Getting rid of mirage dive to open eyes is exactly what i wanted. It was clunky. Though, we couldve got more imo to make use of our gauge at least. Getting rid of clunky mechanics is not oversimplifying, its cleaning up a bad mechanic for job. (summoner was killed and oversimplifying xD)
Agreed. Jumps will work identically to before, you just won’t be punished if you don’t get that mirage dive off. Geirskogul/life is less flexible now but I’m okay with that personally
I'm happy ninja is pretty much the same since I enjoy it. I was initially hopeful about the AST rework. I don't mind giving up rng for different card effects. But I'm underwhelmed by the card variation. It already feels like AST has so much healing, so the healing cards feel pointless.
monk . . . why did they murder my monk like that :(. . . if it goes like that then monk just becomes a lvl 60 generic dps. The ability to freely weave in and out depending on the situation. and enter your rotation from any point out of PB. gave so much freedom to deal with whatever a fight sends your way. making it like the others where you 1 2 3 > 4 5 6. . with no fluidity. just . . . yikes
I was wrong about monk in the video. You actually get different stacks for each form. The rotation will end up working very similarly to how it does now, just no buff or dot now
@@99_Vit we'll see. when something changes that heavily it doesn't always end up the way devs expect it to. (warning, much longer than i anticipated) as it stands, monks baseline non min/max rotation is very fluid and mostly intuitive. The only unintuitive part for a looping rotation is exiting your 2nd PB in burst window with a twin snakes to force the loop. and it's overall dps under the perfect rotation is . . not even noticeable. It's main benefit is that fluidity gives it a lot of freedom to interact and adapt to any boss fight mechanics. Where other more rigid classes can run into issues. Making it a stacking of resources type job leaves it open to issues and cursed scenarios regarding boss downtimes to me. Where boss downtimes don't really hurt it right now, since outside burst you have a 40s window to use your 2nd PB in, and can form shift + chakra charge (and yes anatman in rare cases). to exit that downtime phase in a better position than most other jobs. As you can begin your rotation from anywhere within it's range as the scenario demands. setting it up to build charges and resources may very easily compromise that. We'll see though. ranged phys may still be what i go with, as I almost always start bard. And despite you thinking ranged phys is the easiest role, bard has probably one of the most complex and difficult rotations to min/max and get higher parses on. I've played most of the melee as well. One thing I'd have liked to see them do (they didn't) was add an extra charge to Empyreal arrow. Giving you more freedom in how you use it within songs to not end up over capping on stuff like pitch perfect charges. the freedom of using songs is nice, and it looks like we'll be back to my favored Wanders minuet > mages ballad > Army's Paeon(shorter AP) cycle. as the upgraded bloodletters will likely skew the numerical values back into mages favor. On the point of Machinist . . well. that one will be interesting. MCH has a very full burst window already, and adding 2 more global within that could become annoying. Since drill at 2 charges will then mean you want to fit 2 drills, air anchor, chainsaw, chainsaw followup, and full hypercharge into a short burst window, which is about 8 gcd's of length, and any drift on drill could easily become punished. it may also allow double hypercharge burst windows a bit more freely than they are now. it's doable but it's tight with the drill timer coming off cd the very gcd you finish it. (drill > air anchor > chainsaw > hypercharge > 5x heatblast > hypercharge > 5 heat blasts.) which finishes the 2nd hypercharge right as drill is coming off cd. It'll come down to potencys. one hypercharge window is equal to 3 standard globals, and burst windows can generaly hold 8. right now that's air anchor, chain saw, and 2x hypercharge windows.
