If you like this series you would like 24. I recommend checking it out and possibly reacting to it as there aren’t many reactions of the show on RU-vid for some odd reason.
Iain De Castecker showing yet again why he deserves awards for playing Fitz, absolutely brilliant "WE'RE NOT FINISHED YET!!" - One of the illest lines ever
I have been looking forward to this episode since you began reacting to the show! This twist is mind blowing and make so much sense. No one I have ever seen react to it have ever seen it coming. And it’s one of the best twists because they didn’t hide it at all. In fact Fitz literally suggested that he might have been having a psychic split at the beginning of the season. But everyone just brushes over it. Even when they make it blatantly obvious with Fitz’s actions. I love plot twists where you don’t go ‘I can’t believe this is happening!’ But instead ‘Of course this is what’s happening! This is the only thing that could have happened. How did I not see it before! How could I be so stupid!’ Like this makes so much sense but they fill it up with so much writing, they rely on peoples love for the character and behind the anomaly. And oh my gosh this is insane writing like of course this is what happens next. I hate that this is what happened next but based off of his brain damage in season 1 and living a different life his brain is clearly going to be messed up. It’s just such a bloody good show and I’m so exciting to watch the rest of the season. I’ve never seen a plot twist like this executed so well, and I don’t know it I ever will again. I just can’t believe they got away with handing us everything on a silver platter. Literally telling us what was going on, blantantly showing Fitz acting strange and didn’t hide any of it. They didn’t try and distract you from it they made it blatantly out in the open and yet YOU STILL ARE SHOCKED BY THE TWIST! That takes some bloody good writing and I will always forever be holding any plot twists up to this episode to compare. Because damn! You were very chill watching it though 😂 probably the chillest I’ve seen 😅
I agree 100%, I don't like when shows do a twist out of nowhere and they act like all cleaver having blindsided you, the best twists are those you blame yourself for not seeing all along. I remember early in the season people were discussing Fitz being left behind, and it was maybe the first time after all these years I realized how critical Fitz's time away from the team has been, even though it was Iain having a scheduling conflict that made it necessary, it ended up helping shape the character and that's another underrated talent of the show writers, they manage to use even production issues to their favor.
Jemma was not having trouble seeing a drastic metical procedure. She was having an emotional rection to seeing her best friend, Daisy, being treated that way by her Husband who was experiencing a split personality. Here are 4 reasons why Fitz's emotional reaction and crying make perfect sense. #1 He was completely devistated when he came out of the framework knowing that he had murdered people in cold blood. #2 After all the heartbreak he's had when it comes to feeling betrayed by people he cared about (Ward, Radcliff, his father), now he was dealing with being betrayed by himself. #3 Imagine being Fitz and coming face-to-face with a part of yourself that scares you more than anything. #4 Fitz was experiencing an extreme level of anxiety the entire episode. Anxiety leads to insomnia, confusion, and yep, a lot of crying!!! Fitz's behavior made perfect sense.
S5 SPOILERS The frustrating thing is that she's clearly not happy about what happened to Daisy here but with later episodes she seemed pretty content to dismiss what happened to her or at least severely underplay it.
17:50 bruh, if you would have said that at the end of this reaction, you would have nuked like half your viewership on these reactions 😂 This is like THE most loved episode of this show because of Iain's acting
Exactly!!!! Iain was F'ing amazing!!!! And, the way he was directed to play those scenes made perfect sense when considering all that he's gone through and the anxiety and fear that comes with being face to face with "the Doctor" who scares the sh!t out of Fitz. This is one of the top 10 AOS episodes. Love it!
I don't know if this is THE most loved since there are episodes that tend to be ranked higher and this one led to a lot of divisiveness. Tho, the acting is definitely a high point of praise and still holds up even if the story is gonna have problems down the line. Still I feel like while Iain deserves praise the other actors in the plot line (Chloe, Liz, Jeff) deserve some props too. Chloe especially made this whole thing so uncomfortable to watch it's probably a big part of why people were so mad about what went down cause the hurt going on was so raw.
