I feel like the thing a lot of people aren’t getting is that there is genuinely valid criticism about sakura’s vocals and the members performances and stuff. Like no one, literally not a single fan that i’ve seen, has disagreed with that base statement. It’s the manner in which this information is being so disproportionately weaponozed against the idols themselves. I really can’t understand how people can’t understand that it’s not about their skills it really about the lack of empathy being showed from people that are clearly bullying them. Like THIS amount of hate is actually gross. Not to mention how their lack of confidence can directly correlate to their persecution of skills, skills they’re probably okay at doing. Or the fact that everyone’s so preachy about mental health until they’re the ones causing the damage. OR the fact that le serafim is getting more hate than literal criminals in the same industry.I know like any hate train this will pass and stuff but I’m so fucking tired of thinly failed destructive criticism (aka bullying from all these mfs) has become so normal….
For me is like this PART 1 Mai - RAIN ON ME Jeemin - DRAMA Jiyoon - EYES NOSE LIPS Koko - IWALY Sarang - MICDROP+SUGARCOAT Jungeun - DRAMA Saebi - PANORAMA PART 2 Mai - FAKE IT Jeemin - ALL PERFORMANCES Jiyoon - I AM THE THE BEST/IF I WERE A BOY Koko - LOVESICK GIRLS/SPICY Sarang - FAKE IT Jungeun - ALL PERFORMANCES Saebi - LOVESICK GIRLS/FAKE IT
ranking that nobody asked for 1. jungeun (obv, main vocal, one of the best dancers & a solid rapper) 2. yuju (solid vocals, solid dance, main rapper) 3. sujung (main dancer, decent vocalist & rapper, amazing choreographer) 4. koko (main dancer, main rapper) 5. jiyoon (main vocal) 6. sarang (all rounder material) 7. juwon (main dancer) 8/9. fuko/gyuri (both specialists in vocals, fuko's vocals are better but gyuri's dance is better) 10. jeemin (specialist in dance but still kind of in the middle of the pack since all the girls are pretty good dancers) 11. saebi (specializes in expressions & sp rather than technical skills) 12. mai (same as saebi)
I quite liked saebi but after watching this vid I think reality hit me saebi never really shinned like in panorama she couldn’t do the singing part but she still got the part bc of expressions? And she relied on the centre part way too much every single time she was always centre if it was available and never tried out rapping or dancing or vocal much
Mai is a very rare case of trying out KPOP after graduating from Japanese high school. Although her skills are not that high yet, it is amazing that she is able to dance and manage her facial expressions like this after coming to Korea for a year as a trainee. I don't think the producers only evaluated her visuals, personality, and attitude.
Well what can we do? The producers always have the final say. Tho it's unfair but the show being rigged is better for me, because if people were to decide the lineup by voting then we can't really be sure if the final lineup would be good. And if you ask what's the point of having the survival show, of course for popularity purposes. maybe a way to promoted the group they wanna debut.
Jiyoon was always meant for debut, prod just had to brainstorm hard how to make the audience love her too - so gave her eyes nose lips. Drama girls were always it! And everyone who was skinny, long and visual! I was worried hell for sarang but she can survive the height difference with a ponytail - esp that it fits her face perfectly!
watch the video and you'll see my point, or i'll break it down in a simpler way here: these girls are culturally diverse so i would like to see them embrace their diversity in their songs rather than seeing people who are not apart of a culture try and emulate their culture for them. make sense, julie?
Honestly the one where you pointed out that many ppl dislike or hate sujung just bcz of her opinion in an individual battle. I appreciate you for voicing it. Sujung is one of my favourites. But when she voiced her opinions about mai. Ik she did that wrong. But it's literally an individual battle. It's clear everyone wants to be better than others. She was not that bad. And after they added the clips of sujung comforting mai. I am thankful to the editors. We know she's not bad. She even helped the teams so much by her ideas, and whenthe judges blamed sujung for taking over the leadership, i lost my mind. Like she didn't do it on purpose. Koko couldn't do it so she just helped her. What's so wrong about it?. After she got eliminated, she accepted it and said good things about every one of them. She deserved better. I hope sujung debuts soon
The end comment about why we shouldnt watch survial shows anymore is sooo true. It hurts more though when its a group that will be temporarily. Oh though hurt the most!!!! I went in this show with a hugh knowledge that it will be evil edit. So when they made Jiyoon "the villian" i really was like okaaayyyyy FAKE 😅
This song had potential. The chorus was AMAZING. Sounded like a Bratz vibe! Styling and MV??? STUNNING. The duration and depth to the song..... Yeahhh not so much. We needed some actual vocal ability to shine through, knowing that all the girlies can sing. This song didn't highlight that AT ALL, it's more like "talk singing" rather than rapping or actual singing. Let's hope there's a complete switch up. Also I've been thinking what would work, and I honestly think HYBE x Geffen should experiment with futuristic concepts and sounds, combined with an R&B sound (since the west loves R&B).
Is downfall in the room with us rn lmao? Yall be saying anything at this point. Easy is lsfm's most successfull album so far charting in bb 100 which is impossible for many idols lol and they managae to stay keep crying...
I think Mai really showed her talent and that full "impact princess" image during Into The New World, and improving even better during Fake it. She took her time but she got there, I believe in the debut she will be 200% better than in the show.
Saebe was amazing in Iwala. Pink suits her. But after other performances I don’t think some theme didn’t suit her. I felt it was always to same moves,eye wink, same expression every performance. But it was very clear they wanted to debut her since beginning.
Jeemin is overrated. Her vocal isn’t great compare other contesters on stage. But cause many support her she debut. Fuko had amazing vocal every stage performance.yet she was left unnoticed. It’s sad. Mai sounds great at the end and looks stunning. She proved her spot.
"Downfall" nope! They're doing just fine. This is just what happens to all the successful women in this industry. Yall did the same to aespa a few years ago! And Ive up until last year! Goodbye
@@xiaorina who said what? Nobody ever denied Aespa’s talent. They were mocked for lipsync, but nobody ever denied their skills. IVE’s Wonyoung and Leeseo were only hated on for that one lipsync performance and yes, because Wonyoung is a successful woman. You cannot show me ONE clip with any of these girls doing THIS bad on stage. Learn what misogyny means before using it as an excuse for unqualified people getting opportunities that others who work 10 times as hard will never get
@@amiboacid7183 calling girls “dozen with a pretty face” is misogynistic and if i need to explain why then you don’t have the constitution to have this discussion. again im not taking anything that comes from ur keyboard seriously lol good night
@@xiaorina then why are you bothering replying? Again, go look up the definition of misogyny. Pointing out somebody got an unfair opportunity over someone else who is more qualified is not magically misogynistic just because the someone in question happens to be a woman LMAO As if I was arguing a boy group should be there instead. As if I didn’t exactly explained to you why it’s a skill issue, and not a “successful women” issue, since I had no problem with TALENTED women getting the recognition they deserve Just say you feel bad for your faves without misusing big words you don’t understand
Honestly Mai deserved her debut! I think they did like Yuju but they liked Mai because they saw potential in her. And remember we don’t see everything behind the scenes.
I just don't think Sarang is ready. Jiyoon, Jungeun, Koko, and Yuju are so talented. Fuko, Mai and Saebi have natural stage presence to be an idol regardless of lacking in other areas. I think Jeemin is being too forced as well, it's kinda making me the least interested in her honestly.
ive kept up with I-land2 but never watched any eps, the only ep i watched was the last one on mnet official tiktok live and once i saw fake it perform i knew almost everyone in that unit was gonna debut