Gotta say I am happy about bard and scholar which will probably be my mains for Phys ranged and healer but I am still not sure on what to pick for melee, caster and tank, might go BLM for caster but I am not sure and for tank Idk might switch from war to pld and well idk what I should pick for melee really I played monk in ew but I am not sure if I am gonna stick with that, also great video as always
I know I missed a few details on some of these, (monk combos work a bit differently than I said). There are so many jobs in this game, if I was gonna analyze every last thing we'd be here all day. I'll figure out all the details when I can actually play them. I'm pretty happy with the changes overall, but I also feel for anyone who thinks their favorite job is getting oversimplified. Many of these simplifications might be worse for the high end players but seem like improvements for the majority of the player base. I imagine there will still be fun things to optimize on any job. Hopefully the fights this expansion make up for it! If you want to see the actual tool tips for everything, you can find them here: www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/1d9eiu1/dawntrail_media_tour_job_infographics/
WOW you started THIS expansion and already did 3 ULTIMATES! I’m trying to get like you! I started in endwalker too and only finished p9-p11. I really want to get into ultimates and maybe finish this raid tier.
BLM looks insane. I was never a fan of leylines because I always placed it and had to move. Very frustrating, but the new gauge looks insane with the bomb at the end. I just wondering if it's a new button or maybe a despair/flare proc that happens after you use that ability. The manafont upgrade is also insane because it keeps you in fire phase with a new timer and full gauge. 3rd polygot is nice, I've always wanted that, not very often do I overcap them between pulls in a dungeon but it allows you a little flexibility. In AOE situations I have no issues with weaving a foul in between flares or AOE fire but single target with the timer I usually hold on to xenos to after I despair so the potential of having 3 or 4 even 5 in a short time is insane.
I started during EW with WAR and so far nothing clicked like it, but I've leveled GDB recently to have a way to flex in PF. None of the changes for those two are getting me super excited, but for me it's the fights and working as a group that are are fun, so I'm glad I'll be able to focus on that and not have to re-learn a lot of stuff!
I’m having the same problems. I want to play so many different jobs and my main DRK kinda got shafted so I might play play NIN and VIPER along with maybe BRD and SCH
I was so scared for dragoon but i can't lie...for me this seems absolutely perfect. Especially all the new animation updates, drg definitly fell a bit behind when it comes to 123(45) combo visuals but it probably had the coolest one now.
That's not how the new Monk works. Your forms function the same moving from one to the next as you use a button in each form. Dragonkick, Twin Snakes and Demolish charge up 1, 2, and 3 orbs respectively shown in the new gauge which add potency to what used to be Bootshine, True Strike and Snap Punch (now Leaping Opo, Rising Raptor, and Pouncing Couerl) so essentially you'll press 123 - 456 - 156 - 426 etc. It's just charge gauge, spend gauge again. That's assuming they fix the potency issue on opos since the media tour build makes it pointless every pressing dragonkick.
The monk rotation will pretty much be the same as in endwalker but instead of timers you manage the gauge but each form gets different amount of charges so it's not just a simple 135 246 rotation
I am playing Reaper and Machinist and I will continue and do the MSQ with my Reaper. And I Changed my Catboy to a Male Roe yesterday. Trying the male Roe race right now and I love it so far. I am using the Noir Set as glam. He looks like a Mafia 2 character. But maybe I will switch the race till I decide which race suits for me the best :D. I played so far Bunboy, Catboy and Male Roe. Maybe I will try Male Lala too.
I can't wait for the dragoon changes, they look incredible. I'm really looking forward to the Astro changes as well. The only job that slightly disappoints me in the expansion is probably Dark Knight, I think the other tanks should be on par with Dark Knight so they aren't outclassed. The fact that Warrior has so much self sustain that you don't need a healer is a little stupid in my opinion. I'm really hoping they address it at some point.
After 8 years I still don have a main. As a casual player I play every single job but not able to fall in love with one. Im not excited about the new jobs so I will keep rotating the old ones.
I legit played Dragoon from a tales boost last night for the first time ever (everything else just got boring). I like the busy weaving! It's definitely not boring.
