Steve pass is over this situation has piss me off bad he had over a year to sign his 2 best young we have. This off season was a joke he did nothing to make this team better. Maybe be time for Steve to move up and give 1 of the assistant Gm the chance
I get being upset that Mo and Ray aren't stateside, but there may be INS / visa reasons behind that. While the team still holds their rights, they are technically not under contract, and technically don't have a job in the USA. We've seen that happen before, especially with European players, so it's quite likely they are staying there on the advice of their agency. Despite not being here, I think it's a really good sign that they are training together! I'm happy to wait a week or two into camp if it secures a long-term deal for both of them.
Yes let’s trade Berggren for another mediocre small forward lmao ... much rather hang on to Berggren who’s been a dominate shl and ahl forward and who had much more offensive abilities. Can’t expect miracles from him when you shove him on a 4th line with garbage linemates Yzerman’s to blame for constantly delaying players . Agree with him on holding a stand with raymond and seider. This is a cap world, love seider but he’s not worth more money than makar and raymond shouldn’t get a penny over 8. Entice them with signing bonus’s. Yzerman will get them done
Wow. You guys are clueless. Go back and look at Stamkos contract negotiations with Yzerman in TB. Nothing new here. Save your overreactions for the Lions opener next year. Lol
@@GrindLinePod overreaction and superficial research. Yzerman walked Stamkos into FA in 2016 before he finally signed him. I love Lucas but he’s no Stamkos.
Patches is not a player that this team needs. Time to start the rebuild with young players who have a lot to prove and are hungry. SY needs to get rid of old teammates and get actual quality Management who can help with who they need to be playing and not just a vet winning a spot because they are making money? Play the best players that show they have the ability to make the team better.
@@GrindLinePodhalf the Roster is washed up. I think SY should be Trading players and start the rebuild next season or even waive a contract I don’t care how much it is because some team might need a vet, for the young players they have. Detroit is the only team who is not playing enough youth who have more to prove than players who were paid too much for the non scoring or not defensively good but Bergs has to be better or sit while two players In Tarasenko and Kane that have no defense and bergs who can learn to play but is called out by a Hypocritic Coach that is afraid to do so with a vet.
Good pod! Finnie has to go back to junior. Prospects drafted from the OHL, WHL, or QMJHL can't be reassigned to the AHL until they've turned 20 or played in four seasons.
Like Nick's reasoning about Daniel, but choose to see it this way. When Daniel enters GR, he does not lose himself in any way. And it has to do with his attitude about being responsible in his two-way game. He doesn't carry the team right away either and he wasn't registered for a Gordie Howe hat trick either. - What the hell did they think when he was drafted... As a Swede, I am deeply impressed by his way of playing and he will have a bright future in the NHL. Brandon - MBN will not play in GR from the start. Maby he will come over after SHL season, sure but naa The guy has played at Div 1 level at the highest level. He has gone this year UP to the SHL, which is a man's league that is better than the AHL. Shall thus play in one of the league's better teams, which is also the team that is the SHL champion. To believe other than that MBN will be in the SHL to grow into a man's world is to be unrealistic. Well there is a small risk that he can do that, slightly bigger than him taking a place in RW. What is best for him, to grow into his body and continue to have a positive development as he is only 18 years old. I would guess he is ~2-4 +/-:ish years out of the NHL and that time until the NHL entry shall not be seen as negative at all. But completely in line with normal development of young people. He was pick as 15 and and Norway had two players in the first round, never happened before. MBN has a lot of good things on his hockey resume, RW has all the time in the world to let this guy simmer and they should do soo...
If he did that then he would be making the team even worse if they don’t let a Prospect who is going to help in more areas but that is just forward help and the team needs Seider and Edvinson to be able to win games because this Defense needs Seider and without it would hurt the team more than SY can imagine. Only reason Seider doesn’t have the best Stats is because he doesn’t have the Defense partner that is a top player that would not be out of position all the time.
It feels like Söderbloms playstyle is not locked to the level of hockey. He wouldn't be scoring 100 points in any level but he could score really good for a bottom 6 guy. Perfect for powerplay with that huge body and penalty kill with that long stick.
Sheesh some god awful takes here, Walman gets dumped and have a close look at our defensive pairings this year. Steve has made some god awful signings the past few years it’s time to stop forgiving every move because it’s steve.
God awful? I think that's a bit of an overreaction. We'll have Mo, Edvinsson, and Johansson. Gustafsson is a defensive upgrade over Ghost. Walman was bad last season with Mo.
The only criticism I have of the Yzerplan is the Holl contract. Toronto fans were warning us. But sometimes people come here and catch fire so Steve is allowed one bust.