I'm not buying it Honestly, i don't think this is the first time you've seen this episode. Lately your reactions don't seen as natural and spontaneous as usual and your predictions are too precise.
Yeah I was surprised by how chill he was watching this. This is the most chill I’ve ever seen anyone reacting to this episode 😂 And this episode is insane. All reactors I’ve ever seen loose their minds. But idk 🤷♀️
I can't disagree. SHIELD is probably the most unpredictable show I have ever seen. If someone guesses right, it's just a lucky random guess... No one can predict this show. It's too well written. I'm curious how anyone can watch this episode in particular and not be shocked and completely blown away.
@@gracebrown3074 EXACTLY!!! Same here. I'm used to people loosing their sh!t on this and many other episodes of the most amazingly written suspenseful show ever.
I love your reactions, my dude, but I’m gonna object to the notion that emotions are weakness. They aren’t. Letting one’s emotions dictate actions certainly isn’t wise and being overcome by emotions is to lose control but emotions themselves are not weakness. That sort of thinking is pushing in the direction of repression or sociopathy. Or repression via intentional pseudo-sociopathy which leads to an explosion of bottled up emotions. But again, emotions themselves are not weakness. They are like water to us. Too little and we dry up. Too much and we drown. A large burst of it and it sweeps away everything in its path. …but we nonetheless need water, as we do emotions. Without either, we cease to be human.
This episode is so good! And it also introduces an impossible moral dilemma that (at the time) tore the fandom apart a bit. For me, I see both sides. I feel so incredibly bad (and violated) for Daisy’s sake. She had little to no painkillers, she was awake the whole time, and she was cut into against her will by someone she trusted. He technically had control of his actions because Doctor!Fitz IS him, and a part of him doesn’t regret what happened. Daisy never deserved that, and Fitz shouldn’t have done that, ever. On the other hand though…it was the only way to close the rift and prevent further harm and death. And Daisy never would have consented to getting her powers back because she knows, in one way or another, she helps to destroy the world. There’s also all the stress that Fitz was going through, which aggravated his brain injury and encouraged the voices and appearance of the Doctor in the first place, and it’s not like he had any outlet to get help for his…I guess you would call it schizophrenia in this case? Idk. He IS hearing voices. I don’t want to support Fitz’s side or anything, but like Jemma said…high stakes come with impossible decisions with potentially terrible costs, even when it’s the “only” way. Also, people throw up for many reasons lol. Imagine how stressed Jemma is from not only caring for Elena and dodging the anomalies, but then figuring out that her own husband is being heavily affected by his evil doppelgänger. Stress really fucks with your stomach; I know from experience, so it could also be from that. And to answer your question…that twist absolutely shocked me. Did not see it coming at all. Having the anomalies occur at the same time was genius on their part.
What do you mean "at the time"? People are still complaining about that whole situation to this day. SPOILERS FOR THE SEASON While its true that people can throw up for a number of reasons, having it happen so soon after a convo about FitzSimmons' descendants feels wildly coincidental. And you would think if this was gonna happen because of stress it would happen at the height of it rather than the more lowdown period. Either way, it's hard not to blame people for thinking this was a sign of pregnancy, since otherwise it feels like an odd note to end the scene on.
Remember in Season 1, when Mae said Simmons was a bad liar and worried about Simmons being under cover with Hydra, and how well Simmons played Hydra?? Now here we are seeing Simmons played fake Shield!? 😲😁 Idk where we are directly on the MCU timeline, I know we're post Cap America, Civil War, but I think fake Shield turns into the International Damage Control that we've seen in other MCU titles, like during the Ms Marvel series!? 🤔🤔 Just a thought! I've been watching A.o. Shield for the first time myself, and you after every two episodes. So all of this is new to me, as much of a Marvel fan as I've been, I've ignored AoS thinking it wasn't really connected, so glad I finally decided to check it out, it's so awesome seeing these scenes behind the normal scenes of Marvel! 😁
I love that, if you pay attention, Fitz's mannerisms and speach the whole episode are close to those of Season 2 Fitz, with the stumbling over words and frustration, its a huge clue that its not just the anomoly his brain damage acting up.
