Propane has no oxygen molecule which maskes oxidation of the steel impossible. H20 on the other hand does.when you fill your 1lb always turn the 20 over and let it sit for 20 minutes before opening the valve. If you look at a opd valve your not pulling off the very top of the cylinder so allows room for the water to settle.
If you have moisture in your propane you need a new propane supplier. I have cut open 50 year old 500 gal propane tanks with no coating that had zero corrosion. If you have 1 year old cylinder with rust you have contaminated propane.
some time back i ought a “mini” propane tank, looks just like the reg tanks used in a rv. but due to having to fit everything in a CJ-7. this little unit is great. larger than in the video but for just two days usage it is perfect. as it is refillable no problem. and no garbage filling tin cans.
"I've filled them 40 times and never had a problem". No one ever has a problem until suddenly they do. Everything in life is a form of risk assessment and when dealing with highly flammable pressurized gases, I think I'll choose to limit as much risk as practically possible.
However, you can get an accurate relative and comparative measurement as long as the circumference of each container is the same. Consequently, the comparison offered in the video, for the purpose of comparison is valid.
wow. Ive refilled those cylinders many times. Some more than 20 times, never an issue. With a single cylinder now hovering around $5 a piece this is going to be hard to swallow.
Great video . . . reminds me of something my Dad says . . . "Just because you 'can' do something, doesn't mean you 'should'. Appreciate you taking the time to do this video Sir.
Ok.. i refill my propane bottles and have for about a year…i check for any leaks or rust around the orifices.. i also check the weight when i fill them.. if i see any “ anomolies” i toss them.. but i have refilled a few of the good ones probably 10 times with no problems.. BUT thanks for your opinion.. i will keep safety in mind always.. 🔥🔥🔥🙈🙉🙊❤
I guess the Lord Jesus led me to this video, i bought the refill tool years ago , watched others supposedly refilling them, i myself couldn't make it happen, thought id try again sometime....then you showed up ....PRAISE THE LORD, thank you for caring, you may be saving lives. Now if all who call on the Lord , Repent and believe the Gospel , their soul shall be saved. God bless you sir. I pray Jesus knows you.
Finally a video that tells you the truth about these little 1LB cylinders. Just remember the trick is only fill to 80% and less is more when you put propane in the disposable cylinders.
This is similar to "dont use car tires on motorcycles" in that any problems associated with doing what is not advised can contribute to injury. Unfortunately, both are never ending discussions because many in both the car tire on bikes and the using refilled tanks people have successfully done so for a long time. Interestingly, I havent heard one story from a soul in either group come out against the practice each swears by. Now, the question really is, is that a case of dead men tell no tales, a pride thing when something went wrong or are both safe and not as dangerous as we are all lead to believe? Im wondering with the gas stuff specifically, in what scenario could they "blow"? I mean, if the tank rusts or valve leaks, how does that casue a "blowup" scenario? Either way, I never particualry cared for pressured liquid turned to gas stuff and dont care to play with it either. If Im ever in constant need of propane, Im not messing around with refilling it unless it is something like the two heavy duty brands you show. Thanks for the video.
I don't mean to sound as if i haven't watched the video till the end, because I have and I understand that the non refillable tanks are thinner, have no rust inhibitor and are made using softer metal, however, the conclusion I would draw from that is that they should be handled with much more care and that they won't last as pressure vessels as long as the refillable counterparts, but why am I not suppose to refill them? It's the same propane that they are filled with at the factory, and the act of refilling them (correctly) should not introduce any moisture that isn't expected to be present within the propane itself, so why would the act of refilling be a problem? The refilled cylinder is just as unsafe as the one filled at the factory. If I buy two tanks, and leave one of them sitting on the shelf, while using the other one and refilling it dozens of times, in what way is the one I refilled any more dangerous than the one that sat on the shelf? They both have the same amount of rust, and are equally as unsafe as one another. If it's not safe to refill due to structural deterioration, then the other one isn't safe to use for the same reasons. Perhaps the warning should be against using those cylinders past a certain time period, not against refilling. I might be completely wrong but that's the way I interpret the information.
there was an 80 year old woman killed when her 86 year old husband was refilling north of where I live a few years ago. its the only one I know of, and that one is hard to find anything online about it. I guess those type of deaths just aren't very interesting to the media.
I am a DIY guy and often work alone doing dangerous things safely * (Diesel creek reference check him out) in my 20s my brother, a chemical engineer warned me about welding and messing with pressure vessels, I did not appreciate until my 50s just how dangerous they can be.......there are plenty of videos here on RU-vid how dangerous pressure vessels can be. Please check them out if if you are thinking about making or modifying a pressure vessel.....I still force air into an empty aerosol can that has no pressure but still has paint or lub in it but I limit it to around 90 psi and I probably should not do that either....
Beer can is alot thinner than a beer keg, yet they hold the pressure required. I think the refillable bottles are more durable than single use ones though. To each their own.
My philosophy on single use is; never store a refiled single use, and discard after the event that required refilling. If I'm running a lot of propane, I'd keep using a single use, filling it from a larger refillable cylinder at home so as to never transport the single use in a motor vehicle - per the DOT restrictions on such. It probably won't rust fast enough to cause a problem in a short span of time and it will save money. But, once refilled (and even if emptied) it will rust - and the longer it sits (even empty), the more it will rust. Disclaimer: All this said, while I do have single-use Coleman brand 1 pound cylinders, I've only used a propane torch, and with its own cylinders at that, and I've never refilled it. Or, in other words, this is my *plan* on how to safely get my moneys worth out of the ever-more-expensive single use propane cylinders, and I've never actually put it to the test - even if it's based on sound logic.
