i guess i'm an under-doer. but it's a very frustrating concept for me, because i HAVE been laying with different voices for a long time, but a feminine voice is seemingly the one thing i can't reach. it's like trying to balance a cube on its corner, i'm always slipping into a very heavy voice, or a very low-pitched voice, or something in between. i also seem to snap back to a deeper, lower-pitched voice constantly out of some deep-seated embarrassment.
Could you give an example of a male actor with very dull pronunciation? I cant really understand the theory here, it just sounds like pitch change to me, but im better at overall imitation.
Wow I made it 12 minutes in and my voice is tired...I'll try again in about an hour or so. That's how I learned the clarinet. Practice practice but at the same time don't hit your head against the wall forcing it. You just get injured.
well, the biggest issue i have is I can't GO that high. my voice just gives out and sounds weird, like it's capped at a certain lightness. how do i fix that to expand to a higher range? any exercises i should practice until my muscles work for a higher lighter, less weighted sound? i have a BASS that is hard to fight.
this is so so beautiful, and so needed!!! thank you for sharing your thoughts and your motivation. the way we act towards ourselves can far outpace how others may treat us. We need to treat ourselves kindly first, and make a safe space for ourselves to grow. <3
Your video helps me a lot, and I am a technical guy, so I like the way you explain things. I've watched several videos now and want to progress. I feel you're doing it right, and your voice... WOW! I wish I could have such a high (of course, I notice the pitch!) voice, and it sounds so natural! My egg as a transgender just cracked on the 3rd of this month, and I have my appointment with my psychiatrist on the 19th of this month. :)
I just wanna fuck with my friends (Small side detail but I'm also going through the hardest self gender questioning of my life but thats not important shhh)
Thick/ thin, low/ high, and large/ small all make physical sense when you think about things in the context of the human vocal tract. A greater vocal fold mass (physically thicker) produces a lower pitch, while a lower mass (physically thinner) produces a higher pitch. A low position of the larynx will produce a low pitch, while a high larynx will produce a high pitch. A larger vocal tract, or resonance chamber generally, will produce a low pitch, while a small one will produce a high pitch.
Thank you for the video on the Myth of Opposition in transvocal training. Voice is like a wave functions, with position wave function Ψ() possible degrees of voice feminisation at any point in a period of time, and momentum wave function Φ() possible directions current vocal gender can go at any moment in a period of time. Observing it at only point in time, we crush it to a single out-of-context point. And we can integrate and average the points over a period of time like ∫: from t-30s: to t-0s; or ∫: voice clip duration, but one average cannot give us the integration of the whole history of one's journey of voice, nor analytic understanding of the voice at each minute moment. To wrestle with angels...I have grown up having interest in the voice of 少女的な声優 (in transvocal spaces, years ago it had a big spurt with Lsomethingsomething's first however dated voice guide: maybe now, let's call it shoujo voice, like mahou-shoujo: Magic Girl). However, I had many struggle with the self-sabotaging extraneous effort of strain and extraneous effort of comparison-opposition (the opposition mentioned in this video). But: like the origin story of Galactus (specifically Earth-616): after some escitalopram, my brain unclogged and I flew into the sun: and henceforth I obtained the vocal ability comparable to 声優 in Japan (most seiyuu are voiceacter+singer, while in north america, i get a vibe one can ex. be a voice acter without also being a singer). Vocal ability on the scale comparable to vocal artist like ななひら, a whole new vocal realm to explore...o: Also from that recent breakthrough (a few weeks ago from now for context), I learnt how to communicate with human also at that breakthrough moment; @w@; communication is shapeshifting: even western local friend groups have strict regulation on speech pattern, intonation, and what concepts you can even bring up: to even be comprehended. People struggled to understand me: because not many people read outside their local interests 😅.
Sir Alec Guinness has a kindly voice, a real Gentleman, never gruff or aggressive in bearing. never big in muscle, not a boxer or a weight lifter, but a wonderful athlete in an amateur or charity race*
I am rebelling from the battle of the sexes, let’s create a much sweeter world, there are tall females and little guys in our world, we can and do care for people for folk who are kind, rougher types do not appeal to us ❤ From Petra
That's clearly a new person in the video. Why was there no introduction on who this person is? I really liked the video. I offen wonder why I go so high in pitch. Wish I knew how to get a lower feminine voice.
thank you, you learned me the pedestal and exlucion of minority, and the Overton applied to gendering of voices, very interesting : broaden the criteria instead of excluding the exception!
Oh wow this video is so heartwarming and thought-provoking!!! These are ideas I've learned about before. Avoiding a reductive oppositional understanding of how gender or secondary sex characteristics interact with how we perceive our voice is so important though. And I think that while most trans people don't have a consciously simplistic oppositional view of this regarding gender or voice, speaking for myself, I suspect that this tendency still subtly influences me. Vivienne's analysis of this topic is intellectually thorough, emotionally sensitive, compelling and sincere. I think for a lot of trans people, myself included, it would do much good to continuously reflect on the ideas she brings forward! 💜
This is such a good video! I often feel that, given my build and stature, i need to look and sound as extreme-feminine as possible in order to be seen as female. And i do see it as a defense mechanism, because being perceived as anything in between is so dangerous right now. But you're right that there's such a wide range of femalr voices, and even on the lower end, there's a lot more that will register as feminine with the lowest common denominator.
really really encouraging video. i chronically get discoraged and stop my training but theres been a few times you all have pulled me back in. thank you for not giving up on us even when we do.
I think using some kind of AI voice changer like Eleven Labs would help a lot for people, like me, who struggle listening to their own voice back. The ability to change your own voice into other accents or languages while still sounding like yourself, removes a large portion about what you intuitively think of as "you" when you hear yourself back and treat with such enormous negative bias. I would expect it should allow you to much more fairly appraise your own voice. Haven't tried this yet because I'm just that lazy.
