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Zone 2 Training: I Feel Like I Am Starting Over 

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I ran my first run completely in zone 2 heart rate range, and it felt as if I was completely starting over with my training because my pace was so slow. But there is some encouragement to be had!
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@contador8197
@contador8197 4 года назад
You just said what I was heading towards. I started doing one tempo/threshold run per week. I just did a zone 2 run a couple days ago and holy cow that was a lesson. But I found the much slower run very encouraging, staying in good running form just holding back is way different then pounding your legs every time and just wanting to get home. Thanks for the video very encouraging!
@AverageRunningPT
@AverageRunningPT 4 года назад
Glad it resonated with you!
@eoincasey5461
@eoincasey5461 4 года назад
My Zone 2 zone is 10 beats higher than my MAF zone. So naturally I go with my zone 2 for the extra beats I'm allowed!!
@eckrun6449
@eckrun6449 Год назад
Thank you very much or the tips. Zone 2 training is freaking hard.
@catedoge3206
@catedoge3206 Год назад
I just ran my first zone 2 heart range for about 45 minutes!! 5 minutes start and end with zone 1.
@MrXrisd01
@MrXrisd01 3 года назад
Dude my maf Mile was 14 mins 3 months ago! Thinking I'm screwed for marathon, it's now 10 something. Saw your zone 2 video, only run at night cuz it's so embarrassing
@AverageRunningPT
@AverageRunningPT 3 года назад
hahaha!
@dantrihard3899
@dantrihard3899 3 года назад
Hahaha, this is amazing! Keep it up
@mooseknuckle_4474
@mooseknuckle_4474 2 года назад
Yeah this is something that bothers me. I’ve been relatively sedentary for 10+ yrs. Between job and life choices. I’m 39, 6’1”, 232 lbs and on a flat track at my local college my mile is 15 min to keep my heart rate under 141 bpm avg. I can WALK fast enough on that track to push past my 141 bpm target. To stay under 121 l’d pretty much have to stop every 60-70 seconds. Been walking/jogging for almost 3 months now. No improvement. Matter of fact l seem to be getting slower.
@glassmw9823
@glassmw9823 Год назад
I think we've all been here. I have. Keep it up, pepper in 1 workout a week or every other week (no more than 20% of your weekly training by volume of time; i.e. if you exercise for 10 hours a week, no more than 2 of those hours should be at a "hard" level) that pumps up the intensity a little bit for a low-mileage/distance run. Also check your diet, recovery, sleep, and rest as well. You can do it!
@lukamalic486
@lukamalic486 3 года назад
Try using the Karvonen heart rate calculator , use both max and resting heart rate to find your zones .
@AverageRunningPT
@AverageRunningPT 3 года назад
👍🏼👍🏼
@happyyorkshireman9250
@happyyorkshireman9250 4 года назад
Hi, very interesting content. Good luck looking forward to more updates.
@AverageRunningPT
@AverageRunningPT 4 года назад
Thank you!
@jdoexrayvision
@jdoexrayvision 3 года назад
I feel like we're carbon copies. I've had the exact same experience down to the split times. The ability to run continuously in zone two or even three sometimes was elusive for many months. MAF training got me to where running in zone two was even possible at all. Thanks to covid, my marathon got delayed three months and so I'm starting a new base phase incorporating zone 2 almost exclusively for at least the next month. Good luck to you, I hope we see gains from the zone 2 training.
@AverageRunningPT
@AverageRunningPT 3 года назад
Yes sir! good luck going forward!
@braddenty503
@braddenty503 3 года назад
Thru my reading it was recommended to stick to zone 2 until ur times plateau the kinda sprinkle in some anaerobic workouts. My plan is roll with it for 80 days the I'll hit 1 full on drag race workout for the bike and 1 for running per week. Hopefully I can roll zone 2 most or all of the bike in the race then pull the pin on the run. Im so ate up with this stuff right now my wife doesn't want to talk to me. Haha
@AverageRunningPT
@AverageRunningPT 3 года назад
hahaha!
@motogp9253
@motogp9253 Год назад
What up Brad? Did this work? Do you recommend it for other athletes? Thanks
@jbee1263
@jbee1263 4 года назад
My maf is 125 - 135 and ... the idea of running. Yea, no. :( I walk and not only am at 13 ish minutes per mile. But there are times when my hr even exceeds maf - while walking. But yet, I can run a half marathon (exhausted but I have). I don’t get it. I guess my aerobic engine is beyond terrible.
@AverageRunningPT
@AverageRunningPT 4 года назад
Some people just have a HR that runs higher. As I have said, MAF may not be for everyone.
@bhavinipatel1775
@bhavinipatel1775 3 года назад
Same! Walking up a hill and I am in zone 2! I have to "Jeff" to get a 50% time in zone 2 which is the best I have so far!
@travisniles6800
@travisniles6800 2 года назад
Should you train with long runs in Zone 2 even if you're to get faster in the mile or 5k?
@andrewdevine4350
@andrewdevine4350 3 года назад
If you are using garmin then your zone 2 is actually zone 3 on garmin...
@AverageRunningPT
@AverageRunningPT 3 года назад
I don't use the Garmin numbers
@alane3983
@alane3983 Год назад
You can customize your zones on the Garmin. At least on mine I can.
