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Fantastic video! Thank you very much for your, very good, explanations about LL and BJJ differences. You have a great way of speaking towards the camera and have a calming voice.
Looks a lot like Pankras so The Chinese who copy everything (even acupuncture which is mentioned in the Vedas), most probably copied it from Greece since the Greco-Bactrian Kingdom border the Qin dynasty in 230BC. As for the history the Chinese tend to make things up If the Japanese can’t develop any martial arts than neither can the Chinese. Make sense right.
They exercise the same way prisoners do in America. Where they focus less on form that is taught so much in a typical gym settings and concentrate more on snappy movements and more reps. Which obviously works given how jacked the prisoners are, even with inadequate food and equipment.
There is no evidence that Japanese Jiujitsu was influenced to any degree with mentioning by Shuai Jiao. If anything there is evidence that Judo influenced Shuai Jiao.
@@skydickey5518 Judo's origins are not a problem at all here as the question here is whether or not Judo has it's origins is in Shuai Jiao. It demonstrably does not. Japan has a very long history of creating it's own grappling heritage. It needed no help from China.
Judo is late 19 century martial art, while Shuai Jiao is much older then that. Most of Japanese martial arts were influenced by China. You rant is of a angry, envious, child. Stay mad Bozo.
Do these guys also do more traditional strength exercises throughout the week (even once or twice a week) to increase maximal strength? Or is it just conditioning and explosiveness all the time?
Hi, first and foremost thanks for watching the video! Regarding your question. They do some regular lifting although everything they do is cyclic (meaning they have training cycles where they train a certain way, for example 2 months prior to a competition they will train differently than in off season). For the most part they train mostly conditioning, explosiveness and a lot of technical wrestling, especially where they work on entrances to shots, handfighting setups which in some schools is called работка (pronounced "Rabotka" which translates to "work"). Generally Rabotka is done for a long time and in a very smooth manner, not so much explosiveness but more for smoothness in chaining the hand fighting to hip position, footwork and level change. In regards to lifting, they do lift and sometimes quite heavy although it is nothing like the type of lifting we see wrestlers like Kyle Snyder do for example. Now, this is for Freestyle Wrestling as for Greco Roman, they do more lifting - especially in the heavier weight categories. Of course each school trains differently but for the most part, this is how they train in Dagestan. Have a good day!
@@Grapplezillathanks for the quick reply! One more question if you would be so kind. Do you know of any sources or companies where someone can find or purchase a similar regiment to this? I cant really find anything other than videos like this, which are super helpful, but not enough to construct an entire program for someone. Thanks!
@@atox88 Hi buddy, in terms of a regimented workout I do not know where to buy a regimented program and I am not sure I would trust an online program as generally these types of National Wrestling programs are extremely regimented towards the wrestler's goal and over quite a long time period. Some National Team programs will have a 4 year plan (for example the Cuban National Team). I do have some good workouts on the Grapplezilla Website, they are more suited to general grappling shape but I think could be a very good place to start and best part....they are free! grapplezilla.com/increase-grappling-conditioning/ grapplezilla.com/develop-power-grappling/ grapplezilla.com/increase-grappling-strength/ Hope they help you out and have a good day buddy!
Hi buddy, definitely I can do one and I’m in total agreement that Shuai Jiao is an extremely effective martial art. Thanks for watching our video and channel and thanks for the question. Have a great day!
Hey low key I started bjj, cuz i wanted to do a combat sport so bad, i wanted to do boxing but it costs money and transport, then I said grappling is fun so i went for wrestling but the coach from my school prevented me from joining. and since bjj is more available where I live, i ended up loving it but i was disappointed that bjj was to grappling in the floor floor, n i said wasn't grappling just about tripping ur opponent into the ground, takedowns or throws. They told me that was judo or wrestling, I was nvr exposed to wrestling i didn't kn wat pinning is or shoots i was only thinking takedowns or tripping or the amuse of carrying someone was a great way of showing strength and hard work, but after searching up and seeing what happens the explosion, the escapes the elecisty and athletism, i always thought those fleshy moves u see and kung fu movies were unrealistic but seeing wrestlers do these explosive feats, the hard work were literally the hype i got from playing for games and shows. I used bjj on wrestlers, tbh n i was surprised at how effective it is, but i really wish i had the athletism of a wrestler. My jiu-jitsu instructors barely even talks about single leg takedowns. I hate how the wrestling coach in my school took that away from me. and realistically, even Bruce Lee said it takes 1 yr of wrestling and boxing to take on any martial artist, and I see a lot of mma fights win by takedown and then pounding.
