Zoom F6: Is it time to upgrade your recorder? | Curtis Judd

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In this episode we discuss whether or not you should upgrade to a new recorder from your ZOOM F6. We cover things to consider when choosing a potential new recorder- and when to pass on shiny new tech. In this episode we examine what’s available on the market in late 2023, show you how to determine whether recorder features will be useful to your workflow, and give you some opinions on and examples of when it’s best to upgrade versus not. Let’s take a closer look!
If you’d like to learn how to make great dialogue audio for your film and video projects, please have a look at my courses including processing dialogue audio in Adobe Audition and DaVinci Resolve/Fairlight, recording sound, how to use the Zoom F4, F6, F8, and F8n, and how to get the most from the Sound Devices MixPre series of recorders. Our latest courses cover Sound for Live Streaming with the ATEM Mini and an Intro to Izotope RX. See school.learnlightandsound.com for more info!
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Gear used or mentioned in this episode. The links below are Amazon.com, B&H Photo, Sweetwater, DVEStore, Perfect Circuit, Trew Audio or other affiliate links. As an affiliate, I earn from qualifying purchases:
- Zoom F6 Field Recorder/Mixer - B&H, Sweetwater, Amazon geni.us/pCFS
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- Sound Devices MixPre II Series - B&H, Sweetwater, Amazon geni.us/O8e0
- Sound Devices 888 Field Recorder/Mixer - B&H, Sweetwater geni.us/O8e0
- Sennheiser MKH 50 Supercardioid Condenser Microphone- B&H, Sweetwater, Amazon geni.us/iYb065
- Sennheiser MKH 416 Supercardioid Shotgun Microphone - B&H, Sweetwater, Amazon geni.us/AVgsgHZ
- Sennheiser MKH 8050 Supercardioid Condenser Microphone - B&H, Amazon geni.us/mUcDk
- Mogami XLR cables - B&H geni.us/awnBq2I
- Canare XLR cables - B&H geni.us/8y4B
- Impact Turtle-Base C-Stands - B&H, Amazon geni.us/8a8tt
- Amaran 200x S LED light - B&H, Amazon, Aputure geni.us/y6ym5V
- Aputure Light Dome II soft box - Aputure, B&H, Amazon geni.us/AuMKRr
- Aputure Spotlight Mount - Aputure, B&H, DVE Store, Amazon geni.us/kfAj
- Rosco Prismatic Glass Gobo in Cool Lavender - B&H geni.us/GWKt
- Canon C70 Cinema Camera - B&H geni.us/ABYB
- Canon RF 24-70 f/2.8 lens - B&H, Amazon geni.us/qwsEs
- Panasonic GH5 camera - B&H, Amazon geni.us/InspOl
- Panasonic 12-35mm f/2.8 II lens - B&H, Amazon geni.us/gr47
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Copyright 2023, Curtis Judd
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Index
00:00 Summary
00:10 The Big Question
00:57 Bad reasons to upgrade
02:14 Be specific!
03:30 The $$$ farce
03:49 Good reasons to upgrade
05:04 How to stop impulse gear-buying
06:40 The impact of 32-bit float
08:06 My Take
08:20 Please buy my courses

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@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

NOTES: We cut to the Sound Devices 888 at 4:13. Could you hear a difference? 32-bit float - I'd like to clarify that I don't find 32-bit float recording universally useless, I just don't use it for my work because it isn't really a benefit. I usually record in controlled conditions without screaming or yelling. So if you're going to record in controlled situations as well, 32-bit float may NOT be a MUST HAVE feature for you. Also note that 32-bit float will not save audio that clips at the microphone (microphones have their limits) and especially with most wireless microphone systems - if the audio clips before it gets to the recorder, the F6 cannot fix that. On the other hand, many of you have cited WHY 32-bit float is useful to you. That demonstrates that there ARE valid use-cases for 32-bit float recording.

@patrickchase5614 8 месяцев назад

Being a typically pedantic engineer I'd observe that 32-bit probably isn't as important as floating point. As you and I once discussed in comments (IIRC) it's very likely that Sound Devices is actually using something like FP24 encoding over the air with the A20, but I've yet to see anybody complain about the quality, and some simple math explains why that would be the case - the human auditory response is nearly logarithmic, such that small differences are only perceptible at low magnitudes. That means that the required mantissa precision for "perceptual perfection" in an FP encoding is fairly low. In any case, I think FP/32b/whatever is most useful when you don't really understand your source for whatever reason (and even then only with very high dynamic range mics).

@Gio_EL 8 месяцев назад

@@patrickchase5614 Fascinating, I'd love to hear more! You might want to make a video about it. I barely understood a thing, but I didn't know that 32-bit and "Float" are different... things? Cheers! - 🐧

@filmowaniezprofitem 8 месяцев назад

not at all

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

@@patrickchase5614 Agreed. And most of the time, the dynamic range of what I'm recording is not that extreme. Same for a lot of others recording interviews or talking head video.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

@@filmowaniezprofitem I think you are in the majority. Most people wouldn't be able to hear the difference. 👍

@saptarshisarkar7184 8 месяцев назад

This is the kind of preaching that the world needs right now. Your videos and opinions are always very honest, 'annoyingly sensible', and a total no-nonsense, bang-for-the-buck kind, which I totally admire. Now, I am not trying to prove any point here and would be more than happy if I am wrong, but I still would like to test the limits of my listening skills and would place my money at the TC 1:52, which is where I think you made the switch from the Zoom F6 to the Sound device 833 . . .

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

Thanks! We’ll post the time tomorrow 👍

@JAmediaUK 8 месяцев назад

+1 on the "'annoyingly sensible " :-) these videos stop me buying toys i "need"

@johnhmaw 8 месяцев назад

I love my F6. I don't ever expect to change. I use it for recording live performances of music ensembles in which I am playing. 32bit float allows me to know that I can just pop it down, set up the mics and think about the music I am playing, without being distracted by wondering about the levels. The recording is secondary to the playing, and it's the music that I need to concentrate on. I obviously can't monitor in a performance situation, so I have to take the risk that there may be problems elsewhere. Great video, as always.

