ZWIFT 'HoloReplay' Ghost Riders: Race Yourself // Pace Yourself! 

This is exactly what Tacx developed and used in 2000 with their original imagic software. It was always ended up being the optimal way to pace and race yourself to some good form.

I'm glad to see that AdZ is included. Easier than looking at the distance covered and segment time and doing math in my head to figure if I was ahead or behind at that point.

we've been waiting for this since Sept. 2018 😅

Brilliant

Great intro music 👻

Even though we can't see it, cloned Lamas roaming the worlds is awesome. Can't wait to try it.

My prediction is that they're rolling this out now so they can put a skull and flames on for Halloween 💀🔥

6:05 Nice ;)

ooo what a great feature

thanks for another great video. Question re: pairing with Zwift. I am using a 4iii hr monitor to bridge as per your older video with Zwift. Recently I notice my cadence will not go over approx 65rpm. My usual is 85rpm. The bridge used to work fine but no longer. Any thoughts? I am using Zwift on apple tv with wahoo trainer and all software is up to date. Any help would be appreciated. Love the channel . Best Ted

great video again, I won't be renewing my subscription and getting back onto Zwift until this winter (northern hemisphere) but I'm looking forward to trying this out. I'm curious if the ghost jumps around as you exit/end a shorter segment and then enter a longer one that you're already partway through? I could see Zwift making one of the ghosts colored in the future, it makes too much sense and would be easy to implement. From your videos, it looks like the recent and personal best ghosts look the same, which could get confusing even if we know the personal best will always be in front of the recent. I've always wanted a "add bot" feature in zwift, like I could get in my old Tacx software, and this is one step towards that.

Sounded good until you said it's only timed segments, would be much better for instance if you could pace ride any badge route, also should be able to save a bot to pace with and have the option to switch it out if you beat it (can eradicate the group ride enhanced efforts)

Finally I can challenge someone who match my requirements 😂

Hey Shane, this is my first time ever RU-vid comment! I really like the way, you present new ‚stuff‘ 👍🏿! Keep it up

Great! Now they are starting to add value rather than changing fonts only. Would love for them to disable PRs during workout mode.

Would be really cool to have a ghost rider on the FTP Test workouts!! Super incentive to push hard on an ftp test if you are chasing your previous ftp test. Also if it had recorded watts instead of speed, then wouldn’t matter if ghost was in a draft or pace group.

This looks like a really well thought through complete feature. I love the fact that they have been recording the data for the last 6 weeks to that it is ready to rock when they launch it. Great work from Zwift!

finally I can hate my old self 😂

Kind of a useless feature unless you ride exclusively on a TT bike in game. My PR solo up the Epic KOM is 90 seconds slower than my PR riding in a group in a race. Racing against a ghost who has a draft when you don't is pointless.

Cool, thanks. Can you reset/clear previous ghost riders so if you have set a PB with a pace partner you can delete it. also it would be good to have a ghost for routes, i'd like to race myself over full routes, can you do that, will zwift make routes segments? Cheers Shane

The "catch" you mentioned there with the PB you set in the group ride, could be the best training tool when you're chasing down that PB when you're solo. That will hurt lol.

Would be cool if it worked in TT events

This must have taken you ages to record all of those scenarios from all of those angles. Super well covered. 👏 This feature is pretty much to appease the KOM market on AdZ and Epic KOM. Lots of complaints about pace partners skewing it. This is overall a win. Can imagine they’ll eventually segment ghosts based on if you were on a PP or not. They’d have the data. But the rolling 90 days give you your rolling “seasonal PB”. Huge improvements for the game with this and the new PP.

This is freaking AWESOME !

I was waiting for this. Looking forward to trying it out.

Excellent summary as usual. Had a funny when I tried this on AdZ...showed I was up by about 1:15 on my ghost rider 30-day PB on the rider display table on the right as I finished but my actual AdZ time was more than 3 mins faster than the PB (so I was further ahead than I realised / was displayed). I have no idea why there could be that much of a difference. Any thoughts?

Hmmm, I’ve done a couple of rides with these ghost riders popping up and I’ve already turned them off. Doing laps of the volcano with one of the pace partners one lap was particularly fast and having the ghost waiting at the banner every lap got annoying quickly. Then tonight I really didn’t need reminding just how slow my tired legs are. To me this feels like Zwift pandering to the very vocal people on the forums, but it’s something that isn’t going to be a huge benefit to the majority of users.

next feature... ghost magpie attacks mimicking outdoors.😀 I'd really like an eta from the start on all climbs - maybe a ghost of a possible pb from a quicker rider above you on the list, that's more useful as group ride ghost is a problem when solo. but interesting nonetheless.

It's all a bit silly really a bit gimmicky, I had a ghost rider for a bout a second as I was always above my previous PR on a segment and New how to pace that section to beat my previous best

As always great review. Years ago BZ (Before Zwift) one of my favourite apps on my iPhone and iPod Touch while on the trainer was RaceMyGhost. Glad to have my Ghost Riders on Zwift now. 😊

One thing I wish Zwift would add is Tethering to pace partners. Say you need to use the restroom, or have to tend to something for a few mins, I would like to be able to "tether" to the pace partner, which does not add any time to my ride, or count towards any distance/elevation gain. Then you can un-tether when you come back, thus not having to completely end your ride and re-start over again if something gets interrupted.