I think these disadvantages are stupid. Its like saying boxing is bad for mma cause it doesnt teach takedowns. Plus all of these will be fixed in less than a year of proper mma training
First of all this was amazing! Secondly this is an absolute GEM of a channel!!! If you don’t mind could you make a video about heavyweight wrestling? Im 6’4 250lbs I feel like shooting a single/double is a whole workout on itself! Any tips?
Hi buddy, thank you very much and honestly I really appreciate your input and comment! In regards to Heavyweight wrestling, sure, we can definitely make a video on it. It may take a bit of time as we will make the video as detailed as I can so it can help you out. We have tons of tips for heavyweight wrestlers as HW wrestling is different than regular wrestling in terms of preparation of the athlete etc....we will also include some good tips for shooting for a double, attain single's and finishing them. Here are a few tips to remember (I will put them int he video as well). 1. Try to get as strong as possible while at the same time keeping up your muscular stamina and your bodies endurance. A good indicator of HW strength is if you can do a pull-up as a lot of HW's have a problems performing 1 pull-up. 2. Develop your posterior chain. There is a great saying - "Push is for show, Pull is for go", meaning if you want to look great at the beach, work your pushing muscles (chest, shoulders etc...) while when looking for improving athletic ability - work on the pulling muscles (back, hamstrings etc....) Of course you want a good balance between both but many athletes do not give enough focus on their posterior chain and doing so will give a lot of benefits for HW wrestling. 3. In regards to single legs and double legs, remember this: The easiest position of the 2 to get is the single leg, yet it is the hardest of the 2 to finish. The hardest of the 2 positions to get is the double leg yet it is the easiest to finish when the position is achieved. Use this to understand better the ability to chain wrestle between both - usually going from attaining a single leg to finishing off with a double leg (yes, even in the same chain). 4. Get really really really proficients at circular movement (spinning and scrambling) when in par terre. This will really really help you finish your takedowns and counter their counter movements better. 5. Get very proficient at hand fighting and footwork as it is going to pay off when you go for your single leg and double leg. 6. Work on explosive movements, a great way to start getting in much better shape is after a proper practice or workout, get on the ground in various positions and explode up to your feet as fast as possible. Let's say 10-20 reps from each position. Once you get good at this, try to add some weight when getting up. Use any position, conventional and non-conventional. This will also help you with scrambling and counter wrestling. 7. Understand that HW wrestling sometimes (not always) needs slight different angle changes on a technique to make it work, not only becasue your opponent is a HW but becasue you need to move your weight as well (that's a lot of weight for an athlete to move). Hope this helps and have a great day buddy, once again thank you very much for watching our video and the comment. BTW, Tom from WarYoga is one of the best guys in the business, very awesome guys too!
Good explanation, although there is much more to say.... I just consider that the LLB does not come from the jungles, it has developed in an intense rivalry with the JJB, since the 1920s in Rio de Janeiro.
Thank you,been looking for this. I am getting interested in the peculiarities of Greco Roman as fundamental type of wrestling. I wonder how it would look like if it kept rules the same but allowed submission. Would you consider making a video about Sumo? Maybe comparing to Greco? I feel they have many similarities and i wonder how much they overlap.
Hi Buddy, I’m really happy you enjoyed our video first and foremost, thank you for the compliment! It’s a really good question in regards to your question of Greco with Submissions, definitely would be interesting to see and I heavily suspect if this ruleset was allowed that we would see a lot of guillotines, neck cranks, Kimura’s and even the possibility of the rare occasional Aikido type Seoi Nage’s coming out of that amazing Greco Roman Wrestling clinch. :-) Regarding making a video comparison of Greco and Sumo…..sure I’ll definitely make one in the future as there is definitely some overlap between the 2 Grappling styles. Have a great day buddy and once again, thanks for your support of our RU-vid channel.
