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You can order the adventure version from their website which drops over the tank better. I like the size of this one, the adventure is a decent size bigger
Having used vario panniers for 6 years, I won’t be buying this ill conceived, poorly designed and obviously faulty version when I upgrade to the 1300. The awful design, bike pannier fittings and central locking connections look like they were designed by a GCSE student, who gave up the subject before the exam 😅
@@MotoscottyFair enough and I’m sure the new version will be much better. I’m going to consider aluminium panniers next time. I hire a Triumph Tiger during a recent tour of Japan and found the aluminium boxes very light, practical and also liked the appearance of them 😊
I fitted Lonerider Motobags and an Overlander topcase to my R1250GSA some years ago after damaging one of the OEM BMW hard cases on a European tour after slightly clipping a stationary truck when filtering. The Motobags are excellent with some caveats. They are very robust and can be made semi rigid with an insert and unlike other soft bags (eg Bumot Xtremada) they are waterproof and can be locked to the pannier frame. On the downside they are not quite as large as the OEM hard cases, at least on the 1250GSA, and they are a PITA to open and close. If/when I do get a 1300GSA, I will certainly transfer the Lonerider bags assuming Lonerider come out with an attachment system which I'm sure they will
They do indeed have a new frame for the 1300! I’ve just got it, fitted it and done a trip with them! Currently editing the video but you can see what they look like on the bike! They are indeed 100% waterproof as I rode through a storm in them!
Shad made the previous Varios! They should have maybe been used to build the 1300s as well…. I’ve went for the LoneRider set up with the Motobags! I’ll let you know how I get on with them!
Road touring/ hotels prefer hard boxes. Part off-road touring/ wild camping prefer Mosko Moto. Drop the bike off-roading (as you will) all energy absorbed by soft luggage no damage done. Drop the bike on tarmac? Time to wake up.
Och nothing new here pertaining to BMW most models have been released with lack of development,I’ll stick to my R1100rs now with 500,000 kms and yes had issues with it too mainly fixed by me. Good luck.
Threaten BMW UK with court action as it is a danger to other road users if they open when riding use the courts if you need to they are based at BMW UK Fleet Hampshire. We are still part of the EU sale of goods so reject the whole bike if less than 2 years old as not fit for purpose use your rights before labour steps in to protect EU company's from prosecution.
Blame Touratech, but BMW is the one that will get all the hate. I read Shad made the Vario cases and BMW should’ve just had them make the cases for the 1300 also.
To be fair, the bike has been faultless and that’s with 6000 miles on it so far and another 2000 planned in the next fortnight! Sadly the panniers seem to be my only issue!
I bought the bike so I could take the panniers on and off, and keep the lines clean and not have a cages sitting on the bike to take third party ones on! That’s why I opted for this bike! That’s not to include the issues I continue to have with this bike. Massively disappointed with the bike and Douglas Park Motorrad have been absolutely woeful considering how many bikes I have bought from them over the course of the years, not doing anything to assist
I’m on the west coast of Scotland and I use Tayside motorrad who have been first class through the whole issue. I’ve heard some horror stories which is why Dundee was my chosen dealer!
Reject the whole bike as not fit for purpose we still have the EU laws in place so they must accept or be taken to court, report failures to the DVSA as a dangerous fault if they open on the motorway the contents spilling out could cause an accident, do not put up with BMWs excuses they know about the issue but have made the sale so do not care. BMW UK is in Fleet Hampshire so pay a personal visit.
Get Bumot luggage instead...works brilliantly, simple and well made and you can use them on different bikes,,,just buy a new rack...never buy own brand boxes.
A friend has them on this adventure! I’ve got the Lone Rider Motobags to try, soft luggage but they seem really well built and sturdy! I’ll let you know how I get on!
OMG, wrapping a strap around the pannier is what we had to do with BMW’s in the late 1970’s to keep the bags from falling off do to the latch at the back filling up with road grit and not securing the pannier. Sounds like a case of “back to the future” 🤨.