@mattcarlson12 8 месяцев назад

I was surprised on his different current take of 32-bit float versus many of his previous videos talking about how amazing wide dynamic range audio can be. I find 32-bit float to be game changing personally in my video business, but to each their own. :)

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

Sounds like it fits your situation nicely 👍 Always makes me happy when a product fits a user really well.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

I'm not down on 32-bit float, just warning people that for spoken word recordings, it may not be a MUST HAVE feature.

@bobcat6653 8 месяцев назад

I love my F6, especially after taking your training class on how to use it, your class made me so much more confident with this recorder, I DO plan to stay with it!

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

Excellent! Keep making great sound!

@erikpreston2393 8 месяцев назад

Love this straight talk, Curtis. Thanks for your guidance, it's been such an accelerator for me, both this channel and your courses.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

👍❤️

@abb0tt 8 месяцев назад

30 day wait by writing it down…wonderful advice. I appreciate you sharing your humbling experiences. I am can relate to this on many levels as I have given in to the dopamine of buying tech or leaping into things too early. Tough love, we all could use it more of it-I’ll always heed the genuine advice and tough love I receive. We should all pay it forward. ☮️❤

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

🙏❤

@skychep 8 месяцев назад

Hi Curtis, you are 100% right, I am still using my H6 since almost 3 years now, no complain at all. Awesome review, thanks 👍🏼🙋🏻‍♂️ - José

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

👍

@morrelldaniels 8 месяцев назад

Great advice, thanks. I have zero complaints about my ZOOM F6. And to your point, as a solo operator, the only time I had sounds issues was when I didn't use my headphones to double check my setup.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

👍

@winfilms3681 8 месяцев назад

Thanks!, I just picked the zoom f6 as a 1 man band. so far loving the power options and 6 channels!

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

👍

@Htoon2008 5 месяцев назад

Curtis, seu video foi tão honesto que não há palavras para acrescentar. Parabéns!

@aaroncarroll2844 8 месяцев назад

Always helpful Curtis, thank you.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

👍

@roland.boyden 8 месяцев назад

Great video! Gonna use that waiting 30 day thing from here on out. Love that

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

👍

@jonathansamonte551 4 месяца назад

Very informative content. HUGE THANKS !

@curtisjudd 4 месяца назад

👍

@rimonproduction 8 месяцев назад

Thanks Curtis ! Very helpful content.

@curtisjudd 7 месяцев назад

👍

@Ein-Stuck 8 месяцев назад

I actually just puchased one and this video certainly makes me feel better about it, thanks

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

👍 Happy recording!

@mauriciolee7349 3 дня назад

Thank Curtis for this helpful video about Zoom F6 & 32 bit audio float.

@kingcharlie4 8 месяцев назад

I just recently upgraded to a MIx Pre 10t ii after using my F6 on several, small projects. For me, I knew it was time to make a change once I was struggling to clip 4 receivers, a commtek, and a timecode generator on my waist bag while navigating the device itself primarily as a solo operator. I love my F6 but the ergonomics and ease of use were what made to decide to move on. It hapilly sits in my bag as a backup recorder though :)

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

Totally makes sense! And it's a great backup!

@108arnont 8 месяцев назад

You are the real people, I like the point of view in the video cheers!

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

🙏

@Ed-davies 8 месяцев назад

Some excellent food for thought Curtis! I couldn't tell when you switched over. listening back yes there is some more clarity to the 888 but I didn't notice, especially with YT compression!

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

Thanks! Yes, hard for most to tell the difference. You have sharp hearing!

@hectorarroyoburgos848 8 месяцев назад

Bought an F6 few weeks ago thanks to you videos. Before I used a Taskam 70d

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

👍 Happy recording!

@Edwin-- 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for another nice video, and the red nail polish looks great on you! 😜For external recording I use the Sound Devices MixPre 3, and for in camera recording I like the good old MixPre D's which still serve me really well. 24 Bit recording is more than sufficient if you take some care about mic placement and gain and fader settings. See no reason yet to upgrade anytime soon, still very happy with the results.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

👍

@carlosq00 8 месяцев назад

Terrific advice! Auto Mix is what pushed me toward upgrading.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

That makes sense. The F6 Automix is OK, but not great.

@Moravia90s 8 месяцев назад

Great video as always. Not quite a F6 owner or user myself, but a couple of weeks ago I purchased a F3. Definitely can attest 32-bit is not a fixer of all the issues in the audio world. In fact, I only got it for one reason (need to record audio from loud live shows with insane volumen shifts and it works like a miracle). But other than that there is nothing that 24-bit won't handle if proper mics and care.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

👍 Happy recording!

@mattgray9297 8 месяцев назад

The F6 changed the game for me. love the form factor. In run & gun scenarios with multiple people mic’d up it sits perfectly in a tactical chest pouch and I can monitor in auto mix while filming with both hands. Im selling my old F8n and Mix Pre 6 II because neither had been used for two years.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

Awesome! 👍

@truecuckoo 6 месяцев назад

Hey, thanks for the video, and all the good content. I’m planning on recording with a quad ambisonic mic in the near future. It feels very experimental with few set standards. Would the F6 be a good field recorder for quad ambisonic field recording?

@curtisjudd 6 месяцев назад

Yes, the F6 supports the most common ambisonics modes.

@CinePals 8 месяцев назад

The Zoom F6 is used daily in one of my studios. The only thing I wish is that the headphone jack was higher quality akin to the MixPre6-II. Don't know if that would be enough to get me to replace my current one, but it's on my wish list.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

Yes, agreed, and also agree that alone is probably not worth the upgrade.

@andrewstainer3106 8 месяцев назад

I really like the F6 but I ended up upgrading to the Zoom F8n Pro for two reasons. First, the headphone jack on the F6 tends to lose audio when slightly jostled or moved. This occured on my first F6 and a replacement one as well. The second reason I upgraded was I liked the idea of having a backup SD card. I still carry the F6 as my backup recorder.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

Good points and seems like a good choice. 👍

@techmed-rainer 8 месяцев назад

Danke!

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

Thank YOU!

@spikeboydell 8 месяцев назад

Love your work Curtis… Still very happy with my F6 which I bought when it was first released. I have often recorded in both 24bit and 32bit float (just in case) but in four + years I have never needed to rely on the 32bit float version. Yes, the knobs are very small… but I have used the Bluetooth dongle from new and I can control everything easily using the F6 app on an old iPad. As for the case in the field - my review of the ORCA bag for the Zoom F6 is still my best performing video! 😊

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

Hi Spike! Good to hear from you and great to hear the F6 is still working well!

