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If one guy learns Jeet kun Do for 6 months and another guy learns Wing Chun for 6 months. And if both were to fight, I would put money on the Jeet Kun Do guy.
The snap cut is fencing, not FMA. And disagreeing with Inosanto isn’t badmouthing. Equating disagreement with disrespect is absurd. Hope this reply helps. Sincerely. Treating Dan Inosanto as though his word is infallible is literally idolatrous and antithetical to everything the Concepts guys are supposed to believe. I know we’ll never see eye-to-eye but thanks for watching.
@@JKDandWingChun Dude...seriously your mo is clout chasing Inosanto and you leave receipts with the badmouthing. The snap cut or slap cut IS in FMA. Whether they incorporated it from Spaniards is left to history. Either way I learned it through Lameco NOT fencing which I studied and competed. Flick cuts aren't the same as what you demonstrated here. BTW I can do it in pakal grip contrary to what you state in the video. You get so butt hurt you that you have to gaslight everyone that calls you out. Disrespect and anger is your thing...same way you treated me when I posted a legit question on one of your videos and your ego couldn't handle it a few years ago. Your post showed up on an FMA forum which is why viewed it. Sad to see you haven't EVOLVED into a martial artist but the con man skills flourish. Post a sparring session with someone that's not your student. Perhaps come out to CA and compete in a stick and knife tournament or a Dog Brothers open gathering? THAT I'll wanna see. Curious if you would believe that knife training is "overlooked" afterwards.
If you actually think these cute little slices will stop a conmitted attacker, you're delusional as hell. Some people dont need to be teaching, much less teaching knife combat.
@@traildaddy8846 cute little slices that cut fingers off? No such thing. We have other videos that show how much damage the snap cut does to a 2x4…and the human hand, face, and neck are much less durable than that.
that's Jim Driscoll. "Fistic science, if backed by strength and intelligence, ought always to beat brute force." Love that one...it's sort of our fistic life verse and inspiration.
I love the shovel hook, especially with the lead hand. Its also great when you slip to the outside or after any trap (you don't have to wind up for it, so you get the greatest benefit out of the window created by the trap). The low line palm strike in the Wing Chun wooden dummy form is essentially a shovel hook. I have a heavy bag drill that I do for developing fa jin ("snap") in my lead hand. I throw the straight lead to the face, the shovel jab (or up jab) to the chin, the shovel hook to the body, the lead spearing elbow to the body, and finish with a shoulder blow (called the Iron Mountain Lean in bajiquan kung fu). Between each you take a little creeping step in (just an inch or two) so that each blow is from its proper distance. Change lead hand and repeat. Even though the all come out different at the point of strike, they should all begin with the same kinetic chain from the hips to generate that fa jin ("snap") in the blow. If you're really doing it right you want to hear the bag chain shudder with each strike.
great input. Thanks. And we totally agree with you on the low line palm too. There's not enough body punching out there! It's such a great tactic on the inside...hard to defend and big payoff.
Nice. It’s difficult to charge in with head down to strike the body in a high stress, street fight situation. Do you overcome this with using the shovel hook technique by practicing on the heavy bag, over and over. A hook to the body then a hook to the head is one of the best methods of offense. Problem is being scared to do. Love your vids. Thanks.
@@surfside16 lots of reps on the bags really helps get the technique down. No doubt there. And light sparring (done right) can assist with nerves and timing.
3:12 Good job with describing the arms being up against the body. That’s bread and butter with us in Okinawan karate. All of our forms follow that principle, even the circular punch in Nainchi Shodan.
@@GeorgeMoon-p1t the third form, Biu Jee, had a version of the Phoenix eye for those inclined to see it that way. I’ll add this, though, the forms are structural foundations of applications and not an end in and of themselves. Therefore, we have the application freedom to adapt and adjust in any situation. If we can attack the eye with a thrusting fingers technique, we are certainly free to adjust with variations as well. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching.
@@JKDandWingChun did these techniques of southern china evolve from northern kung fu of shaolin settlers from the north or has it got no connection to shaolin ?
@@HayesPearce absolutely correct. The point of the method isn’t the method but its function, right? I end up irritating Wing Chun traditionalists on here because their presupposition is that method must look in application exactly as it does in training drills and forms. That’s the issue. We believe that the forms are structural foundations of applications that we need to apply to reality. Anyway, thanks for watching and for the great input too.