The Walman trade was about having even more cap available for the 25-26 season. Sucks to lose a fan favorite but he's easily replaceable and adds to an already large amount of money available for a top tier RHD or top 6 scorer. Keep in mind that if they land one of these 2 needs it's going to be an overpay. That's how free agency works, not just in hockey but any major professional sport. Shocker when he was traded but sensible when you look at the big picture.
I like some of the Yzerplan. But nobody will ever just admit he has made a couple really bad decisions. The best current player on our team (Larkin) he didn't even draft.
I wouldn't say really bad decisions because none have cost the team anything of significance. There were some questionable moves. The Holl signing was a failure. The Petry trade was unnecessary. The Larkin point is moot since the only other Holland draft picks on the roster are Michael Rasmussen and Joe Veleno. Yzerman has excelled at drafting and completely rebuilt the prospect pool.
Walman was the 2nd best D man on the team and we had to pay to get rid of him why? Stop with the get over it, it's OK to recognize it's a bad trade. Why sign him in the 1st place?
I'd argue that he wasn't second best last season. Sure he was in 2022-23 but last year there was a noticeable difference. Ben Chiarot was better last season. Now with Edvinsson in and spots needed it was the move that made sense.
@@GrindLinePodSeider is just that good anyone on his line will look good. Walman and Chiarot barely make the 2nd line on most teams. Edvinsson came up last season and arguably was our 2nd best defender.
The Walman trade wasn’t about a return, it was about offloading a contract. Yzerman tried offloading Petry and Holl and had no takers. Walman could have been second best Dman on the team, but that’s no saying much. He’s a bottom player on most other teams, and his 21 points can easily be made up by a much cheaper Dman. Also, he’s got to look at the future too, we have many youngsters coming up. Gotta make space for them too. I’m sure this trade isn’t what Yzerman wanted, but it’s what was necessary.
The 2024/2025 SHL season begins with a full round on Saturday, September 21. Skellefteå AIK visits Malmo Redhawks and Skelleftea's next game is on 24 Sep, which is also an away game vs HV-71. Neither of them both will take a place in the Red wing this year, they are both expected to play in the SHL. Their presence is mainly to introduce (learn) the future of the team as well as everything around pre-season planning.
Here's how this all goes down. Steve sends DMac to Claude's house in the middle of the night. The following morning Seider is on a 7X7, lol. Problem solved!
I think that all the prospects that are in preseason need to concentrate on the all around game and not just hitting and playing Defense but scoring goals so they can get a chance to make the roster. Bottom 6 is not a goal scoring threat and the team needs goals from the 3rd and fourth lines and they have a few good players that can push for spots and we know that the bigger players that show they can make it and outplay the other players should get a chance and if not helping in 10 games then send them down. But Veleno was on the top line for Two weeks and he didn’t get 30 points but Fabbri and Sprong were down on the bottom 6 and they were better than Perron who was not even playing good Defense. They have two players who are not defensive and besides Larkin who had the most give aways on the whole team? Kane and Tarasenko are both not defensive players I don’t think splitting up Cat, Larkin and Raymond is a good idea. If a prospect can play wing and help the team in the top six then Tarasenko can play 3rd line and if bergs doesn’t sign and is wanting a trade then I think SY should be looking to do something he has not sign a contract and was offered one? Don’t know the price but Raymond and Seider should be signing before Bergs. I don’t know if Motte is good enough for goals which he isn’t same with Fischer and Copp. Ras was barely over 30 points and Veleno was not even at 30 points and didn’t deserve that contract. I would have let him go to Arbitration and he would have been a one year deal and or trade him for a 4th line center because we have enough fourth line players and Defense is not scoring goals. This team needs a player who has more to prove than just not doing enough. Bergs is a play maker but to who that is going to score on the 3rd or 4th line not much and if Veleno can’t get Kane and Cat to score goals then we need something else and we don’t have the cap to get the type of players. I want to see who is going to show up in preseason and see who is not going to make a difference on the roster. I seen that the NHL players were playing AHL players and the prospects play mostly against NHL players and did well. Raymond bulking up helped him to get better and it was not Kane. This team has players that are young and talented and work hard but they get shafted by others that are trying to say they learned from this player ect. They put in the effort to make sure they were successful and Raymond did that. Seider is a great player but doesn’t have to play defense for the partner that he is paired with and deserves 1st power play time and he might be able to get Edvinson to play with during the season if he says something that he is not playing with partners that are out of position. He will get what he wants. I think injuries are going to hit the team this season because too many were healthy last season.
Here's my take from watching Tarasenko in Ott. He's strong along the boards, and he's reliable in a system. He isn't overly physical, but he can deliver a solid check now and then. When it comes to his speed and shooting, he's more agile and cunning than strictly fast, and he's still decent and making space for himself to get a shot off. That being said, he performs best when he has a solid setup guy who can give him the space he needs. He really doesn't shoot much unless he feels it is high % chance.
