I think it is a great sports flyer and does some 3d, ok. The Dynam Pitts Python was better at most 3d moves for sure. It's also worth noting that I'm not a 3d pilot. I prefer to fly scale aerobatics.
This is a complicated way to have to set up this radio for a simple AUX channel to work. Turnigy has dropped the ball on this system. No excuse for having to do this with any radio.
Maybe go 2S on the stock setup, rather than changing everything to 4S. But all depends on how you use the Phoenix. I mostly slope, so rarely use the motor. Sometimes thermal/glide from the field, so only use the motor to climb. But if you fly like a plane, rather than a glider, then a 4s setup similar to the Excalibur would have it rocketing.
@@xxMADxMICKxx i live in the middle of nc tobacco country so its all flat fields out here and i like to fly it like a pylon racer and use all the beans. Im looking for a cheap 2836 1000-1500kv setup with a 50-60a esc. Just gotta find the right setup that will fit.
Michael this is a great video, I am buying one tonight! Very well done but next video check your volume output! We can not hear you very well. Side note: I really like how you give Andrew Newton a shout and I'm sure he will do the same for you that is so cool! All of us are learning from you both, you two are the best! Thank you!
Crashed my AR Wing Pro with a reversed stabiliser. It's actually LESS stressful without a stabiliser, I've noticed. It's just one more thing to go wrong. I have 2 planes with stabiliser set up, and I don't even dare to touch anything on them. It can be very tricky to make sure nothing is reversed, manual or stabilised.
Good afternoon friend Michael, could you please help me in relation to the mix of elevons and the dual rates that you configured on your FT22? Thank you
G'day Fernando, this build was a long time ago for me and a couple of radios too. I don't recall the details for the configuration and dual rates, but I was sure there is video on the FliteTest site that talks about the setup. Turns out their FT22 elevon mixing vid is not there, but try this one - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cKqwTQlAWa8.html hope it helps
How much weight did you add to get the CG descent? I corkscrewed mine in from a programming error setting up the stabilizer and when I rebuilt it I used a leopard 3536 and pushed the battery to the outer firewall and still needed 3.5oz to trim it.
Hi Jonathan, no extra weight added to mine. Just a 4s 2200 60-120c heavy-duty battery all the way forward and away went. The C of G is a long way back, but still within the range that it doesn't feel tail heavy. If i remember next time i have it down, I'll remeasure the C of G for you. Cheers Michael
That was awesome! I fly wings now I am going to buy the ASW 28 or the phoenix, not sure which, I like long wingspan graceful You guys are great, thank you!
That’s what I’m thinking but there’s a slope where I live it’s above the beach maybe 100 feet and there’s always great lift there and the railing goes down a walkway and behind the walkway there is grass about 100 yards wide and that grass runs about 300 yards parallel to the rail from stopping people from falling down the hillside and the wind comes into the hillside from a little bit of an angle but I used to fly there years ago and we would fly 6 foot sailplanes like the wander and things like that great place to fly but you have to be pretty sharp on your landings but now with ailerons I thought maybe the Phoenix 2000 with a 6 foot wingspan might be better for that application. But I think you’re right if I only pick one for right now for the next several months I think I’d rather go with the longer wingspan so probably it would be the Phoenix 2400 because the ASW’s are a little questionable unless it’s FMS and they’re very expensive It’s not like flying on a hillside it’s a little more confined and that’s why I think an 8 foot wingspan might be a little too much and then it would have to have flaps to slow it down when you come up over the rail flying parallel to the rail and then drop down on the grass
@@DanielCValot I have really enjoyed the 1600 at the slope, but have also flown the ASW28 there too, nothing questionable about quality, but a bit of a pain putting togther and pulling apart to load in the car. A good friend has had the 1600, 2000 and 2400 and says the 2400 is a great slope plane. We can't have them all, I guess. But if you are getting just one for now, In my opinion the 2000 would be a great choice. It would be managable off the slope and coming in for tight landings as well as being good off the flat trying to catch thermals. Either way you go, any of the Lanyu/Volantex planes are fantastic !
