I found simply using a watering can and letting the water sit for a bit the tar will turn a grey color and scrape right up. We tried sanding first and that would've taken forever with the amount of flooring we had to do. Plus the mess 😝 seriously yall sometimes it's the simplest things 🤷🏼♀️ We restored 2500sqft of original hardwood floor in a 1900's building with a watering can and scraper ❤
I used a buffer like that in the Navy everyday! I'm sure it will all come back to me very easily! I just have to see if I can find one around here because I have this very issue. I have been trying to scrape and I just cannot do this floor by myself scraping like that. I need to try to rent one of these somewhere.
The lining felt and linoleum were laid with linoleum paste. Wet the the linoleum backing as pull the top of top of the linoleum. Wet the linoleum backing with soapy water. Wait about an hour and a half the water melt the dark linoleum paste. It will scrape right up with a three inch putty knife.
Before name calling, making you look like an ass, realize that not all flooring contains asbestos. Had mine tested in my 1933 house and zero asbestos in the tiles or the mastic
@stephanebrouard3041 same here! Black tar in our 1889 mansion remodeled in the 1990s. Got our test back with 0% asbestos fibers in the tar and 0% asbestos fibers in the tile itself. All you have to do is get it tested. It all depends on what decade it was done and what your test results conclude. Color doesn't always mean asbestos. Just get it tested and you'll know! Easy peasy!
I know this is 7 yrs old.. since then each MFG has made this process much much easier. I will suggest if you, like me, still have one of these units, prepare a cpl of 1" pieces of duct tape, especially if you have purchased a smaller Dia. line. Once you have finished your first wrap and clip into the retention slot...Tape that line down. don't count on that retention clip to hold that line like you'd think.... Don't ask me how I know
I have this very issue going on right now! Your video gives me hope, thank you! My floor guy isn't as optimistic however. My fingers are crossed that he shows up with this very piece of equipment tomorrow.
Hi, Since you tried this a year ago, I'm wondering how it went. Did the tar paper come off without grinding down too much of the wood? Thank you in advance.
So much wrong in this video and HIGHLY ILLEGAL, 99% of felt back linoleum and cutback adhesive has huge amounts of asbestos in them. This guy just contaminated this whole house including the ventilation system, all of those fibers are now forever in this house and cannot be removed, everyone that lives in this house will forever be at a high risk of cancer and lung disease. PLEASE, If you see black mastic immediately stop and have the floor and glue tested for asbestos, it's not something to play around with. At the very minimum, this person should have had everything soaked down with water and the area taped off to prevent cross contamination of the house.
For everyone saying this is definitely asbestos… not necessarily. I found the same stuff in a house this old, and thinking it was asbestos, had it tested. It contained 0% asbestos. So just make sure you test, then proceed accordingly.
You are either lying, extreamly lucky or the Lab that was used was wrong, 99% of this black mastic glue and felt back tile contained asbestose all the way into the 80s.
@@FreedomFactory3D JUST GET IT TESTED THEN!! FFS this is the whole reason I wrote the comment, all of you people posting are just trying to be finger waging karens. I know full well that most of the stuff has asbestos, but not all of it does. I wrote in my original post to get it tested.
Yup. We have this flooring in our house and had a piece of it tested. 0% asbestos. So asbestos-free flooring of this type does exist. The stuff is IMPOSSIBLE to get off, though. We've tried everything. Heat gun? Laughable. Scouring pads? Nope.
That is what we in the flooring industry refer to as "cutback" that contains asbestos 99% of the time. I would never attempt this, after him saying the lino was from 1960, it is definitely ASBESTOS cutback! He should be wearing full PPE gear including cover alls, shoe covers, respirator as well as eye and ear protectors. You should have the entire area surrounding this masked off air tight with sheet plastic to keep from debris spreading throughout home. I feel bad for people that try to save money doing this while exposing yourself and your family to ASBESTOS! NEXT TIME CALL A PRO AND TEST THE GLUE! BLACK GLUE IS CUTBACK AND ALMOST ALWAYS CONTAINS ASBESTOS!
This is EXACTLY what I needed! Trying to figure out how to restore a beautiful floor (not sure what it's made of) that was covered by this and two layers of carpet.
