Your videos completely changed my spearfishing for the better. Great work. I have a 105mm gun fitted with 2 14mm bands at 360%. It’s sublime. I wish one day you would test the meandros argo like of guns, I would love to know what you think of them.
Many thanks for this video....very informative! I recently bought a new Pathos 82 pro (closed muzzle, aluminum tube with open guide, D'Angelo I). Factory setup is with an 120cm 6.5mm faceted point shaft and a single 19mm 26cm black pathos band. 1) In your opinion, if I want to keep a single band setup for simplicity and quick reload, which combination of band dia/length & shaft dia/length would you chooce for max speed/highest accuracy/minimum recoil ? I hunt very shallow (hole hunting/shallow ambush) in rocky areas for small/medium white fish mostly so my setup needs to be able for quick max speed shots but also be able handle some shots on rocks/holes without my shaft bending every time... 2) gun seems a bit heavy on hand during ambush...do you think that changing the tube with a carbon one will help me obtain more neutral buoyancy?
I know it’s been a long time and it looks like you don’t post anymore but a tutorial on how to improve a setup like you did with the 95 would be amazing. How to make the bands you used, better shafts etc
Hey, how’s it going?! Been using the Hero storm 95cm lately! Have it paired with a 7mm x 130cm Sigalsub shaft and 2 x 14mm at 330% primeline bands. I’ve been getting off accuracy in some shots and gotten dead center shots in some. Is there some way I can buy from you the same shaft that you have in the storm 95cm? I wanna have the exact same configuration to have perfect accuracy and no shaft drop. “I’m new in Spearfishing so I’m not that of an expert on the configurations”. I’m going to try and pool test the setup that I have to check if there’s something wrong, been shooting pan size snapper from 1lb to 2lb and been missing shot at 3 o 4ft of distance, and that’s actually insane missing that close. I’ve tried shooting barracudas right off my face and missed, shots seem to be off some how! If there’s a way I can buy a couple of those shafts it will be awesome! Here’s my Gmail Puertoricofishingpage@gmail.com , will be nice to have a talk with you! Thanks for the awesome video, I’ve learned a lot from it. 🎉
Thanks for the great videos. Have you experimented with 1 band setups for shorter guns? It could be interesting to see for example how an 85cm performs with different band thickness/stretch choices using a light shaft (e.g. 6.5mm).
Interesting to see these results which will help me with the design of my new self-built wooden gun. Some very accurate shooting there my friend! Great vid!
Hey buddy are you ok? You still weren’t here…What dou think about the 2x16mm small ıd rubber and 8mm 150cm shaft? Maybe rubbers has less power than 3x14,14,5 but is it enough for the penetration to long range.See you again buddy
I think best is not to go over 15mm small ID bands as the contraction of the bands of the thicker material is slow. I use 8mm @ 150cm a lot with 2 x 14.5mm bands. The 3rd band doesn't add much power and better is just to improve your loading technique and go for higher band stretch on 2 x 14.5mm or 2 x 15mm bands. I use this setup for large dogtooth and large YFT with great success. Also remember that a 7.5mm shaft is an excellent option as well. In some cases a 7.5mm shaft will perform better than an 8mm shaft if using 2 bands.
Really good job on the testing! What setup would you recommend for the 105 , using the default 7.5 mm shaft? Two 14.5 mm small ID, or two 16 mm small ID bands (and at what stretch %)? Is it worth changing to a lighter 7 mm shaft (of proper quality) ? Thanks.