@rockrecordreport7136 6 месяцев назад

@@curtisjudd His comment is mainly about using the F6 app on an old iPad, that is it really. Have you tried that?

@curtisjudd 6 месяцев назад

@@rockrecordreport7136 Yes. All good. 👍

@InventiveImagery 8 месяцев назад

Love your vids

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

🙏

@rodrigofeiteira 8 месяцев назад

I got the zoom f6 in 2021 because I was doing a lot of fast run and gun shoots and I wanted 32bit because I might not have the time to manage gain. I use it in a sound bag and for me it works great. For me the biggest sell was the 32bit and the npf battery. My only problem is the lack of combo/instrument inputs. But that's solvable with adapters and di boxes.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

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@chungdha 8 месяцев назад

Its great, just I find timecode still often most confusing to set up. Sound bag definitely wanted to find a bigger bag to fit all the receiver in as the dedicated bag from ORCA is way too small. And would be interesting if you can tell which other bags would be a better fit as would not want to buy mutilple bags try which would fit it the best.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

That's the thing, I haven't found a great bag for the F6 so I don't have any good recommendations. Sorry about that!

@bayburtluzihni8103 3 дня назад

I think, ktek stringray one is outstanding for solo booming lightweight indie setup. Super fit and various belting options. I’am just attaching two sennheiser to front pounch and use the sides for timecode, ifb another receiver if needs. I just wished to attach a clips or something for arms or so but imo it is great for one man indie sound bag

@TommysPianoCorner 8 месяцев назад

I have the F6 and in fact got it for the 32 bit float capability. I use it for recording myself playing piano and so unless there is someone to help me, setting the gain optimally isn’t easy. 32 bit float simply means I don’t need to worry about it. I totally agree that it doesn’t ‘solve’ any other issues. Bad mic placement will always get a bad result.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

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@carboncut 8 месяцев назад

Love the F6 from new, added the F8 (used) after, in both cases having the integration with iPad pro using dedicated apps a favourite feature for usability.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

👍

@Bazzie_B 8 месяцев назад

Thank you for sharing. What would you recommend for output audio for a director to listen in? This kind of work is rare for me, but I would want to be ready

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

An IFB of some sort. Lectrosonics is the first place I'd look.

@randyrektor 8 месяцев назад

Great video as always, Curtis. So much hype for 32bit. In my humble opinion, 32-bit float is really only valuable for a couple scenarios. 1, recording massively wide dynamic ranges in one take. ie, a conversation and a gunshot. 2, recording things that you just can’t mess up. Ie, one take of a fighter jet passing where you really don’t know how to predict gain levels. I also see the logic for solo shooters who are preoccupied with an abundance of cameras and other gear. I’ve used 32-bit on my MixPre6ii ONE time. It was for some sound effect recording. It’s been in 24-bit ever since lol.

@thatcherfreeman 8 месяцев назад

Tbh "recording things that you just can't mess up" is maybe a broader category than you give it credit for. If you shooting narrative and the first take of a scream or some sort of shout was the best one, but you set your levels too high that it got clipped, then you've messed up. I get that you can avoid that with safety tracks and analog limiters, but 32-bit audio is cheap and directly solves the problem without either of those workarounds. I don't want to throw away a single take on the grounds of having clipped my audio, and with the F6 I have not clipped audio a single time and it's good to have that peace of mind.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

*if your microphone can handle the sound pressure levels of the scream. Important for those with wireless to know that many can still experience clipping in the wireless system, excepting some of the latest generation.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

👍

@steven_charles 8 месяцев назад

I sold my previous ZOOM F3 and bought a used MixPre-6 II based off your videos and I absolutely love it. Reasons why I bought it: ** Curtis said so 🤣** 1. It’s a recorder I can grow into and covers me for anything that I would want to do in the future. 2. Analog limiters. 3. The customer service is phenomenal. So if anything happens to the recorder, it will be a hassle to deal with them. 4. I can record to the SD card while simultaneously using it as an audio interface. 5. The form factor. I have my camera mounted on of it 6. It’s capable of generating timecode. This is something that I find myself using quite a bit since getting the MixPre.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

Glad the MixPre is working well for you! 🎙

@JustinOpinionChannel 8 месяцев назад

The Zoom F6 is a powerhouse workhorse. I use it constantly in the studio and in the field. I always use 32-bit Float, because I often am recording where there is gunfire (very loud spikes of course) and it's great to pull them down to "normal" level and still have the full wave and sound profile. I still don't use it to its fullest capability. I appreciate you cautioning people on "gear acquisition syndrome", something we all are bitten by on occasion.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

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@PianoManChuck 6 месяцев назад

Hey Curtis - been a while! As a musician & recording engineer I've had my F6 for about 4 years now and its been (and will be) my recorder for the field (or whenever I'm not at my home recording studio). Has everything I need. No need to 'upgrade' (upgrade to what, anyway?). In my recording studio I use a QSC TouchMix-30 Pro. For recording/tracking, I feel the F6 does just as good a recording/tracking job as the QSC. Before I had either of these two recorders, I was constantly upgrading to get the latest/greatest. There eventually comes a point when you have the 'best' for your particular situation and, as far as I'm concerned, I have the best for both the studio and the field for my particular purposes. I can't possibly see where 'upgrading' will get me anything more at this point with either of these. The trick is to know when you have the absolute best for your situation - AND - to know that any 'upgrade' will not buy you anything other than 'features' or 'looks' that won't contribute to your final audio quality. The end user in my case, those listening to music that I've recorded (ie: bands, singers, soloists, you name it) isn't going to know (or care) about how you got there or what you used. The finest compliment I can get is "wow, this recording quality is unbelievably good". I feel I have the equipment and know-how to accomplish that. No upgrade is going to improve on that. When you can realize that you have that best equipment for your situation (whatever that may be) and that 'upgrades' won't improve on that, then you have finally matured to a level I can respect as "professional". Sorry to say that until you reach that level, and constantly feel the need to 'upgrade' to something 'better', well, you're just a hobbyist. Just thought I'd throw that in for any other musicians / studio recording engineers out there.

