In my understanding God does view all sin the same. The wages of sin is death and we will all die in this life. (in accordance with the idea of Original Sin). The moment you are born into this world you are stained with the blight of imperfection. It is we humans that see sins differently because "worse" sins have a greater impact on this physical world around us. I do think as Christians we should vote for someone who is "net good". Don't get me wrong, Hitler's policy of exterminating population "imperfections" should have been an immediate disqualifier for him. You correctly point out that this one policy immediately disqualifies him as someone who should lead a country. However, this one such policy immediately puts him in the box of "net bad". Now you can say this is an argument of semantics, but I would say it is the difference between quickly arriving to the decision of a single-issue vote vs continuing to evaluate candidates as a whole. In your example of Hitler, I think the greatest sin (for us still on earth) was allowing someone to get enough power to kill all those innocents in the first place. Anyone position with that much power will inevitably lead people away from God. The German people in their desperation for economic growth wanted a king and rejected God in the process. Trump is the candidate I cannot trust to peacefully leave office after 4 years. (See Jan 6) He is also the candidate that has proven to enjoy erroding our institutions for his own gain. (e.g. all his cabinet members that resigned in protest of illegal acts they were ordered to do). In similar fashion, the greatest mistake that we can make as the electorate is to assume making a king to enforce a policy is somehow the lesser of two evils. God is our King regardless of whether or not abortion is available in this country. I'm not convinced that abortion is the greatest evil we can have on this earth and saying that this issue alone is enough to elect what you yourself deem is a man of questionable character, and an unknown Christian tells me that you are being led by your obsession with this issue and not the Holy Spirit. The fight against abortion is ongoing. There will be other candidates that will fight abortion for you.
Can a Christian vote for a man who's entire life story is filled with the sin of pride? The idea that there is a "Christian" candidate this election is laughable.
Kamala Harris prosecuted David Daelidin when he tried to exposed that Planned Parenthood was selling baby body parts. I could never vote for someone that would persecute someone for trying to tell the truth.
I find your question prejudicual, abortion is more then someone having sex and getting pregnant and decided to have an abortion. How about a baby who died inside a woman or someone other difficulties. A party with a good social programme to help the less fortunate.
So - a serial adulterer with five children by three different wives - whom he was cheating on with existing wives at the time - who is a CONVICTED felon and who has been found guilty of sexual harassment is a better vote than support Vice President Harris? that's biblical hypocrisy is what it is. it means your worldview is dangerously myopic and should have been left behind in the 20th or even 19th century. This video is absolutely absurd. How about using the 2024 test versus a hyperbole test from 164 years ago? You'd rather vote for a liar who will lie about the smallest details and tell us how much he admires Vladimir Putin or Kim Jung Un? Commentaries like yours are why Christians are losing power and influence in America.
"Can a Christian vote for Kamala Harris?" Yes. All my relatives ae Christian and most of them are voting Harris. Also, thank you, Mr. Klusenworf, for your arbitrary definition of who a real Christian is. I'll ask them is they agree.
You mean taking care of your neighbor, feeding the poor, etc. are not biblical, but hate is? Hmmm. I'd for her policies over Trump any day of the week, that man is Traitor and not Christian. He's a cult leader.
My neighbor was in his pageants and he hit on her when she was 17. In the dressing rooms with GIRLS! If this was someone you knew...you would be livid with this type of person.
No way voting for a candiate guilty of rape. Also taking Sick children's money from his charity...which was shut down. The list goes on. He is a false God/prophet to the evangelicals...which is how I grew up. Disgusting.
Yes Christians can vote for Kamela. There is no thing that when you turn up to vote the returning officer asks "are you a Christian?" and if you reply '"yes I am" you get issued a already filled in ballot with Trump nominated as the pick. How about another question? Can a Christian vote for a a person who has been married for three times and had an affair with a porn star while his wife was expecting their child? Can a Christian vote for a man who is on tape boasting of how he assaults young women? Can a Christian vote for a man who has been found responsible by a jury of his peers of assaulting a woman? Can a Christian vote for a man whose record is one of lying and showing no attachment to the truth. Can a Christian vote for a man who has done nothing for the poor and rules only for the rich. My understanding of Christians is the conduct of the Christian Democratic parties in Europe. They set minimum wages so families would be free of want. Encouraged decent working conditions and championed unions. Set up schools and hospitals to help their community. They were not consumed with greed
How can a Christian NOT vote for Harris and Walz? I know that abortion appears to be a difficult issue, but doesn't Jewish teaching say that breath begins with the first life? Genisis 2:7. And Jesus made it clear he came to fulfil the law. Matthew 5:17. And he said nothing about abortion. Trump is the very embodiment of The Father Of Lies. John 8:44. But if you would rather vote for the Angry Liar than the Joyful Warrior, then feel free to condemn Walz - who actually ensured that the poor in his community were fed. But I ask you which candidate embodies the true message of Jesus? I give you: Matthew 5:43. Luke 14:12-14. John 11: 33-35 Ad nauseum... But vote for The Liar, if you think that will soothe your conscience over one biblical interpretation of when life begins...
@@vivienclogger if you are Christian, you are deeply flawed in your thinking. Tell me how Harris, who cheated with a married man, who lies constantly, who supports killing innocent human beings, who own husband cheated on HIS wife, got the woman pregnant, then had an abortion, she is without sin? Why do you think she's so pro abortion? we vote for the platforms now, we don't vote for the people anymore. If you vote for Harris, you vote for men competing against women in sports, an open border that is rife with sex trafficking, child sex trafficking, pro-abortion past birth, no parental consent for abortions or child gender treatment, soft on crime. If you are a Christian, God's very first rule was Thou Shalt Not Kill. Trump is no Saint. Neither is your gal.
