I’m so glad I watched this tonight. I had just placed an order on amazon for a 4th gen Apple TV and immediately canceled and bought the 4K instead. Thank you so much! Love your videos!
We did not have an Apple device and were having a lot of trouble using a Kinetic Smart Control with the Android bridge to PC. I switched to the Apple TV 4K and it is solid. I didn't realize the 4K would be better since my screen was 1080p, but the comparison on this video convinced me to spend the extra $20 to $30 for the 4K to get the better processor. I actually had not even heard that Zwift would run on Apple TV until I saw this, but it is a great way to create a permanent setup without a computer.
Set my Zwift up on Apple this week with my new Tacx Neo 2T on a 42 inch tv. Wow what an experience riding on Zwift is now and the Neo is amazing, especially the road feel it gives and racing has a whole new dimension now. The setup was so quick and easy just as you said on here. I watched this prior to the installation so thanks Shane for your great advice/tutorial. Keep up the good work.
Great review. Straight forward and understandable. As a total Zwift noob looking to start, it has cleared a lot up for me as a thought I was going to have to buy a laptop or gaming PC. Brilliant 😀👍
Just hooked up the 4K version last night and I’m using it for the first time right now. Previously had the gen 4. Agree with you Shane, I really amazed how much better the experience is. Normally wouldn’t spend money for the upgrade but glad i did.
I just changed from using my Samsung Galaxy s8, which worked very well to the ATV 4k. The ATV is an improvement. It now renders shadows. The frame rate is better (the android wasn't bad but it's not as good as ATV) and the colors and detail are much richer. Because I was using my phone, I couldn't run the companion app but now I can. The one advantage that the android version had is that it was very easy to navigate the screen because of the touchscreen on the phone. The ATV remote isn't nearly as bad as people say but it is clunkier than using a touch screen obviously. The companion app though makes up for it. I still mount my phone on my bars and run the companion app as a control panel. The ATV is worth the $180 and it's actually going to be better than a business PC. Unless you already have a gaming PC, this is the best option.
After watching your very good video and your analysed synopsis, I’ve ordered one and can’t wait to get rid of my old out of date laptop . Must stop watching your clips and I seem to be spending more and more money on cycling 😂😂
Right I’ve just bought an apple 4K and got the Tacx vortex at a reasonable £209 I’ve downloaded the app and got my garmin watch now all I need is a bike 😂 Great vids ! Subbed 👍🏻
Putting together a plan to get on Zwift and was going to use my Gen 4 Apple TV but after viewing this video I may go for the 4K.. As usual Shane, GREAT CONTENT!
After watching this Vid I had to go out and buy one. Really impressed with the setup not needing the MacBook to run Zwift with the Apple TV hooked up to the TV permanently. Thanks Shane 👍 Graphics are sensational.
@@marshallhughes4514 Did you get the bike or the smart trainer? I'm looking at a bike but your post has me scared. They do seem a bit wobbly in reviews.
@@carterfrance6924 I bought the Zwift. This is my third and with about 1,000 miles in I have developed the "wobble" others have mentioned. The main wheel is not perfectly aligned. I mainly ride outside atm but I am disappointed overall. I think I will get a different brand when this one kicks the bucket.
I’m using the 4iiii viiiiva hr strap to bridge my ant+ speed and cadence sensors to Apple TV (and iPad when I use that) so far it’s worked brilliantly easy to pair all devices and gives speed,cadence and hr on the iOS devices.
richard stephenson Does the bridge count as just 1 of the bluetooth inputs on the apple tv Zwift pairing screen. I'm having lot of problems pairing up 3rd input (Wahoo Cadence sensor) through the Zwift App so might need to invest in an ant+ bridge.
MarkyFo On the tvOS pair screen, my ant+ cadence,, speed and heart rate all paired with the Viiiiva hr strap and work with the Zwift tvOS no problem, the remote still works as well so it must be using just 1 Bluetooth input for all three sensors. I assume the viiiiva hr band receives the ant+ speed and cadence input and packages this up with the hr data and re-transmits it together as 1 Bluetooth data streem.
Awesome video!! Just installed the Apple TV 4K 3rd gen.. very simple to install..and the graphics looks awesome..I used a high quality 4k hdmi cable on my Samsung Tv that automatically upscales to HDR and 4k and it said 60fps.maybe it’s the high end hdmi cable..
Great review Shane. Looks like a killer budget Zwift unit. I was interested by two observations. One, the power readings were often vastly different on different devices. Is this just a lag/refresh issue? Two, it was interesting to not how two units render completely different times of day in the same world.