Thing is, I don’t want luggage carriers ruining the looks of my bike. Also I’m riding to Bratislava very soon and have no option but to use my vario cases. What I want is a guarantee that They will replace my cases next year even though I have continued to use the old ones. I will find some proper suitable straps in the meantime and that will be at my expense.
My initial problem started when I went to remove the pannier and the locking mechanism snapped inside the case, just watch for that as it’s happened a few times and it locks the key in place and only brute force can remove it sadly!
Same here, @Scratcher2860 - the vario luggage was very attractive to me because no scaffolding was needed. Fortunately I don't need them that often, so I'll wait until the new bags come out before making a decision on what I'm going to do.
The OLD bags Have a recall for falling off as well so there not an option I loss one and they would not accept that it fall off on its own, but then loads more had the issue and still no refund, or new options moved to softbags instead.
@Motoscotty love them because when empty, they don't protude, and you can expand them a lot to load them up. Also, when moving the bike in the garage, or when getting my leg up to hop on the bike, I don't kick a hard surface! And they look good too! Since the racks are simetric, the bike looks balanced from the rear.
its a shame this pannier debacle is sort of taking the shine of the 1300 ..i took my hard luggage of my 1250 (Bumot ) and transferred it to my 1300 they are great quality..but if i was buying new id perhaps go for the lone rider kit as well .
Thanks Tim, I appreciate that! It’s amazing how long even editing takes! The top box is one I’ll need to get back to you on once I see what’s out there! I’m quite excited with the Lone Rider range! The adventure weekend I was in last week nearly everyone was on soft luggage and we discussed the pros and cons of each! Once fitted, I’ll get another video done with them on 😀
Stupid question - isn’t the Velorex to light for the Sportster? Used to own a Jawa 350 with a Velorex and even there the sidecar could have been heavier and built a bit stronger (the axle is quite a week point of it…)
Ordered my GS 1300R in Dec 23. I ordered Vario at the same time. Chopped in my old GS 1250 with full Vario luggage (big regret, I would not have done this had I have known). New bike arrived April 24, no Panniers or top box. Dealer has been joke worthy (BMW Warwick). BMW customer service has been contacted over 8 weeks ago, no response to email??? To put this into context a global brand cannot put forward a box to put luggage into, that stays shut, until June 2025....they are turning a once great brand into a joke and a mockery.
I think the are a bit Paul, it’s a bit sad. I don’t think they mean to but it does come across a bit like that. I must admit, my dealer has been fantastic in dealing with this, shame it’s not the same across the dealer network.
We had a fantastic trip, video still be uploaded! Roads were fantastic, food was good and Guinness even better! The 1300 is a fantastic bike! Just the Panniers!
I ordered my 1300 GS in December 23 with full luggage. The bike did not arrive until June but with no luggage. I did not learn about this until the day before collection. Initially i was offered (and took) a complementary tank bank and soft bag as a temporary measure. Today 25 July the bike had its first service and i was offered a choice; either i could have my money back so that i could buy an aftermarket luggage set or i could take the potentially defective cases with safety straps. No one knows when the replacement corrected luggage is expected and i was told this might not be until early 2025 ( you now mention Mid 2025!) As the cases look good and are fitted with the central locking i took the latter option. In hind sight, and after watching your youtube clip this might have been a mistake! I was supplied with the top box, panniers and two ratchet straps to hold the lids on! I mean this is a 22k BMW motorcycle for F sake ! it now looks just great with two grubby white straps on it! They are not even black with BMW printed on them! This does not inspire great confidence in the bike . If BMW can't stop two plastic lids from falling off, what else might drop off at 70 mph! Communication from BMW has not been great. Yours is the about the only post i have seen with a similar issue. I have no idea when this might be resolved and what they are going to do about it. BMW Motorrad need to get this sorted ASAP
I completely agree, I don't know how this has been so badly affected but it has. The fact the strap isn't even branded and rather a delivery strap is a bit of a joke! Thankfully my dealer has responded very well and a solution has been found which I will update shortly!
