Hello, how would you compare Katium and the Keron? Can you really feel the difference in strenght and durability? Would you go with Kaitum on a winter Kungsleden? I am thorn between those 2 tents, as a backpacker I am leaning towards Katium though. Cheers!
Heloł Piotr, I have videos on both - you can see the functional differences in those videos. The strength difference you’ll notice in 9mm vs 10mm poles. Thicker fabric you will only notice if it would rip, otherwise no. Keron offers more space inside and one feature I miss on the Kaitum is mesh panels on vents. Those prevent a bit of snowdrift in light winds. Both can be closed off with breathable fabric, that, given enough wind will still let snow through (see my Greenland video). I want to bring a Kaitum 2 to Kungsleden to go “ultralight” and fast one time. I will upgrade the poles and preferably have double poles.
I bought a kajka backpack a few days ago after seeing your review / overview. Currently binging a lot of other videos and gaining a bunch of new information. This video shows some absolute extremes of nature and I can't wait to experience some of it! Are you planning to make more videos? Everything I've seen so far makes me think you'd be a great voice in the outdoor community, but I do understand if this is merely a side project in your life.
Thanks for these words 🙏🏻 hope my video provided you with good info. I try to convey detailed information and remain critical in my reviews. Videos are more of a side project indeed and I haven’t had much time for them recently as I’ve been working on starting up PolarExped.com where I try to help people explore the cold environments. Less extreme than Greenland (most of the time 😇). I do have a few new videos planned for this year showcasing some unique gear.
I have used the jetboil frying pan on this, with the pot support. It worked really better than expected, because I thought it would only heat in the middle, but it distributed the heat really well. Can recommend using the Jetboil Summit Skillet :) In regards to the lack of simmering control on the jetboil flash part, I have not had this experience. Is there different versions of jetboil flash?
Hi Rob, it’s a useful video for the backpack itself, I just bought a 75L version to support my future trips. Can I ask about how tall are you and your waist? The belt I have to pull to the end to fit me (I wearing 29” of Fjallraven pants), the back length adjustment still reasonable ( I’m 175cm hight) Feels the belt is always over sized in Fjallraven backpacks, even my previous Keb52 feels the same 😢
The Keb is quite adjustable indeed but found that it works best for tall people - I’m 196cm. Keb was a bit smaller. The straps will remain quite long indeed.
Wow, this is by far the best Hilleberg tent review video I've seen! Your thoughtful approach to streamlining production and keeping the script focused really shines through. The narration is excellent too-clear and to the point. Fantastic job!
thanks for your work! very nice! how do you think, can you manage an experiment, to cut a little bit the radiator of the pot to make an avaliability to insert a stove closer to the pot for more wind protection and also making it more stable while using? how do you think?
@@OutdoorPrep MSR windburner: Weight Minimum: 432 g Weight packaged: 455 g MSR Reactor Weight (not including gas cylinder) 417g. Jetboil Stash Weight 7.1 oz | 201.282 g do you understand, what i mean?
@@Утконос-г5д there's another factor and that's fuel efficiency. How much can you realistically boil using one gas canister and in what conditions: wind and temperature. Jetboils Stash is great in the summer but when it gets cold and windy I switch to the reactor.
@@OutdoorPrep if the set weights 50% more, what are you talking about fuel efficiency. its ok in Stash. i would rather take one more gas canister and hide from wind than keep more heavy "something that is more fuel efficient"
If you put the pot on top of the stove and open the valve, the gas will collect and you can have a small boom. So light the stove without the pot on top for safer use. Hope this makes sense now Cheers
Hey Rob. Im considering the kaitum tents, but there are quite a bit of bad reviews about the zippers wearing out on the tunnel tents after a couple of weeks. Have you found any problem with the Latium zippers? and are they the same as the Keron one ?
On Hilleberg tents? That’s very unlikely. They use large YKK zippers - the only “problem” is their weight, but that’s the penalty for durability. The tent will last you a lifetime - if cared for properly - which isn’t that hard actually - just keep it clean and store dry. I use the Keron tents in harsh winter conditions and sometimes the snow will freeze on them in which case I’ve pulled quite hard on them in order to break the ice. Never had an issue with a tent zipper.
@@OutdoorPrep alright thanks! When googleling hilleberg tent zipper fail, some 50-60 people have reported it. Thats why Hilleberg suggest cleaning zippers with a toothrbrush after every use
The blogs I found are from over 10 years ago. I’m pretty active in the owners group on FB and have not seen any reports of zipper issues (and people like to complain about the smallest leaks) so surely they would be coming in :) If you’re in a dust place - of course keep the zipper clean. Any zipper would fail when dirty. Just how zippers work :)
Wouldn't say it worked wonders inside a thin synthetic sleeping bag. The red reactor was better than nothing obviously but at 450 grams that's the same weight as a Z-packs sleeping bag. Sea to Summit made some light stuff, especially their Ultra-Sil line seems fair but it should be needless by now to conclude; the weight to gain ratio is unproportionately on the heavy side for this mummy liner.
Yeah totally agree. I have a full sleeping bag that’s just slightly heavier. The liner is just great if you want to keep the sleeping bag clean(er) but then again it would be too heavy for ultra long distances 🤷🏻♂️
Thank you for sharing it!! Do you think they would be good for mukluks? Did you finally made the video about the self made pegs? Thanks and best regards.