Thanks for commenting back I thought I had replied to you the other day and I guess I did not and I just saw that, I apologize We could have a long discussion about this, I started flying a lot of thermals at a very large heart here about 12 miles from where I live and they fly thermals so for that the 2400 would be best but if I fly into Bluff above the beach the hillside only about 100 feet high but it’s got a great win coming pretty much straight off of the ocean onto the bluff maybe about a 45° angle and I used to fly there many years ago with a 6 foot wingspan floater with a fair dihedral and it flew excellent a lot of us flew there it was a big group It sounds like the Phoenix well might be a better choice than a SW 28 but the 28 has a T tail which the elevator is off the ground higher and won’t catch tall grass as much on the landing, what do you think? I just got into Flying, again about six months ago and it’s great, especially what’s going on in the world it’s a great getaway lol The point I really need to consider is when you mentioned about landing, where the plane is going to have a landing zone is going to be our strong determining factor and if that big park I was telling you it can land on freshly mowed lawn that they cut every other week it’s perfect but the slow is a little tricky to land on Do you have to fly along the rail on the hillside below and you come up over the rail and then quickly turn to straight and the plane back out parallel with the rail and the land, I have about a 200 yard landing song that’s about maybe 200 feet wide and for a 2 m playing it’s very easy but the 2400 question liability I wouldn’t want to cartwheel that plane, I can cart wheel wing and it just bounces around and then flies again but I will know that will not be the case with a conventional plane much over if it’s got a very big wingspan the only concern would be catching the wingtip as I try to level it out as I land when flying at the beach I have to give a little more thought to this and watch the guys at the big park fly the thermals, I was out there yesterday but they were finished by the time I got there so I’ll go again and watch them fly the thermals because that I have not done and it looks like a lot of fun so for that I would definitely want the 2400 and then paint it maybe a very dark gray with a bright orange tail and wing tips Thanks for the information you wrote because it helping me narrow down the plane because wings around four you can’t rest for a moment because the minute you take your I have that wing it’s gone!!!!! I’ll keep you posted when I get ready to purchase how are you, probably another month or two I’m just finished building one of my wings now Daniel
so you had better roll control with spoilerons than with flaperons? did you happen to mix your elevator in to keep a higher angle of attack when on spoilerons or are you just managing it by yourself on the stick? Thanks.
G'day Jeferson, Roll control was fine either way, but my goal was to slow the plane for landings. Deflecting the ailerons up (spoilerons) seemed to be far more effective than deflecting them down (flaperons) . I didn't mix any elevator. The effect of the spoileron was to lift the nose of the plane, dropping the tail which gave it a higher angle of attack. Worked well for me.
@@xxMADxMICKxx Thanks! I have this problem, a plane with high lift characteristics and a short space to land it on, and I have to 'nail it' right there. I think I'm gonna go with spoilerons then! Seems the way to bring it down fast without adding extra horizontal speed.
Yeah a little mucking about with the tail, but that's it really. Maybe not the most plug and play I've had, but nowhere near the hardest. Nice flying sport plane too
No, it is a PNF (Plug and Fly) you need to use your own radio transmitter and install your own receiver and batteries. If you don't have these things already, I would suggest this is NOT a good plane for you to start in the hobby.
I just got one and the fuselage is damaged, the manufacturer refuses to honor any quality of their product. They will not ship any parts to replace damaged parts from their factory so if it arrives damaged you're stuck with it
I just got one and the fuselage is damaged, the manufacturer refuses to honor any quality of their product. They will not ship any parts to replace damaged parts from their factory so if it arrives damaged you're stuck with it
That CG at 95 is so funny. My dw 800 wing has cg around 145. Batt is 300mAh 2s. I added 80mm wingtip trim tabs for downforce, otherwise elev. trim is zero. it's flying like a big moth. Same thing on my DW 1000 wing. Hope to advance my flying skills someday and move that CG fwd like recommended. Your sloping was very skillful! Thanks for sharing. -Jason in Portland Oregon.
I am surprised, are you saying you have the cg 145mm from the leading edge? Usually the further back it is the more 'tail heavy ' and the harder to fly. I so still enjoy flying my small DW wing. I habe it set up with a 2s 850. cheers Michael
Did you fly it at the instruction recommended 80mm cg? For mine to balance there I feel like it needs a lead brick in the nose. If balances perfectly on the spar with the PNP electronics and a 4s 2200 but if it really needs to balance at 80mm I feel like it will be too heavy to fly.
G'day Jonathan, Yeah it is probably more like 85-90mm. Very close to the spar. But I fly it in stock form with a 4s 2200 60c which weight 252g. I do find it hard to land smoothly, so would be interested to try a little weight in the nose to bring the CG forward a little more.
I realize this is a very old video, but I just bought an excalibur from a friend. When you set the spoilerons, do you remember what you did with the elevator mix? It seems the spoilerons would push the plane down - so add a bit of up in the elevator? Thanks in advance!
I like this plane. The nose sacrifices itself and avoids great damage. The engine covers stabilize the profile-smart. Such mistakes happen - nobody is perfect! Don't worry. i#m looking for the next flight!
I think if I was to build another one I would change it in a few places but considering the crashes it has had, it has survived well! It will fly well next time for sure!
@@xxMADxMICKxx Perfect- I do the same. I've created a "Instruction sheet" for rebuilt the "Libelle". On this I notice all "weak points". Some weeks ago the swan will attak the flying boat.He hit the wing with his wings and the struts (3mm round wood) split! There was also a hole on the wing! Every repair track has its story ...