Very smart fighter. Held his guard quite low. A bit like wado ryu karate. His sparring drills look like set patterns. I've seen this in savate. Which influenced JKD
There were 2 stabbings' and three shootings with in 3 days of the storm in Hendersonville. Thankful for what you taught me. I still practice it on a daily basis. The good side is my wife and kids no longer tease me about prepping.😜
Thanks for sharing sifu! I’ve got 2 questions.. if you tuck in your chin, your head is exposed more.. wouldn’t that be more dangerous? One interesting mention is… Kangaroos never tuck their chin sin a boxing fight… why’s that?! Lol
@@mkleng kangaroos don’t value defense for some reason lol. But seriously, having the chin down and shoulder up makes you generally a smaller target. Nothing is perfect, of course. I’ve taken several wayward shots off the top of the noggin over the years. While not pleasant, it’s better than the jaw. Even a fairly light whack on the chin, by comparison, can scramble one’s eggs. Thus, it’s a matter of playing the percentages. Thanks. Great question.
The only Tan Sao problem is distance: all of WC moves, especially Tan Sao, works in closing the gap. That's more boxing distance in the video. Plus, rotation is key. That classical guard is just a concept of using ambidexterity to protect your center.
Love this guy. And he knows what he's talking about. As the old saying goes , "The body doesn't move." It's hard to remember this, but it's important to know. Fake a head punch and move inside and pound the body relentlessly.
@@dontmissthemoon9568 for the record, I wasn’t jogging. One too many bad jokes caused my wife to lose it. At long last. I was running from her pent up fury.
It follows the same logic as the straight lead, but since it’s a knife it’s definitely going to deter anyone who gets hit because your not gonna risk getting cut over and over.
Great video sifu. So many people still stuck in a static box. Ultimately this position is still found in the WC forms. Ive trained under an ip man/leung sheung lineage for about 4 years and when i asked my sifu about this gaurd position a while back he said its 100 percent apllicable and just considers it an "invitation gaurd". Another prominent jkd practioner that uses this method is Bob Breen. Great info and break down.🙏
thanks for the input. And you're so very right. The fence position is absolutely in the first and second forms. Great point about the invitation guard too. That's a nice way of putting it.
Thank you for sharing. I remember as a kid. I would get those books from the library all the time. And I would have not eaten that food after that lady's reaction LO. L.
Tan sau in the first form shows you only use chest level, common sense it won't work higher. A bit late now showing it don't work at high level. We are in 2024 now.
@@JKDandWingChun Couple more points might be of value. Be sure your blade is legal carry, obviously. A “toothy” edge is best for cutting into cloth/fabrics, a smoother grind, even razor sharp, can slide over fabrics such as coats, shirts.
Kung fu must be added with boxing to be fully rounded opponents are always inna live resistance it's like your defanging a poison snake limbs are in constant motions Daz why Bruce Lee implemented jkd to change with change
1:46 always smart. That’s the difference over here. I agree, TAN SAO is a great spreading hand on the inside, it can jam on the outside but a hand can be REPOSTED and so, fighters in street conflicts tend to send circles at you. Depending on stance if you’re facing away, that first circle punch is gonna come in from a righty against a righty directly around his left side face. So unless we turn it around and FACE THEM right on left, and so on, I don’t think much of the collection will work. That’s where jkd improved wing chun. It’s in those longer slicker moves like bui gee and cheung that make the difference. I see what you mean.” It’s ok to be reaching out when there’s a target to get, not from 6 feet away to look cool.” 3:01 regarding that, I connect to face when I see a bridge I’ll use it like a ramp.”
I first learned the fence maybe 30 years ago from a special Forces student 5th SF Fort Lewis Wa, at that time, the fence was being taught to special operators and I hope that it still is, as to street fighting, it revolutionized my self defense. I'm happy that you've incorporated it into Wing Chun. That takes balls to go against tradition in that way so thank you.
Thanks for the input. It’s certainly a smart tactic when the other guy is trying to blitz with rights and lefts, isn’t it? And as for going against tradition…yeah…the traditionalists out there aren’t sending much love my way LOL. Again, thanks for watching and for the input.
Sports systems are useful, but are training for the rules of the specific sport. You can't knee in boxing , rear choke in Muay Thai etc , so they are never training for this maneuver....
@@CoachSteveJandS great points. Yep. We have to be sober-minded so that we understand the specificity of what we’re training - the strengths and weaknesses of each approach. Thanks for watching.
Who are the two gentlemen to the right of your sifu? I trained in the Kenneth Chung and Ben Der family in San Jose as an 'outsider' (non-Chinese). I only trained for a few years.
The 'fence' defense is a good way to 'seek the bridge' and it allows options for control. Yeah - I went to a traditional WC school in northern California. The WC was great but there weren't any other options than the classic approach. I hate the bad wrap WC gets because it's incorrectly applied. I also like Kenpo Karate but LOVE Wing Chun on the inside - nothing more effective!
@@paul7754 It’s funny that you brought this up because we just had another dustup with a traditional guy here. They’re the worst kind of religious fanatic, treating the system like it’s sacred Scripture rather than a tool to be applied. As for the bridge, you nailed it. Once we’re in control, it’s usually lights out. Getting control is the issue…getting that bridge is the tough part that’s too often ignored. Glad you liked the video and thanks for commenting.