A 105 has a lot of band stretch so 2 x 14.5mm small ID at a good stretch will be the best option. 2 x 16mm small ID will probably not have fast enough contraction in the water to take advantage of the 7.5mm shaft. You can check out my video here where I test different shafts with different band setups here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FSK4HkkimXk.htmlfeature=shared
With 120cm band stretch like the Abellan in the video, probably 3 bands 14/14,5 mm would be exceptional with an 8*150 shaft. I’m considering this setup or 2*15 small I’d for 8mm shaft
Fantastic video I would like to ask you about my speargun I have a speargun with a 6,5 mm shaft and 2 14 mm bands can I put a 6, 75 or a 7 mm or I have to change them to 15 mm ? The speargun is wooden and the bands are cressi. From salvimar wich one you suggest ARES or Nightmare ? both in 95 Thanks
Hi Majd, thanks for sharing all this interesting data, key point I have learned from you, 1) No matter what, always test new spearguns or new shafts before going fishing. 2) Test different bands/shafts combination to get the perfect result for your type of fishing. 3) General rule of thumb, gun size 85 to 95 should work great with 7mm/14mm primeline small ID, gun from 105 to 115 should work great with 7to7.5mm/14.5mm primeline small ID. Have you seen the new Salvimar Nightmare which is basically a Salvimar Hero but with 16mm Primiline bands (not sure if they used micro ID or regular ID for the nightmare). Once thing is sure Salvimar has moved over to using Primeline bands.
Wow ... thank you for compiling all that information. 100% accurate! For bands Primeline are very good ... with regards to diameter, I think the small ID bands at around 14 to 15mm are best because it seems that contraction speed in the water of the bands is more important than thickness (to a certain point). It seems that water resistance hurts the thicker bands and thus energy is not transferred properly for light shafts up to 8mm diam. On heavier shafts the band contraction velocity is less and thus thickness of the bands becomes more important for transferring energy. However even for 8.5mm shaft I would still not use anything thicker than 15mm small ID. Of course with roller setups the equation is different as band contraction is different.
@@majdq8 New tests on short rifles would be interesting. For example, an Abellan '65 or 75' with a 7.5 short rod could be an excellent Mediterranean agguato speargun ! As for your incredible albacore , also for shorter guns I suspect that a thicker shaft with proper setup ( maybe 3*14 small id, instead 2*14,5/15 small Id) can improve dramatically performance…. Thanks ! waiting for new great videos !
@@majdq8 Hi Again Majd. Thanks for your feedback. I purchased a Salvimar Nightmare 115. The new Salvimar Nightmare is exactly the same as the Hero. The only difference is the name and the upgraded Primeline bands compared to the Hero. This 115 Nightmare comes stock with a 150mm x 7.5mm shaft and thick 16mm ''Primeline'' bands (I am not sure yet if those stock 16mm bands are micro ID or standard ID). For sure, I am looking to change those tick 16mm bands to one of the following new bands from Salvimar : *Salvimar green Primeline ''HURRICANE'' 14.5mm (Micro ID 1.6mm inner diameter) The compact compound with high hardness is developed to maintain power unchanged after the speargun has been loaded. Recommended for spearfishing with the waiting technique and for those who prefer reactivity and explosiveness. *Salvimar black Primeline ''PRIME'' 14.5mm (Micro ID 1.6mm inner diameter) Formula designed to obtain an optimized elastic modulus that guarantees an excellent ratio between loading effort and power return. This makes the PRIME compound versatile and suitable for all types of fishing. It seems like the green Salvimar ''Huracán'' by Primeline bands are denser than the black Salvimar ''Prime'' by Primeline bands, I think the best fit would be those new green Primeline ''HURRICANE'' 14.5 Micro ID bands and combine that with a new 150mm x 7mm Sigalsub Tahitian HRC shaft, or do you think I should better off with a 7.5mm shaft since the gun is a 115 size? Looking forward to your reply, and thanks again for all the information you share with the spearfishing community.
Hello, first of all, thank you very much for making such useful videos. I need some advice. I have a bleu acid carbon 110 carbon. I want to make a combination using 8mm 140-150 cm shaft and 3x14.6mm 380 small ID. Will it be effective? I would be happy if you share your thoughts on this subject.
So I just got a hero storm 95, and was hoping you could go a little more in depth about your set up with it. Especially the shaft, as mine did not come with one and I'd like to make sure I get a good one
Do you find you have to cut bands after the first few uses? I cut to 360% and loved my gun. It’s now firing a little soft faster about 10 uses. I think the way you handle this is by making longer wishbones and shortening the wishbones. I’ll try that I’m gonna try to get them as short as I can. Thx for vids they are amazing.
greetings... I have a pathos open laser pro 100 cm rifle with factory natural latex tires 2x16mm (black)... now I'm thinking about an upgrade... 2x18mm some progressive lastik rubbers... does it make any sense or is there no improvement? how good are these black factory natural latex rubbers that come original with the pathos rifle anyway? thank you for your answer and opinion! I read on the internet that actually switching from smaller mm rubbers to bigger ones can be actually a downgrade - that the power of the arrow's range will decrease, as well as the accuracy? thanks in advance!