Congratulation to building this plane. Great location to fly. It's so bad to see the crash. First you had a problem at 3:59, than it looks normal, the second Problem at 4:02. Both times violent reaction. The first looks like "elevator down,the second elevator up? I think a Problem with the Receiver (circuit board inside) - loose connection or the Antenna. The elevator Ruder looks well before the Crash. I hope you can Repair it! Good luck, I want to see it fly again!
Thank you for the kind words. And I think you are right, the receiver I used was not an original frSky one. I had used it before, but it was a few years ago and it had been sitting around since. Not a good decision to use it, in the end. I will repair it this week and try again on the weekend hopefully. Cheers Michael
@@xxMADxMICKxx I use a turnigy TGY-i6 Radio,Original Receiver is the HK-T6A-V2. But i use now Flysky Receiver's FS-R6B, or for the "Libelle" the 6CH FS-iA6B with the Flysky FS-CVT01 Voltage Collection Module.Never I had problems. But-i bought an FS2A-4CH 2,4G AFHDS 2A 4CH PWM Mini Receiver 2 Month#s ago. Binding well,ch 2-4 o.k.Only Ch1 doesn't work.Think my next Radio will be a Flysky! Hope this brings you further! Ups-I've seen Andrew Newton here-nice!
@@xxMADxMICKxx I'm happy to hear this. I had a look at Google Maps to see the Distance. It"s near 1000 km. Enough to set Complete Germany from North to South inside. But i don't know the Center of the Flood and the Peripherie of the bad Wheater. For you and your Friends "stay heathly",
Thank you for the Information about the location.(Goggle Maps says nihing about Australia Beach 40W). At the "Crash scene" i had a look in front of the wave-breaking zone outside, there are not many seahorses. I think the wind will be much stronger at the dune because he will compressed. You can test it easy if you will fly higher and more to the sea. I think in front of the "compressed "Windzone the Speed will more less! Why are no Kiter's or Windsurfer on this Beach. I think it will be perfect. Are there Shark's or Conservationists ? Have Fun..Martin
Hi Martin, We do get a few hang gliders flying from that site often, but when a couple came up to check the conditions, they decided it was too windy for them to fly safely. Actually, the beach is called 13th Beach, Barwon Heads and runs for about 6 or 7 km. Along 13th beach (and the others along the coast) there are markers to indicate which section you are at. Probably not something they have on google maps, but you can see some cool information about wild life from the area here www.barwoncoast.com.au/sites/default/files/fauna_08-13.pdf Cheers Michael
@@xxMADxMICKxx Hello Michael, i meant other kiters. The one with the wakeboard on the feet's and the "bar"in the Hand's. I spent some time for checking the location. I think it's not so easy for you to slope, cause with the street in the back and fearful People with Dogs on the beach. It looks "very green" there. I remember Australia with "Crocodile Dundee-Paul Hoogan". In the Baas street there are Whale's. At the lake constanz too....1930 from Dornier! (Wal) I think wales are harmfull to went Windsurfing. If there are Whales-there is no shark-or? Think the problem is the Park ranger and the Whalesaver! Spend years ago time at the Red Sea at Safaga. There where a lot of relaxing Waterturtles, i need a lot of attention at jibes. Cheers Martin
@@xxMADxMICKxx Hello Michael, i meant other kiters. The one with the wakeboard on the feet's and the "bar"in the Hand's. I spent some time for checking the location. I think it's not so easy for you to slope, cause with the street in the back and fearful People with Dogs on the beach. It looks "very green" there. I remember Australia with "Crocodile Dundee-Paul Hoogan". In the Baas street there are Whale's. At the lake constanz too....1930 from Dornier! (Wal) I think wales are harmfull to went Windsurfing. If there are Whales-there is no shark-or? Think the problem is the Park ranger and the Whalesaver! Cheers Martin
@@Bastlmartin HAHA, I don't think there are many whales there. I have never seen any. As for kite boarders, I have not seen many of them either. Maybe it is not so popular here. Along this scetion there are a lot of people surfing though. Most of the time it is a great place to slope, there is enough room to fly and land without worrying too much about the road. IO would much rather a big mountain to slope form though! I won't be greedy though, it is still a fun place.
@@xxMADxMICKxx Hello Michael, the Information about the Whales is written down at the sheet from the link,you send me.On my favorite Windsurfspot at Hindeloopen (Netherland) you can't see the Sky about many Kitesurfer's kite's.Have a look for "Makkum". I can't understand why kite and Windsufring isn't popular at your coast. Let's open a windsurfing school!