That is what happens when a company like BMW have their parts made in China, Return the bike not fit for purpose and threaten court action if they do not fix it, make sure the press gets to hear about your issues ie all the bike mags and online when sales plummet they will fix the issue make sure you contact Missenden Flyer on You Tube about your issues he has a massive following
Hes already commented on an earlier video I done, he does have a huge following (i'm one! :) ). The bike is perfect, just the luggage but thankfully we have an update I will share with you shortly!
@@carleddison7479 I guess they realized a lot of potential buyers did not like the fact they had to take on the expensive new problem panniers. I had the BMW dealership make me an offer to trade in my 2021 1250 GS with 50k km for a new 1300 GS 4 weeks ago, but said I would only consider buying if I could fit my current Vario cases to the 1300. They told me 'not possible'. Last Monday I received an e mail saying BMW HQ just sent out an e mail stating there will be a new kit released fitting the previous Vario cases to the 1300. I'm now awaiting the cost price of that kit.
It really is quite spectacular that a heavy hitter in the motorcycle world who can charge a huge premium for their bikes can expect customers to be beta testers for new models. Really not good enough nor fir for purpose.
@Motoscotty Being a 5'10 short arse the wrong side of 60 I'm planning on a growth spurt to 6'3 so I can go for the 1300 GSA. I must be one of only 3 people who absolutely love the looks.
@@paulyflyer8154 you know, at first I hated the looks, now I think it looks amazing! I done the same with the R1300GS until I seen it in the flesh and fell in love! Now I think it's the best looking bike on the market!
@Motoscotty Yes but it's amazing how many people dismiss the looks of both bikes before they've seem them in the wild. When you first got on it did you just know? Like an old pair of slippers?
Take them back tell them to stick where sun dont shine get a refund and buy bumot and a givi 52 top box. Bags of space secure and all for possibly under a grand £. I have a 1250 tb gs and it will be the best and last BMW I will buy after 20 years of GS's . All this new stuff is nowhere near the quality and over priced and not particularly good looking. Why is the current r1250gsa no.1 seller ??. Hope you get it sorted.
Not fit for purpose, and the idea of straps is crazy, practical but madness, what you paid for does not work. I suspect BMW are arguing it out with Touratech as I heard they were the manufacturer of the luggage.
I’m having a similar battle with BMW Customer Service which has been woeful. The other thing to remember here is, there was a cost to have the bike prepped for the keyless various which now are not fit for purpose!
Built by accountants like everything nowadays! To be fair, the bike has been faultless (apart from the notorious starter motor issue at the beginning).
@@Motoscotty my 1250 has now got 10k on and its 2 yrs old in sept never let me down but.......... has suffered from rear strut fault on dash once last year in bavaria turn off and on and went away had it checked back home many issues with sos had a new left cylinder head due to valve guides worn engine always makes differnt strange noises mostly on idle but i test rode a 1300 and i must say it too made funny noises
You do wonder how they got it so wrong. BMW have made perfectly sound panniers, top boxes for years on bikes in the K & RT models more recently with central locking. How can the solution be to tie it together that doesn’t seem right.
It isn't right, sadly it seems like a mechanism fails on the pannier which has caused these to open when riding. Everything else on the bike is perfect apart from the luggage!
Big white delivery straps with a lovely metal buckle too. Not even branded GS ones that cost about £4 to make, the white delivery ones the bike is stripped with are to be re-used for this! Grim
Obvious solution..go get a full refund for the luggage which obviously isn’t fit for purpose, and get some third party panniers. Just not worth the faff for the Varios’s I’m afraid.
Ah but he also paid to have the function installed on the bike! So whilst it might seem straight forward there is a financial lost installing the brackets and power at factory build
@@bsidethecside2283 absolutely, buy the model at the end of the model run, always better than the new model. Bmw are a headache waiting to happen, Big Money Wasted.
