that is the plural of octopus :)

If he's not talking about that then I doubt it. Some people just experience nothingness. Which is no experience at all. What you might imagine it feels like to not exist.

@@lachousalle31 you mean you're not conscious at all like in deep sleep.

Hi there! I forwarded this question to John, who provided the following answer: This is a very good question! Aside from the artifacts that were recovered and the general 17th Century appearance of the wreck, there is specific archival and physical evidence that led us to believe that this wreck was undoubtedly the Golden Fleece. What we learned from the wreck, matched the detailed historical record perfectly. We were drawn to the exact location of the site, from a magnetometer survey we performed. After the battle in 1687, the British returned to the site a few weeks later to locate any remaining pirates, and to recover the cannons, and anchors they might have left behind. These were of significant value and removed, meaning that would not find these items on the wreck, which we ultimately did not, and it would be much harder to locate the wreck utilizing a magnetometer survey. We could not expect anything large to show up on the mag survey, but we did get several small hits we identified upon diving the hits as firelocks, which looked like pipes. The stocks, and steel trigger components were mostly lost to time, but we had the barrels and brass butt plates remaining. When Captain, later Sir, William Phips went looking for the wreck of the Spanish Galleon Concepción, in 1687, it was only months after the sinking of the Golden Fleece, he noted in the log of his ship the James and Mary, that he had visited the site of the recent battle, and found the wreck of the Golden Fleece in 24 feet of water. He could look down into the water and see firelocks laying on the main deck of the wreck, "where the pirates had dropped them". He also noted that if he did not find the Concepción, he planned to return to the pirate wreck, and salvage what he could before returning home. Of course Phips did find Concepción, and never returned to Samaná. What we found more than 300 years later, in 24 feet of water, on top of the wreckage, was a half dozen or so, firelocks as described by Phips in 1687. From the Taylor Manuscript at the National Library of Jamaica, there is a first person drawing of the battle, made by Englishman John Taylor and included in his manuscript on Colonial life. He claimed to have witnessed the battle. This can easily be found in late historian David Buisseret’s book, Jamaica in 1687, along with analysis of the drawing and Taylor’s personal notes on the battle. The drawing depicts the area’s geographical features that we can easily identify today as Cayo Vigia, Pigeon Island, and Punta Gorda. John Taylor also places all of the participant ships, as well as the Golden Fleece on his drawing, Where we eventually located the wreck, is exactly where Taylor drew it in 1687. The wreck is adjacent to the island of Cayo Vigia, and in the heavily overgrown area above the wreck we easily located dozens of cannon balls, some of them marked with the English Broad Arrow, identifying them as English cannon balls. As the wreck was excavated, more cannon balls were found in the water, as well as some tools of the trade for pirates, including a broadax, pistols, and a sword. At the end of the two day battle, the British retreated, and the Golden Fleece suddenly exploded and caught fire. On the wreck, we found the wooden components of the hull on the periphery of the wreck to be charred, as one might expect. I hope this answers your question. JC

Thank you for your comment-that sounds exciting. Best wishes for some good sightings on your dive!

@@TheDivingmuseum Thank you. As you are well aware, Guadalupe is closed from any shark activity at the moment :(( BUT im keeping up to date with Horizon charters on facebook. i'm ment to going August 2023.

On the Beebe side of family? I am relation of some sort, trying to figure it out. All I know is my Grandmother's maiden name was Helen Beebe. She gave me several children's books he had written a long time ago that I never paid much attention to until recently with the Titan tragedy. So I've started researching him. Such an exciting life he lived!!!

Charles William Beebe had no children and was an only child as far as I could find in all my research. Now I'm not saying you are lying. I was told he was my great grandfather but when I researched his biography it says nothing about having children with the two women he married. If you can find anything to the contrary I would love to hear about it. Respectfully David Beebe

It was something I was told by my father whilst growing up. But he was very good at 'exaggerating' so I wouldn't be at all surprised if it were none sense.

I've done some research into the Beebe name and read that all persons with this last name can be connected to one man that came to the states back in 1650. I always take this kind of info with a grain of salt but find it all very interesting to read about. If you ever get the time it's very cool to follow. The name is very rare and goes back a long way.

im friends with art (mick) his son he is my friends neighbor

Thank you for your comment! It really is incredible work they do to discover and share this history. Thank you for helping to share it as well.

Thank you for your comment! We're glad you enjoyed the presentation. It really is some amazing history.

Did he ever answer you back?