Nice to watch - It looks lihe 3 Beaufort. The best what you can do is to slope. For Windsufring it's to less Wind. Nice Area. We have on time 3 Degrees, Rain and windy wetter! What is 40W Do you mean 11 knots?
I am excited to share and very happy you enjoyed it. The "40w" is a beach marker for the location. It was actually 23 knots! Which is almost too much wind!
G'day Salvatore, you might be right. Of course , we blame Andrew for this. ;) He is very popular on RU-vid so anytime he does a review, the plane seems to sell out! Cheers Michael
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Hello, greetings !! Very cool flight !! Could you help me? How did you adjust the CG, only with the 4S battery all forward, according to the video, this? Or did you add some extra weight to the plane’s nose?
G'day Leao, I only ran it with the Turnigy Heavy Duty 4s 2200 60c onboard (250g), but I think after a few flights I'd like it with a bit more nose weight. I will stick some lead under the front cowl. Cheers Michael
@@xxMADxMICKxx Great!!! Thanks for the feedback !!! You are putting your battery right in front, or in the middle, on the wooden part with the clamp that they send. Tomorrow my 4S of 2200 arrives, and I will test it !!! Thanks !!!
@@leaobicalho3245 I put it in as far in the front as it will go (there is plastic pocket) and the tab on the front of the canopy holds the battery in place
@@xxMADxMICKxx Hi Michael, thank you very much !! I did what you said !! First, my 3S battery only has 170 grams, so I put the difference (250gr-170g) of 80 grams on the front, attached to the engine grille !! Only with this change I already managed to have a very stable and pleasant flight !! I was really sad, because flying with heavy weight is very difficult, and I only fly for 3 months, I almost crashed the plane !! Today I did 20 minutes of flight with the correct CG, and thank God everything went wonderfully well !! Thank you very much !!!
I have the small version of this sonic wing and it's a little weapon in the air, especially on 4S. Never got around to getting the big one, but I have always wanted to try one. Next time I see one on sale, I might just grab it for funzies. Good video and nice to see more content from you. 😊👍
Thanks for the comment Vas. IMO this is the best flying wing available at the moment. A few of the other guys have had the mini AR Wing, but it tended to tip stall a lot. I think all the guys I fly with that have this plane, have at least 2, one guy has 4! Currently on sale from Aussie warehouse even cheaper than I picked it up for! Sonicmodell AR Wing 900mm Wingspan EPP FPV Flywing RC Airplane PNP banggood.app.link/ztAEAiynWcb
Hi Michael-you stopped Water flying? Will the cessna alive? I built my own Waterplane with folding wings. Look for "Libelle 2020",please! Original: -Dornier Libelle 1921-
G'day! i have taken the floats off the Cessna for now and fly it from the ground occasional. Most of my flying buddies dont have any planes to fly from the water so i don't bother much. It is always better to fly with a few friends. i will look up your Libelle. Cheers Michael
Like me! I had to much risk's on the landing's with the Cessna. With the gear I will fly sometimes on the Runway on the deaktivated Airbase called "Leipheim". (The ME 262 had there the first flight, the ME 321 and the ME323 was built and tested there.) Where is your Friend with the Catalina? I prefer Waterflying to relax and enjoy the nature. The "Libelle" is very safe. Now i have stopped Waterflying, because the Lake is half closed with Ice. I'm afraid to freeze solid on the Ice, in case of a problem! Have fun !
@@xxMADxMICKxx Hello, why had Mark demounted the Catalina. I think, the Flöats Outside will be the Problem at flötsam or waves? Please ask him because im Interestet at the Catalina's Problem! With Mark you have lost the "Rescue" system-if your Cessna had problems-bad!
@@Bastlmartin it was a couple of years back I think. From memory he was never really satisfied with the way it flew in the air. But in the end there was an accident on landing that caused the ESCs to get wet and short circuit. After that Mark use the main wing without the motors and tail (I think) on a fuselage of his ow design to slope soar! It was quite a good slope plane in the end.
On these build together tails I like to do ca hinges on both control surfaces before assembly because having to do the elevator after a tail separates would be a huge pain.
Just got one for Christmas and was wondering if you can fly it on a 3s 2200mah as well as 4s. I have both but just wanted to know if I could get more flight time because of this. Thanks
G'day Tom. I haven't tried a 3s yet. But it has plenty of power on 4s, I did think.... Maybe a 3s with enough weight to keep the CG in the right spot might be ok for flights without any challenging aerobatics
Sounds like you have a lot off pleasure flying this extra 300 ^^ The last landing was... May be whells r to small on this grasses runway . Whith witch cam r u zooming ? Or is it done in post production ? Cheers
Hi Patrice, It is always a good laugh at the field with these guys! The zooming is all done post production. I just use the olf GoPro. The quality is not great, but it is just RC planes hahaha.