Hey man, you probably get this question a lot but what are your favorite rollers? Looking to get a Pathos Roller Sniper 95 for reef and smaller blue water fish, kind of a do it all gun. What are your favorites?
Hello sir Good day to you . Hope all is okay and fine . You didn't do posting new videos in a very long time hope all is okay . God bless you . Hope you can post again .
Hi Majdq8, hopefully this reaches you soon. I am unable to post on Spearboard as a new user and I dont know who who else to ask besides mario himself thru instagram. But, I am currently working on a personal upgrade/build. Starting off with the Ermes Avatar handle, the "male insertion" piece is about 4mm too long for my barrel+plug. I am unsure of how to trim the plug itself within the barrel because it looks a little different (space for possible ballasting?). I could cut/file down the insert to my desired length but I would most likely compromise the first o-ring slot. As you would know, there are 2 o-ring slots and I only need the 2nd one since it is for a 26mm id barrel. I would just be sacrificing future builds if I were to buy a different barrel and choose to use the same handle for whatever reason. Would this have any effect on the structure of the handle in any way under pressure of band load of a conventional 120 gun? Thanks in advance
Hello Majd, I installed this Ermes Pathos Sear kit on a D'angelo 2, but still on occasion experience a very tough trigger pull. I may have to sell the gun if it cannot shoot crisply. Any thoughts? 100cm Pathos, two 14mm small ID bands at 360% stretch, shooting the original Pathos spear. Thanks for any insight!
This kit is very old and although it improves things a lot, it is still a friction trigger. There was a Double Roller trigger for the Pathos D2 from Ermessub, but I really don't recommend it as the tolerances are just too small for it to work properly. There is a new Avatar handle from Ermes with full Doublle Roller trigger. Handle follows correct design principles and pushes recoil into palm, and has the latest version of the silky smooth Double Roller Trigger .... also is a perfect match for the Pathos tube and so is a very simple switch out.
@@majdq8 thanks for the response Majd, always appreciate your insight. Good idea, I'll consider the Avatar. On another gun, i do have the Ermes DR for Pathos D2, and also found the same thing--many times it's hard to pull the trigger at double band 360% stretch. Much better with single band.
Salam brother, and thank you for all these great videos. So much real life testing! I just saw the video of RA about tri-cut vs. pencil spear tips. What is your experience as you shoot to foam targets and RA uses ballistic gel. Not sure which target material is closer to a Kingfish (Khanat) fish body for comparing different shafts? No idea. I thought a tri-cut penetrates better - especially can break bones or cartilage better (my my logics in physics) - but looks it is not what it seem like. Amazing topic. Thanks for your kind feedback brother. Regards from Panama ><)))*>
I always prefer pencil point tips as most of the time I hunt in areas where my shaft might hit rock or coral. I did not find any significant loss of accuracy for tri-cut tips ... but I rarely use them and prefer just to keep my pencil tips very sharp. I can see how tri-cut can have better penetration on fish, but really if you have a good setup speargun ... the shaft will be going so fast that it will easily go through any fish ... even through thick spines of big fish.
obrigado pelo test. a canaleta da arma é excelente porem na hora do disparo a arma treme muito perdendo a precisão o mergulhador tem que aplicar muita força em mãos para segurar coice da arma. 1 trocar os tamanhos da liga 2 refazer este cabeço na roller. a empunhadura parece ser excelente. existe armas mais baratas que ao todo apresentam qualidade bem superior e com custo beneficio melhor. ex sigal sub. thanks for the test. the channel of the weapon is excellent, but when shooting the weapon shakes a lot, losing precision, the diver has to apply a lot of strength in his hands to hold the weapon's recoil. 1 change garter sizes 2 remake this bollard on the roller. the grip seems to be excellent. there are cheaper weapons that in all have much higher quality and with a better cost benefit. ex sigal sub in which the weapon is only to be desired in the channel but in the rest it surpasses the weapon.