arnold allen vs mosvar evloev is a perfect example of what wrestlers will have to deal with once knees to the ground are legal the wrestler kept putting his hands down trying to become a grounded opponent because of knees to the head because wrestling doesnt really work when you can knee someone in the head
'wrestling has shown dominance in mma' because you cant knee a grounded opponent as soon as that rule is gone wrestling becomes the most stupid thing you can do in mma lol once you can knee on a grouded opponent as soon as they shoot for a take down you're getting endlessly kneed in the head
Hi buddy, thank you for watching the video and thanks for sharing your viewpoint. I feel that you definitely brought a very common view by many in the MMA community but I believe I can answer your comment to better answer yours. I'm an older guy and have been watching MMA since UFC 1. I feel that your comment is not based upon deep historical knowledge of the sport but it does have some truth. If we go back to the early days of MMA (not just the UFC but the Vale Tudo events and events that were held under the term NHB as the term MMA was not even invented yet) you actually saw the absolute opposite to what you stated. In the past there were soccer kicks allowed on a downed opponent, there were knees allowed on a downed opponent and there were headbutts allowed too. During this period, of all fighting styles, it was Wrestling that produced the absolute scariest fighters such as Tom Erickson, Mark Kerr, Mark Coleman and many others, all of whited used the exact tools your mentioned to smash the opponent’s. Tome Erickson of course on the Brazilian Vale Tudo events, Japanese NHB events and Pride FC, Mark Kerr in the UFC, Brazilian Vale Tudo Events and Pride and Mark Coleman in the UFC and even more so in Pride. Now I must fairly note that not all these events allowed headbutts. There was also another very specific rule in most of the events at the time which was that many had no time limits which made for a scenario that once the wrestler took down the opponent that they would keep them down and punish them with the weapons you mentioned. Now, as NHB evolved into a much more organized sport - MMA, we started to see wrestlers have a period of problems, especially with time limits and the referee standing fighters up due to lack of action. This led to many fighters (especially strikers) that used “Lay and Pray” tactics to punish wrestlers for takedowns and they did so quite successfully too (Cropcop for example). So we can see that the argument that allowing knees on the ground neutralizing Wrestling in MMA is simply not accurate. Now what is accurate is that MMA is heavily influence by the rules. Certain rules and environments (such as the cage)heavily favor certain styles over others, this is absolutely true. There is no going around the fact that Wrestling has produced the most amount of UFC champions as well as most MMA fighters have added Wrestling into their training. There is no doubt that MMA will evolve as it always has, probably to a cycle where we see those who do not come from a wrestling background winning more and more (we are noticing that now with heavier weight classes and strikers) but….there is no doubt that knees on the ground absolutely benefit wrestlers over any other fighting style as Wrestlers will a majority of of the time attain top position and when they do will knee the opponent. Thank you once again for sharing your viewpoint, watching our video and supporting our channel. Have a good day Buddy :-)
@@Grapplezilla my friend its the gayest sport from the gayest civilisation to ever exist in human history other than america you will never convince anyone that wrestling will dominate MMA without the rules of MMA favouring wrestling its gay and it doesnt work
@bachiwar6555 you still living in the past,american folkstyle wrestlers used to dominate because the were basically half of roster, nowadays there are fighters from all around the world and from different styles.
Wrestlers do in fact dominate MMA. This is a fact. If my opponent can wrestle better than me, I am their bitch. If I want the fight to go to the ground, I'm fucked. If I want the fight to stay standing, I'm fucked.
Very good question, definitely there are wrestlers who have excellent stamina and use it to their advantage but make no mistake, they are very strong too. A great example of a wrestler who does this is Sidakov. He has perfect technique and is very strong but where he really excels is in keeping the pace of the match up and many times beating his opponents through fatigue thus casino g them to make a mistake that Sidakov capitalizes on. In order to wrestle this way you need to be in top shape, make sure you are at the correct weight class for your build, train with a lot of circuit training and running hills, wrestle many many rounds each practice, increase your flexibility as it will help you counter wrestle - especially in par terre and you must be very technically sound so that when the opponent is tried you can attack properly. So that said, I would first and for most work on your muscular stamina and cardiovascular fitness through circuits and hill sprints then second get to a proper weight where you can perform at peak ability.
So you need to create pressure and properly hand fight with snaps…. We have another video on wrestling pressure where it really answers your question deeply. I recommend checking that one out and let me know how you like it buddy!