*_Yup! The decapitating wire indeed was The Doctor in Fitz (Which is why Jemma was disturbed by Fitz choice of tactics, but ultimately let it pass). We also saw The Doctor’s influence when Fitz pulled a gun on Enoch the first time they met, when Fitz woke up from cryo-sleep and Enoch asked him if he “had it in him” to play the role of a ruthless space killer and when Fitz guessed that Kasius had the humans kill each other, while they were having diner, and shocked the whole party at the table. Excellent writing (as per usual)!_*
This episode was great, such a masterclass of Iain’s ability to act the hell out of an episode. As for your comment about his acting not being all there because Fitz was very emotional throughout the whole episode, I think you’re forgetting that this is a big part of his brain injury acting up. Because he’s so tired and been through so much in such a short amount of time that he is having trouble with what is real and what isn’t. His confusion and fear being thrown in the mix is what makes it so compelling. Imagine being actually face to face with the worst version of yourself. So yeah getting all these little details from his brain injury to the framework to cryosleep to the feardimention is what made Fitz do what he did this episode including him being more emotional and reactive, he kinda just broke.
And now starts the most divisive episode of the entire show and even more divisiveness going forward. I’m ngl it is really unnerving to see how happy Gavin is during watching this episode 😂 I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone react like this this episode 😂 I hate watching this episode even tho it is a masterpiece. The acting from Iain, Chloe and Elizabeth is stellar. But it just makes me so incredibly uncomfortable, especially when Daisy’s on the table just screaming, crying and begging. It’s so hard to watch. The Shield subreddit is always an interesting thing to go to because there are many great points that are brought up. Mostly on the side of Daisy but it’s still a lot more civil on there than places like TikTok or sometimes even here on RU-vid. Some people get really riled up and start insulting others.
Welcome to the AOS fan civil war. Those who cry about feelings against those who know the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or one. The Doctor saved the world ✌😎
Hehe, wonder which side you are on, it's the right side btw lol. My problem with the civil war wasn't this incident itself, because I legit understand both sides, but how the fandom started acting as if all other characters have never done anything questionable or wrong, one of the best things I love about this show is the characters are complex and flawed, how I could understand when for example Jemma was against inhumans because of what happened with Trip, or how Daisy went back to Hive because she was having withdrawal. In season 1 Coulson caused 2 random agents to die because they were guarding the Tahiti facility and he needed to get it to save Daisy, that was OK I guess, but for some reason this is the one action that caused the fandom to implode, it's fascinating really.
@@NoorAhmed-nk2jqright on fellow Agent. You nailed it, these characters are awesome because they are flawed and real. I have a favorite character each season because they all progress or regress throughout the series. Wish the fandom was more like you instead of the crybaby simps that seem to be the most vocal in the community ✌😎
@@AngeloBarovierSD I don't think so, he knows that we are still in the time loop, and the fact we are still headed towards the earth cracking apart. It's just the plot he's seen so far
I also figured out the twist same as you when daisy said who are you talking too. I was in shock for couple of minutes. You should see the promo for the next epsiode, its really a cool and fun one
Such a well written, gut-punching, awesome episode, I do however have PTSD from how it completely broke the fandom, like I actually had to step away from the fandom for at least a year, even blocking friends for a while, it was a mess! Fitz is just such a great character though, it's easy for the audience to assume he'll always be the same nice guy only to realize all the sh!t he's been through is probably causing him some mental damage, I was quite shocked when this happened but in hindsight it makes so much sense!
@@snoshio6043 I guess after I left the fandom I never fully went back so I never knew how bad it is, I did unblock some friends after s5 ended and we had civil discussions going forward, but yeah never ventured into the depths of the fandom as I used to do, so no idea if it ever recovered. Like to this day I don't know why the next episode (15) is considered a bad episode , some even rank it as their least favorite! I was not around for those discussions and never figured it out lol.