@curtisjudd 6 месяцев назад

Thanks, Chuck. 👍

@chrisso1973 7 месяцев назад

Thanks Curtis, your tough love is much appreciated! I have an F6 and love it for recording in the field as its flexibility (an 32 bit float) works well in meeting the endlessly changing circumstances. That said, sometimes I wish it has the form factor of the H6-top facing interface, larger dials etc. I find the smaller, front facing layout a bit of a pain when it’s not strapped to me facing upwards. If Zoom came out with a 32 bit H6, I’d seriously consider it.

@curtisjudd 7 месяцев назад

👍

@gringochapin 5 месяцев назад

I think they heard you. Zoom recently announced the new H6Essential with 32-bit float. Only $199 and it will be released in the next few weeks. Can't wait!

@curtisjudd 5 месяцев назад

@@gringochapin Waiting for my pre-order to arrive 😉

@KevinLe 8 месяцев назад

❤❤❤ I love my zoom f6. The only reason why I could consider upgrading would be to the f8 is to have 8 channels. Thats about it. Also, I thought for a second that Curtis painted his nails and had really nice hands haha

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

💅🏻 I try to keep my hands and fingers tidy. But those are Emma's hands. She's our producer.

@DylanSaliba 8 месяцев назад

I'm still rockin the OG F8!

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

Rad! Good recorder!

@jidenshaotoko 8 месяцев назад

Hey Curtis! Awesome video as always. As someone who's only recently found out about 32-bit float (thanks to one of your videos), I'm still trying to learn the key differences between it and 24-bit linear. All I know about 32-bit float is that you can adjust levels after the fact without affecting noise floor. Around the 7-minute mark, you mentioned that 32-bit float doesn't solve all the problems... would you mind elaborating on what problems you're referring to? Or does your pinned comment cover all of the problems you were referring to?

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

Microphone placement, microphone choice, microphone fit to voice, mixing channels, managing noise in your recording space and more.

@jidenshaotoko 8 месяцев назад

@@curtisjuddAh I see. Thanks for your reply Curtis! Appreciate it.

@sym214 8 месяцев назад

thanks for the video! would really love ur take on the 633 vs 833 next!

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

The 633 is out of production so if you're making a living as a sound mixer, I'd probably opt for the 833.

@sym214 8 месяцев назад

@@curtisjudd i currently own a 633, should i do an upgrade though?

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

@@sym214 Ok, let me ask: What does the 633 NOT do that you need it to do for your work?

@sym214 8 месяцев назад

@@curtisjudd i would say the EQ function is pretty attractive. And noise assist should impress clients haha

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

@@sym214 Yes, and the compressor and the plugins, including NoiseAssist. Yes, if buying today, I'd opt for the 833.

@MuslimBestLife 8 месяцев назад

Hi Curtis, thanks for this vid on gear, I was looking at diff gear to purchase since it is black friday coming up - for someone new getting into recording youtube talking head videos, would it make a diff to get something like a zoom f3 with 32 bit float while booming rode video mic pro shotgun mic just out of frame and then hook that to my camera, or is it enough to hook the mic up to record directly to my camera?

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

I'd start by connecting the mic directly to camera.

@EricLikness 8 месяцев назад

Tough love, indeed, indeed. Especially this close to Black Friday. Thankyou for this public service to us, the listeners. Spend your money wisely and where it will do the max benefit. Even if that means buying good, name brand sound blankets 😸

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

😀👍

@rumorscameras 8 месяцев назад

since i got the rode wireless pro, i stopped using f6. connect the mke600 s to the rode transmitters and i recieve both mics on the camera, vey sweet, no more cabling

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

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@darrenorange2982 8 месяцев назад

Having a F6, I can say most issues people have with it can be easily solved including the case. Also you can dual record 32 and 24 bit if you really want to. Considering how tiny the files are as compared to the video files I think it is trivial. That being said also, what helps audio is more and better mics. Shooting narrative and dialog a major benefit is having 2 or 4 mics all set up to capture each person and sometimes more than one angle or position, allowing movement in tight spots or with limited crew. 32 bit completely solves leveling and such but you still as yo pointed out need good placement of the microphone. Other benefits to 32 bit is post processing has a lot more to work with and cleaning up things that you can't do much about like window blowing leaves around becomes easily removed. With timecode and other things you can just split the in and out with a left right channel splitter, I've done it it works fine. Anyway Cheers and great video.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

Glad the F6 works well for you. However, I haven't found 32-bit float better for cleaning up noise. That's still a challenge whether 24 or 32-bit float.

@OrigEntertainmentOfficial 8 месяцев назад

We've probably pushed this thing to the limit. I made a custom mount to fit it into a larger sound bag. I use a 6 way splitter to send audio out to transmitter for director and wireless hops. Plus added a little volume knob for the director's headset. We could be better at using the ipad to add meta data. I wish the timecode port was locking. I wish the ergonomics were set up differently to make it easier to route all the cables. I wish the power management could be better to power all the lavs as well. But we only use this occasionally for larger narrative productions which is currently not our main line. So I don't see us upgrading or side-grading anytime soon. Maybe if I found a better bag for this, it could help?

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

Possibly, yes. If it isn't going to pay for itself to upgrade, I'd stick with the F6 and look for a better bag.

@kenyontech 8 месяцев назад

The mic and placement is indeed more important. Thanks much for this. I have a NTG5 as my sort of do everything mic (indoor and outdoor etc. ) Ive been really wanting to get a SDC for my untreated space I just wonder if there is anything budget that would be noticeably.better than my NTG5. Just ranting here. Keep up the good vids.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

The RODE NT5 is pretty good but I wouldn’t say noticeably better.

@focuspulling 8 месяцев назад

I love how this video (1) treats owning an F6 as a foregone conclusion - because it really is that rare product that beats the clock of product churn and was a bargain to begin with - and (2) schools people thinking they need to upgrade, with a reality check. I was tempted to upgrade to 8 inputs in the F8n Pro, until realizing that I'd lose key features like NP-F battery power. The biggest flaw of the F6 (that you've already addressed in your original review) is the terrible headphone port pre-amp performance.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

👍

@jo3media 7 месяцев назад

So what would you recommend for a solo operator from a sound perspective? I really like lavs for interviews but am thinking about getting a new sound recorder upgrading from my zoom h1n.

@curtisjudd 7 месяцев назад

Depends on a lot of factors, but a good boom mic would be my first investment.