I’d say it’s better with a sturdy boot. Not the sole but the top. The straps will otherwise compress your foot. Don’t recall the self made pegs, sorry. I am planning on making snow pegs but that won’t be soon I’m afraid. Thanks for watching Cheers 👋
Nice video. My very favorite trick once I became a closed cellfoam pad user was to buy a full-length pad, then cut the final three squares off which becomes my sitting pad. Bonus, of course, that it folds perfectly right along with the rest of the pad when it is packed (almost as if they were made for each other, lol). And I also bothered to get a cheap grommet maker so I put in 2 grommets on the end of the sitting pad, and two grommets on the end of the truncated pad, and I can use a small string to connect the at night if I want the extra length again. Normally I'm happy with a pad that goes only down to my knees, but if there happens to be a very cold ground, I don't want to drain body heat with a cold contact point, so I take the small bother to connect them again. The final advantage is that buying the regular size pads is usually significantly cheaper than having to buy a separate sit pad. Cheers
Good tent but for smaller people. With that little space for head when laying down, in stronger winds the flapping tent might smack your head around resulting in a bad sleep.
Thanks for the review man. Ended up getting a brand new helags 2 for half price. Saved so much money I decided to buy the mesh inner for it. I have no regrets so far, the tent sleeps cool with the mesh inner even in hot Florida summers. And considering it doesn't get that cold down here I think I should be able to use it as a winter tent with the stock inner. At the price I paid im super happy with my purchase.
Oh wow usually they are not on sale and certainly not half price. Lucky you! So do you think there’s still a difference with full mesh? I have full mesh for red label tents but yellow label is already quite breezy I’d say. Cheers
Four people would never fit comfortably in it, you say at 6:10, but that's nonsense. I've already slept in it with four people, all well-built water polo players, taller than 1.85m. Of course, it doesn't work if you use XL sleeping mats, because then you can only fit three. But if you lay these out on the floor and then lie on them crosswise, nobody lies in the cracks between the mats. It also doesn't work if everyone lies in the same orientation. You have to lie in such a way that one person's head is always next to the other person's feet. Then it works wonderfully.
Head to toe is not my definition of comfort buddy 😅 I’d go as far as say that Keron 4 is comfortable for two people on a winter expedition. I’ve also been in Keron 3 with two people and that’s tight. Cheers 🙏🏻
I also noticed the small problems with the misplaced spring blade on the gas burner, as well as the burrs. For theses sharp edges, all you need is a small file to deburr them. Quick and easy. I don't think this gas stove has been produced since the beginning. Where does current production come from? Keeping costs down may explain the poor finish. Thanks for this "honest video" 😉
Yeah sure you can fix it, but you’re buying a finished product so you shouldn’t have to. They now have a newer model that looks very similar - perhaps they’ve addressed that issue.
@@OutdoorPrep I also hope they ave done it. A question: when you buy an item in this day and age, how many times do you have to modify it, improve it or finish it (as in this case) before you can actually use it? Most of the time, you're buying something that's almost unusable, but for which you've paid the price, and whose defects aren't covered by any kind of warranty. That must be progress 🙂
Thanks for this video. I've had my eyes on a Trangia for a while, to supliment my Jetboil (from 2009) I wasn't sure if I should go with gas or alcohol. But I'm thinking to get both heating systems.
@@OutdoorPrep Could not find any in UK, contacted Hilleberg Europe and arranged to send it in to UK Ultralight Outdoor Gear H.partner retailer. It was last minute decision before my Cape Wrath Trail trip in end of June, not sure if I'll need inner during this "British summer" in Scotland. I kind of prefer Hilleberg yellow inners instead of black mesh. It will be lovely in hot weather.
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Hi Rob, what do you think of the North Face bivy? One of my concern really is about condensation... Not sure the Furturelight would be that good to move the condensation out if it's wet outside...
I was considering it but then seen some videos of it and it doesn’t look all that great. Sure the Futurelight would be great as a fabric, I have a jacket. I ended up with an Exped bivy. It’s very roomy 👌🏼
They don't sell this reactor extreme anymore. They changed the design to include an opening at the footbox. It becomes a knot when closed, and ends up something your feet get to fight with all night.. and feel restricted. You'll also end up rolling over the new buttons on the hood. In general, the new design is more complicated, more expensive, and not as good. Not sure what they were thinking.
I know Hilleberg say it’s 185cm wide inside, but have you measured it? Hilleberg say their Keron 3 with the same central pole length, and the same 105cm height is only 160cm wide. One of them must be wrong.
😅 I started this exact thread in the Hilleberg Owners group recently. You’re correct, one of them is wrong. Hilleberg still claims they’re not wrong though…
@@OutdoorPrep hadn’t realised it was you who started that thread 😂 Would be worth measuring your tent though to compare with the ‘official’ measurement.
I love to carry this bag and I like chest bag mode 19:03 and I want to add some tips if fix only buckles it keep hitting a chest and belly so tighten strap that you mentioned 5:45 to a weist, that make more comfortable
For less money and the same weight, you can get the Fjallraven Abisko Shape 3, a proper 4 season tent that fits 2 persons easily! And the quality is on par with Hilleberg!
I've enjoyed camping my entire life but have never heard of this product until I decided to take up overlanding this year. Haven't even made my first trip out yet. Waiting on delivery of my vehicle from 2800 miles across the country.