Please do not sand or grind black tar mastic, you'll have asbestos particles in the air! It needs to come up wet. There are low VOC, pro grade solvents for this
I use them all the time and never had a callback. Two years later had to pull one toilet and reinstall it. I reused the Santi seal and it is still in use today.
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I used a walk behind floor stripper and took the mastic layer down as far as I could get then I sprayed the floors with a 1 vinagor to 4 water and let it sit for 15 minutes then take the walk behind stripper and it comes up very easily. I tried the method this guy is using and it was a much longer process and I could see it scratching the floor up something terrible
I took up carpet, all kinds of black dust, looks like soot. Sweepable. I found out there is linoleum underneath. I will clean up the dust with caution. Is it glue, or??
May be mastic with Asbestos, so be careful. Home test it. If it’s negative, remove however works best. If it’s positive, keep wet while you remove or just seal/ prime and ad new floor over. Research it!!
First, you can get asbestos test kits at Home Depot and send them off. Results come pretty quickly. Test the linoleum AND a sample of the mastic. If the lino has asbestos, you'll want to consider either sealing and covering it or having a professional remediation. If the lino is clean but the mastic has asbestos, you have several options- seal it or remove it WET. Lots of videos on the subject.
I wonder how many more GENIUS Asbestos commentators there'll be on this video....Gess! Yes, it's true, but man, some hero folks just beat the horse way after it was dead....
Unfortunately my eyes cannot see in that low of a micron range. If this were the case, specialized microscopes would not be required for testing. Can you please point out at which point in time the floating fibers are visible? Thank you in advance for your consideration. @@ysgramorssoupspoon
The tar glue has asbestos in it, I just had mine tested and abated. The only good deal you having going for you is it has between 5% to 7% asbestos in it.
@Jessica James Someone replaced the original hardwood floors in my house with parquet sized solid wood tiles, glued to the concrete subfloor with that black tar mastic. It's 3/4" thick in some areas- definitely a DIY fail. Had it tested and it is the asbestos kind so it must come up wet. Estimates for remediation are between $12k and $23k. (Gasp!) Spoke to EPA, it can be safely removed if it's removed WET. Absolutely DO NOT try to grind or sand it!!! Found a low VOC chemical that's getting it done, but it's labor intensive and takes awhile. One room at a time, I'm getting it off. Kitchen is done, working on dining room. Have to keep pets out of the room while I do it. Just make sure you take it up WET. Shop vac and lined buckets help. 🙂
@@julietmurphy8637 thanks for the reply. did you get it tested before taking out the old flooring? we were remodeling our home and we took out carpet and flooring in the kitchen take hard tar mastic and under that it had thin hardwood vinyl with more mastic under that. i didn’t think it was asbestos till i went online. now i’m depressed and scare😞
@@leosotelo5119 Yes, I got it tested. I bought kits at home depot, put a sample in the container, and mailed it to the lab with payment. Results come back pretty quickly. I am using Sentinel SC-170 to take it up wet. You can find it online and look up youtube videos. Don't be scared, just be smart. And make sure whatever you're wearing to do it can be thrown away.
No it's actually factual and will seriously harm anyone in contact with these fibers. This is 100% asbestos cutback, just watching this makes me cringe, been doing floors 20 years and anytime u see cutback, don't touch it until tested. ESPECIALLY SANDING IS THE WORST WAY TO REMOVE, THE DUST FIBERS ARE WHAT KILL YOU. THIS SHOULD ALL BE ABATED AND REMOVED WHILE WET!
How long did this take? And what did you use? I have a house built in 1840 with cheap flooring glued onto the original hardwood flooring... Trying to bring the hardwood floor back. Any and all help would be appreciated
@@300zxdriver I also had a black tar like this tested by an abatement company. No % shown in the tar or the vinyl. Probably done between the 50s-70s. Testing is the only way to know.
Wow cant believe I've been in the flooring trade for 34 years now but anyway....Rest in peace to the occupants of this home and welcome to the world of mesothelioma and asbestosis.
Foam gasket is very good. Before lowering your toilet to the floor, I would put a washer and nut on each of the two bolts and cinch them down first to the flange.
I removed my black tar paper with a wallpaper steamer. I think it was safer. Your tool make a lot of dust (and asbestos), not really good for your lungs.
Do not sand black mastic floor adhesive. It has 15% to 85% asbestos. The fibers cannot be seen and can float in the air in a still room for 72 hrs. Cover it with new flooring or mitigate.