@borneodemandproductions6864 3 месяца назад

Hi Curtis, thanks for the great video! what's the best time code jammer device for zoom f6? I have f6 and thinking of getting nanolockit or do you have better suggestions perhaps? thanks again!

@curtisjudd 3 месяца назад

I prefer the Tentacle Sync E for those who work on macOS.

@mistermastermind528 7 месяцев назад

Upgrade from the F6? I only have my Tascam DR-40 for years now. Still reliable as ever (just need to keep it away from phones though). I have been watching reviews on field recorders and lav mics not just as replacements but perhaps additions to the arsenal (the portacapture X6 looks interesting). However, this video says that I might still be good with what I have for now. Thanks for the tough love, Curtis!

@curtisjudd 7 месяцев назад

👍❤️

@sabezr 8 месяцев назад

Making the list and waiting a month is absolutely the best advice

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

👍

@nickridleyofficial 8 месяцев назад

Great points, I still use my F6 as a backup to my Nomad. One overlooked reason for upgrading is that some producers look unfavourably toward smaller equipment, falsely believing bigger gear is better or more professional. For instance, having spoken to several camera people; one reason they say they upgraded from smaller Sony cameras (A7 series, FX3, etc.) to the larger bodied models was to conform to uneducated producer expectations. As you stated: compact gear is just as effective.

@patriotbarrow 8 месяцев назад

I mean yes and no. A larger body such as the FX6 has built in NDs, timecode support, loads more buttons for quick setting changes, SDI and a form factor which lends itself far better to rigging, balance-wise. The image quality is the same as the Alphas, but quality of life is a vast vast improvement. Also much better battery life.

@nickridleyofficial 8 месяцев назад

@@patriotbarrow Agreed, but a camera like the BlackMagic 6k Pro carries most of the options you listed. Yet when I’ve heard of operators bringing that to non-union projects, they’re given funny looks from the producer(s) just because it’s smaller than its big brother, the Ursa Mini

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

Yes, unfortunately many others have reported this type of decision making from producers. However, there are some advantages to kits built around recorders like the Nomad.

@PiattFilms Месяц назад

Great video! Very helpful info. Curious, what is that software that shows up around 5:45? It looks like it would be super helpful for tracking gear, knowing what to pack for different types of shoots, what needs to be prepped, etc. Thanks in advance!

@curtisjudd Месяц назад

That’s Airtable. 👍

@uncle-english 8 месяцев назад

There are two reasons why I'm contemplating the purchase of an upgraded recorder in 2023. One is to have a controllable compressor or noise gate, and the other could be the auto-mix functionality. While the Rode Caster Pro II performs well in terms of DSP, I still encounter issues with bleeding when recording both myself and a guest. Just like what you have said in a previous video, choosing dynamic mics with cardioid pickup patter, maintaining the distance, minding the position can help with the problem. Yet I'm still curious whether a more advanced recorder can help with this. I'm not sure.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

In that video, the sample at the end with the MixPre automix and dynamic mics helped make a much cleaner mix.

@uncle-english 8 месяцев назад

@@curtisjudd Exactly, that is very inviting, yet costly

@SalsaBailaProductions 8 месяцев назад

Way back after watching one of your reviews i purchased the mix pre3 i never regretted it. The only annoyance of the unit is the small screen and weird location of the power button.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

👍 I’ve heard quite a few people complain about that but I like that it is VERY hard to accidentally turn off.

@SalsaBailaProductions 8 месяцев назад

@@curtisjudd oh never thought of that;) good point

@lacemupboxing5051 3 месяца назад

I started my career 3 yrs ago as a sound mixer. 15 features, a ton of commercial and corporate shoots. ALL ON MY Zoom F6. But I have to say, Ive been turned down by alot of gigs because I was operaring a zoom. I rent out a SD 664 when I get a high end production. The F6 is small recorder. It gets frowned upon and its looked at like a amatuer recorder. This is the year that I want to uprade and still keep the F6 as a back up or when I want to drop the bag in a car scene. Zaxcom Nova 2 has been really calling my name with all features for a easier work flow and the built in receivers. Yes very expensive but i believe its worth it if you have the money to invest. But for now Im buying a used 633 or 664. Simply for the in/outputs and for more of a professional recorder. (Dont like the small touchscreen on the Mix Pre 10 but the green lit knobs are fire.) That being said. As of now, other than my home, the Zoom F6 is the BEST INVESTMENT I have ever owned in my life. Almost at a six figure income all on this $700 recorder. I Learn alot from your channel Curtis. Keep grinding brother!

@curtisjudd 3 месяца назад

Thanks for sharing!

@krdcountrytv 8 месяцев назад

I made the almost fatal mistake of dropping my F6 earlier this year, causing the bottom plate to break, thereby losing access to the 1/4" hole to attach the recorder to an arm or similar. The recorder still works but now I wear it on my belt, which is fiddly and sometimes uncomfortable. I think the next solution will have to be some kind of audio bag. The recorder is too good to give up and too expensive to replace. My situation is the opposite to yours. I film and record trains outdoors (solo operator) where I cannot control the recording environment. The 32-bit float deals with the variable noise that trains generate very well, especially the intrusion of locomotive horns or steam train whistles, which can be very loud and play havoc with an otherwise good recording. A bit of pp in Adobe Audition and then some compression in Resolve Fairlight and all is well!

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

Nice, yes, good example of a use-case for 32-bit float.

@KaidoLP 8 месяцев назад

I find 32 bit quite useful in scenarios where the expected source volume is unknown and there cannot be a retake. Theater in my case. A very good analog limiter with low noise preamps and a bit of experience would also do but setting gain in post is much more comfortable.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

👍 good use-case for 32-bit float.

@alexandersobolla9945 8 месяцев назад

I actually “downgraded” from a MixPre6II to a Zoom F6. In Germany the MixPre costs more than double now, so by selling it I can have a bit of extra cash in my pocket. Additional reasons for F6 for me: More convenient L-Battery mount and Automix at no extra cost. I use it for podcasts though, not film shoots

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

Glad it works well for you!

@QLFProductions 6 месяцев назад

First Off Curtis, thank you for your expertise. Need guidance with my zoom F6. I recorded an almost 5 hour event and it seems like the F6 breaks up audio after each hour of recording so I had 5 separate tracks. What's the best way to combine the tracks so I can use Final Cut to automatically sync audio? In the past I put the separate audio files into logic pro x and removed the gaps, them bounced it out. That worked before but not this time. Final cut pro will not sync the audio properly. Maybe because it's 5 hours. Frustrated with trying to use the better audio and ready to just make the best out of in camera audio. But I need to figure this out for future reference.