I'd do this if it didn't cost hundreds for the turbo trainer, hundreds for a road bike then £13 a month or whatever the subscription is to the game.

Aaahhhhh almost perfect. Wanted this feature forever but I'm really bummed your "best" is 90 day rolling and not actually all time best :/

i used the ghost riders today on hilly route,on second lap had three ghost riders ,pb ghost , previous ride segment ghost, and current lap ghost,i guess it will this work on all routes ,would be good the be able to ghost ride longer routes on the second lap

Too bad it won't be available when I do the Finish Line ride this weekend. It would be a great tool to see my Baseline ghost while doing the Finish Line.

i think i it would be a cool feature if you could set a certain time for a segment like 49:59 alpe du zwift and race the ghost to reach a goal time you want to achieve

i like this feature, but i will it would do the whole route you selected, like what rouvy does. not just segments

You answered all the questions I'd have had. Nice!

I'm famous! I got passed by the llama going up the alpe!

Interesting that this feature won't work for baseline to finish line ride in ZA

very useful in finish line ride of Zwift Academy; if it can be in event

Good to see!! But a little disappointing that it’s not available for a complete route. Have I understood correctly?

Ah Zwift, so close to understanding what people were actually asking for.... but so far. They really haven't understood. Apart from the longer climbs (AdZ) these are useless - the whole point of them is to use as a pacer and incentivise you, but in sprints etc you're not going to be having time to compare your effort to a pace bot, you're just going flat out. It would have been far better to allow them to be set for routes - they'd be a lot better suited for those given the longer duration.

This is fantastic news! But, when can we expect to see mushroom boosts and red shell attacks? 😁

Ohhhh my giddy aunt, this is going to own!!

Thanks Shane. Looks exciting

It does appear from your footage that the ghost rider replicates the data as opposed to a singular average value that you see on strava live segments. That is, if during the previous PB you dropped the power back for 30sec then ghosty replicates this as opposed to an average singular power set. Is that observation correct?

If they make this available on routes and give you the option to delete previous PBs then they'll have nailed it.

Oh no..can't draft

Thinking about it, if you use pace partners a lot, which i do, won't that give you PBs on segments that are skewed because of the draft that you then can't race/use?

How do ghosts die ? 🤔 Great video and explanation sir!

This isn’t about ghost riders but how do you join a friend on zwift in the new update. Any find the list of other riders. Thanks

Should be available during a workout, or at least an option

BRILLIANT!!!!

Will the PB ghost be 'reset' after 90 days?

Fire intro! What is the Strava symbol that is displayed on the bots name when the bot is behind you?

Hello, thank you for the detailed explanation 👍 Now I have another challenge 😉 By the way, I saw that you also continue from level 50. Just like I do. I've been lvl 50 for about 2 years, but I have far less km than you. Ride on 👍

So the ghosts won't appear during a group ride, but will they use data *from* a group ride where you established a PB the next time you freeride the same segment?

When you say they are local, does this mean you only see these Ghosts from rides running Zwift on the same device? (for example if I'm Zwifting using an Apple TV, but I typically run on my Desktop computer, will I not see Ghosts from rides done using my desktop?). Maybe I'm misunderstanding - I confused myself with that question.

it's basically Live segments for Zwift. lovin't it!

It's a nice feature, but I am now looking how to disable it. I do not want the constant pressure to set a PR each time.

Well explained and great feature. The 6 week PR for me doesn't work well. It usually takes a bit of time until I ride the same hill again. Same problem with the pr board.

Real shame this won't be available in group rides and events, ie won't count in ZPoints. I'm a big fan of the ZPoints scoring but it seems to be neglected nowadays. It's nice to go for segment PB's knowing it'll get recorded in ZPoints and boost scores. This is basically only going to work for solo efforts on free ride. Maybe something for the future?

Very cool! Does it work on Repack ridge?

will it be smart enough to realize your route is taking a left off the climb?

I saw one for me in a Pace Partner ride earlier today, so that must be deemed as a Free Ride too. Not that it was especially useful! or Free!

Can the ghost rider give ride ons to you and others at the same time you give ride ons, essentially doubling the ride ons given?

suprised it came out today! good stuff

that's awesome, thanks 👍

Thank you for this.

At long last!!

One of the biggest anti climaxes I’ve had, would have been great to race yourself on an entire route, plus where your ghost rider doesn’t follow speeds set when you’re on a pace partner ride or group ride. Ever get the feeling you’ve been conned!

Great feature 👍🚴🤩

Did the Ghost not reappear after the second lap of Volcano with the new time?

For the ghosts up AdZ, does it record per hairpin turn or overall?

Pity they did not make it possible to create a ghost rider at a specific w/kg on the same route you are riding. These ghost riders are practically useless for anything worthwhile, even though they might be fun to catch up to. But there is no real aim to them.

Thanks

AdZ indeed. -U10