@NoorAhmed-nk2jq yh idk I liked the next one too. I think some people didn't like it cus of what happened at the end. With Daisy quaking Fitz into the wall (if I'm being honest I didn't blame her at all, fuck I may have done the same thing if I was in her position). It's mostly the stans that make the trouble
@@snoshio6043 Huh I was thinking maybe it's the whole Hydra thing, some people hated them coming back and I thought maybe they felt that episode personify it. But yeah that episode also starts the team splitting in the show so who knows. I personally love it because the writer was a staff assistant and that was his first episode so I'm just like proud of him .
@@snoshio6043 It kind of bothers me that the writers pretty much washed their hands clean of having to deal with the fallout of this whole situation in this season. Like they would have been aware of the discourse and it honestly feels cowardly that they left a lot of this hanging. This felt very much like this show's Buffy Seeing Red moment but in some ways is more frustrating.
I feel split between Mack and Yoyo in that discussion. Because Yoyo is right that if things progress as expected, she's safe; but Mack is right that their literal goal is changing the future, so if they succeed, then no one is safe. As for the final moment and the way the shadowy dude said 'Hydra', SPOILER FOR THE END OF THIS SEASON BELOW (safe if you've finished season 5): He pronounced it weird because he's an alien, so Hydra means nothing to him and there, to me at least, a hint of derision towards Hydra: to him, Hydra isn't some important organisation, they are basically a little organisation on a backwards planet that thinks too much of themselves.
Some people don't understand what is truly happening here. This is Leopold fully manifesting into this world instead of being suppressed. By the end of this episode. He and Fitz have merged together which is why fitz seems much more harsh and pragmatic. He cares just like our Fitz but he is willing to do the morally questionsble thing to protect people he cares about like Leopold.
I don't think that's what happened, Fitz says he's been hearing the doctor in his head ever since he left the framework, but the lack of sleep and stress of this situation caused Fitz's mind to start showing him things, he knew deep down he needed Daisy's power, but couldn't admit it to himself, so he imagined it's the Doctor doing it, they even show him being the one to push Daisy to disable the Cameras, he sort of compartmentalized the pragmatic side of himself and manifested the Doctor so he can do what has to be done.
@@NoorAhmed-nk2jq Throughout the episode he is fighting himself. You are correct But at the end he says "It was ME" He is now Leopold and he is Fitz. Leopold would do those things and he would not feel sorry that he did. But the Fitz would not want to do those things and he fought himself the whole time but in the end he agreed it was the only possible way and that is when they merged.
@ShieldVids yeah but it's because he developed an alternate personality, the Doctor wasn't an anomaly but some alt persona in Fitz's head but in the end he sorts of accepts the other personality is part of who he is.
@@NoorAhmed-nk2jqIMO, the whole mental split ends up being a Rorschach for the viewers. The human mind is a dangerous place for anyone to presume they know how it works. I think the triumph of the episode is that it asks (pun intended) invasive questions about the nature of personality and human neurophysiology without presuming to answer them. Even Jemma and Fitz disagree on the nature of Fitz’s mental state. Quite frankly, I love that it created passionate debate (though I’m sad people take it too far and become divisive). Overall, I think great speculative fiction forces us to examine questions for which there are no easy answers and this episode did it twice over.
Oops. No. That's not what happened. I think you forgot about when they replay the scene of Fitz swatting his hand at the Doctor... but in the replay, the Doctor is not there. Fitz had a mental break, mental split. The Doctor was never there as an anomaly or a manifestation. It was all in Fitz's head.
Kitty’s reaction to finding out Bobby didn’t make it is so sad all she wanted was for him come back safe “please jus bring yourself back “he sacrificed himself for her to get her help at any cost
Many think this season is mediocre or even bad, but I think its pretty good. How do you feel about this season overall, before the finale? Positives, negatives?
I wanna see how it wraps up first but I think it’s been pretty good so far. It’s a slower show for sure but a lot of the dialogue and plotting is needed. I think the only boring part is the Harrenhal stuff with Daemon, it was cool at first but maybe is getting too much screen time now with his weird visions and dreams. Season 1 proved this show doesn’t need a single battle for it to be entertaining but I did expect season 2 to have some bigger battles happening, hopefully the finale will have one