Read Numbers chapter 5 over the jealousy offering and Psalms chapter 137 and your perspective might change about what God might think. I was raised Assembly of God and then went to Baptist churches as an adult. For the first time I am thinking about going to a Presbyterian church because I am tired of MAGA preachers and churches
@@independenttexan3505 good grief. Then go vote pro-abortion but don't stand near me and call yourself a Christian, because I'll call you out. You are searching for a preacher who will tell you what you want to hear. Not what you should hear.
@@nancya7886 I don't care if you call me out or think I am not a Christian. You will never be my judge, and God commands us not to judge others. I believe in separation of church and state because one of the main reasons the colonists fled Europe was religious persecution. They were not being persecuted by Muslims, Hindus, ect... but from other "Christians". I am not going to force my religious beliefs on others. I don't think it is right for a 12 year old girl or any girl to have a rapist's baby because they need to follow someone's religion. Same thing when a woman's life/health is in jeopardy. Notice your dear leader is softening his stance on abortion as well because he knows it is hurting him politically.
@@independenttexan3505 Question, are you pro-abortion for only rape/incest/ life of the mother and anti-abortion for all other abortion? You would vote to make all other abortion illegal?
@@gharris Nazis, slave owners, and pro-aborts all believe that some humans are "less than" according to whatever differences they deem matter. Slave owners think it's skin color that give a human value, Nazis think religion/culture, and pro-aborts believe it is age. The reality is that age doesn't give us value, being human gives us value. The other 3 groups believe they can dehumanize certain groups of people according to their own arbitrary differences. That is why abortion and the holocaust are similar.
@nancya7886 Thank you for your thorough answer. I worry those who do not subscribe to the Bible would argue that it was arbitrary to deem a life at conception of equal human value to you or I.
@@gharris Perhaps I'm confused. I'm not sure what modifiers are being applied... beginning of human life to the end. Where is that being modified? And how is it arbitrary?
Why are you voting for a party that will take away my right to vote? (your right to vote also). Why are you voting for a party that has brainwashed Christians into performing the same evil deeds as their leader?
If the advice is to look to the party that Alliance best with Christian values I have to ask where in the Bible are we allowed to compromise our values and lower what God has said? the Christian should not compromise at all. I don't see Donald Trump as being 100% anti-abortion and that disqualifies him.
Trump really let down the pro-life movement. Apparently, he's OK with "less murder." That's not a principled stance; it's trying to negotiate for people to accept a little bit of murder and telling everyone to be satisfied with it.
@@echoingerudite205 at least he isnt going to advance abortion. Your girl definitely will, she says so! She hasn't met an abortion she hasn't liked yet. You vote these days for the principles of the party, not the individual. Biden has been a vegetable for years , we've seen the decline, and the machine behind him keeps running. Harris is far left. If you are a far lefty then vote for her, but don't stand by me and then say you are a Christian, ill call you out. A Christian wouldn't take parental consent away from parents for abortions and gender dysmorphia treatments. They also wouldn't push more abortion agendas and let men beat up women in their sports.
Are you saying Harris and the policies she supports holds more Christian value than Trump and his policies? If so, please provide them so we can discuss.
Great talk! Very clear explanation. My entire catholic family and several "Christian" friends will be voting pro-abortion this fall across the board. Very hard to be around the hypocrisy and not call them out as they grab hands and "pray" around a table before a meal.
banning abortion is one of the worst possible ways to be anti-abortion (also, the Republican party removed all the pro-life language from their platform this year, so I don't think they're even united on that front anymore).
@@LincolnDWard Banning slavery is one of the worst possible ways of being anti-slavery. Same argument, different human beings getting mistreated for perceived random differences that would deem them less valuable. Seemed to work out for slaves in the end....that others stood their ground even when the slave owners and the majority of society said banning slavery wouldn't work. Evil flourishes when good men do nothing. Now, sadly, we vote for the party that we know won't advance abortion, and we continue the fight. We know that there isn't an abortion that Kamala or Waltz have met that they didn't like.
Kings = Leaders, presidents, dictators and so forth. Dan 2:21 ... he (God) removes kings, and sets up kings ... (not the voters) Whoever God puts into office, be it Trump, Kamala or other will be more corrupt and evil then what you have now. God will move man to give a godless people of a godless country what it deserves. Your next president will be your curse.
I see that the sanctity of life should be upheld by pro-lifers according to adherents of the Bible BUT I do not see why protests should be held in secular society at abortion clinics when according to the Bible pagans are "enemies of God (Romans 5:10) and that outside from being justified by faith sinners are going to hell anyway (James 2:11), in other words why tell sinners not to sin if they're going to sin anyway? Aren't they going to sin even more either way? Telling them not to isn't going to make them sin any less, as far as I see it. It's kind of like when you tell someone not to push button or cut a wire, but not like telling them not to put their hand on a hot stove or play with fire, I believe. Shall we sin so that grace may abound springs to mind as a counter argument but that is directed towards Christian disciples, however just to be clear while it may sound wrong to practically say "I don't care what non-Christians do with their offspring" my point is still is God even paying attention to what children of the devil do or would all those things eventually be covered by the blood and nailed to the tree when the individual comes to repentance, wouldn't the work of the Holy Ghost and reconciliation be the main focus of the Church and not ideological and political avenues?
@@drevnikocur54 True, I guess one can have different definitions of nature. For me it's what a human is programmed to do without cultural input, but I see your point
Scott i hope you see this! Have you ever considered trying to contact the GOP or the trump campaign and offer to train them on how to discuss the issue of abortion in relation to politics? You would be of such value to trump if you helped him craft an answer. Kamala is surely going to pound on this issue. Also, has any politician EVER contacted you for assistance?