Hey Vit, I play a little bit of every job. On double enshroud, if it's under the same 1.5 second gcd you can opt to end 1st enshroud early, losing on a reaving and lemure slice to ensure you can get the 2 Communio and the new perfecto. I am unsure if dropping 540+240 so 780 potency to gain maybe 220 potency. No idea on what perfecto is I think 1k but can change
That or we can pop enshroud early and shuffle the use of arcane crest to just before Communio 1 clip plentiful harvest to 2nd enshroud but ensure you get all big hits in 20s
That being said I do agree with vit that it is clunky af. Even if arcane circle is 25s, fitting all these buttons in that window is gonna be tight. Whether that is a good thing or not really is in the eye of the beholder, I personally think it is something that's actually fun about reaper, but I think the philosophy of "tack on buttons to other buttons" for new expac skills. is just tired and unsustainable. Watch 8.0 have plentiful harvest 2 and communio 3 as well as harvest moon 2. I snooze.
I'm sure there will be some sort of work around, and I definitely get the appeal of it. I just need more time on reaper to get used to it better. It'll be interesting to see rotations once we get all the finalized potencies
RPR/DRG one hundred percent. Been a reaper main for a while now. I really love the class and enjoy how straightforward, yet satisfying it is. Love the theme, gameplay and aesthetic and with DT it’s gonna be largely the same, but with some new buttons and quality of life changes. Pretty hyped for my scythe man, although I’m also super excited for dragoon. Picked it up recently as my secondary job and fell in love with it very fast, and the rework did with the job everything that I have ever wanted. Same situation as with RPR; love the theme, aesthetic and gameplay and DT version of it is gonna be a blast for me. That being said, I’m kind of indecisive what to play aside from my maiming boys. Dunno if I’ll pick up other melees or pick up tanking as my secondary role to play after I’m done doing content with RPR/DRG. Other melees with the DT changes look super attractive and certain jobs that I wasn’t playing seem very inviting to try, but on the other hand I always liked to tank here and there and tanks do seem pretty fun as well, so I will have to see what time will tell.
Bruh, removing all difficulty from DRG is anything but fun. It was always entertaining to find some room for optimization here and there. Sad to see my main for past six years get such treatment, but oh well, guess people who love interesting job mechanics aren't allowed to have fun anymore.
Come on man everything needs to be the same. Every class needs to play the same...what you like to optimize and had fun with it? Nah we need to turn the class into a three button auto win class. Isn't that fun?
@@pod155 lol, yeah, having to press the exact same buttons in the very same order in every single fight for eight minutes straight is sooo much fun, can't wait for DT release for jobs to play themselves.
everyone in this reply chain is agreeing with you, like you didnt just not press mirage dive 2 before the 2nd geirskogul and then not think about anything the entire rest of the encounter
@@andylawlzz well, because it isn't the case in a lot of fights. Sometimes you don't want to delay first LotD window, sometimes you do it without buffs, and sometimes optimization can give the whole new window of LotD. There is a lot of fights where you can do either of those. And none will be possible with strict 1min cd. A huge downgrade to job's design.
Ain't gonna lie chief, been playin' a while and am used to being dissapointed by job changes but this is the most nothing burger media tour I've ever seen. Every job is "you get some shiny button btw it's easier now", besides BLM, which just got slaughtered. I am really really really not a fan of this combat design. I realize I may be in the minority but having another 2.5 years of essentially more endwalker will be just painful in day to day content and even up to savage (unless they somehow make such good raids that it doesn't matter which I don't think they will). That said Pictomancer does look cool at least, and SGE having a damage gain from maintaing 2 dots are my only 2 copes for this expac. EDIT: to your point about business on DRG - why in your eyes does being busy = good if the business is just smash all of the buttons every 1 - 2 mins? What is engaging about just facerolling your buttons with 0 thought behind it and no engagement with what is actually happening with your job? Why is eyes being gone a good thing? Business can be good or bad, I think just having a job that requires a lot of double weaving in the burst window isn't necessarily a sign of whether or not that job is or isn't fun. Not saying current dragoon is perfect, but instead of trying to do something to make it more engaging, they just made it a "smash buttons on CD" job. What is fun or engaging about that?