No idea on the power readings sorry, I didn't even take note of them, I'll assume it's a view/refresh thing. There's no problems in-game for the rider. World times... I've mentioned this to Zwift. Not a priority for them to sync worlds. Which makes these comparisons difficult... and raises these exact questions. Time of day needs to sync imo.
I've done a few "Ask Lama" videos. I spend a few hours daily responding to comments and emails.... which doesn't scale well. Anything is possible once I'm set up. At the moment there's a tonne of backlog sitting here for me to work on.
Yeah, I saw that and it got me wondering if you had thoughts of making it a weekly/scheduled thing. And yeah I'll bet you get backed up trying to respond to everyone. Which is great that you take the time to do by the way. Anyways I just ordered the kickr17 and I'm sure to have some questions which got me thinking about Q&A. Thanks again for all the great videos they have been extremly helpful!
Little side note on the mobile map you can press on dot of other rider on the map and it bring up who it is and you can give thumb up and look at there sheet.
Loving the apple 4K TV version, beats carrying a laptop out to the garage. Slightly off topic question Shane, lots more achievements were added in Zwift recently, but most are secret (some running ones i guess), any chance of a video on them?
Just purchased the apple tv 4k for my pain cave aswell, slowly building my zwift setup as a new beginner. Only downside for apple tv is that it wont support Spotify for some inexplicable reason. But for now im just playing music on separate system and let the game sounds come from a tv. So no using headphones with ingame sounds. :) Also thanks for the video ! Really helped me alot with the decision what to go with. Funnilly the android beta was what got me into this.
Nice video, explains a lot, however would be nice to be shown what the actual remote can actually do.Like most of these videos it’s use ZML and get on with it.
The AppleTV remote? I spent a few minutes showing the operation on screen within this video. Skip to the 'User Interface' link in the video description.
No really a swift zwift tip but I suppose it could be if anyone wants to get a "deal" on a 4k apple TV. In Canada and i am sure in other countries as well, you can go to an apple store and trade in your old iphone for cash toward a new one. However, apple also have a deal with a company (based in USA so if Apple Canada use them, Apple USA may as well) where you can send old iphones for money in the form of Apple gift cards, which can then be used on any apple product. I had two old iphones kicking around and have sent them in for what I hope will be $160 (they make an online offer then a final offer when they receive the phone). I believe it's called the Apple Trade-up program. Look into it...
Just for the record... You cab probably get twice as much or more for the phone if you sell it privately on Kijiji or something similar... I sell all my iPhone's this way... It gets sold in hours!
what a great review, exactly what I was looking. for with the comparison on Apple TV 4k vs Gen 4 (which I have). I'm now on amazon looking to buy 4k version b00m! Also tonnes of other useful advice, hints n tips that I learnt today. keep up the great videos. #staysafe
Thanks for this. I am not an Apple guy but this works great with my Wahoo Blue SC. Better than a new computer. Can't figure out my HR monitor yet, its Garmin so finnicky.
I think Alienware i3 with GTX 860M looks the nicest. At 8:14 and 8:19, shadow features can be seen, and the road texture looks richer and more detailed than the Apple TV 4K. But overall, the Apple TV 4K looks like better than a whole PC rig.
The limited Bluetooth connectivity seems to be the major drawback for me. How effective/fast/glitch-free is the Zwift mobile link app work-around (both in terms of Bluetooth and ant+)?
Hi Shane. Great video. Just starting out on my cycling and turbo trainer journey. I am new to Zwift and this training type. I recently bought a Tacx Neo 2T and it’s great. The only problem is that I don’t really have the right equipment to get the most out of it. I’m using the Tacx software but I am intending to use Zwift. I’m only using my iPhone and although it is a Max it’s really not big enough to get the full feel of videos etc. I want to move to using it on a television and I reckon an Apple TV 4K will do the trick. My main problem is this. My pain cave is my garage but it is slightly too far away from house to get a wi-fi signal. I am going to use my iPhone and tether it to Apple TV. That seems fine in terms of working the Apple TV but on your videos I’ve been watching the iPhone is also a controller when used with Zwift. Will it all work well? I’m trying to get a wi-fi signal to my garage but having problems at every step.