@curtisjudd 6 месяцев назад

I don’t have experience with this particular scenario, but I’d try syncing the video clip to each audio clip independently and then drop all the synced clips into the timeline, trimming the extra video footage.

@QLFProductions 6 месяцев назад

@@curtisjudd thank you! It’s an event videographer’s problem lol

@NaipiaGaming Месяц назад

I wish to upgrade to a F6 in the future when I need more inputs and timecode as I am currently on a F3 which I love.

@curtisjudd Месяц назад

👍

@MrHamit64 Месяц назад

Kurtis what does pressing the headphones nob do? also what's the mode of operation? Like is the screan part supposed to face towards or away from you? Just to b sure I'm using it wright. I'm getting the hang of the app.

@SpaceAgeConsulting 8 месяцев назад

Funny that the Zoom F6 was the focus of this video. I purchased mine as a *HAVE TO HAVE* piece of equipment and sold off my mix-pre3... because I needed more inputs. It just so happened that Covid shutdowns occurred the next month. In three years I have yet to use the Zoom F6. The "30 day waiting period" idea would have saved me a good bit of money. And, yes, I am not upgrading the F6 to anything else in the near future.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

More inputs, that's a good choice.

@Mik3J 8 месяцев назад

I just replaced my Zoom F6 with the Tascam X8, but only because my F6 SD card slot failed and I didn’t have time to repair it with jobs lined up. But I’ve been very happy with the Tascam, their ergonomics are way better in my opinion. But the F6 was overall quite good for the last 4 years.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

👍

@petrub27 8 месяцев назад

Tascam x8 is trash. I have it. How are you enjoying the ultrasonic hum

@QLFProductions 6 месяцев назад

Can you feed audio from the F6 line out directly inro the mic input of a camera?

@curtisjudd 6 месяцев назад

Yes

@QLFProductions 6 месяцев назад

@@curtisjudd thanks

@Nicolas_Fradet_NFD 6 месяцев назад

Hi Curtis and thanks for the interesting video. I have a small technical question :) I'm shooting with a Sony FX6 camera and I'm looking to improve my audio quality. I'm looking for the best audio quality for an electronic music concert recording. The Zoom F6 in 32 BIT with Timecode of my FX6 (tentacle) Input 1 = DJ console output. Input 2 = with an ambient microphone for the crowd. This kind of concert is very variable in terms of decibel. in this case, is 32bit interesting? And what would you recommend as a crowd mic?

@curtisjudd 6 месяцев назад

Yes, seems like a good setup. I’d like at pencils condenser mics for the crowd. There’s a huge range in price. For a reasonable price, consider the RODE NT5.

@Reflected_motive 8 месяцев назад

Many mentioned reasons why I bough F4 althrough F6 was in my price range, 32-bit float is sure nice but still not must have in many scenarios. SoundSpeeds vid also helped alot in that choice!

@jake. 8 месяцев назад

I still love my F4 it has some neat features you dont find in most recorders under 1200 dollars like automix xlr outs, full routing matrix, support for a external fader board etc

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

I miss the F4. I'd love to see an updated version with a better screen.

@Drone443 8 месяцев назад

I'm waiting on an F4 refresh myself, the rotary encoder is a huge step up from the F6 to navigate menus

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

@@Drone443 100% agree.

@meatbyproducts 2 месяца назад

Love my F6. I do use the 32bit float since I record in the field and around loud noises like trucks and guns. I wish it was shaped just a bit different. But no real issues.

@curtisjudd 2 месяца назад

👍

@mattcarlson12 8 месяцев назад

I was surprised on the different current take of 32-bit float versus many of his previous videos talking about how amazing wide dynamic range audio is. I find 32-bit float to be game changing personally in my video business, and it's not because I don't know how to set audio levels. The benefits of 32-bit float are vastly greater and more affordable, in my opinion, than the comparison of filming RU-vid videos on an ARRI versus a cheaper camera. Apples to oranges. I always love Curtis's videos, but that take seemed a little, "Get off my lawn 32-bit float." ;)

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

I don't hate 32-bit float, I just don't think it is that useful for my work where things are generally recorded in a pretty controlled environment and without a lot of screaming or really loud sound effects. I suspect there are a lot of people who are very enticed to "upgrade" to a recorder like the F6, just for the 32-bit float capability, and I don't think it will help them all that much. But for some it will, I suppose. So, no need to get off my lawn. 😉 But also, good for people to be realistic about whether it is worth the $750 USD.

@heikkiillikainen3471 8 месяцев назад

Personally having a SoundDevices recorder also gives peace of mind that it's not going to fail in -35c temperatures. There's a few Zoom F8 recorders in my city and they have serious problems in cold climate for example not turning back on if you happen to shut the recorder off. Most sound recordists are not going to have this problem but you never know when you end up on a gig in Finnish lapland or other arctic area :D

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

Good point!

@pwoblem 8 месяцев назад

I have both F6 and F8n and 02:30 is actually the only thing holding me back from using my F6 on my boom op projects. The F6 is lightweight and everything is great about it, but navigating through the menus is ridiculous and takes forever. I bought my F6 to go along with my rode nt-sf1 and it is mounted on a stand together with the mic, they both live on the stand and i never take them off. In other words thats a great use for the F6. The F8 is my work horse and navigating through the menus is quick and flawless. For the F8, i'd rather have 4 big knobs as on the F6 and then have a knob to switch between gain control of channel 1/5, 2/6, 3/7, 4/8

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

👍

@rickhickman2730 5 месяцев назад

Hey Curtis, I'm not sure whats going on with the timecode for my F6, hoping you can weigh in. I'm plugging a 3.5mm into the in/out for the F6 timecode port, and into my a7C's mic port. I see a strong signal, but when I try to do update timecode in DaVinci (newest version, 18 something I believe), I'm getting weird updates that don't match with the timecode in the F6 internal clock. I have it set to Int Freerun for the F6 timecode, and I can hear the noise in the a7C's recording. Wondering if you can weigh in, maybe I'm using the wrong cable, I know your first F6 video mentioned left/right for in/out on the timecode, but I didn't really understand what that meant (new to this). If you could help, always appreciate it!

