probably the worst thing about this fight is that it's completely optional. it's custimary to expect a genocide route for a big fangame, but it's not easy to bring that feeling of "what the fuck am i even doing with my life" that the original had. uty's geno felt obligatory. even this one kinda felt necessary for that full undertale experience. however, with this fight, they managed to do it. a genocide battle that truly feels pointless - because it IS. you don't need to fight them. they're skippable, and yet you choose to go out of your way to kill them
this is fucked. I know this might be silly but joke coded characters dealing with this type of stuff is so heart breaking they just wanna be doobious and silly they dont deserve this 😭
i hate how much this battle hurts to play crossbones/sans doesnt actually die so they needed someone to fill in the gap for papyrus and they chose these two
It’s a pity they didn’t redo the attack with Garia’s teeth and they are just as happy with this attack as before and other Attacks where they have the old facial expression
When I played the game I thought you had to push harry 2 or 3 times to make him completely fall but when he immediately fell I wanted to reset so badly
Pushing Larry off of the cliff made me sick to my stomach. I absolutely love these two characters to death and just seeing "Push" as an act, I already knew what was going to happen. Something I find concerning regarding the push act, in fact, is that you kill Larry by ACTING of all things. The implications for this are very scary-
I think the game is trying to say we’re not doing this to get stronger or whatever, we’re doing it because we want to, we CAN. We wanted to kill him, even if we don’t gain anything from it, after the fight it says we gained one extra kill, so that means we only got Larry’s EXP.
What makes this encounter hit hard is that its completely optional, you can bypass it and you can even turn back and the ruthless route doesn't get abandoned. You actively HAVE to go out of your way to kill them, and the game WILL make you feel bad about it.
@@akfbqoabepajsoaIf you just turn back once you can go forward again to fight them. Unless you go all the way to the festival, in which case it is aborted
What terrifies me most of this boss is simply the fact you don’t kill them via attacking sorta You damage them and push Larry off the cliff and then kill Harry after Harry griefs despite his attitude to Larry They truly do care and like each other, but the fact you use “act” to do the finale blow adds impact
My favorite part about this fight has to be how fast it can be done, if you know what you're doing it can be beat in about five turns, yet it still doesn't lose the impact because of how sudden the push is. I also love how you can't spare Harry after the fact, as if he doesn't want to go on after losing Larry.
Man, there's plenty of games where you can do way worse things than this, but there's something about going so far out of your way to murder these two that feels really messed up.
I do really like how many fan games are portraying the genocide run as terrifying for the monsters, seeing them actively run and be scared of you makes it all the more horrible that you are doing it
if you spare them from what i remember they just run past you after saying your just standing there when you back off it doesnt abandon the route, just makes you go back a few steps before the trigger for the dialogue and im pretty sure they dont have extra dialogue for backing off and then going back towards them
In Undertale and Undertale Yellow, it's only after third boss you can't justify it by "Self-defense". Here we're in SECOND location and we know we cannot justify our actions.
@@abdillahahmad7025 Good point actually. I want to say Papyrus was the last boss of the second location and third location is right after him, but since these guys are basically the last thing before Crossbones who serves the same role as original Papyrus, I feel like I would be wrong, and you do have a point, as I said.
As much as I like this fight and the whole vibe it gives, it annoys me that they just can’t die normally for some reason, you see the health bar stop for no reason (unless there is a reason said in game that I’ve missed)
@@akfbqoabepajsoait isn't that random. Its just multiplied by a lot. If you want to hit small then you deal around 100000 dmg but if you do perfect hit then its around 300000
i played the pacifist run as my first playthrough and got attached to harry and larry because of how silly they were but in the genocide route i was about to cry when i pushed off larry
