Thanks so much luv. This is good for me. This is a video I needed instructions very Coochum and good you keep showing me how cos repetition is IMPORTANT for learning this. So I have been trained CBT. Nobody told me yhis. So I stalled at the lights luckily on my CBT so not rear ended, just terrible weather dark raining freezing January and ABC needs to be taught to newbies. This gives 5 out of 5 Coochums and love from Liverpool ❤
The two full day MSF course I think is an archaic format. It really should be longer with more time spent on fundamentals. Doing two 2-3 hour sessions per week over the course of a month or so I think would improve skills rententiok and allow instructors to spend more time on students that are completely new to riding.
I am so glad i got the 2024 390 (this 3rd july) before getting any bigger bike. I HAVE had those moments when i gave it too much throttle in a bit muddy patch of road or while leaning and the rear started to spin but luckily all the safety features have saved me every single time and I am VERY glad to learn about those mistakes this way rather than falling or anything worse....
Best way never to stall bike ,or engine turns off on you raise your RPM when taking off while you release clutch very slowly it works all the time depending on bike you could raise to 3000rpm or slightly above the call it preload your engine
Same thing with cars, you must learn how to keep your car on an incline using the deadzone so you take off without staling or rolling back after you release the brake. In really big inclines you hold the handbrake with the button pressed and car to deadzone and you just release the handbrake to go. Same applies to bikes as well and pretty much all the clutch using machines.
This was a good video! Went and did a jumpstart (clutch familiarity) at Harley before my mfa class and the first thing the guy say is the clutch is your friend which meant in my head i needed to hold it I was stalling the bike several times and it was cutting off a lot I was either holding the clutch tight or letting it go all the way out and it was a mess! This makes a lot sense. Also I was having an issue witch switching gears I didn’t know if I was in 12345 or 6🤦🏾♀️ finding neutral was hard as well. I already feel like I need a digital screen😅 I like how your bike has the 1 for gear 1 on your bike. This was a helpful video! My MfA class is Oct 11-13th 😬
So before I got a motorcycle that when you pulled in the clutch all the way the friction zone was immediate when you let it out I had this problem, and wondered why the levers had the extra space to where you could pull all the way in. why doesn’t the lever pull just stop just pasted the end of the friction zone?
Stupid RU-vid doesn't properly notify of replies to comments anymore, but I can answer your question. The excess take-up in the lever is to account for slop. As the cable gets used, it stretches. You need that additional space in order to fully disengage the clutch until you have the opportunity to adjust the take-up at the cable head (and for a really worn out cable, at the clutch itself, as well). Check your maintenance manual for how much excess take-up you're supposed to have, so you can adjust it correctly.
@@annastebelskyj580 first thank you for the reply. I see your point and understand it. The problem for me is the first motorcycle I ever bought, The friction zone was at the very end of the lever pull. So until I learned you didn’t have to pull the clutch in all the way lol it was like a count of one 1000 two 1000 three 1000 until I actually got going. all I’m saying is it would be nice if adjustable levers adjusted both ways. Anyway, again thank you for the reply. I appreciate it.
Hell yeah friend. This is fucking helpful. Man ppl say if I can drive a stick shift car I can drive a bike I can say they are different lol. But keep them coming friend
You are so fucking awesome boss. Damn you just made me feel so much more comfortable with stalling. Taking my msf test tomorrow and stalling was my biggest issue. Appreciate you boss !!!
bro teaching more than my MSF course, which was so stressful and i cried. They didnt tell us none of this and my clutch was crusty and kept sticking but they wouldn't let me exchange the bike saying I just have to learn that particular friction zone. Thank u for making this video 😭
Bruhhhh I had my first course today and nothing was said about any of this... Stalled the bike a lot I was scares I'd never get it and they would fail me. I literly have the 2nd class tomorrow morning and I'm so scared.... Did you pass the course??
This was the best advice that I got regarding how to not stall the bike out of all the other instructors and their videos. Thank you ❤️... I will be trying this next time.
My thing is sometimes I feel like the engine revs way to high before it grabs . Can be frustrating on a right turn or your on a hill I freak out . And sometimes it will stall just because I think about too much at the tike
Just find the friction zone then apply throttle, you'll be able to tell when you're around the friction zone when the rpms drop. Practice to gauge where the zone begins and ends, and apply throttle in the middle. Or like he says, if you can tell precisely when you're about to move and you don't see anything that'll stop you, keep it in the friction zone and bring the revs up a little, holding it around 2500-3000 rpm and hold on your rear brake. As you're getting ready to move, slowly release the rear brake in a smooth manner
This is really helpful! Please show me how to take off while stopping on a hill and want to go further up without stalling the engine. Thank you so much!!
Did stop once in second and it took me forever to figure out why I kept stalling (no gear indicator). I was so embarassed that I did that and EVERYONE was watching as I struggled.
Finding the friction zone is much easier when you use two fingers. The other fingers act as a stopper to pulling the clutch lever so far that you have a super high amount of deadzone before the bike takes off. Makes it less of a guessing game it’s clutch fully activated when stopped in gear and I start to let that out and the slightest movement is going to cause the bike to move. That’s what I do.🤷🏼♂️
If you don't need the whole range why do they make the throw so large? Why not just limit the range of the clutch with a short throw lever? That way you can squeeze all the way and not have it be such a large motion?
thats a good question ngl maybe so there's more room for error in shifting and stuff? Its the same thing in a car, like 40% of the clutch pedal's travel is literally nothing
I have a question. When u change gear can you just go from first gear to third gear or 4th gear down to 1st girl instantly? And after first gear going to second gear, is the friction zone still needed or can u just go release it right away like in a car?
A. You can of you hold the clutch and just step it down till 1, but it's better to practice engine braking. B. it is less sensitive if that's what you're asking.
This was a solid and informative video, the way you explained everything was super cohesive and easy to understand! I wasn’t having too much issue with stalling, but more so being VERY slow with taking off from stopped position. Going to practice with your guidance today 🙏🏼
All good advice. A couple of things I can add... 1) Practice in the car park: starting in 1st, quickly moving to second gear/20 mph, then slowing again and stopping, selecting gear back to 1st, completely stopped with feet down and ready to start again. Repeat. This to me the real traffic pattern practice routine - you need to get to second quickly. 2) Not a fan of holding the rear brake with light throttle except for starting on hills. Since many inexperienced riders will start burning out clutches before gaining mastery of this 3) Don't panic if a bug gets in your helmet - they absolutely will. Be sure to use hazard lights (if you need to) then always pull over, select neutral, remove and inspect helmet completely before starting again - those bugs tend to linger inside;
As someone with severe adhd who struggles with verbal instruction, this was SO incredible helpful. Everyone just kept saying "find the friction zone" but not really demonstrating what that looks like. You are out here doing God's work lol
@@cleanmirror8279 Verbal instruction = explaining without a physical example, just talking. She's saying that it's difficult for her to understand something if there is no image or something to demonstrate what they mean, she isn't labelling herself lmao
Congrats on your awesome bike man, the mt10 is one of the best naked literbikes out there and that engine is a peach to ride. Enjoy it alot and be careful and safe with it.
"I don't wanna crash" it's not a matter of crashing or not, it's a matter of when. As someone who got into a bad motorcycle accident I am glad you are wearing gear, that shit saved my fucking life. Ride safe king.
