We don’t care because the French players they have a corner kick one of the French players touch the ball with their hands if the referee didn’t see this, it would still be fair😅
The question of greatest of all time is subject to debate and opinion differs among fans. I don't feel just because Lionel Messi won the world cup in Qatar that he is the greatest of all time. Overall compare Lionel Messi record 1-4 in Fifa world cups vs Pele who is 3-1 overall and Pele as a MVP and most revolutionary player and iconic player also has a better resume of world championships then the likes of Mane Garrincha 2-1, Ronaldo from Brazil 2-2, Cristiano Ronaldo 0-5, Diego Maradona 1-3, Zinedine Zidane 1-2, Giovanni Ferrari and Giuseppe Meazza 2-0, Franz Beckenbauer 1-2, Romario 1-0. The question is subject to change over generations, but with all due respect in terms of world titles, skills and ability Pele still has the strongest claim to the title to this very day above all the other contenders and legends in the history of the game. Pele is on a league of his own. Perhaps Lionel Messi can be like Cristiano Ronaldo the greatest players of this generation or a GOTE: Greatest of this era and greatest Barcelona player and surpassed Diego Maradona as the greatest player in Argentina history and Cristiano Ronaldo his contemporary and greatest player in Portugal history the best men's players in the past 15 years since 2008. But overall with all due respect with all the others PELE of BRAZIL who was a revolutionary and iconic player in the history of the game with 3 world cup titles, 1284 goals, 60 titles, and youngest world champion in history at age 17 still carries a strong weight and claim of immortalized claim as the real goat, boat, king of the sport history.
For the national team, the king of football: Pele do Brasil: 60 titles in total. He has more titles and more goals than Cristiano Ronaldo and Josef Bican. The only one I can say who could have scored more goals even without proof was another Brazilian, football tiger Arthur Friedenreich, who played at the beginning of the 20th century and even scored 1300 goals for Brazil. World Cup: 1958, 1968 and 1970 Rocca Cup: 1957 and 1963 South American Military: 1959 Oswaldo Cruz Cup: 1958, 1962 and 1968 Bernardo O'Higgins Cup: 1959 By Santos Club World Cup: 1963 and 1963 Libertadores Cup: 1962 and 1963 South American Cup: 1968 World Cup: 1968 Brazilian Championship: 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965 and 1968 Rio-São Paulo Tournament: 1959, 1963, 1964 and 1966 Campeonato Paulista: 1958, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1964, 1965, 1967, 1968, 1969 and 1973 Mário Echandi Trophy (Costa Rica): 1959 Mexico Pentagonal Tournament: 1959 Tereza Herrera Trophy (Spain): 1959 Valencia Tournament (Spain): 1959 Gialorosso Trophy (Italy): 1960 Paris Tournament (France): 1960 and 1961 Costa Rica Triangular Tournament: 1961 Gadalajara Pentagonal Tournament (Mexico): 1961 Italy Tournament: 1961 Chilean Hexagonal Tournament: 1965 and 1970 Caracas Tournament (Venezuela): 1965 Buenos Aires Quadrangular Tournament (Argentina): 1965 New York Tournament (United States): 1966 Florence Triangular Tournament (Italy): 1967 Amazon Tournament: 1968 Chile Octagonal Tournament: 1968 Buenos Aires Pentagonal Tournament (Argentina): 1968 Cuiabá Tournament: 1969 Guatemala Triangular Tournament: 1970 Kingston Tournament (Jamaica): 1971 Independence Trophy: 1972 By Cosmos: North American Soccer League: 1977 Games and goals: Games: 1,364 Goals: 1284 Games for Santos: 1,116 Goals for Santos: 1,091 Games for the National Team: 113 Goals for the national team (FIFA accounts): 77 Goals for the national team (total): 95 Will you and the media want to tell lies man that Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo have more titles than the king of football? Wait a minute, man. Even so, Pele has 3 World Cups with him. So with all due respect Lionel Messi is not the greatest player of all time. Pele was 3-1 in Fifa world cups and Lionel Messi has a 1-4 Fifa world cup record. Some other big names Ronaldo from Brazil is 2-2 in Fifa world cups, Diego Maradona is 1-3, Zinedine Zidade is 1-2, Giovanni Ferrari and Giuseppe Meazza 2-0, Cristiano Ronaldo is 0-5, Mane Garrincha is 2-1, Romario is 1-0, Franz Beckenbauer 1-2.