@@hayalmatnu9919 I'll be real, I don't really care for "having an mmo", I only play FF because, well, it is a final fantasy game, and I love final fantasy games. I don't think I'll ever unsub just because of that, but they are truly pushing me at this point. I am still excited to see what ultimates DT will have and I want to prog them, but outside of that, it's safe to say this is no longer a game I enjoy nearly as much as I used to back in stormblood and to some extent shadowbringers.
To me "busy = good" because I like pressing a lot of buttons. I personally like when this game feels more like playing a rhythm game than a tactical strategy game. I get that's not everyone's cup of tea, but it's what I like. Ideally there's a good mix of both across all of the jobs so people can play what they prefer. I agree it's a shame they're streamlining it as much as they are for people who want to use their brain more
BLM here, spot on with the description lol its true every 10 levels you have to change your rotation and strategy, constantly having to learn. when you get it right though, man does it feel good to just absolutely melt enemies HP.
iv been playing on and off for years on k/m and had a really hard time with some classes due to muscle memory from other games. To many buttons for combos evn with my mouse it was just difficult to manage. With this controler video i feel like i will be able to adapt more easily.
As soon I started the video I skipped to Reaper to see if you also thought it doesn’t feel right until 90 and I was not disappointed. It’s the only job that suffers like that. It feels like trash at anything 80 or lower.
The thing that is holding me from getting back into the game is the fact you cannot create a new character on the server you want if congested. This to me is madness, I'd happily pay... queue for months, whatever it would take, so long as I would be eventually allowed to create it, but nope... because we have the whole migration thing, you can create it on a different server than aether your way to the server you want. Well this does not work if you want to spend time with friends while also waiting on dungeons and whatnot, because you cannot queue up if you are not on your own server. This is so damn stupid and I do not understand why they do not do it like ANY OTHER mmo out there. Create a character and if the server is congested, just wait for a space to free up. It is not damn rocket science (also queuing to log in already exists so what is the F*** problem???)
You can absolutely queue for anything if you’re visiting another server. You can also pay to permanently server transfer later when the world you want is no longer congested. Only thing you can’t really do when server traveling is use your retainers
Hey an, that is an awesome video! Enjoyed every second :D Really helpful overview and of course cosidering some biased moments :) But who is not biased in the life :D
Yeah because of how synching works, getting BIS for Tea or any of the older ultimates will be so small it's not even worth it, your damage is so high that sometimes you'll want to hold your damage to push the phase, and the dmg is so low that you trivialize many mechanics. You'll see this is DSR and TOP when Dawntrail comes out. That's great that Tea has sims, i've been progging ucob myself but a lot of them require the whole party there unforuntetely but I use them when I can, I mean I really don't count simulators as cheating as it's not a 3rd party tool, ur just skipping to a certain part of the fight youj can do over and over. you can try to make the arguement that raids are suppose to be a staminia test and this cuts down this down as you'll be raiding less, but w/e saves you time i say as long as it's not splatoon.
Really like this one. As a new-ish DRG main, I started the game in Endwalker and became a DRG because of Final Fantasy IV and IX nostalgia it was super fun to hear these and there's some things I obviously very much agreed and then some where I disagreed. While I lack a lot of experience on other jobs, DRG is an incredible job. I really do love the GCD structure. It feels good. But I think it also feels a bit dated compared to say Reaper and even Samurai. There's something fundamentally clunky there. Lack of personal defensive is something that hurts my very soul. I also just want them to fix the dot. Don't separate it from the combo. Just increase the duration of the DOT. Seeing it drop always hurts me. I don't have a clear answer what I wish they do for the job, but I think they already confirmed we'll have a real opener which is already one of the biggest improvements that you can have.
