Pretty much. Some parts are harder or easier (Raptors/Krugs changes a bit for the spacing, Krugs is easier but Raptors is harder iirc), but the bottom quadrant is pretty much the same. In fact, you can even do a real double camp with Blue and Gromp, finishing at 2:54 or even 2:53, only on Red Side, but I wouldn't recommend going for it.
I can do this consistently on red side, but blue side is a lot harder. I think sometimes I don't auto the big gromp, or the gromp starts to reset just before it ends. I started spamming w after right clicking the big gromp and that seemed to help a little. The scaling hp rune vs 65 hp one didn't seem to make a big difference for the blue side. Seems like positioning is a lot more important on blue side, to ensure you get vision of the small gromp sooner.
I have adaptive force but nothing seems to be working. the second the Krugs come out I'm not killing them fast enough. I even decided to ignore the little krug just to get an extra hit in and it doesn't work. I'm dying out here trying to figure this out. I watched multiple videos blue and green egg. Nothing works! Please! I genuinely don't understand what I'm doing wrong.
i couldnt do it too but i figured a consistent way to do it for me at least, you first stand exactly on the spot where you w because were not speedrunning it ig so i dont care wasting a second on it and after i do the e smite w combo i immediately b-line to the small krug, auto it and then auto the big one and w, you know youre doing it good if you w just when the cooldowns up and the big krug has 299 hp. hope this helped a month in delay lol
@@hippiedonut1It is technically possible on blue side but not consistently at all, seemingly luck based. That's why there are two separate videos for Blue Side vs Red Side.
For everyone looking at this.[14.8 right now] He has the +65HP not the scaling HP runes. That extra 2 damage from the pet is JUUUST enough to help with Raptors only needing 5 AAs, and Krugs not living on ~10hp.
Yes, good point. I believe FHP is better since Fiddle is weakest in the early game and it helps marginally in the clear. I might record a detailed guide now that my semester is over with.
After practicing a lot I am able to get this consistently (after I warm up). One important tip that I don't see mentioned is that you can cancel your w animation like .25 seconds early just by walking out of it or autoing. This makes all the difference for the krug camp.
Oh it seems like, the key is clicking the krug asap, then running away until you can w, at 00:26. I was messing up all the time on blue side, I was even sad to get that side
4 hours straight in practice tool and: -The golem part is impossible with the adaptive force rune. The extra micro-second of cdr on the W is needed to be able to cast it before they run away. *I also have been using an effigy to give vision, in order to aa them on their way over. But it doesn't seem needed- I think I just wasn't getting close enough to the wall for the W+smite after the E. -Kiting blue towards river on the first aa after W is important, at least for me; I kept moving just outside the aggro range and resetting it. Thanks for this video!
You can do it with adaptive force. If they run away it's because their health wasn't low enough, not be because the W wasn't fast enough. Make sure you immediately move over to auto attack the medium Krug and big Krug ASAP and immediately drain after the big Krug auto.
Two things I think might help - smite the big krug as fast as possible, and cancel your auto on the big krug with drain as fast as you can. Also, I think the little step back he does after hitting the small krug might be key Even with that, I'm having trouble getting it consistently on 14.6. If all else fails, go absolute focus
Happened to me for a bit. Something I changed was to only auto the Red Buff once, so when you start attacking krugs your pet will get 3 hits instead of 2 on krugs.
Thanks for the guide, just what I was looking for. How do you make sure your pet attacks the golems in this clear? In my games it's very inconsistent, sometimes the pet doesn't attack the big Golem and it gets to 8 hp before resetting, causing a huge time loss because even smite has been used.
You can save the second smite for the Scuttle this way, and if you get invaded you can choose to instantly smite the camp. For example, if you smite Blue to start, and you get invaded on your Red, then you have smite up to secure the Red
I just can't seem to get vision on the krugs whenever I use E on them over the wall, I hit them, and they run over to me, but no matter how close I creep up to the wall I never get vision and thus can't smite the big Krug. I am only starting out with Fiddlesticks, what am I doing wrong?
I find that on red side i can easily double clear gromp and blue without the camps resetting, but on blue side i cannot find a spot where they dont reset. Is this a me problem? or the reason your clear is 3 seconds slower on blue side. Seems broken.
Hi! The other clear with raptors+red at the same time should be droped? could you explain why did u not do it at the same time those camps? Gj and thx for your work bud!
