Loving the video just kegged this last Tuesday. This beer just gets better and better over the weeks while drinking, hops are lovely. Glad you enjoyed one of my favs. Just poured a pint after left in keg for 2 weeks. Looking at getting in to all grain brewing what brew systems would you recommend. May ask where did you get the glasses from? Love them. Happy Brewing Gareth
That glass was from a local festival several years ago but a lot of places sell that style as a ‘craft master’ the one in the video is a smaller 2/3rds size. Homebrew system depends a lot on budget and how you want to approach it, personally I think a basic kettle and brew in the bag approach is a great starting point as it’s fairly cheap and you can build up to a bigger 3 vessel system or get an all in one and use the kettle as a sparge water heater still if you end up progressing
What’s your view on the PET kegs that seem to be gaining popularity? Based on your findings, do you think the PET kegs are good way of oxidising many litres of good beer?
I haven’t used them but they should perform much better than the bottles for a few reasons surface to volume ratio, thicker material and oxygen barrier being the main ones, I imagine in the long term stainless kegs would still be superior as far as oxygen ingress goes so it depends how long you are likely to have beer in a keg to an extent. I believe kegland themselves quote shelf life up to 6 months in oxebar kegs. Personally I will stick with SS
Hey Dude inspired by you I have set up my beer engine , check valve and secondary regulator, bought from Jim of Jim's beer kit, currently drinking a Timothy Taylor Landlord tribute. BIAB I used a jug to move the wort around during mashing hit all of my numbers, Cheers the Furnace Green Brewer
PET has advantages of being lightweight, being able to bounce and safer if you make bottle bombs with over carbonation. I used recycled tonic bottles when I first started home brewing but I changed to glass after splitting a batch and doing taste tests over a few months. Results were as in your video. I just use one PET bottle per batch to monitor how it carbonates up.
Yep the lightweight and durability were the reason I used them a lot for beermail and competitions but quality of the end product must come first now! 🍻
Do you think vacum sealing the pet bottles would help? I think Dr hans did that in his experiment. Thank you for that, I'll start participating in homebrew competitions late this year so it's very helpful, cheers!
I’m sure it must help in some way, guess it depends on how effective an oxygen barrier the vacuum bag is but any kind of additional barrier will be better than nothing
Really informative video Rich, plus the Pod last evening [30-9-24] was again highly informative, quality experiment with the different elements, big difference between the PET and glass bottles, am sure many fellow home brewers will be shocked with the findings...I am, PET bottles are very soon to be shown their way into the recycling...Well played bud...
If using pet bottles once you’ve filled the bottle squeeze the sides of the bottle until the liquid reaches the brim then screw the cap on. I bottle condition my beers and doing this over using glass bottles has seen an enormous improvement in my beer. The pet bottles basically don’t oxidise at all when there is virtually no oxygen in the head space. IPAs still smell and taste great, you can tell they’re not oxidised because of the colour as well. Trust me it works! I saw this first done by Gash on “The home brew network” on RU-vid
@@mattcampbell1846 these were all capped on foam using a counter pressure filler so there is no oxygen in the headspace, the changes seen are from oxygen ingress through the bottle material which is why the glass did not have the same issue when packaging in the same way.
In theory they should be much better as they are supposed to have better oxygen barrier properties, there is also a higher surface to volume ratio than the smaller bottles which would reduce the speed of absorption if any oxygen is in fact getting through
Thanks for the very informative video! I've always thought that glass was the better choice taste-wise, but didn't quite know why. So now I have an excuse to throw away my old PET beer bottles and get some space back!
Hi Dude, I have 3 x 19 and 2 x 5 litre SS kegs as well just ordered some more seals for the 19 litre keep up the posts all very informative and fun. Cheers
@@XkannsenX yes most likely thicker walls, different grade PET and maybe oxygen scavengers incorporated. Plus massive difference in surface to volume ratio
Good question, not tested personally but most of those products would have thicker plastic, different grade PET and/or oxygen scavengers incorporated to make them perform much better at blocking o2 ingress that said for long term term storage I imagine stainless kegs still outperform them
I bottle condition my batches and have found two things to help a lot with oxygen. First is to use a spunding valve mid way through fermentation and set to a low psi, like 5 to 7. This will help keep out oxygen if you cold crash, but even if you don't crash, it provides just enough foaming when you add sugar to filled bottles so that you can cap on foam. Second thing is a dedicated beer fridge, so that after the two weeks at room temp to carbonate, you store the entire batch cold until you drink it.