@damequish
@damequish 11 месяцев назад
Second day 2 hours almost 8 miles stopped walked ran as slow as possible my heart races through the zone from one to other extreme so hard! But EZ😎
@TK-nc3ou
@TK-nc3ou 3 года назад
I have always run around 105, 115 bpm is tops for me. And I progressed from 630 to 5:15/km on 10 km distance without ONCE sprinting or running any hard runs in a year. My record is 4:54/km and it was also the same bpm.
@TK-nc3ou
@TK-nc3ou 3 года назад
This method is just easy, very safe, results are super sustainabe. But it demands patience.
@AverageRunningPT
@AverageRunningPT 3 года назад
Patience and consistency.
@timshanks6729
@timshanks6729 3 года назад
I’ve discovered that if you take your maximum speed on a treadmill for a half mile to a kilometer about .62 miles as your max speed then run 60 to 70 percent for cardio and run 80 to 90 percent for speed work it’s the same as hart rate zones.
@AverageRunningPT
@AverageRunningPT 3 года назад
Definitely haven't tried that.
@theasthmatictraveller5050
@theasthmatictraveller5050 2 года назад
Orrr you can just calculate your max heart rate and find your zones 😂
@dannyiskandar
@dannyiskandar 2 года назад
why is it humility? do people feel embarassed running to slow, more like fast walking? 😀
@Stroon92
@Stroon92 4 года назад
How long (time) should a beginner runner do maff training per run? Say 1 run every 2 days? And thanks for letting us know that there is more to do after maff training becomes too "fast".
@AverageRunningPT
@AverageRunningPT 4 года назад
This depends on how much running you are currently doing, and what your goals are. I try to stay in my MAF zone for each run with the exception of the 2 days out of the week that I have a different objective in mind. So if I run 6 days per week: Monday Anaerobic Tuesday MAF Wednesday MAF Thursday Zone 2 Friday MAF Saturday MAF
@alangray8952
@alangray8952 4 года назад
How do you calculate your HR zones? My MAF is 142 and on my Coros thats zone 2 🤷‍♂️
@AverageRunningPT
@AverageRunningPT 4 года назад
Just made an update video. Be sure to check it out! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QdEzI3UxkjE.html
@dekik.979
@dekik.979 3 года назад
Best is to mesure max HR and resting HR and use Karvonen formula
@jdoexrayvision
@jdoexrayvision 3 года назад
You can adjust your heartrate zones on the watch manually. You do need to figure out your max heart rate somehow first. As a reliable method, I would suggest getting access to a building with at least 15 stories, up to 20 will do. Walk up the entire 15-20 flights then walk down them. Next, run, run up all 15-20 flights, wearing a hr monitor obviously, and when you get to the top, that is your max heartrate. I've tested this multiple times on different days and it's very consistent. You'll probably hit and stay at max after the 12th floor.
@briang1561
@briang1561 3 года назад
I cant even run in zone 2.
@AverageRunningPT
@AverageRunningPT 3 года назад
It is hard...
@RBrown803
@RBrown803 3 года назад
Don't feel bad, I am in the same boat. I spend a hell of a lot more time walking that running. However, I just looked at the last 3 days and I've made some steady improvements. You gotta go slow to get fast(er).
@simon6652
@simon6652 2 года назад
You couldn’t have explained zone 2 training anymore complicated I’m afraid.
@giovanbattistafichera8439
@giovanbattistafichera8439 4 года назад
Both MAF and 220-age are totally arbitrary. The fact that dr. Maffetone had 200 athletes (or 20.000 for that matter) doesn't make him the guru of HR training. Both of them can give you an approximation of the intensity you need to train at but unless you get that tested in a lab, you'll always be playing around. That said, I'd recommend you: 1. watch Stephen Seiler's video here to get a more comprehensive look at HR/exertion and ventilatory thresholds ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NPwyk9B0j-s.html 2. calculate your threshold HR doing this test here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Z2EZNU_HIR4.html If you want to do it right, it should be 100% tailored to you, that's all.
@AverageRunningPT
@AverageRunningPT 4 года назад
I have said before that these are completely arbitrary numbers, but it gives me something to shoot for. If I were an elite runner, I would be much more scientific, but for now it is helping me to slow down and stay healthy.
@JohnHarryShaun
@JohnHarryShaun 4 года назад
Giovanbattista, looking at that GTN video, you may be confusing lactate threshold, and functional threshold power with MAF(MAX Aerobic function). The MAF method gives you the max, then you stay within 10bpm below that. Also a key point about MAF is the link between intensity and running Form. After all with distance(and training) running form, will influence stress, injury and overall performance. If using standard training zones, but not increasing efficiency in those zones, we don’t improve. For example after starting MAF 12 months ago, I now run the same runs same pace, but at around 12-16bpm less. 21-26km that is extremely impressive. If this improvement comes from running a lot more but easier on the body I’m carrying on. At 37, I’ve broke my 10km time when 18years old, I’ve broke my 5km, 21km and 42km from 5 years ago. If MAF is followed fully and correctly it really works.
@braddenty503
@braddenty503 3 года назад
Today was my first zone 2 run. (108-128 bpm) 1 hour total Ave HR was 120 max was 132 oops. Only outside zone 2 for 6 min tho. Ave pace 12:57/mi. I have 105 days til my next triathlon and im trying zone 2 on the bike as well. Fingers crossed.
@AverageRunningPT
@AverageRunningPT 3 года назад
You got this my friend!
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