@@captainfalconmain6576 Pele has more world titles then Messi. Pele has more goals then Messi. Pele was a younger world champion then Messi. Pele was far more skilled then Messi so was a lot of other players like Ronaldo, Diego Maradona, Mane Garrincha, Romario, Alfredo Di Stefano, Puskas, Ronaldinho Gaucho. Pele is 3-1 in Fifa world cups while Lionel Messi overall is 1-4 overall. There is at least 21 world champions ahead of Lionel Messi who won at least 2 world cups in their careers including MVP's of their national team in their time. Pele still has the strongest claim to the title. Here is where Lionel Messi would really rank among MVP's of the national team and club level. 1. Pele- Brazil 2. Ronaldo- Brazil 3. Mane Garrincha-Brazil 4. Giuseppe Meazza Italy 5. Giovanni Ferrari- Italy 6. Romario- Brazil 7. Lionel Messi Argentina 8. Diego Maradona -Argentina 9. Zinedine Zidane- France 10. Cristiano Ronaldo- Portugal. This is based on 157 years of the game since 1863 to 2024 among all world champion MVP's. Considering there is at least 21 world champions who have more world titles then Messi we only consider MVP's of the national team as those with back to back titles as those who would rank higher then Messi. Cristiano Ronaldo has everything here but a world title but he is made a big enough impact despite not being world champion with Portugal. So really Messi is 7th at best.
@@captainfalconmain6576 I have to dispute the claim for Messi being the goat of the sport as false as Pele was a revolutionary and iconic player and historically speaking Brazil has been the best men's team in the world so they produced players who also won more world titles and been more decisive then Argentina which also lacks less world titles then Italy and Germany. Argentina among the 8 world champion nations only ranks 4th all time. Messi as a world champion for Argentina would only rank 22nd all time given he only won 1 world cup in Qatar. Overall the lack of world titles is a major argument missing for the goat debate. Perhaps he and Cristiano Ronaldo been the best for the 2010 decade, Messi best for Barcelona and Argentina topping Maradona and Cristiano Ronaldo the goat of Portugal. But neither one of them is good enough to dethrone Pele from the 1 position. Yes all fans have preferences and opinions based on taste which is subjective to playing style, but in terms of resume, skills, accomplishments, world titles, impact Pele is the most complete player in the history of the game
@@rogerstephenroth8073pele wasn’t even the best player when he played for his second world cup while messi was 2014 and 2022 he got robbed from the golden ball
FFP designed to only benefit United Arsenal and Liverpool. It’s not Man City who are corrupt , it’s the PL. city won’t get relegated anyway , keep dreaming
It’s true the truth is that Argentina cheated in the finals u might be asking how in start di Maria Divide and the France player just touched him and the ref gave a penalty if u want more 👇🏻
While the world is witnessing the rise of teams with no history or football legacy, such as Manchester City and perhaps one day Tottenham Hotspur, it seems that we will unfortunately soon witness the resounding fall of the most famous English team, the venerable Everton.
There's one thing I need to corect, because the Argentinian press gives off the wrong impression of what the country's feelings on Messi were. Even when his reputation with the national squad was at his lowest point, the average and common man loved him and the people who hated him were a very small minority of the lot, but, and this is important, Argentinian sports press is pretty anti-Argentinian, and also kinda really really dumb, so a lot of it was very against Messi and against Argentina succeeding in sports in general. Makes sense when you consider there's quite a bit of conflict between AFA and a lot of the conglomerates trying to privatize Argentinian football.