@@garyballared2077 yes I havent used them personally but I think 'oxebar' is a reference to the superior barrier properties of the PET that they use so in theory they should perform much better than the smaller bottles, the surface area to volume ratio would also be of benefit
You could try using mylar bags to vacuum seal the PET bottles, with an oxygen absorber to extend the life. That would add cost and hassle, but it may be useful if you want to avoid sending glass bottles in the post.
That looks pretty similar to my own house best bitter, though I don't use crystal malt at all. Grist in mine is 88% pale malt, 12% biscuit - both from a local malting company here in Virginia. Mine also has 42 IBUs of whatever hop I decide to use, the default is Goldings, but I have had some cracking results with Cascade, El Dorado, Galaxy, and Challenger. I've not brewed it with Fuggles yet though, but have some in the fridge...perhaps it is time.
@@DudesBrews Glad it’s easy! I have a tap cooler, but have the itap coming in the mail. The tap cooler works but when you pull out the stopper there’s always dead head space which I have to trick to get foam (tapping on the side of the bottle with a spoon works).
I wonder if you did flameout hops instead of 80C whirlpool it might have dropped clear without the finings? Seems to me cold break forming plus hops is what makes haze. Maybe protein rest plus 90min boil might have made it even clearer. Finings don't bother me but it's a shame it can't be shared with vegan friends.
I use Brausol which is a vegan friendly fining agent, some of those factors may well have helped it clear naturally but there are so many variables that play into haziness and its stability that its hard to pin it down for a recipe that hasn’t been brewed multiple times
Hey Tricky Quick question for you, what is your dry hopping technique? Every time I dry hop through hop bong or just through the top 14-16c the pellets just drop straight to the bottom. Pressure ranging from no pressure to around 5psi Any suggestions to why this could be happening?
Not sure why that is happening exactly, I have never used a hop bong so no insight on that, personally I release pressure and pop the lid or use the hop port on the snub nose to add pellets, this tends to release a lot of co2 out of suspension which seems to hold the pellets on the surface. If I put it back under full pressure this will tend to send the pellets down to the bottom of the fv so I will usually purge gently and then add no more than 3-5 psi top pressure, normally some of the pellets still sink but when I come back to it after a while the pellets have broken up and are mostly floating on top of the beer. Hope that helps!
Hi, when pressure fermenting do you let the yeast get going for a few days before starting to let the pressure build? I've been setting my pressure from the point I pitch and been having really strong sulphur smell and taste, wondering if the yeast is stressed.
I set the spunding valve from the start and let it build naturally, no issues with lasting sulphur for me that way but most lager yeasts will still be a bit stinky during the fermentation regardless of pressure. Its not an issue at all with Novalager as it doesn’t produce any sulphur
Excellent and informative video as always. Looks like a cracking beer as well. Have you noticed much difference when fermenting NovaLager at higher temperatures under pressure?
I haven’t tried it any higher than 14/15 under pressure, its so quick anyway I am not sure I would want to but I think other people have had good results 👍🏻🍻
Great guide, great recipe, I love beers like this. I agree with your use of noble hops hot side and modern “ipa hops” in the WP and boil. Actually I just did mine with a light WP of sterling and saphir and then the DH w citra mosaic. I think both ways are great methods. But I like the noble WP so I can split the wort into two fermenters and have the other half be an Italian pils with a little noble DH.
@@marklpaulick thanks, I love that idea of splitting the batch and sticking with noble hops in the whirlpool especially with some saphir in the mix 👌🏻🍻
Thanks a lot for posting this great recipe. You've inspired me for the next brew. I'm guessing I can sub in some other aromatic WP and dry hops, and it'll be my first try at the style. Cheers! Just follow normal novalager guidance for temp if not using pressure?
Great stuff. I do find Nova lager leaves a full body even though it attenuates well. I have one I packaged in keg about 3 weeks ago that I have to chew before swallowing 😂
Thanks, Great inspirational video. I often brew a traditional Belgian blond or tripel but then add some new world hops at the whirlpool, I've have some great results. Not yet tried dry hopping a Belgian beer yet, maybe next time. Thanks again and keep up the great videos.
Love the hop choices. Im still yet to be convinced by this style. After brewing this, are you more in favour of this version of IPL? IPL in general seems neither here nor there. Im currently brewing a DNEIPA and am tempted to go for this next… but more tempted towards a full on WC IPA or just an old school proper Czech Pilsner… You may have convinced me…