@curtisjudd 5 месяцев назад

The first thing I'd look at is the output level. Reduce the output level if you can. It is possible its clipping the camera's mic input.

@nikolailantano8521 8 месяцев назад

Ive been using the zoom f6 for over a year now and the problem ive been having is the number of outputs and finding a control surface for it other than my phone. Other than that its been a good ride working with it.

@nickridleyofficial 8 месяцев назад

If you're looking for a way to send a second channel out from the F6, say you're feeding both a boom op and producer monitor separately. You can set the F6 to output isolated boom feed to the line out, and use a splitter to route your headphone out to the second monitor for your producer feed. It is certainly a workaround to the limited number of outputs on the F6, but doing so prevents you from spending more money on another mixer just for more outputs.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

👍 perhaps Nick’s suggestion will at least solve the output issue.

@cleverghostchili 8 месяцев назад

I still get clipping in the high end for reasonable audio like speaking loudly in 32 float. Also sometimes the audio is too low and when compressed there is lots of noise. Can you help me with my user error? F3 functions essentially the same right?

@curtisjudd 7 месяцев назад

It could be the microphone. Which mic are you using?

@curtisjudd 7 месяцев назад

And yes, the F3 functions similarly.

@mediakobo 8 месяцев назад

The F6 is pretty much perfect for the type of work I do -- corporate and event videos, mostly as a one-man band. My top wish for it would be an additional SD card slot. Redundancy is very important for me. After that, XLR outputs, even mini XLR, and more gain/better sound quality on the headphone output.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

👍

@melankolikfilms 8 месяцев назад

I love your nail polish, Curtis.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

Thanks 💅

@gopaladas 8 месяцев назад

i think the switch was in 2:14 - the be specific section. right?

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

It was actually 4:13.

@richardweddle3408 8 месяцев назад

What are those XLR cables I see in the video? a Jolgoo ?

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

Mogami with Neutrik connectors.

@analogFEEL 3 месяца назад

Hi Curtis, thanks for the informative video! I'm using both a Podtrak P4 and a Zoom F3, mainly for podcasts, it's a two-person show most of the time (F3), and very occasionally 3 persons. The F3 works just fine, the problem is when I plug in 2 or 3 SM7B to the P4 it gets a little bit noisy. The noise is subtle but I can clearly tell the sound quality is a bit worse than F3. In my case, is it worth an upgrade to F6? Thanks in advance!

@curtisjudd 3 месяца назад

I definitely prefer the F6 over any of the PodTraks. You’ll also get automix which is very helpful for multi-person podcasts for getting a cleaner mix.

@JohnnyMotel99 2 месяца назад

I've had a MixPre 3 mk1 since they first came out, very, very happy with it. It was 'expensive' back then, but I have never had a problem with it and the analogue limiters do their job. Previously I had a 552, so that had me hooked on the SD ecosystem. I didn't need more than three XLR inputs since we mainly do single person interviews, but now I have bought the AUX upgrade and if I wanted to I could use those channels for say a Rode Go system. I looked at the more pro recorders that SD make, but couldn't warrant the extra $$$. I looked at Zoom and others, but back then I felt the ergonomics of those recorders did not match that of SD. I have thought to upgrade to the Mk2, but again, what real extra benefits would it bring? I'd rather spend money on upgrading my powering systems to something like Smallrig V Mount batteries, or getting a better fluid head.

@curtisjudd 2 месяца назад

Solid reasoning 👍

@moneyboys2010 6 месяцев назад

Curtis, I would love to know your thoughts on 32 Bit Float for Weddings (such as Tentacle or like the DJI Mic 2 ?) Thanks in advance Brother.

@curtisjudd 6 месяцев назад

It’s a helpful tool for weddings but doesn’t solve all the problems. Cheap mics can still distort before a 32-bit float recorder ever receives the audio signal and the recorder can’t fix that.

@janisporietis 8 месяцев назад

Thank you for the video! I still haven't outgrown my F6. I've also taken good care of it, but recently I've noticed that the channel knobs go unresponsive for no good reason. For instance, I can't turn a channel off or adjust the volume in playback and then suddenly I can. It's very frustrating. To my knowledge there has been no damage to the controls and they all feel the same as when I bought the device four years ago. I've been thinking of reflashing the firmware, because it almost feels like a software bug rather than a physical one.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

Are you using the external control surface? Also check your fader knob setting.

@janisporietis 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for the reply! No, I am not using the external control surface, but thanks to you I now know that the knob setting can be changed :) unfortunatelly that was not the issue. Sometimes the track can't be turned off, the knob clicks to it's off position, but the light is still on and so is the track.@@curtisjudd

@winnegehetoch 8 месяцев назад

If you’re using iPhone or iPad (no Android alas) you can try the Bluetooth interface. The symptoms you describe, sounds like worn hardware or the like. My F6 was exhanged after around 6 months of use, where it suddenly one day was missing channels 1-3 (or was it 4-6?) on one side of the critter. Took a week or two through a local shop, I use. Regards

@janisporietis 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for the idea. However, I don't have any Apple products. I feel like the knobs should not have worn out yet, because It's not something I use daily or sometimes even monthly. That being said, I do realize that very few things these days are built to last :(@@winnegehetoch

@winnegehetoch 8 месяцев назад

@@janisporietis Things fail. Most of the time within a few months after purchase, after that seldom, but the failure rate slowly rises over the coming years and months. Someone WILL get hit. It’s pure chance, lottery if you will. Even of you treat your gear perfectly, you may get hit, and another user kicking his gear around, never sees any trouble worth mentioning. That’s life. ANY gear will fail. The Big question is only: WHEN (never IF).

@spanishprisoner Месяц назад

I have the deity TC-1 Timecode devices and I am not sure I can use them here with the F6. Does it work?

@curtisjudd Месяц назад

Yes, with the right cable.

@brand23media 24 дня назад

Excellent advice, Curtis! Sure, there are some legitimate reasons as to why you might need to upgrade gear, but more often than not, you really need to step back and ask yourself if it's going to solve any real problems and are these "problems" real or just perceived? Heck, I'm just as guilty of Gear Acquisition Syndrome as the next guy! More often than not, the answer is just improve your technique and learn to better use the gear you own right now. Great commentary/content as always!

