustanEdrummer Been playing drums (and jazz) 30+ years and never heard anyone call it that!

@@JustanEdrummer no, no one calls it that.

@@anotheryoutubed ok you win

Nick D is in South America touring with Mr. Big!

Thank you for the heads up! We know he is having a ball, going to search for some videos on here to watch the Maestro in action!

He just posted an explanation video of this stating that a review will follow!

You'd need the brain too. It applies the samples to the triggers in a "proprietary" manner....

Especially since it’s pretty common to not expect your traditional kit to include cymbals, it’s not such a stretch to do the same with an e-kit.

Actually they made 2 versions of Gen16. Dwe/E vault is a wet dream for a lot of people, I think…

Pretty depressing to note that not many have (his sales pitch worked like a charm). But it's not the lag, it's the articulations and single hits that you can't even hear or distinguish many times, as it's simply not picking them up, and that seems to be the biggest issue. Just listen to the intro on the hi-hat, literally half of the notes are not there. And he knows this very well so he played as few as possible later on, just brushing over them with the sticks mostly, to get them to produce some general sound.

They never mention the price in these reviews. That’s not super out of line.

disagree. the decent cymbal samples are an absolute gamechanger

Why do you think that?

People said that about the DW ekits and they're selling out all over the place

@@mathy0u its 7,000 dollars

You’d be surprised how many well off dads out there having a mid life crisis and looking for a hobby will buy these.

Hey, SpaceTiger90. Thanks for your interest. And yes. You can add cymbals and toms. It allows for 4 toms total. For cymbals you get Hi Hat, Ride, and 4 cymbal (Crash/China/Effects) inputs. I hope this helps. Jason Thiele, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1391, jason_thiele@sweetwater.com

Good question. Curious about this too. My guess is there won't be an adapter though

They should market the cymbals as an e kit add on. Especially the hi hats.

@@allenmitchell09 I agree completely

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If you are in Toronto, can you recommend an Honest salesperson to buy drums for my granddaughter. I have bought a few things from Soul drums. I will spend about 5k for a kit. I know zero about drums. I was a half axed guitarist. Thanks if you can help. PS Larnell was a student of mine when I was a computer teacher. We jammed occasionally after school. He often played piano too!!!! His band teacher told me back then Larnell is The One😊

I put the meinl cymbal mutes on mine and just jacked up the threshold and sensitivity and they’re quieter and it feels better, once you play for awhile you get past the feel but they sound amazing once you mix them, Zildjian’s are better bc..,they’re Zildjian but the module is really mediocre here

@@martydibergi5228 If you are looking to spend 5K on a kit for your granddaughter, I can give you some things to think about before you talk to a sales engineer. PS, I'm from the US, so there may be pricing issues that I am not aware of in Canada. 1) Where the kit will be: I assume you've already done this, but if you haven't, consider the space for the kit. You need to consider living space, neighbors, other occupants, pets, etc. Also, make sure your granddaughter knows the importance of hearing protection (a good friend of mine already has tinnitus). 2) Acoustic or electronic. Having played both, I find that acoustic drums offer a more authentic feel, which is crucial if your granddaughter is considering a drumming career. However, I understand that certain spaces may not be suitable for acoustic drums due to their loudness. There are ways to reduce the sound (slap-on mutes, low-volume cymbals, etc.), but it's important that the kit owner occasionally practices with actual acoustic heads and cymbals to maintain the 'real feel '. 3) Buy a decent-quality drum rug. Many drum equipment uses spikes or spurs to anchor the hardware to the floor. We don't want to damage your granddaughter's home now, and that is how to keep the bass drum from sliding. 4) Budget: If you plan to buy electronic equipment, the 65drums RU-vid channel is a great place to start your research. If you have $5K to spend on an acoustic set, and you know for a fact that your granddaughter is passionate about playing the drums, set about 1,000 aside for shells from Tama, Mapex, Pearl, etc. Other costs would include decent hardware: cymbal stands, snare stands, drum thrones (round and flat is the way to go btw,), hi-hat stands, etc. I did not include DW in my list of recommended brands because while DW's premium stuff is definitely reliable, you'll be spending more money than if you were buying the same quality from other brands. And that takes us to the drum pedal. Go with Tama, Gibraltar, Mapex, etc.. Their stuff is priced well. 5) Cymbals (if you're buying acoustic): From my experience, great-quality cymbals usually cost at least $300 each. The ride cymbal and hi-hats will be the most expensive cymbals. If you are willing to get high-end cymbals for your granddaughter, maybe look at cymbal packs for $1,000+ with four cymbals (they might cost even more). If you see a cymbal pack that offers 12 cymbals for only $1,000, I would be skeptical of the cymbal quality. The bulk of the budget for my kit went into purchasing cymbals. All the established cymbal makers make great cymbals. I know there is a lot to unpack here, and I have a feeling I forgot some things. It is a great thing you are thinking about for your granddaughter! Hopefully, this helps. Good luck!

I can’t stand the DWe. EFNOTE pro all the way. Just feels phenomenal. Played the Zildjian kit today and like it. Definitely a freshman kit but a great freshman kit.

@@martydibergi5228 If you are looking to spend 5K on a kit for your granddaughter, I can give you some things to think about before you talk to a sales engineer. PS, I'm from the US, so there may be pricing issues that I am not aware of in Canada. 1) Where the kit will be: I assume you've already done this, but if you haven't, consider the space for the kit. You need to consider living space, neighbors, other occupants, pets, etc. Also, make sure your granddaughter knows the importance of hearing protection (a good friend of mine already has tinnitus). 2) Acoustic or electronic. Having played both, I find that acoustic drums offer a more authentic feel, which is crucial if your granddaughter is considering a drumming career. However, I understand that certain spaces may not be suitable for acoustic drums due to their loudness. There are ways to reduce the sound (slap-on mutes, low-volume cymbals, etc.), but it's important that the kit owner occasionally practices with actual acoustic heads and cymbals to maintain the 'real feel '. 3) Buy a decent-quality drum rug. Many drum equipment uses spikes or spurs to anchor the hardware to the floor. We don't want to damage your granddaughter's home now, and that is how to keep the bass drum from sliding. 4) Budget: If you plan to buy electronic equipment, the 65drums RU-vid channel is a great place to start your research. If you have $5K to spend on an acoustic set, and you know for a fact that your granddaughter is passionate about playing the drums, set about 1,000 aside for shells from Tama, Mapex, Pearl, etc. Other costs would include decent hardware: cymbal stands, snare stands, drum thrones (round and flat is the way to go btw,), hi-hat stands, etc. I did not include DW in my list of recommended brands because while DW's premium stuff is definitely reliable, you'll be spending more money than if you were buying the same quality from other brands. And that takes us to the drum pedal. Go with Tama, Gibraltar, Mapex, etc.. Their stuff is priced well. 5) Cymbals (if you're buying acoustic): From my experience, great-quality cymbals usually cost at least $300 each. The ride cymbal and hi-hats will be the most expensive cymbals. If you are willing to get high-end cymbals for your granddaughter, maybe look at cymbal packs for $1,000+ with four cymbals (they might cost even more). If you see a cymbal pack that offers 12 cymbals for only $1,000, I would be skeptical of the cymbal quality. The bulk of the budget for my kit went into purchasing cymbals. All the established cymbal makers make great cymbals. I know there is a lot to unpack here, and I have a feeling I forgot some things. It is a great thing you are thinking about for your granddaughter! Hopefully, this helps. Good luck!

Hey, bacbladerunner. Thanks for your interest. The internal memory is limited to 32gb. I hope this helps. Jason Thiele, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1391, jason_thiele@sweetwater.com