Sort the base issue first and improve that wifi. Here's a very good way of doing that: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-AwX1HkuSrY4.html
What is the “cable” device called as I’ve bought 4K Apple TV to pair with my wahoo kicker and can’t connect that, my cadence and heart rate monitor all at the same time Keep up the good work
Just got an Apple TV for my Elite Qubo Interactive. I'd seen a bunch of comments compatibility with this trainer. Nope. Worked fine the first time and without using Zwift Mobile on my phone. That's next. Really simple. The bad news was how low my FTP turned out to be. But I can console myself that I'm old. Sigh.
Great video! Just got an Apple TV 4K last night. I downloaded and use the Apple TV remote app on my iPhone so I don’t need the included Bluetooth remote. Is there a way to disconnect it, and if so, would that free up a Bluetooth connection for either my hrm or cadence sensor (Kickr user)? Thanks!
There’s no way I know of to disconnect the remote on the ATV4K. See my recent video about the Viiii HR strap bridge that can solve the Kickr cadence connection problem.
Hi Shane. I've been watching your videos over the last 2 weeks. They are fantastic. I'm considering putting a TV and buying the 4k Apple Tv. Do you know if the shadows are now showing in the Apple TV?
Just what I was looking for. All my PCs and laptops are Linux (Ubuntu), so I was out of luck. Cheaper solution than buying a high end Windows or Mac PC. Plus I can use a big screen TV.
Just did my 1st ride on Kickr + Swift + Apple TV 4K and oh boy, it’s harder than I thought. Also, navigating through the screen using the Apple TV remote is a pain! Do you think the 2021 Apple TV remote will help with this issue since it comes with directional cursor? (I think)
Believe it! :) It updated itself later on. I don't see updates for tvOS being as critical as something like Windows (argh! But I do love it) or things like power meters and GPS units where usability can be greatly impacted by bug fixes.
Shane Miller Sorry. I had to say something as it seems like the first thing you usually do is check. Picked up my Apple TV today and had it setup in just a few minutes. I like it better than running Zwift on the iPad. Thanks for all your videos - they’re always great to watch and learn from.
Hey Shane, can you open custom made workouts in Zwift on Apple TV? I have the older (not 4k) model and it doesn't show up on the menu. I get not being able to make them with Apple TV because the interface is not easy to use, but I think I should be able to at least use the ones I've made on other platforms. Hoping it isn't just me.
Hi Shane. First off all, thank you very for your channel. Helpful, interesting and well recorded! I have a good Zwift setup with a Tacx Neo, Samsung 117cm and a PC with a gtx970 = Zwift paradise. A friend want to take Zwift and ask me for the best setup. What can I recommend him for the PC? The last apple TV 4k? An Alienware? Or an another mini pc? He wants the best Zwift experience (graphics) Thank you.
Do you have to repair the cable device every time you use zwift, or does it remember devices? I'm concerned about the time it takes to get set up to run the Zwift program. Am I over analyzing here? Thanks for your time.
AppleTV. It's a device for things on a TV.... like Zwift. Makes more sense. iPhone will have people calling and messaging you 1/2 way into an interval if you haven't switched on do not disturb.
Hey Shane! Love your videos! Do you know if there are any upgrades to the Zwift experience using the latest Apple TV 4K Gen 2 over the Gen 1 you highlighted in the video?
ATV app is good because I can use my iPhone 6s for the companion app, but the visuals are slightly better using AirPlay. Are the visuals good enough on there own to warrant a 4K or do I need another excuse for a second ATV (the kids do get annoyed when I rob the ATV)?
The PC version (Alienware) gives a better graphical experience, as pointed out with shadows. ANT+ support with Windows has been rock solid too. So for me, the Alienware wins for quality. Price wise and overhead of Windows daily administration it doesn't.
I considered this.. my 980TI gives plenty of juice... granted i had to wire a hdmi jack and usb to pass through the wall from my desktop computer to the garage but graphics wise i get 'Everything' Atv you lose things like shadows ... fast or not i like the world looking pretty ATv works in a crunch if you don't want to do more... YMMV
I bought one a few weeks ago. The controls are a pain with the remote. Seems like a problem with the current app version. I regret the buy, should have bought a used gaming pc instead
Hey Shane. Quick question. Are you able to change the date, as in change the course, on the Apple TV? I’m interested in doing a group ride with some friends in which we will change the course to just have ourselves visible. I know with Zwift on the PC this is possible, but wasn’t sure about the Apple TV.
Can you use iPad for ZML? ideal setup i guess is Apple tv 4K + an ipad on handlebar stand for quick interaction. On my phone is still bit cumbersome as you want to keep 1 hand on the bar for quick actions. Wondering of ZML will stay lit up on iPad and how it looks. Much easier to type as well on a fixed bigger screen