@curtisjudd 19 дней назад

👍

@dadbeatdead 8 месяцев назад

Mine hasn’t worked properly for a year now. It shuts down after an hour and then sooner and sooner with each power cycle. I’m not doing much field work and was primarily using it for recording additional channels for a podcast, but after picking up a secondary rodecaster 2, I have no use for it. I want to pull the trigger on a MixPre but I’m hesitant with not knowing if the next gen is around the corner.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

👍 Curious: if the RODECaster is working for you, what would the MixPre do for you?

@patrickchase5614 8 месяцев назад

The F6 was my first "serious" audio interface. I sold mine to a friend when I switched over to Sound Devices, but the F6 was rock solid in every respect except for the ergonomics. As you say it's not the easiest device to manipulate on the fly. I can hear very small difference between an F6 and a MixPre or 8-series at ultra-high gains with dynamic mics, and I can measure differences with a 150-ohm test plug, but I've yet to encounter a situation where the F6 wouldn't have been "good enough" from a pure audio quality PoV. The way the F6 implements trim vs gain is just silly, though IMO.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

Yes, I agree on all points.

@PeterMossUkulele 8 месяцев назад

Hi Curtis. Just out of interest, when you record in 24bit, do you use some kind of "Safety net" such as a limiter at 0db due to fluctuations in your voice level?

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

I do have the limiters turned on, yes, though I usually leave enough headroom that they never, or very rarely, engage.

@PeterMossUkulele 8 месяцев назад

Thanks. I'm sure RU-vid (and myself) would be interested in an instructional video on how you prepare your audio levels in a home studio set up (24 bit). Do you have a set script for a sound check? Do you include laughter, coughing? You could demonstrate where you like to peak. I think that would be a very informative video. Thank you. @@curtisjudd

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

@@PeterMossUkulele If it is a scripted piece, I'll usually aim for peaks no higher than -12dB and aim primarily for -18dBFS. If it is unscripted, -24 to -18. I don't have a set script, but I usually tell them I'm setting levels and I need them to talk at the levels they're going to talk when the camera rolls. I ask questions and get them to laugh, if it is unscripted.

@PeterMossUkulele 8 месяцев назад

Thank you for this useful information. @@curtisjudd

@economicswithivan9737 8 месяцев назад

I use mine to change the levels of a wireless go and send it to a pa system via xlr (recording on the way). I used to use an f4 which was amazing and then an f8. After they both died, I moved to the f6. It isn't nearly as good for this. I adapt the 3.5mm output to xlr with no problem. But the range of usable levels is really narow. On the other 2 recorders I ended up with about 45 degrees on the gain dials where the levels were about right. This gave me enough control. On the f6 its around 10 degrees. This makes it very difficult to control the volume. I finally gave up and got an attention cable to knock the wireless go's output down 20db and learned to live without finer gain control. It's a shame, it's a wonderful recorder. But the added complexity wasn't getting me gain control like it did with the f4 and f8.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

👍 makes sense. Another ergonomic/practical issue.

@_gregvalencia 8 месяцев назад

My issues with the F6 are all Bluetooth related. I have the Bluetooth module but when pairing with the AtomX Sync on my Ninja V, it can only pair with one and essentially marries itself or it. So if on a different shoot grab the wrong AtomX Sync, I need to reset the F6 to factory settings. So I decided to buy an Ultrasync Blue and it won’t pair with that. I bought the F6 before the F8n Pro got the 32 bit upgrade, I wish the F6 had the same form factor and a dedicated time code input

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

I hear that!

@kurokid2441 8 месяцев назад

I've upgraded to F8N pro which meets my all needs by far. There's a time that I really want to spend the money on Sounddevices Mix Pre 10 II...but first because of the budget and second because of it's far beyond my whole working scenes. Right now I'm working fine with F8N pro and feel relax to cover nearly all of my working situations. Besides, I'm using 32bit float all the time because most of my working is to record the class at school. The scary dynamic I will face when students say "Stand up" "Hello Teacher" "Goodbye Teacher" and some time they scream at the time I can't not expect...32bit float always work good for me. Thanks to the video for curing me with the "think twice list"...which helps me with preventing me from spending money on those I dont really need.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

👍 Glad the F8n Pro works well for you!

@kurokid2441 8 месяцев назад

yep. And I also dont forget to enroll your F8n Pro course~@@curtisjudd

@ograce6659 8 месяцев назад

Should i upgrade my zoom f4? I've been working on more and more gigs as a location sound mixer and I'm thinking about upgrading my f4- should I ? Or should I focus on upgrading other things like wireless channels

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

What problems are you having with the F4? It is a great recorder.

@ograce6659 8 месяцев назад

@@curtisjudd honestly the main thought would be more inputs, analog limiters, and truthfully I feel like having a sound devices brand in my kit makes me a little more hire-able but that might just be bogus

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

@@ograce6659 I hear you. Some people claim that being able to say you work with a Sound Devices recorder/mixer have gotten them jobs. Just making that claim has never gotten me a job, but there may be some truth to it.

@richardweddle3408 8 месяцев назад

The square shape made the Zoom F6 difficult to handle. Mounting it below the camera made camera operation difficult. The knobs and buttons are too close together for my fingers. I sold it and bought the MixPre 6. But I held onto the Zoom H6 for a backup.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

Nice combination 👍

@angyuexiangaaron 4 месяца назад

Love it, but the battery at back keeps coming off

@rsmith02 8 месяцев назад

A RU-vid channel telling me I don't need to buy things -refreshing!

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

We got you! 👍

@neilgibb5265 8 месяцев назад

Logical and sensible. Thanks. I use 32 bit when I can't figure the level accurately, air show jets, and unknowable levels in one shot news type situations. I think mic type and placement are far more important. The Zoom recorders sadly enforce a false concept, shotgun mic don't zoom as a lens optically, into a sound, they dip is a pool of sound and the further away the more reflection.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

👍

@drmajedmalak 8 месяцев назад

if I am not mistaken there is no single Naumann review in this channel.... Thats I guess supports your point in this video... Thanks Curtis. your channel is one of the best and most credible

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

You know what's funny? I own a Neumann U87 Ai and I prefer the sound of several less expensive mics on my voice over the Neumann.

@drmajedmalak 8 месяцев назад

@@curtisjudd RU-vid needs more channel like yours. Thank you for your time and knowledge